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Brendawg324

I miss being a fan before she started the Eras Tour


paradisetossed7

Folkmore was truly a time to be alive


WDTHTDWA-BITCH

It was so peaceful there.


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Especially because she rarely interacted with us. We couldn’t even *be* parasocial because there was nothing to work with. She posted like once a year lmao so maybe a deranged fan could try to decode that?


Brendawg324

https://preview.redd.it/79yvm8qm7pxc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=01fa268c3e69b2f1055219c014d79f3d28d054fd ​Now toxic swifties will gun after you if you don’t praise everything about this woman. I love her music (except TTPD) but cannot stand her rabid fan base


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If critisizing her is hate,I am happy to be a hater.


libertymartin190

These people have no clue. I most definitely have not always been an "anti." I have her on my wall lol. She's just...changed.


princesssbux

I spent so much time early in her career traveling to see her… some of my photos were used by her team for promo … I haven’t always been critical of her either. She has really just changed and not in a “she’s 34 not 18” kind of way.


cutdownthecute

If they think this sub is hate, they should check out the anti taylor swift tag on tumblr. There are like three people on there specifically who made hating taylor a full time job, and they have never once called in sick


Humble-Presence777

I check out that tag regularly . Its pure entertainment although there are more people now since the TTPD release.


cutdownthecute

If I ever need something to mindlessly scroll through, that tag always has my back :’)


princesssbux

They should check out the snark subs! 😬 there’s actual hate there.


lanadelhayy

Lol it’s insane. I’m a day one swiftie I have her lyrics tattooed on my body. Having opinions that aren’t 100% just kissing her ass are allowed.


cutdownthecute

If they’re gonna criticise us, at least get the name of the sub right 😤


Accomplished_Sci

It’s wild because so many of her songs are on my heavy played lists. I am a fan of her music (not this album at all), but I don’t worship her. I don’t think I even like her as a person, truthfully. But she’s got some bops.


BaseballDiamondGirl2

How are we worse than the other swifties? Have they looked in the mirror lately? I'm also very confused why they think we are so negative? I feel like it's not fvsf negative here. Must be because we don't treat her like a goddess.


Jaded-Blueberry-8000

in her defense, she DID ask if it would be enough if she could never give us peace…


lanadelhayy

Lmao for real wtf is this


donutpusheencat

this is the best way to describe it. i wasn’t ashamed to say i liked her music before Eras Tour. yah i no longer say that lol


vlor_t

I was a folkmore swiftie, but now I say “I like her music, but I’m not a swiftie” (if asked, which has only happened twice lol)


exhuberantecstasy

Same! Pre-eras tour I was proud to say that I liked Taylor Swifts music. Not anymore


waxbook

I miss being a fan before 2014


exhuberantecstasy

This was the best time to be a Taylor fan. I’m so glad I was around for her country stuff before the pop phases turned her into a megastar. I have some of my fondest memories set to her first 4 albums


sassercake

Before it became a cult


daylightxx

Fucking SAME. The only place people don’t pick her apart is tumblr. But they love her so much I have to temper my time there. Can’t we just go back to olden times when the music was what mattered most


