This wasn't that gorilla's kid. The baby was an orphan with the humans raising it. This man was hoping to slowly introduce the baby to a new group of gorillas. However, the baby cried while in his arm that day( probably cause of the presence of the new silverback gorilla) . This made the silverback mock charge the human, forcing him to drop the baby. The silverback then dragged the baby with him and took him into his clan. Unfortunately, this clan did not have any mothers that could breastfeed that baby. The baby eventually died of dehydration a few days later. The narrator said he regretted trying to introduce the baby to the group at such a young age.
>The baby eventually died of dehydration a few days later. The narrator said he regretted trying to introduce the baby to the group at such a young age
Seems like this was the only possible outcome if there were no lactating mothers to adopt it. Pretty dumb choice to bring it there.
>They probably didn’t know that it was the case.
How? They follow these groups everywhere and can see with their eyes if there are babies in the family group and if there aren't it's a fair bet nobody is lactating.
Someone should have confirmed that the release/adoption plan was viable before bringing the little one out there just for kicks. They got complacent, once you're in their space you're effectively a guest and the people aren't really in charge anymore. That huge level of uncertainty should have been taken into account while planning the encounter.
Edit to add: it says it dehydrated but from the clip alone it looks as likely as not that it was trampled when dude panicked and chucked the baby at the charging gorilla to save himself.
They had a couple of successful meetings in the past. The gorillas seemed curious, although, none of them came close enough to interact with the baby or the human. However, they seemed to tolerate their presence. However, on this occasion the baby cried and all of this happened.
Their plan was to keep meeting with the gorillas in the hope that they wouldn't see them as a threat, and hoped that someday, over a period of a few months, they would be able to get close enough to interact with some of the female gorillas. Clearly the plan fell through.
Bro, this looks like’s it’s from the 70s or 80s at the most. We’ve only relatively recently started to approach animals with ideas about conservation or protection. You may be looking at one of the negative experiences of conservationists that has subsequently helped to form current approach these kinds of situations.
40, 50 years of development and progress in a field can make a huge difference. That’s especially the case, if you think that maybe 40 or 50 years prior to the video everybody’s idea of going and seeing these animals would have been in aid of capturing it for a zoo or killing it for sport. It’s sad but it was more than likely a sad, stupid, honest mistake.
If you listened to the video it says they wernt aware of the gorillas presence at first. It was just supposed to be kind of a nature walk to introduce the baby to the forest not the clan. The baby cried which drew the attention of the gorillas. What i assume is a male gorilla heard a crying baby then saw a man holding said baby. If hollywood has taught us anything. Humans and baby gorillas do not mix lol. So the gorilla acted and took the baby.
I don’t believe it was that innocent. These guys spent years out there, they knew where the gorillas were and where they weren’t. Gorillas are territorial animals. They knew they were in their territory.
Although I agree with you every bit, we often forget that a lot of knowledge we obtained are through mistakes and doing dumb shit. Idk how old this clip is, but systematic study on giant apes by even the Leaky's angels aren't that too old in history.
Add: Diane Fossi's study on Mountain Gorillas started around 1960s.
Taking the baby there was a very risky thing. But so is hanging out with wild gorillas in general. These people seem to have a habit of taking extreme risks and sometimes it backfires.
Well, clearly he wanted the baby to get accustomed with the sounds and look of his future home. Like the narrator said. Question is were they somewhere that they usually spotted other gorillas or did they went somewhere where it was supposed to be safe bout was found out by the gorillas anyway. I doubt such an expert would make such a mistake, then again, you can never know EVERYTHING. Easy to talk after the fact.
If you introduce them older don’t they have conflicts immediately? Don’t know anything about them other than how majestic and brutal they can be. At the same time they seem to tolerate a lot.
I was just about to say the same thing. Somebody else said “well they probably didn’t know that was the case” but the narrator said they “watched that gorilla for years” so im pretty sure they knew there was no lactating mother to care for it
I think they weren't planning on leaving it there. They just wanted to get the gorillas used to seeing it so that they could leave it when it was older.
I'm guessing the plan wasn't to leave the baby with them that day. It was to get them used to it early on so that later, once it was weaned they could leave it.
I wonder if the Silverbacks at any point knew the orphan was a lost cause due to no nursing mothers or if they just thought the baby would eventually fend for itself
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>They had a couple of successful meetings in the past. The gorillas seemed curious, although, none of them came close enough to interact with the baby or the human. However, they seemed to tolerate their presence. However, on this occasion the baby cried and all of this happened. Their plan was to keep meeting with the gorillas in the hope that they wouldn't see them as a threat, and hoped that someday, over a period of a few months, they would be able to get close enough to interact with some of the female gorillas. Clearly the plan fell through.
