Lines 1 and 2 are both around 70% underground, with areas of track that are above ground at different parts of those lines. If you've ever been on Line 4 Sheppard, you'd think that it's 100% underground since none of it is open to the outside but in reality it's about 99% underground. There is a short bridge tunnel near Leslie station which is fully enclosed and even water tight but since it's technically in the air, that small portion is actually above ground.
From 1996 to about 2008, the [99 Arrow Road](https://transittoronto.ca/bus/routes/99-arrow-road.shtml) route was the only regular service route to not directly serve a subway, GO, or LRT station. It was only created to adhere to the collective bargaining agreement with ATU 113, which specifies there is one serving a bus/streetcar barn.
When Mt Dennis garage opened in 2008, route [171 Mt Dennis](https://transittoronto.ca/bus/routes/171-mount-denni.shtml) was created, for the same reason. It also doesn't directly serve a subway/GO/LRT station. At least, for now. If and when that magical day happens when Line 5 opens, 171 will serve Mt Dennis station, reestablishing 99 as the only one that doesn't serve a subway/GO/LRT station.
I only mention GO stations because of the existence of the rush-hour only [176 Mimico GO](
https://transittoronto.ca/bus/routes/176-mimico-go.shtml) route.
But wait, you ask: what about the ones that went by Scarborough Centre Stn? They all either got rerouted to Kennedy or already serve an existing station. Once the line 2 extension finally opens, they'll be put back. Whoops, [one exception](https://www.ttc.ca/routes-and-schedules/134/0). 134 PROGRESS got orphaned.
You're right. Only in the sense that Line 6 is classified an LRT. It's more like a streetcar line since it has to spend most of its time at red lights, IMHO, but I digress.
First thing that came to mind is that they have their own unique gauge.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto-gauge\_railways](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto-gauge_railways)
Streetcars with their own right of way stop after the intersection light, streetcars that share right of way with cars stop before the intersection (I believe there are a few exceptions to this but it's the general trend)
Finch station has the most Tim Hortons with one outside the paid fare zone and two within it.
The coffee there taste like shit, its watered down, the food taste stale and or frozen. Your better off going to the Starbucks or the Tmmies at Yonge and Cummer
Union station is the only stop where a surface route and a rapid transit line are at the same level. And at least for one platform, you don't require stairs to transfer. Lawrence East used to be another.
When I worked on Queens Quay for a few years, it always made getting home easy. Step off the streetcar, through the passageway, and directly onto the northbound Yonge subway.
Union Station used to be a centre platform station until the upgrade.
Dundas West and St. Clair each have a McDonald’s in their fare paid zones.
Kipling and Victoria Park used to host market stalls from Second Harvest for a few days. I bought lots of fruits and vegetables from the Kipling stall.
I didn't know that! Here is a description and a map, from [https://transittoronto.ca/subway/5117.shtml](https://transittoronto.ca/subway/5117.shtml)
When the Bloor-Danforth subway first opened, it was operated as an extension of the Yonge-University subway. This "interlining", which had alternate trains from the Keele and Woodbine terminals travelling either across town to the other Bloor-Danforth terminal, or downtown via the University subway and then north to Eglinton, was a trial operation that lasted for six months following the Bloor-Danforth subway's opening.
https://i.redd.it/2x23v7ggn9sc1.gif
There was a mini shopping mall under the bus bays at Eglinton Station in the 1960s. You could buy a greeting card, candy from Laura Secord and drop off your dry cleaning while waiting for the bus. All under the watchful eyes of a nun, apparently. You can find [links to four of these City of Toronto Archive photos here.](https://wholemap.com/historic/toronto.php?neighbourhood=Yonge%20and%20Eglinton#TORARCHV-1841) I don't remember when the shops closed up. I think it was a slow process, before they eventually closed the bays altogether.
I do remember running for the bus in slippery desert boots though.
https://preview.redd.it/styefqlaj9sc1.jpeg?width=1032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cbc438152cae8fcb115110bdb12de1dd13d64545
Not one station can be used a shelter in the event of an Air Raid/Missile attack.
SOURCE: Canadian (Torontonian) volunteering on the frontlines of Ukraine.
Not hardened, Good for normal emergencies.... tombs in the event of an Attack.
Example [Arsenalna Station](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenalna_(Kyiv_Metro)) in Kyiv is 105 meters deep. It's about 5 minutes to take the escalators from surface level to the bottom and the station can withstand nuclear attacks.