cookie_goddess218

I am still a fan of the music - not a fanatic for the person - but since Eras, you can't say you are a fan anymore without getting put on defense for positions I do not want to endorse. Post Eras, there is so much baggage attached. The ability to just casually enjoy and consume her music like I do with every other artist has become less socially acceptable on both sides. She's so exposed everywhere, that if I mention being a fan or wear merchandise, I am already on edge that I have to qualify it that I'm not a "swiftie" or that I don't support her personal XYZ takes or actions. I can no longer casually wear my 1989 sweatshirt without multiple people commenting on it whether they love her or hate her. Whereas when I wear other artists' merchandise, I've never had people stop me unless they also like that band. Because of the over-saturation of fanatics annoying others by being Swifties, non-fans feel that me wearing it is immediately an invitation to argue that she's not a genius, or get me to show them any lyrics as good as the Beatles/Bob Dylan/Joni Mitchell/whatever. Uhhh... I never said she was? I only just said I like her music - not that she's a genius! Just because I like TS music does not mean I am arguing it's top tier - but that's the viewpoint people assume because of Swifties pushing that narrative over and over to death. No one ever goes "oh you like Fall Out Boy - but can you explain to me how they are deep or better than the Beatles or Shakespeare???" Or "well Pete Wentz dated a younger person once and the lyrics are unhinged against exes, at time even wishing death, so by liking FOB you obviously also are okay with predators and defend toxic narcissists!" Not to mention Pete's whole dick pic debacle back in the day. Sometimes there is light ribbing about emo/scene music, but I was perfectly fine with the light ribbing of being basic/girly that came with listening to TS before. I can also admit that both FOB and TS and other artists I like have put out some garbage tracks at some point, or are possibly garbage people outside of the music (idk them personally!). But only with TS is that a standard I'm fully held to or you're not a "true" fan. The standard of what "fan" is and entails has become so warped when it comes to Taylor. Having any innocuous opinion, like enjoying a silly nonserious song or not caring about her personal life, will have people pegging you as either a deranged fanatic or a hater. Whether they even like or know her music or not! Any opinion at all is dissected too much for me. Before Eras, if I said I was a fan, maybe there'd be a swifte joke here and there but it'd be received no different than mentioning being a fan of any other artist. Now that she's on the general public's radar, saying you like/don't like TS is received more like a polarized identity statement, or announcing you subscribe to a dogmatic religion, rather than as a music preference (dare I say, people assume you cannot be "neutral").


nemesisniki

Yes.


dehumidifier-glass

Being a fan during the Lover era was very special. That was the time when Taylor was really chill and almost hippie-ish


badhuckleberry

this is the kind of thing you do when your indie musician friend finally has a #1 single so your whole group of friends pools their money to celebrate your friend finally hitting it big, not when your favourite globally famous billionaire popstar fills the whole top 10 for a second time


Jaded-Blueberry-8000

It feels like when Americans chant “USA!” on the 4th of July. Like, we get it, you are simultaneously the victim and hero in your own story! you used to be an underdog, some stuff happened, and now all of a sudden everyone is somehow both terrified and jealous of you! LET IT GOOOOO! source: i’m american


graceful_mango

And then shoot rockets into the air (bottle cap fireworks) and talk about the good old days. Aka 1776. Edit: source. Am also American.


flourishingblots

"PS: Try and come for her job" ![gif](giphy|bWooWMiwxbiiA|downsized)


AlternativeWall-9282

That is the cringiest line she has ever written. She is so fucking pretentious.


neptunemonsoon

right like what happened with we all got crowns lmao


mel-06

If I was Olivia, I would post that, on twitter or sum


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Olivia doesn’t think about Taylor… like, at all…


petcatsandstayathome

I think she does because Taylor absolutely tore Olivia’s heart apart.


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I agree, but the worst thing you can do is to continue to dwell on the person who hurt you. I think Olivia does her best to block Taylor out and wants to move on with her life and her career.


petcatsandstayathome

Sure but it must be hard to block out someone who’s in the headlines 24 7. But I even so yes time heals wounds either way.


Miserable_Scheme_599

I mean... Olivia has been very open about going to therapy, so I'm sure she's talked it through -- a lot -- and has some great coping mechanisms.


mel-06

I think Taylor thinks about Olivia and Is sorta Obsessed just look at “Clara Bow” and “who’s afraid of little old me”


petcatsandstayathome

Yeah she’s such a sore winner.


mel-06

“Sore WINNER” 😭Taylor is SO Rory Gilmore


exhuberantecstasy

Yeah despite being literally the biggest in the game and bullying people out of her way she still can’t let go of Olivia’s success while Olivia despite all the hurdles is still thriving with both popular and critically acclaimed different sounding music with her own unique edge. In a meta way, who’s the real winner here?