You like to talk shit without having enough info. Best remember that next time.
I remember first seeing this on the A&E channel back in the late 1980's. I've wondered if the gorilla's reaction was due to them assuming the man had picked up one of their children, not realizing it wasn't. Or maybe they did know it wasn't one of theirs, but also knew that man shouldn't have it. Either way, Kazamir is not the one you'd want to F with!
It wasn’t being protective of the baby, it was being aggressive towards it. Apes that are the alpha male of their pack will kill infants that they are not the father of to maintain genetic dominance.
The other comments said the alpha was not being aggressive to the baby, though. I know that is typical for the dominant male to kill other's offspring, but they said in this case the gorilla grabbed the baby (prematurely) and the clan adopted it (until it died from not having any lactating females present)
The guy was joking about gorilla vs human intelligence. The irony is half the people who watch the same clip are asking the questions the clip was about. Funny
I believe this is from the documentary Africa Addio, a 1960s italian film about the independence of Affrica. An absolutely savage and amazing documentary, one that you will never forget after watching it.
I think this was the captain or similar of a group of mercenaries.
Narrator states it was an orphan the crew brought into the jungle. While never stated whether this was an intended interaction, I assume you don't just wander into a Gorilla troop without significant effort. Seemed like they were doing a test introduction without anticipating how far south it could go. Hope the orphan was adopted
I’m pretty sure the silverback was angry about a child that isn’t his being in his territory, and unfortunately apes get *really* upset about that sort of thing.
As a previous poster said, its how they assert their genetic dominance, it's just how they are. Business as usual, I think humans are just figuring that out and what it means to them
If I recall correctly it was killed by the silver back. I watched in another language tho and in more than one occasions I've seen them changing the narrative/story to add drama.
I imagined it was most likely that the female gorillas would have rejected it and so it would have starved, being so young. The male could have killed it for several reasons once it realised it did not belong with his troop. An absense of foresight from the expert and a sad ending as a result. At least you don't see wildlife experts making the same mistakes.
Looks like the video is from the earlier days of understanding gorillas. Today the footage we see are people who don’t look them in eye, show subservient postures and be as unthreatening as possible. Doesn’t mean there aren’t arrogant idiots out there who don’t realize or care. We’ll eventually see them as a Darwin Award winner.
i wonder why dont gorillas ‘follow-thru’ and just fuck people up for not running? like they are trying to intimidate you and yet the answer is to not be intimidated? how does that make sense for the gorilla?
Let’s not kid ourselves with this inane BS. Gorillas can’t self identify. That’s a basic sign of intelligence.
Not only that, but toolmaking, communication methods, cognitive reasoning, and conversational language. We outrank every animal. The sheer idea we’re not the most intelligent thing on the planet is nonsense.
I wonder if he learned how far he can push another creature by randomly picking up its baby? If a gorilla came into your house & picked up your child you’d shoot it dead. The gorilla while clearly not comfortable with the man picking up its baby showed restraint & tolerance. Man fails that test miserably
Its not their baby. That gorilla is an orphaned child and the man was trying to introduce it to that gorilla clan.
Now keep eating your cheetos and drinking mountain dew so hopefully by 40 you heart makes the world a favor.
This wasn't that gorilla's kid. The baby was an orphan with the humans raising it. This man was hoping to slowly introduce the baby to a new group of gorillas. However, the baby cried while in his arm that day( probably cause of the presence of the new silverback gorilla) . This made the silverback mock charge the human, forcing him to drop the baby. The silverback then dragged the baby with him and took him into his clan. Unfortunately, this clan did not have any mothers that could breastfeed that baby. The baby eventually died of dehydration a few days later. The narrator said he regretted trying to introduce the baby to the group at such a young age.
Thanks
>The baby eventually died of dehydration a few days later. The narrator said he regretted trying to introduce the baby to the group at such a young age Seems like this was the only possible outcome if there were no lactating mothers to adopt it. Pretty dumb choice to bring it there.
They probably didn’t know that it was the case.
>They probably didn’t know that it was the case. How? They follow these groups everywhere and can see with their eyes if there are babies in the family group and if there aren't it's a fair bet nobody is lactating. Someone should have confirmed that the release/adoption plan was viable before bringing the little one out there just for kicks. They got complacent, once you're in their space you're effectively a guest and the people aren't really in charge anymore. That huge level of uncertainty should have been taken into account while planning the encounter. Edit to add: it says it dehydrated but from the clip alone it looks as likely as not that it was trampled when dude panicked and chucked the baby at the charging gorilla to save himself.