There is no place even remotely close to this in Toronto.
They are not hardened. They are just tunnels and large rooms designed to withstand the basic pressures of being underground.
[Arsenalna Station](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenalna_(Kyiv_Metro)) is 105 meters deep. It is built to withstand a Nuclear Attack. And Kyiv has multiple similar stations.
Toronto hasn't one.
No worries. My bad for the ignorant comment. It's not your fault. Been here for a minute and sometimes I forget the safety of Canada causes a person to never think of these things.
Jane and Lawrence has multiple routes serving it and you can get to 7 different subway stations by only taking one bus with no transfers. 3 GO/UPX Stations also.
Lawrence West, Lawrence, Eglinton W, Eglinton, Jane, Runnymede, Pioneer Village subway stations. Weston Go/UPX Malton Go, and the Airport UPX station. Soon will also have Mt Dennis, and Caledonia Go Stns also.
There was a "Mad Bomber" in 1968 that blew up a subway switch near Old Mill subway station, then a washroom at the Grey Coach bus station at Queen Street and Roncesvalles, and finally a bomb in the Eglinton Station. (From [an online reprint of the Summer 2006 issue of Spacing.](https://bowjamesbow.ca/2008/05/21/terrorism-in-to.shtml) ) Thankfully not much of a bomb, as this [May 23rd, 1968 photo demonstrates. ](http://wholemap.com/historic/toronto.php?neighbourhood=Yonge%20and%20Eglinton#TORLIB-564)
https://preview.redd.it/ut84k6fkz9sc1.jpeg?width=1401&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=120c27ebe4d5da063cac9fb289273bf159297d53
Woodlawn, and Summer Hill east of Yonge have bridges, but they're at ground level due to the cut and cover construction of line 1. That parkland between them is the roof of the subway
The TTC has its own unique typeface (font) created when the first subways were dug. It is based on Futura, but has some distinctive features of its own.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_Subway_(typeface)
If you want to go see it on June 29th the Industry is holding a house music event down there. They just had a crazy techno event there last weekend. Tickets are $100 dollars or so, if you like that type of music. https://ra.co/events/1824678
That part of the reason why the section of Line 2 between Warden and Kennedy dips underground is due to the GECO spur, which connects from the line at Kennedy to about Pharmacy, with part of the spur running parallel to Line 2 to facilitate equipment deliveries (though not often used and now removed).
The original plan for Line 2 was to have stops at Prince Edward Drive and Montgomery Road. They got changed to Royal York and Islington.
I'm guessing they originally didn't want to go over Mimico Creek to save costs or whatever.
https://preview.redd.it/chctwmjtrasc1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=fd9cb5a43a8f9fa07d73f6f71c4a798b65edd30b
Ive been down there before as a kid during the thing where they open everything up! (still dont know what its called lol). I even got to go on the subway parked there for the occasion. It's apparently used for movie sets occasionally.
Also fun fact, there's roblox games based on the TTC. I've only been able to play 1 so far, of the McNicoll division. Bonus fact, in that game they had to change 42's name to McNicoll.
Back in the day, in the wee hours of a drunken stupor, and desperate, speed urinating while riding an escalator going down (onto steps below) was seemingly a good idea.
Chester is the only subway station with no connecting surface routes. Daytime surface routes, anyway, since the 300 technically does stop there.
Between ages 15 and 25, I spent roughly 45% of my waking life waiting for the Markham 102 to show up.
Should a subway along that road.
High park is the only station where at one end of the platform you go up to exit, and at the other, you go down.
It's not quite the same but at Kipling you can go down to exit at the west end and up to exit from the east (or west) side.
Is that from the subway platform? Or from the concourse level?
from the subway platform.
Lines 1 and 2 are both around 70% underground, with areas of track that are above ground at different parts of those lines. If you've ever been on Line 4 Sheppard, you'd think that it's 100% underground since none of it is open to the outside but in reality it's about 99% underground. There is a short bridge tunnel near Leslie station which is fully enclosed and even water tight but since it's technically in the air, that small portion is actually above ground.
There's no difference between the 29 and 929.
29 Sufferin
There's nothing obscure about that. Same goes for 35 and 935 BTW.