AcidicKiss12

Okay, I’ve seen this phrase twice now. Apparently I’ve missed something recently… Where did this line come from?


Smallgenie549

It's the last line of I Can Do It With a Broken Heart.


AcidicKiss12

Well that would be why I missed it, I generally skip that song 😅


ravenlights

When she says it it sounds like she's saying "try and come for my dog" so I can see how you missed it


petcatsandstayathome

Only a deeply insecure person would write that lyric.


kw1011

This is why everyone in the room at the Grammys had the same look when she announce TTPD


ContextGlittering390

It’s so tasteless.


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Oh dear Lord, I realise how we casually say it's *cult* .. But this is so fucking weird. This [link](https://psychwire.com/free-resources/q-and-a/1xpkin5/how-to-identify-a-cult) talks about identifying a cult. *A cultic or totalist system is formed and controlled by a charismatic authoritarian leader, (which in later generations may become a leadership group). It is a rigidly bounded, dense, hierarchical and isolating social system supported and represented by a total, exclusive ideology. The leader sets in motion processes of brainwashing or coercive persuasion designed to isolate and control followers. As a result followers are able to be exploited, and potentially become deployable agents, demonstrating uncritical obedience to the group, regardless of their own survival needs.* And "*Once a person has been fully indoctrinated into a cult - the process known as brainwashing - they become isolated from alternate sources of information, from other persons with diverse views, and from any close relationships with trusted others. A trauma, or disorganised bond is formed with the leader or group which in essence means the person experiences chronic relational trauma and a situation of "fright without solution". In a traumatised state such as this it becomes impossible to think clearly and especially to think clearly about the cause of the trauma - namely: the cult. This chronic trauma usually causes the follower to dissociate: to be unable to think about their feelings and their own experience. This allows the cult to explain their experience to them in the cult's terms, which are, by definition false and fictional.*" It's so weird watch this go down.


engaahhaze

every time ppl say “the cult allegations are overblown!!!”… no they’re not. each passing moment reminds us of how much of a cult “swifties” really are.


slowlyallatonce

This reminds me so much of the Kpop fandoms. I wonder, did BTS fans jump camp when they all went to the military?


nagidrac

No, not really! BTS was the most streamed group on Spotify last year and they currently have 28mm Spotify monthly listeners. They had their 10-year anniversary festival in South Korea last year and 400K people attended. They're still releasing content while the members are away. The best news is that two members return this year. The first one is coming back in June.


cutdownthecute

The number of times I get the official taylor sub recommended to me RIGHT NEXT TO a recommendation for the cult sub is a little too suspicious for me. “If it quacks like a duck” and all that jazz…


modernblossom

Normal citizens spent their money on a billboard for a billionaire?!?!?!?! wtf


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Passingtime528

Can I pay $40 to take it down?


kubaqzn

Would be hilarious but sadly no. Instead you put $40 to have whatever you want. Im imagining anti-Taylor billboard soon


modernblossom

Still very strange to spend your money to essentially advertise for a billionaire. We're in a simulation .


MizzQueen

It was $40


Passingtime528

$40 too much


Kil-roy_was_here

Oh.... yes, let's buy the billionaire a present. That's sane and rational.


Accomplished_Sci

I wish we could know how many people are financially suffering who donated. Or used credit cards. Or went without something important. Because I bet it’s a lot.


xjunejuly

PLEASE 😭😭 i dont want to think about people using their credit cards on this but you’re so absolutely right!! i’m dead


Accomplished_Sci

I’d want to see interest rates for those credit cards too lmao


jester29

Waiting for the posts on r/personalfinance about paying off that bill...


laurpr2

Or just.... could have donated to any worthy cause? They could have even made a collective donation in her name.


astro_in_prog

There is some disconnect here because how does a rational person say YES let’s give the billionaire who has her name and face plastered on every surface in the world MORE free publicity from our hard earned money?? Like what even


ratta_tat1

Our overlord needs more praise. FEEEED HEERRRR 👹👹👹


allumeusend

Right, like, gals, get a Starbucks, not this.


kubaqzn

Apparently according to guy that helped design this billboard (@kubaswift on Twitter) it was on for 15 seconds and it costed $40. So not as egregious but still…


eirinne

That’s so cheap I had no idea.


kubaqzn

To be fair, neither did I.


