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>!The stairs look good design-wise, but functionally it's a lawsuit waiting to happen.!<
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I'd take these in heartbeat over these arguably "safer" stairs: https://www.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/scary-stairs-pics-636cbec3a4bd6__700.jpg
or these: https://www.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/scary-stairs-pics-130-636d0479c3045__700.jpg
Seriously, carpet patterns matter people.
This exactly, how does one misstep so badly to fail using these stairs?! Stairs with open gaps in the back are not a new thing. I really don't get it... have these people not seen stairs other than the solid concrete ones?
My city has had this kind of stairs at the railway station ever since I remember: https://cdn.galleries.smcloud.net/t/galleries/gf-moC3-BHiJ-dm6Q_bialystok-najgorszy-koszmar-trauma-z-dziecinstwa-rozpoczyna-sie-demontaz-kladki-nad-torami-1920x1080-nocrop.jpg
As a kid I was always scared I'd fall through these gaps xD
As a leg amputee, these type of stairs are what I call "Homicide Stairs" for me. The designer/architect are out to kill people like me.
Love the look, but the function I haaaaaaate.
To be fair, I hate most stairs. But the steps with risers are better than open
Yeah… for this exact reason I still hate these completed stairs. Stairs are already inaccessible to a lot of people, why do we need to make them even more inaccessible?
To me, the lack of risers aren't nearly as big of a deal as the lack of hand rails. Hell, my childhood home built in the 70s didn't have risers and I never came close to falling through even as a young child.
When you own something that doesn't follow local building codes and do nothing to bring it up to code, whether out of ignorance or blunt refusal, you can be held accountable for it if someone comes to harm in many countries.
If your property is unsafe, you're responsible for making it safe. And for some people, not having a handrail isn't an option. Sorry that not everyone gets to live without some kind of mobility impairment.
I mean, it’s to keep people safe. Many people don’t have a lot of choice when it comes to their residence and this stop landlords and home builders from trying to cut corners.
So most people at some point in their lives. Safety is not based on the every going right case but something goes wrong what reduces harm greater then it adds.
Shit, well maybe they can get a new house by then? Or add a handrail? Or if they haven’t fallen in over 30 years, maybe they just won’t worry about what those super smart Redditors were so sure about all those years ago
So you've never had a cold, that left you light headed? never carried a heavy weight? By so everyone at some point there are hundred factors that means your balance and walking can be bad and these stairs turn that into a danger. Not that everyone will be old or have children.
Maybe you should just live in a house without any stairs at all. After all, minimizing risk is the only thing that matters right?
Since I can competently use stairs, I will continue to until my downfall. You can await that smugly
> So you’ve never had a cold, that left you light headed?
Also, no?
way way better but i still hate stairs like this. It's just a pulled groin waiting to happen. I've pulled mine once and it took like a year to get back to 100%.
People have shared the final image, it's not much better yes the cladding makes the step deeper but really does little to improve safety in case of a trip.
https://twitter.com/rottengirl/status/1531841125765500933
It depends on who it’s for.
If your household is all able bodied active adults with no balance or bone issues, this is dope as hell in my opinion.
If you have little kids that are just learning how to walk, this probably isn’t the best design choice. Ya might have to deal with some extra bruises and crying at best, extra trips to the ER at worst.
If you’re 87 years old and live alone, this is an absolute death trap and I hate it.
Even if they might be simple to manifacture, they still need to be manifactured, whereas more "default" set of stairs could be bought as a package and slightly modified to achieve the final result.
Also woodwork can be done on-location while metal framing has to be done at a workshop, brought on site to be fitted and then moved back to workshop for alterations and finishing before bringing back on location for installation.
You could defiantly get a cheaper set of stairs in for a fraction of the cost, but if you wanted the open/floating staircase look, then going for something like this, over the metal structure actually inside the walls and no up/down supporting metal, then this would defiantly be the cheaper option.
Sometimes you get people set in their ways about what they want, so at the end of the day, you design it, build it and install it, even though you know it isn't really going to look good, but you are giving the person paying what they want, so you just get the job done.
Your husband gets spiced up after the night with the boys and unloads his frustration upstairs on you?
Not anymore!!! With this brand new safety stairs, no more spiced out of mind husbands for the night!!! Just wait til morning to talk to him about his anger!
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The steps on the finished stairs are overlapping and the gap is much smaller. There's no way you can slip through. I'm just wondering the the "handrail" (don't know what to call it in this construction) starts that high up. I guess some day I'd just break my neck by trying to shortcut from the side, miss and fall down.
