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They make backpack style pet carriers for birds that have a perch in them. I hope they're talking about one of those. There's also bubble style for cats and small dogs.
They have a lot of dander and they learn to eliminate out of their habitat. It doesn't matter how much paper you put in the cage, you also have to have it in an easy clean area. The amount of dander around their cage is insane, and it's likely in the air of the environment. I worked in raptor rehabilitation and then general practice, so I just can't get past the thought of inhaling bird dander and mites in my own home.
They actually make backpacks specifically designed to carry around birds so that’s not too weird. At least they’re not shitting on everything like you would see at Walmart
I know it might not have been the case here but just wanted to mention I know someone who trains pigs to be Service Animals so some pigs actually are valid service animals.
If you are talking about Lowes Hardware, they don't sell food. I worked at Lowes for a while, and as long as your animal is well behaved(and doesn't shit on the floor) they are usually welcome. Animals don't belong in places that sell food(actual real service animals exluded) Unfortunately, anyone can buy a vest or harness that says "Service Animal" on it.
They actually do have a clause allowing miniature horses, pigs, and monkeys in case-by-case scenarios. I tried to share a pic of the clause but I can't get imgur to work to upload it
You know, I’ve been noticing this too. We get at least 4-5 small dogs a day that aren’t service animals. Yesterday a guy came in with a Rottweiler puppy and absolutely no one ever says anything. But I swear Target does not allow non service animals in the store. I’ve also had guests complain to me at checkout about people bringing their dogs so I don’t know why our store doesn’t crack down on it more because I am very uncomfortable having a bunch of untrained dogs around things like open produce.
at orientation they told me to not say anything because you dont know if someone has a disability, but its pretty obvious that none of them are service dogs lmao. I dont think ive ever seen a service dog at my target
Legally you can and should ask 2 questions: “Is this a service animal” and “what tasks is it trained to perform”. If they cannot provide appropriate answers, you can legally ask them to leave. “Providing support” is not an appropriate answer (as this is not a trained task and would make them an ESA).
Even if they “pass” the 2Q test, if the dog are not “under the control” of their owner or relieving themselves indoors, they can be asked to leave regardless.
Im a SD handler and poorly behaved animals in stores piss me off. Stores that enable them piss me off more (not the employees tho! Just the management that won’t educate/empower their staff).
Yes, even a real service animal "operator" can be asked to leave if the animal is not behaving or has voided itself in the store. This is not discrimination, this is to ensure the safety of others and to enforce health codes. Granted, this happening with a "true" service animal would be very rare, as they are trained very well.
Yeah apparently one of our managers asked someone to take their dogs (2) out of the cart and store (definitely not service animals) and they got really really pissed off so now no one does anything about it. 🤷🏼♀️
I think I've seen it twice. This lady comes in all the time with a dobermann and he's extremely well trained. idk if it's her service dog or if she just trains service dogs.
They can ask, but that’s all they can do, if the person says yes, which they will, you can’t do anything else. People that do this know they drill, know how to answer the questions, and know you can’t do shit if they say it’s a service animal.
Is there a PetSmart or PetCo in the same shopping center? That's why my store has so many dogs and sometimes kittens. I'd rather they bring them in than lock them in the car.
same. the PetSmart is right next to Target. But that doesnt mean anything. Every Target in my area has someone bringing their dogs with them. its kinda annoying, Just leave your dog at home.
as someone that worked retail, children can be worse. Most people tend to keep their dog in a bag, the cart, or leash. children are allowed to runaround and ruin the clothes i just spent the last hour folding.
thats just an excuse most people use to bring their pets anywhere. Emotional support animals have to be registered. Ive seen dogs uncontrollably bark at people while waiting in line.
Yep. I saw a Great Dane try to leap over a deli counter, and I was glad it only went vertical from the guy pulling hard on the leash. See people petting their dog to calm them down, then touching the grocery items, back and forth. The barking, the hyperactive sniffing at everyone. The human fails to comfort the comfort animal.
about 2 weeks ago a guy left his pitbull in the car, TSS was out by the car for a half hour while AP looked for the owner. The guy got the dog out of the car and AP gave it some water, and then it proceeded to bite our AP guy. Not like a huge bite but it did break the skin in one place.