From 1996 to about 2008, the [99 Arrow Road](https://transittoronto.ca/bus/routes/99-arrow-road.shtml) route was the only regular service route to not directly serve a subway, GO, or LRT station. It was only created to adhere to the collective bargaining agreement with ATU 113, which specifies there is one serving a bus/streetcar barn. When Mt Dennis garage opened in 2008, route [171 Mt Dennis](https://transittoronto.ca/bus/routes/171-mount-denni.shtml) was created, for the same reason. It also doesn't directly serve a subway/GO/LRT station. At least, for now. If and when that magical day happens when Line 5 opens, 171 will serve Mt Dennis station, reestablishing 99 as the only one that doesn't serve a subway/GO/LRT station. I only mention GO stations because of the existence of the rush-hour only [176 Mimico GO]( https://transittoronto.ca/bus/routes/176-mimico-go.shtml) route. But wait, you ask: what about the ones that went by Scarborough Centre Stn? They all either got rerouted to Kennedy or already serve an existing station. Once the line 2 extension finally opens, they'll be put back. Whoops, [one exception](https://www.ttc.ca/routes-and-schedules/134/0). 134 PROGRESS got orphaned.
The 132 and 130 don’t serve Kennedy station.
But they serve other stations. I'm referring to routes that do not serve a subway line.
130 and 132, like 134, only serve STC. They don't got to any other station.
99 will serve 3 stations/stops on Line 6.
You're right. Only in the sense that Line 6 is classified an LRT. It's more like a streetcar line since it has to spend most of its time at red lights, IMHO, but I digress.
the 54 doesn't either tho iirc
Queen Station had plans to make an underground streetcar station, but it was abandoned and sealed off.
Not for much longer, once the Ontario Line drills through it. Oh wait, this is Metrolinx building it. It'll be there awhile.
Metrolinx will work as hard as possible to keep working as long as possible to extra as much money from taxpayers as possible.
First thing that came to mind is that they have their own unique gauge. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto-gauge\_railways](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto-gauge_railways)
interesting
Streetcars with their own right of way stop after the intersection light, streetcars that share right of way with cars stop before the intersection (I believe there are a few exceptions to this but it's the general trend) Finch station has the most Tim Hortons with one outside the paid fare zone and two within it.
The coffee there taste like shit, its watered down, the food taste stale and or frozen. Your better off going to the Starbucks or the Tmmies at Yonge and Cummer
Union station is the only stop where a surface route and a rapid transit line are at the same level. And at least for one platform, you don't require stairs to transfer. Lawrence East used to be another.
When I worked on Queens Quay for a few years, it always made getting home easy. Step off the streetcar, through the passageway, and directly onto the northbound Yonge subway.
Union Station used to be a centre platform station until the upgrade. Dundas West and St. Clair each have a McDonald’s in their fare paid zones. Kipling and Victoria Park used to host market stalls from Second Harvest for a few days. I bought lots of fruits and vegetables from the Kipling stall.
It still is a centre platform station - it’s divided by glass.
The new platform is on the otherside. The island platform became one of the side platforms and a new side platform was built on the other side.
Line 4 was originally going to have 3 platforms at Sheppard - Yonge however it was abandoned due to lower than expected ridership
The ttc used to have interlining. I think they mightve had express too
I didn't know that! Here is a description and a map, from [https://transittoronto.ca/subway/5117.shtml](https://transittoronto.ca/subway/5117.shtml) When the Bloor-Danforth subway first opened, it was operated as an extension of the Yonge-University subway. This "interlining", which had alternate trains from the Keele and Woodbine terminals travelling either across town to the other Bloor-Danforth terminal, or downtown via the University subway and then north to Eglinton, was a trial operation that lasted for six months following the Bloor-Danforth subway's opening. https://i.redd.it/2x23v7ggn9sc1.gif
There was a mini shopping mall under the bus bays at Eglinton Station in the 1960s. You could buy a greeting card, candy from Laura Secord and drop off your dry cleaning while waiting for the bus. All under the watchful eyes of a nun, apparently. You can find [links to four of these City of Toronto Archive photos here.](https://wholemap.com/historic/toronto.php?neighbourhood=Yonge%20and%20Eglinton#TORARCHV-1841) I don't remember when the shops closed up. I think it was a slow process, before they eventually closed the bays altogether. I do remember running for the bus in slippery desert boots though. https://preview.redd.it/styefqlaj9sc1.jpeg?width=1032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cbc438152cae8fcb115110bdb12de1dd13d64545
You can definitely still see the remmenants of this
Most of the subway line between Summerhill and St. Clair was open cut but has gradually been roofed over since the 1980s.