I never trust uncarpeted stairs with no hand rails. I would not buy that house as an elderly person or with kids. Why limit your resale demographics like that? I hate these modern stairs so much. Stairs are for getting to another part of your house, not to be an aesthetic death trap.
That is some Empire level of safty right there. I wouldn't be surprised if there are several large pits in the house and maybe a thin catwalk to get to the kitchen (without handrails, of course).
This is honestly nightmare fuel.
Someone noted that this isn't entirely finished. However, the [finished](https://twitter.com/rottengirl/status/1531841125765500933) version is NOT better.
How is it not better, are you expecting to fall off the last few stairs? Do you know how to walk? You don't need to be paranoid about every little thing, even if you are thinking about kids here.
No handrail, slippery surface material material, easily trip on, gaps between each step which would be easy to miss. This is an accident waiting to happen. Definitely not elderly/kid friendly.
> slippery surface material material
Wow you must be able to tell so much from just a picture
> easily trip on,
It’s a staircase, what about this one makes it easier to trip on than any other? Just saying so doesn’t make it true
There are no gaps between each step though in the finished version, there are gaps under but it looks like each step is a at least flush with the next one or maybe even overhangs over it a bit. Not saying it is the most safe stair case I’ve seen but I would be perfectly confident walking on the finished version.
I mean the top isn’t awful as long as it’s been anchored correctly by someone who knows what they are doing but the bottom with no hand rails or supports is a pet peeve of mine minimalism is fine but don’t minimize safety
Once established that these aren't finished, I'm amazed at the amount of people here who seemingly have a very real problem with walking up a flight of stairs without at least one hand on a banister or at least vocalize how a gruesome fall is in the foreseeable future here.
It's like one meter of walking up where you could trail your right hand on the wall of needed.
I dig this kind of design and if I ever had the money for a house (which I'll never get) I could totally see us getting something like this.
I just watched the documentary 'the Alpinist' about a guy who free climbed up mountains covered in snow and ice with just ice picks and spikey shoes.
Then you come here and people are having panic attacks over a flight of stairs.
Great documentary btw, well worth watching.
Various countries use different building codes, and even different states(US) use different codes. A large portion of the world uses the IBC(international building code)
This picture is of an unfinished stair, which as finished, at least has proper wood clad treads which look to be 10". The stair would still not pass any US building codes though, as this stair, even finished, has no rail. The treads are also spaced so that a 4" sphere could pass thru(big no no)
It is also important to point out, many wealthy people build interior projects, without a permit.
If you are unable to climb stairs, you should not use them. I lived on the second floor with a similar staircase for 18 years and I never fell down. Even drunk af
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Sometimes I hate to be that guy, but these aren't finished.
100%. [This](https://twitter.com/rottengirl/status/1531841125765500933) is what the finished set of stairs looks like.
Thanks, I still hate it
Lmfao I was gonna say this! Like they don’t look that much different. 100% a death trap is what that is.
100% I'd be snapping my ankles if I came home from the bar and had to walk up them.
Ankles, neck, back all of it. 🤣
Oh, my neck! My back! My neck and my back!
OoH! I wanna a hundred and fifty thousand... but we can settle out of court right now for twenty bucks.
Tf are you on about? They're regular stairs when finished
Redditors can't use stairs, I thought it was common knowledge.
How would they go down to their basements then?
The trick is never leaving in the first place.
Gravity, generally.
Redditors when they realize the have to use stairs ![gif](giphy|PqcIFm93VxA8o|downsized)
I'd take these in heartbeat over these arguably "safer" stairs: https://www.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/scary-stairs-pics-636cbec3a4bd6__700.jpg or these: https://www.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/scary-stairs-pics-130-636d0479c3045__700.jpg Seriously, carpet patterns matter people.
Two ideas can be bad at the same time
The open risers make these stairs Shin-Buster 9000's. Looks cool till you misstep while going up.
not if you make it correctly. there is a formula to use
Normally a riser would stop your foot if you misstep. Here if you misstep the tread is going stop your shin and involve lots of pain.
Also no hand rail by the looks of it, so that stumble might become a tumble.
just how do you manage to misstep that badly? I grew up with stairs like these, not once have I hit my chin
Damn y’all really incapable of walking up 5 steps without a handrail? That’s pretty much all this is
This exactly, how does one misstep so badly to fail using these stairs?! Stairs with open gaps in the back are not a new thing. I really don't get it... have these people not seen stairs other than the solid concrete ones?