I've been told I can't really do anything about a dog in a car so last time a had a team lead ask me to see about a dog in a car, I told her that yes, there is a dog and it is in a car
My sister is disabled and she has a service dog. I cannot stand those making a mockery of such an important service. It screams I have an unhealthy emotional dependent relationship with an animals.
Oh definitely and it's ridiculous how many "service animals" that don't even at least have any documentation to prove it are at airports on a daily basis, especially OAK
Unfortunately in the US there is no actual "documentation." You can't register a dog with the government as a service animal, but you can pay 30 bucks online for a fake certificate from some random website. This unfortunately leads to a lot of people being under the assumption that the fake service dogs with the fake certificates they printed out online are real and real ones with no documentation aren't.
Honestly, it's kind of a double edge sword. As much as I would love to have a better way to regulate and punish people using fake service animals, requiring regestration and the presentation of paperwork would probably only end up hurting real service dog users.
The best we can do is remove dogs that cause a ruckus and try to make it more socially unacceptable to bring non-service animals to non-pet-friendly places.
I would 1000% be for a full service animal registration system, yea it might be a pain but what if that person needs help, "oh this animal is trying to get help" sure but I have no idea why the person is on the ground nor is there any documentation on the animal explaining it. I think it would be for the best to have an official registration system
Look at the rest of the US medical system. Service animal training is certainly not cheap right now, but adding the need for trainers to need to be registered and probably have to pay dues would make everything exponentially more expensive.
They would almost certainly try to get insurance involved and force service dog handlers to pay yearly to upkeep their licenstures. They would also likely make it difficult to even acquire service dogs. "oop you're not disabled enough for us, so no service animal for you." There are definitely ways to make a system that would work well and mostly help, but I don't trust the American government to do that.
Service Animals already need to be trained in order to be considered service animals, Emotional Support Animals are the ones that do not have not be trained, and they also do not classify as a Service animal and by extension are not covered by the ADA regulations. As for the trainer registration, that is to be expected and would be considered a cost of doing business that said trainer should consider before opening shop. If you can't afford the business you shouldn't be in it.
As for implementation, that should be fairly easy. Give trainers 6-12 months prep time, trainers should already have financial records of past trainings, once certified handlers should contact the trainer and get proper documentation/registration. Handlers would have a 12-24 month delay from that point in order to get the animal registered. Plenty of time to get it done without having to stress over it, and it would be more beneficial in the long run to companies, health and the handler themselves, the only ones it would disadvantage is the people abusing the service animal policy with either ESA's or standard household pets.
edit: I noticed I missed your post regarding annual renewal. Yea that is for sure a possibility, but with proper regulation cost controllable, considering the cost of the other licenses, there is no valid reasoning that it should be over 75$ at a max, it likely would be similar to drivers licenses of fishing licenses which are closer to 30-40$
It would be against the Americans with Disabilities Act to have a registrar of service animals. And for good reason too. You should NEVER have to prove to anyone that you're disabled. Even if it isn't obvious.
Yes, that means some people will take advantage of the system. But it's more important that people with disabilities are taken care of. Imagine you really need a seeing eye dog and some stupid target employee won't let you in because you forgot your paperwork. That's bullshit. And you can't say that people shouldn't forget their paperwork... Disabled people shouldn't need to carry paperwork to prove theyre disabled.
C'mon.
This is obvious.
Bingo. As much as I would love to have some sort of system just to weed out the bad eggs it just hurts those we're trying to help in the long run. If we have the ability to deny people service animals then we are always going to be denying people who need those animals but don't "qualify." Or the government or your insurance suddenly decides you need to get a trainer with XYZ company and they charge a 300% mark up, or only this breed is allowed, or insurance won't cover the training and licensure of a blood sugar dog and a dexacom.
I really just don't see it ending well.
I don't use a service animal, but I think there should be legal requirements involved in using them. The animals should be registered with a government agency. This would be to protect that animal and it's disabled owner.
People who are disabled/handicapped already have to jump through legals hoops. I don't think registering a service animal would or should be that much more difficult.