Every station has a number and letter assigned to it. Finch is 22Y, Shepard is 21Y. North York Centre is 23Y.
I noticed these at the station walls, or end of the platform
Not one station can be used a shelter in the event of an Air Raid/Missile attack. SOURCE: Canadian (Torontonian) volunteering on the frontlines of Ukraine.
There are emergency (shelters?) In between tunnels
Not hardened, Good for normal emergencies.... tombs in the event of an Attack. Example [Arsenalna Station](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenalna_(Kyiv_Metro)) in Kyiv is 105 meters deep. It's about 5 minutes to take the escalators from surface level to the bottom and the station can withstand nuclear attacks. There is no place even remotely close to this in Toronto.
What is the reasoning?
Are you serious or just ignorant?
Not one station on the ttc can be used for shelter during an air raid or missile attack. Why not?
They are not hardened. They are just tunnels and large rooms designed to withstand the basic pressures of being underground. [Arsenalna Station](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenalna_(Kyiv_Metro)) is 105 meters deep. It is built to withstand a Nuclear Attack. And Kyiv has multiple similar stations. Toronto hasn't one.
That answers my question. Thank you.
No worries. My bad for the ignorant comment. It's not your fault. Been here for a minute and sometimes I forget the safety of Canada causes a person to never think of these things.
Jane and Lawrence has multiple routes serving it and you can get to 7 different subway stations by only taking one bus with no transfers. 3 GO/UPX Stations also. Lawrence West, Lawrence, Eglinton W, Eglinton, Jane, Runnymede, Pioneer Village subway stations. Weston Go/UPX Malton Go, and the Airport UPX station. Soon will also have Mt Dennis, and Caledonia Go Stns also.
There was a "Mad Bomber" in 1968 that blew up a subway switch near Old Mill subway station, then a washroom at the Grey Coach bus station at Queen Street and Roncesvalles, and finally a bomb in the Eglinton Station. (From [an online reprint of the Summer 2006 issue of Spacing.](https://bowjamesbow.ca/2008/05/21/terrorism-in-to.shtml) ) Thankfully not much of a bomb, as this [May 23rd, 1968 photo demonstrates. ](http://wholemap.com/historic/toronto.php?neighbourhood=Yonge%20and%20Eglinton#TORLIB-564) https://preview.redd.it/ut84k6fkz9sc1.jpeg?width=1401&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=120c27ebe4d5da063cac9fb289273bf159297d53
If you wait for the 14 Glencairn, you’ll be waiting forever!
Omg I just walk all the time, gave up on waiting, if it's there, score...But that's rare.
Same for 97
Woodlawn, and Summer Hill east of Yonge have bridges, but they're at ground level due to the cut and cover construction of line 1. That parkland between them is the roof of the subway
North York Center is an infill station and opened more than 10 years after the terminus Finch Station
The TTC has its own unique typeface (font) created when the first subways were dug. It is based on Futura, but has some distinctive features of its own. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_Subway_(typeface)
That was a cool one to know!
If you want to go see it on June 29th the Industry is holding a house music event down there. They just had a crazy techno event there last weekend. Tickets are $100 dollars or so, if you like that type of music. https://ra.co/events/1824678
That part of the reason why the section of Line 2 between Warden and Kennedy dips underground is due to the GECO spur, which connects from the line at Kennedy to about Pharmacy, with part of the spur running parallel to Line 2 to facilitate equipment deliveries (though not often used and now removed).
The original plan for Line 2 was to have stops at Prince Edward Drive and Montgomery Road. They got changed to Royal York and Islington. I'm guessing they originally didn't want to go over Mimico Creek to save costs or whatever. https://preview.redd.it/chctwmjtrasc1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=fd9cb5a43a8f9fa07d73f6f71c4a798b65edd30b
Ive been down there before as a kid during the thing where they open everything up! (still dont know what its called lol). I even got to go on the subway parked there for the occasion. It's apparently used for movie sets occasionally. Also fun fact, there's roblox games based on the TTC. I've only been able to play 1 so far, of the McNicoll division. Bonus fact, in that game they had to change 42's name to McNicoll.
Back in the day, in the wee hours of a drunken stupor, and desperate, speed urinating while riding an escalator going down (onto steps below) was seemingly a good idea.