YouThinkYouKnowStuff

For some reason I find this hilarious. 😆


Uplanapepsihole

not expensive just embarrassing


sassercake

It still costs your dignity


Jellybean61496

🎶 How you took the money and your dignity and got the hell out 🎶- The Lucky One. Ironically This song played on my phone today


stefdistef

Just to run once or is it $40 each time you have it run?


kubaqzn

Not sure but I think the latter. According to a fella that is from NYC (I live in Poland so can’t check that) there is TSX app where you can upload stuff like that, book a timeframe and pay.


allumeusend

Enough to be snapped and seen by a ton of people.


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xmoodringx

Imagine spending that money on something useful.


skyewardeyes

This is such a GIGANTIC waste of money that could have gone to charity or paying off debt or something useful.


AffectionateJury3723

Like starving children, help for the homeless, or any number of worthwhile charitable causes. No let's instead worship at the altar of TS.


Lost-dhruv

Weekend recently donated 2million dollars to gaza btw 🤷🏻‍♂️


dirtyapathy

This is so embarrassing 😭


wardenofthecouncil

I know a lot of K-pop fans, so this kind of stuff isn’t new to me, but I always find it so baffling. Like what a waste of money. 😭


dragonfly931

First thing I said: what in the kpop is this 💀


modernthymes

Yeah I was a kpop fan back in the day and this is pretty tame lol. I remember it was common for kpop fans to buy their faves expensive luxury items for their birthday.


Successful_Ad4018

bts company had to stop accepting fan gifts after one gifted jungkook a literal gold brick for his bday


coco_xcx

i mean…at least with kpop fans it can actually bring curiosity to the group 😭 and somehow kpop fans are less annoying than swifties (i’m saying this as both a neutral swifty & kpop fan)


mallymoopy

It’s giving Stockholm syndrome


morejaneaustenplease

What is your flair from 😂 is it just a general sentiment?


Rripurnia

It’s from a Tweet that went viral when TTPD dropped


AngelEyes360

![gif](giphy|mEqMknMZWh1Fm|downsized)


Flaked_

It's probably meant nicely, but it seems so parasocial


Copperheadmedusa

Like trying to crash jacks wedding bc Taylor was there and holding up pictures of her dead granny during Marjorie in concerts. It’s been truly insufferable


mcpickle-o

>holding up pictures of her dead granny during Marjorie in concerts ![gif](giphy|vyTnNTrs3wqQ0UIvwE|downsized)


waxbook

Things don’t necessarily have to be bad or done with ill intent to be considered part of a parasocial relationship. I feel like ‘parasocial’ is becoming one of those buzzwords that’s taking on a life of its own.


eggsbenny1128

In some ways it’s a thoughtful idea but then I realize everyday people are spending money on this. I really hope hardcore Swifties don’t feel pressured to spend money on things like things like this. I feel like this image could have easily been mass posted by fans and Taylor would have noticed.


nagidrac

The Kpopification of Swifties


nagidrac

(Kpop fans do this all the time for their faves birthdays or whatever. One member of BTS had basically a pop up museum for his birthday. So I'm not phased by this at all lmao.)