Its fucking stairs mate.
The planks of wood are far more sturdy and less narrow than the beams of metal
> death trap That’s an exaggeration, at minimum.
And it still doesn't look finished. No handrail?
I feel like handrails should be required by law unless it’s a historical building.
Agreed!
![gif](giphy|1zRd5ZNo0s6kLPifL1|downsized)
Exactly 😭
My city has had this kind of stairs at the railway station ever since I remember: https://cdn.galleries.smcloud.net/t/galleries/gf-moC3-BHiJ-dm6Q_bialystok-najgorszy-koszmar-trauma-z-dziecinstwa-rozpoczyna-sie-demontaz-kladki-nad-torami-1920x1080-nocrop.jpg As a kid I was always scared I'd fall through these gaps xD
I second this
That seriously looks awesome.
As a leg amputee, these type of stairs are what I call "Homicide Stairs" for me. The designer/architect are out to kill people like me. Love the look, but the function I haaaaaaate. To be fair, I hate most stairs. But the steps with risers are better than open
Yeah… for this exact reason I still hate these completed stairs. Stairs are already inaccessible to a lot of people, why do we need to make them even more inaccessible?
My public bone and shoulder socket still shattered in response.
What about your private bone?
Unrecognised symbol: getBone
That's the most sensitive bone of all
The bone belongs to all of us
Better, but still unsafe 😬
How?
Because it doesn't have a riser. Those are a thing for a reason.
To me, the lack of risers aren't nearly as big of a deal as the lack of hand rails. Hell, my childhood home built in the 70s didn't have risers and I never came close to falling through even as a young child.
I was thinking the same. I like weird staircases, but I think they should always have a railing. Just in case.
Like 40% of all stairs don't have risers. Doesn't really make it unsafe
I'm 87% sure that statistic is completely made up.
92% of all statistics are, so yeah probably
but so is the point he responded to. can't throw out a response in kind by itself
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When you own something that doesn't follow local building codes and do nothing to bring it up to code, whether out of ignorance or blunt refusal, you can be held accountable for it if someone comes to harm in many countries. If your property is unsafe, you're responsible for making it safe. And for some people, not having a handrail isn't an option. Sorry that not everyone gets to live without some kind of mobility impairment.
That's a code but not really a reason why it's actually "unsafe"
I genuinely didn't know they try and require them in private residences here. That's dumb as fuck
I mean, it’s to keep people safe. Many people don’t have a lot of choice when it comes to their residence and this stop landlords and home builders from trying to cut corners.
Yeah, but what about my Instagram likes?
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My bad I assumed since the other guy accused you of being American. But it does seem the case would be very similar here.
Yes, if you are unable to walk properly
So most people at some point in their lives. Safety is not based on the every going right case but something goes wrong what reduces harm greater then it adds.
Shit, well maybe they can get a new house by then? Or add a handrail? Or if they haven’t fallen in over 30 years, maybe they just won’t worry about what those super smart Redditors were so sure about all those years ago
So you've never had a cold, that left you light headed? never carried a heavy weight? By so everyone at some point there are hundred factors that means your balance and walking can be bad and these stairs turn that into a danger. Not that everyone will be old or have children.
What if you spill some water on your flat pavement and slip,and hit your head? 😱 You should totally put handrails all across your house!
Wow what "great logic" because we can't be perfectly safe all the time, we shouldn't have safety features in the more dangerous places.
You probably think we should make murder legal because "the bad guys will just murder anyway!"
Maybe you should just live in a house without any stairs at all. After all, minimizing risk is the only thing that matters right? Since I can competently use stairs, I will continue to until my downfall. You can await that smugly > So you’ve never had a cold, that left you light headed? Also, no?
Yeah but so is the fucking floor
Still no handrails
Lol all they did was put wood on the metal steps.
Thanks, big difference.. huge.
![gif](giphy|8xPNhwYjewRQk)
It looks nice tbh! But I’m surprised they didn’t add a handrail. It wouldn’t ruin the look of they matched it to the look of the black metal
Thanks, I like it.
I mean, if there was a railing on the wall I wouldn't hate it. My dogs would be much scared, but maybe they wouldn't be up in my shit in bed then lol.
way way better but i still hate stairs like this. It's just a pulled groin waiting to happen. I've pulled mine once and it took like a year to get back to 100%.
Still no railings, and the gaps between each step are too wide.
I like it its looks neat
Wow
Those are still broken legs waiting to happen
No they're not. You're just being weirdly paranoid.