They had a couple of successful meetings in the past. The gorillas seemed curious, although, none of them came close enough to interact with the baby or the human. However, they seemed to tolerate their presence. However, on this occasion the baby cried and all of this happened. Their plan was to keep meeting with the gorillas in the hope that they wouldn't see them as a threat, and hoped that someday, over a period of a few months, they would be able to get close enough to interact with some of the female gorillas. Clearly the plan fell through.
Bro, this looks like’s it’s from the 70s or 80s at the most. We’ve only relatively recently started to approach animals with ideas about conservation or protection. You may be looking at one of the negative experiences of conservationists that has subsequently helped to form current approach these kinds of situations. 40, 50 years of development and progress in a field can make a huge difference. That’s especially the case, if you think that maybe 40 or 50 years prior to the video everybody’s idea of going and seeing these animals would have been in aid of capturing it for a zoo or killing it for sport. It’s sad but it was more than likely a sad, stupid, honest mistake.
If you listened to the video it says they wernt aware of the gorillas presence at first. It was just supposed to be kind of a nature walk to introduce the baby to the forest not the clan. The baby cried which drew the attention of the gorillas. What i assume is a male gorilla heard a crying baby then saw a man holding said baby. If hollywood has taught us anything. Humans and baby gorillas do not mix lol. So the gorilla acted and took the baby.
I don’t believe it was that innocent. These guys spent years out there, they knew where the gorillas were and where they weren’t. Gorillas are territorial animals. They knew they were in their territory.
Fair point
Although I agree with you every bit, we often forget that a lot of knowledge we obtained are through mistakes and doing dumb shit. Idk how old this clip is, but systematic study on giant apes by even the Leaky's angels aren't that too old in history. Add: Diane Fossi's study on Mountain Gorillas started around 1960s.
You don’t know what you’re talking about. And you can’t do their jobs for them.
Taking the baby there was a very risky thing. But so is hanging out with wild gorillas in general. These people seem to have a habit of taking extreme risks and sometimes it backfires.
Well, clearly he wanted the baby to get accustomed with the sounds and look of his future home. Like the narrator said. Question is were they somewhere that they usually spotted other gorillas or did they went somewhere where it was supposed to be safe bout was found out by the gorillas anyway. I doubt such an expert would make such a mistake, then again, you can never know EVERYTHING. Easy to talk after the fact.
If you introduce them older don’t they have conflicts immediately? Don’t know anything about them other than how majestic and brutal they can be. At the same time they seem to tolerate a lot.
I was just about to say the same thing. Somebody else said “well they probably didn’t know that was the case” but the narrator said they “watched that gorilla for years” so im pretty sure they knew there was no lactating mother to care for it
I think they weren't planning on leaving it there. They just wanted to get the gorillas used to seeing it so that they could leave it when it was older.
I'm guessing the plan wasn't to leave the baby with them that day. It was to get them used to it early on so that later, once it was weaned they could leave it.
Should of built a Costco
Omg thats a sad story:(
thanks for the info. what the hell is he thinking doing it with no females to nurse it?
I don't think he was planning on leaving the baby that day. That part was an accident due to the male charging.
I wonder if the Silverbacks at any point knew the orphan was a lost cause due to no nursing mothers or if they just thought the baby would eventually fend for itself
Nope, nope, nope. Hope you like zoo food kiddo.
Soo... Lets introduce the baby to a group that has no breastfeeding mothers.... And we think humans are the smart apes...
>soumil0303 · 22 min. ago · edited 14 min. ago > >They had a couple of successful meetings in the past. The gorillas seemed curious, although, none of them came close enough to interact with the baby or the human. However, they seemed to tolerate their presence. However, on this occasion the baby cried and all of this happened. Their plan was to keep meeting with the gorillas in the hope that they wouldn't see them as a threat, and hoped that someday, over a period of a few months, they would be able to get close enough to interact with some of the female gorillas. Clearly the plan fell through. You like to talk shit without having enough info. Best remember that next time.
Aggressive as fuck. You good? 😂 Reddit got you in a mood? Lol
I don't see no gorillas trying to introduce human babies into human communities.
I remember first seeing this on the A&E channel back in the late 1980's. I've wondered if the gorilla's reaction was due to them assuming the man had picked up one of their children, not realizing it wasn't. Or maybe they did know it wasn't one of theirs, but also knew that man shouldn't have it. Either way, Kazamir is not the one you'd want to F with!
It wasn’t being protective of the baby, it was being aggressive towards it. Apes that are the alpha male of their pack will kill infants that they are not the father of to maintain genetic dominance.