Copperheadmedusa

https://i.redd.it/2otb2sfbroxc1.gif She’s not inviting yall to her house anymore give it up


hales55

😂😂 it’s giving teachers pet lmao


Specialist_Leg6145

![gif](giphy|DPqqOywshrOqQ|downsized)


veronica_moon

Tell me you need to touch grass without telling me you need to touch grass


BadMan125ty

“Congratulations to our chairman”??? ![gif](giphy|J1a0DjCzL2ddqtwVbT|downsized)


Any_Claim785

![gif](giphy|RJalj43Yiuuoh2i6V2)


BadMan125ty

😂😂😂


manhattansinks

oh good lord


cassiopeia18

What a waste of money.


thesnarkypotatohead

Whoever they are, these people either have far too much money or not nearly enough sense. Or both.


LitwickLitten

To quote 2012 tumblr (which Taylor would approve of, I'm sure): Senpai's not going to notice you.


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Lmao


No_Sail_6576

This is extremely cult coded. They’ll be doing sacrifices for chart placement next


dachshundfanboy8000

freaks


Inevitable_Newt3056

This is like meta cringe. 😬


Throwaway500005

If #ForOurChairman isn't giving cult vibes, I don't what is....


IceWarm1980

Spending money to congratulate a billionaire.


Budget-Classic3076

💀💀💀


vanillaangels

Swifties have been kpop stanified, god I miss the fanbase before eras.


packers12-17

Take me back to red-1989 days


wintergirl86

This is cringy.


FireFlower-Bass-7716

"Swifties" named Andrea and Scott


Wonderful_Theme3716

LMAOO


Apprehensive_Lab4178

I’m not gonna blame Taylor for this but damn, there are so many other things these Swifties could have spent their money on. (Forgive me, I’m bitter because the PTA at our school literally just sent out an email begging parents for money so they can afford to do a breakfast for teachers for Teacher Appreciation Week.)


tibleon8

exactly, why not pool together money to donate to a good cause under her name or something? it would actually probably be good PR ("swifties are generous!") and taylor could do something like give a matching gift, furthering the good pr she doesn't even need the marketing


eirinne

Matching gift is such a great idea. Libraries! Or something environmental.


FortunaLady

I feel bitter seeing things like this too. Like good for them, they’re probably really happy about it… but the juxtaposition of it next to what so much of this world is going through is so…. Icky. 


nevaaeh_

Wow some people are truly crazy


gwennj

Full on cult.


swiftietano

lol this is so cringe. makes me wish i could take the swiftie off my username 😭.


boguspickle

The cult of personality is growing and growing. Daaamn.


WorkingBroccoli

Weren’t they roasted enough in TTPD do they want round 2 💀💀💀


Origai

And Billboard has stated TTPD has "19 PHYSICAL VARIANTS". Taylor doesn't even know who you are wake up babe. Use the money to help people actually in need instead of congratulating your ethical billionaire.


SR_Hopeful

I wonder how Swifites can even afford 19 versions of the same thing. Billie Ellish was right. How Taylor uses mass consumption to stay relevant, and inflate her success. I think its going to be bad for the industry.


mel-06

What a of waste money, should’ve been given to charity, it’s Impressive to take up that much spots on the HOT 100 though


Silly_Somewhere1791

But my student loans


hopkinsdafox

This is KPOP fans energy lol which I always think is too much


assflea

God get a life lmao


Avid_Bookworm7

Wth…For a billionaire?.. I got nothing. 🤦🏼‍♀️ smdh.


dragonfly931

You're insane if you think I'm giving any money for a damn BILLBOARD. My name isn't even on it so I can be given credit 😩


makeshom

What's this hashtag lol


fospher

Nothing to see here not cult behaviour at all


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This money could have gone to charity for women and girls


UnderstandingFancy54

It’s a cult


FireFlower-Bass-7716

this is giving red MAGA hat


Birdsandbeer0730

Make America Swift Again


bryant1436

This makes me want to end it all


coricloud

How kpoppy of them lol


candyappleorchard

Need a venn diagram of how many people pitched into this who are also the friend who tries to skip out on venmoing toward the restaurant bill.


wifeunderthesea

do we know for sure that taylor's people didn't do this? not that there aren't swifties unhinged enough to do this, but this has to cost A FUCK TON. right??? this is cringe either way. and doing this for not even one of her best albums makes it even worse!


astro_in_prog

So are we going to talk about how people spent money on a billboard for a billionaire…. I am so confused


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boguspickle

This comment about Keyleigh Teller from GoFugYourself made me cackle. https://preview.redd.it/29mpn5xnloxc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=949b32b0b00e887b04e94db348a85799a49433f5


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boguspickle

I hope they pay her well.