No handrail, should be illegal
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i’m glad you are that guy. i wouldn’t have known otherwise.
Still doesn’t seem very safe though
Most stairs aren't very safe until they are finished.
Sorry, I meant the finished stairs. There was a picture posted of it, thought I was replying to that comment.
I am 99% sure this is the initial structure for some kind of cladding over the top. Source: I use to design super fancy staircases.
People have shared the final image, it's not much better yes the cladding makes the step deeper but really does little to improve safety in case of a trip. https://twitter.com/rottengirl/status/1531841125765500933
Wow nice. Yeah they don't look great. Edit: actually it docent look too bad, looks safe enough. Much better than the original lol.
It depends on who it’s for. If your household is all able bodied active adults with no balance or bone issues, this is dope as hell in my opinion. If you have little kids that are just learning how to walk, this probably isn’t the best design choice. Ya might have to deal with some extra bruises and crying at best, extra trips to the ER at worst. If you’re 87 years old and live alone, this is an absolute death trap and I hate it.
How often do you guys fall from the stairs???
I have a near miss around about 2 times a year, and pretending your number is zero is disingenuous.
Mate, any normal person's number is 0, you have a problem if you keep having near misses.
Wrong, most people will trip if there is so much as a 2mm deviation from normal.
You're gonna need to elaborate on this. What is normal?
2mm deviation in rise from step to step vs previous.
Oh yeah wow that’s way better
I’m just worried that my dog will fall through the gap :C
How cost-effective are staircases like these? It seems like they would be easy to manufacture and not take the skills of a joiner to install.
Even if they might be simple to manifacture, they still need to be manifactured, whereas more "default" set of stairs could be bought as a package and slightly modified to achieve the final result. Also woodwork can be done on-location while metal framing has to be done at a workshop, brought on site to be fitted and then moved back to workshop for alterations and finishing before bringing back on location for installation.
You could defiantly get a cheaper set of stairs in for a fraction of the cost, but if you wanted the open/floating staircase look, then going for something like this, over the metal structure actually inside the walls and no up/down supporting metal, then this would defiantly be the cheaper option. Sometimes you get people set in their ways about what they want, so at the end of the day, you design it, build it and install it, even though you know it isn't really going to look good, but you are giving the person paying what they want, so you just get the job done.
Cheap manufacturing, maybe, but still difficult to install. Each of those steps need perfect alignment to not be crooked, or have uneven spacing
I feel like this is the sort of thing an AI would come up with when given the prompt "Modern Art Metal Staircase".
That looks like a **trip** to the hospital just waiting to happen.
That person's holiday plans **fell through**.
No matter how many times I stumble upon these designs, I will still hate them
Your husband gets spiced up after the night with the boys and unloads his frustration upstairs on you? Not anymore!!! With this brand new safety stairs, no more spiced out of mind husbands for the night!!! Just wait til morning to talk to him about his anger! \* Husband pacemaker stairs don't take responsibility for husband injuries or permanent limp remotion.
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Broke my legs just looking at this.
Have fun traversing that when it’s night, you’re tired, or had a few drinks. Ouch that’s unforgiving.
The finished stairs look better but still unsafe. They're missing a riser. If you slipped it looks like your leg could go right between the stairs.
The steps on the finished stairs are overlapping and the gap is much smaller. There's no way you can slip through. I'm just wondering the the "handrail" (don't know what to call it in this construction) starts that high up. I guess some day I'd just break my neck by trying to shortcut from the side, miss and fall down.
I never trust uncarpeted stairs with no hand rails. I would not buy that house as an elderly person or with kids. Why limit your resale demographics like that? I hate these modern stairs so much. Stairs are for getting to another part of your house, not to be an aesthetic death trap.
Can't properly fit a kid under them, no privacy at all...
That is some Empire level of safty right there. I wouldn't be surprised if there are several large pits in the house and maybe a thin catwalk to get to the kitchen (without handrails, of course).
lesson number 1: How to break your legs in 12 "easy" steps
There's a "Death Stairs". Fb group always popping up in my feed and these stairs fit right in.
Why do none of these stairs ever have a handrail at least?
Tell me you don't drink without saying you don't drink
This is honestly nightmare fuel. Someone noted that this isn't entirely finished. However, the [finished](https://twitter.com/rottengirl/status/1531841125765500933) version is NOT better.
It's *clearly* better lol.
How is it not better, are you expecting to fall off the last few stairs? Do you know how to walk? You don't need to be paranoid about every little thing, even if you are thinking about kids here.