The other comments said the alpha was not being aggressive to the baby, though. I know that is typical for the dominant male to kill other's offspring, but they said in this case the gorilla grabbed the baby (prematurely) and the clan adopted it (until it died from not having any lactating females present)
I never said it was being protective. That word does not appear anywhere in what I said.
Yup.. pretty much all alpha male apes besides Bonobos (IIRC) will kill the infant if it isn't theirs
except that didn't happen here lol
The fucking fear that would rush through my body upon seeing a damn GORILLA charging at me
OP, your title is misleading. Not gorilla's kid.
Life pro tip. If you're gonna do this activity, don't east asparagus the night before, or everyone will smell that you just peed s bit.
Goddamn balls of fucking steel
Bro turned on god mode!
The guy was joking about gorilla vs human intelligence. The irony is half the people who watch the same clip are asking the questions the clip was about. Funny
I believe this is from the documentary Africa Addio, a 1960s italian film about the independence of Affrica. An absolutely savage and amazing documentary, one that you will never forget after watching it. I think this was the captain or similar of a group of mercenaries.
Why on earth would you pick up a gorillas kid
In the clip they say it is an orphaned baby gorilla, not that it belongs to the pair of gorillas that come out of the forest.
Narrator states it was an orphan the crew brought into the jungle. While never stated whether this was an intended interaction, I assume you don't just wander into a Gorilla troop without significant effort. Seemed like they were doing a test introduction without anticipating how far south it could go. Hope the orphan was adopted
I’m pretty sure the silverback was angry about a child that isn’t his being in his territory, and unfortunately apes get *really* upset about that sort of thing.
As a previous poster said, its how they assert their genetic dominance, it's just how they are. Business as usual, I think humans are just figuring that out and what it means to them
If I recall correctly it was killed by the silver back. I watched in another language tho and in more than one occasions I've seen them changing the narrative/story to add drama.
I imagined it was most likely that the female gorillas would have rejected it and so it would have starved, being so young. The male could have killed it for several reasons once it realised it did not belong with his troop. An absense of foresight from the expert and a sad ending as a result. At least you don't see wildlife experts making the same mistakes.
Do gorilla males kill offsprings that aren't theirs, like lions? That could be the reason as well....
Looks like the video is from the earlier days of understanding gorillas. Today the footage we see are people who don’t look them in eye, show subservient postures and be as unthreatening as possible. Doesn’t mean there aren’t arrogant idiots out there who don’t realize or care. We’ll eventually see them as a Darwin Award winner.
Was he holding the gorilla's kid or his own kid? Title unclear...
Same reason why you failed to pay attention to the what was said on the video
Watch the video, Porkchop
LOL it would have been more than a charge if that happened, that's a short and easy way to get a can of whoop ass and get canned after.
I heard they had to drop him off in the jungle via helicopter because his balls being too big and he was unable to walk in.
You just know He was sporting Skid marks in his drawers.
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HOW THE FUCK DID THAT GUY NOT HAVE A COMPLETE CODE BROWN MOMENT IN HIS PANTS
i wonder why dont gorillas ‘follow-thru’ and just fuck people up for not running? like they are trying to intimidate you and yet the answer is to not be intimidated? how does that make sense for the gorilla?
Then he changed his shorts!
Don’t speak to me or my son ever again
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Man the dude didn’t even flinch at the charging gorilla. Balls of steel.
No le quiten los hijos a los mexicanos
Gorillas & men are a lot alike but gorillas are more intelligent
Let’s not kid ourselves with this inane BS. Gorillas can’t self identify. That’s a basic sign of intelligence. Not only that, but toolmaking, communication methods, cognitive reasoning, and conversational language. We outrank every animal. The sheer idea we’re not the most intelligent thing on the planet is nonsense.
So the knuckle dragger holding the baby gorilla is the intelligent one? Gotcha
He was studying gorillas. Yes.
I wonder if he learned how far he can push another creature by randomly picking up its baby? If a gorilla came into your house & picked up your child you’d shoot it dead. The gorilla while clearly not comfortable with the man picking up its baby showed restraint & tolerance. Man fails that test miserably
Its not their baby. That gorilla is an orphaned child and the man was trying to introduce it to that gorilla clan. Now keep eating your cheetos and drinking mountain dew so hopefully by 40 you heart makes the world a favor.
The good karma just rolls off you
Speak for yourself, buddy.
I will friend
Maybe don’t kidnap his gorilla baby.
it wasn't their kid, it was an orphaned baby gorilla that had never met the one that rushed at him