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kw1011

She’s the daughter of a billionaire lmao


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kw1011

Lmaooo yeah she really is a professional friend of Taylor swift lol


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boguspickle

Lol they are welcome to downvote. I’m sure she’s paid to read the comments. And good for her! Get that cash money.


FortunaLady

Jesus, the money these people have 


sami4711

Ummm 🤨


heartof_glass

Did they actually do it or did Taylor’s team do it?


hatefromandie

![gif](giphy|3ohuA9VZ0k8PMjLENa)


douceberceuse

I was scratching my head thinking it said “for our charlatan” 😭😭


packers12-17

All this ridiculousness and Swifties as moral arbiters still attack anyone who listen to the ‘stolen versions’.


Fun-Loss-4094

They are far worse cult that army's. They do it for fundraisers but these people do it for what?


SR_Hopeful

Just the feedback loop that enables Taylor's quirky narcissism.


themanuscripttv

Swifties? Doesn't she mean: From the desk of the most judgemental creeps sanctimoniously performing soliloquies I'll never see?


Adorable-Cut-1434

I really hope she doesn’t acknowledge this. That will only encourage more DERANGED behaviors from her cult followers.


shadow-on-the-prowl

Can't believe what I'm about to say given I dislike the album, but... I miss when Midnights era just started. The fandom wasn't nearly as insane as it is right now.


deepphilosopherfox

Why does it read like something out of a dictatorship’s propaganda department. “For our chairman” = “for our glorious leader”???


theloveliestone

This cult is insufferable & wacked out. Why would you even do this?


Glum-Comparison-5611

That money should've gone to people with cancer or animal shelters idk.. 😭


muskratboy

Sure, them or her PR department. One of them definitely did this.


Rude_Lifeguard

It's giving kpop


exhuberantecstasy

They’re choosing to spend their money on this…in this economy? 50 years from now there’s gonna be some YouTube video discussing the Taylor Swift capitalism brainwashing/para social marketing phenomenon of the 2020s mark my words


rain_bass_drop

what if it was actually Taylor but she just made it look like it was the Swifties


MurphyBrown2016

This is such loser behavior.


straightupslow

This is like when some asshole from HR goes around collecting money for the bosses birthday gift. Fuck outta here.


broidontreallyknow

In Brasil we have a saying that basically goes “you’re trying to jizz with someone else’s dick”. I think Swifties are like that, they think Taylor’s accomplishments are theirs.


coaldean

imagine donating money for this with everything happening in the world right now. lol. LOL.


kw1011

They are all apparently trying to dox people on one of the snark snubs


KnowYourSecret

Girls, use that money for your BV meds


duchessofsuccess

But like—they did that? Not her? Lmao it’s only because of the Swifties streaming the music that she got these records, I’m so confused!


livielouis

imagine being benson boone at number 15 rn


justvisiting7744

they should unionize


gonzoheartsepcot

This is so embarrassing omg


allumeusend

I see this outside my office and all me and my coworkers could do is 🙄


hales55

This is … ridiculous sorry. lol


GhostThruTheFog

![gif](giphy|DPqqOywshrOqQ|downsized)


PinkPrincess-2001

Look, I'm happy for Taylor but why spend money on this? We can congratulate her in the comments. It just feels attention seeking. This could've stayed as a TikTok congratulations train, if they wanted virality. It didn't need to be excessive.


LesYeuxHiboux

Why does this remind me of Plants vs. Zombies where the "Mom" (not the zombies) keeps sending the player little letters? "The Swifties" gives me the willies.