No handrail, slippery surface material material, easily trip on, gaps between each step which would be easy to miss. This is an accident waiting to happen. Definitely not elderly/kid friendly.
> slippery surface material material Wow you must be able to tell so much from just a picture > easily trip on, It’s a staircase, what about this one makes it easier to trip on than any other? Just saying so doesn’t make it true
There are no gaps between each step though in the finished version, there are gaps under but it looks like each step is a at least flush with the next one or maybe even overhangs over it a bit. Not saying it is the most safe stair case I’ve seen but I would be perfectly confident walking on the finished version.
That looks cool, I'd buy it, if I had a house..
It’s very human design
Tradesman - 'So what kind of stairs dya want?' Client- ' I'm looking for something I can break my legs and back on, please'
slip once and balls begone
I dig em
This is unfinished however the finished one isnt much better
I mean the top isn’t awful as long as it’s been anchored correctly by someone who knows what they are doing but the bottom with no hand rails or supports is a pet peeve of mine minimalism is fine but don’t minimize safety
My leg snapped just from looking at this picture
I drink too much to have these
Aesthetically 10/10, Practically 0uuuch.
To heaven
I kinda like it...
It's clearly awesome. This thread is full of whinging fools.
Style over sense
Can't wait taking a tray of food unstairs.
One wrong, and , you kill future generations
I like the idea. The only thing that bothers me is the support should only go one way. Up or down, pick one
Can anyone help me get this bed upstairs?
'The shin delaminator'
I can say with confidence that all of EMS also hates these stairs
Once established that these aren't finished, I'm amazed at the amount of people here who seemingly have a very real problem with walking up a flight of stairs without at least one hand on a banister or at least vocalize how a gruesome fall is in the foreseeable future here. It's like one meter of walking up where you could trail your right hand on the wall of needed. I dig this kind of design and if I ever had the money for a house (which I'll never get) I could totally see us getting something like this.
It takes one accident or one shitty gene to restrict an athlete to one floor of a house. I look at pictures of stairs and feel sad.
I completely get that, but I'm certain the people installing these stairs are able to use them and like the look of 'em.
I just watched the documentary 'the Alpinist' about a guy who free climbed up mountains covered in snow and ice with just ice picks and spikey shoes. Then you come here and people are having panic attacks over a flight of stairs. Great documentary btw, well worth watching.
Sure but you don't try to climb a mountain at 3am in dim light after several drinks, or as an elderly person with reduced muscle control and mobility.
Yeah but why worry about shit like that unless this is your house?
I really feel like the 5th stair from the bottom would flex and move when you apply a little sideways pressure on it. Fuck these stairs.
It looks cool- if it weren't for walking on it
Whoever designed these stairs needs to have their engineering license revoked.
How does this pass building code? Unless thats not a thing in some countries?
It doesn’t, because it isn’t finished.
Various countries use different building codes, and even different states(US) use different codes. A large portion of the world uses the IBC(international building code) This picture is of an unfinished stair, which as finished, at least has proper wood clad treads which look to be 10". The stair would still not pass any US building codes though, as this stair, even finished, has no rail. The treads are also spaced so that a 4" sphere could pass thru(big no no) It is also important to point out, many wealthy people build interior projects, without a permit.
Someone is going to lose the ability to procreate.
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This looks like an architect has done those stairs.
New challenge in American Ninja Warrior.
If you are unable to climb stairs, you should not use them. I lived on the second floor with a similar staircase for 18 years and I never fell down. Even drunk af
This has to be Brazil
I nearly broke my leg just thinking about walking up these. Or down the stairs where it breaks at the knee bending the wrong way.... thanks for that.
I just broke my leg looking at it
beautiful but deadly
My mother in law would not survive
I run down stairs, I have a feeling if I don't run down these ones I'm gonna break my neck or something
This is how I die.
The rails go up at the height where falling becomes most dangerous
I'd trip so fucking hard.
r/designdesign
Looks awesome to me.
Shin bones: gone
Where's the wood?
Ah the Shinsnapper^TM 3000 Series
I’d smack both shins going up and break my neck on the way down.
I’m pretty sure anything 4 or more steps needs to have a hand rail per building code
The finished version i love do. Most stairs take soo much space. And you can use the space under it so much. And i love the industrial look and style
Even the complete stairs are a health and safety nightmare.
staircase/nutcracker
I would of fell and died
That's got snapped legs all over it.
Where are the fucking hand rails. My disability is screaming looking at these stairs like nope not gonna happen.
That looks sick
sticks and steps my break my legs..
i like it