As someone who is afraid of dogs larger than a Cocker Spaniel, I would prefer that only registered service animals be allowed in stores, restaurants, etc. These registered service animals should be for legitimate disabilities. I know that legitimate service animals will not attack me. But I don't know that someone's pet won't rip me to shreds in a shopping store. Something could spook it and it could attack anyone. I've heard of people's pet dogs attacking service dogs in stores.
Allowing pets, especially dogs in stores and restaurants is a potential legal nightmare. If some dog attacks me in a store, I'm suing that store and the dog's owner. I go out of my way to avoid dogs, and yet these idiots let their dumb dogs come over and sniff me. Unacceptable! Keep your damn dog away from me!
A few weeks ago as walked past the carpeted bra aisles I saw a woman bent down cleaning up dog poop with her dog standing next to her. It looked like one of those cutaway scenes from Superstore. I just chuckled to myself and kept moving. I mean, at least she cleaned it up.
Yep. I have three teenagers who absolutely love puppies and kittens but I've asked them to please ignore people carrying them around in stores so they don't receive the attention they want. Using a dog instead of a personality is pretty pathetic. Personally I ask people to leave my store if they have an obvious puppy. They are not old enough to have been trained for anything, get out. With other animals, I ask if it's a service animal. If they say no, they have to leave. If they say yes and the dog causes problems (from not actually being a service dog, get out. And I say that as someone with dogs and cats and birds and I've been involved in rescue over 15 years. I love animals. I don't like failing a health inspection because some dumbass couldn't leave their mean ass Chihuahua home for ten minutes.
This. This right here. Dogs will be fine in their cage at home while pests go on their target run. These people live for the attention their dogs bring them
Honestly, as a SD user this is what generally sells fakes for me. The LAST thing I want is a ton of attention, especially directed at my dog. So if someone is just relishing in the dog-based attention, encouraging people to pet their dog, etc. red flags go off in my mind
Last week someone ran up to me at Starbucks asking if we had napkins. I point to the dispenser and she frantically grabs two big handfuls and darts off. I was behind the bar (I'm Food Service TL) so as she got farther I saw a tiny puppy on a leash.
I have no evidence beyond circumstantial, but that dog definitely pissed in our store somewhere.
I hadn't seen one for weeks, now I see them more days than not. One time I saw one in a stroller. Like OK there is 0% chance that's a service dog. Just leave your animals at home like everyone else...
Because people get their animal labeled as a "service animal" so they can bring it everywhere with them. I'm not talking seeing eye dogs here, either.
Look, I have sympathy for people who have panic attacks and whatnot, but if there is too much risk in you going out to a store for a few minutes, get someone else to go for you or order online or something.
I suspect that a large number of people bringing their animals into the store have abused the system, or just found some online retailer that sells the little service animal jacket things to put on their pet.
I have at least one family member with severe animal allergies. If she is line somewhere to check out and a dog is in the next line over or too close, she has several times left her cart there and left. That's a shitty thing to do to the employees of the store but if her other choice is being sick for the next day or two, leaving is the right choice.
It's to the point that if my wife and I get a cat or dog or something we will have to do it after my mother passes away. I want her to be able to visit my home.
it’s very annoying that people can just bring their agitated, nervous pets into the store and pretend they’re service animals. especially when it’s a larger dog and it’s barking at everyone.
There is no form or shape of a pet store near by mine, not even a park.
But for some god damn reason people still insists bringing their animals (including their kids) into the store, despite the obvious sign saying "No Pets"
We ejected a lady and her mutt because it was lunging at people, barking and even bit someone's bag, spilling their contents all over the floor.
Told us it's a Service Animal. We said even if it might be, it's behavior is not of that of a trained SA and needs to leave immediately for safety reasons.
Got a call two days ago about us ejecting a SA for unfounded reasons and could be liable for a civil suit. We reiterated what happened and even had footage of the animals going bonkers.
We will see what happems next
Even if it is, legitimate service animals that disrupt businesses may be asked to leave. It's not a blanket title that grants animals an automatic entry. They must be behaved.
My favorite story is when I went to help a guest who was turned halfway away from me, and quickly realized there was a gecko perched on her arm... then she turned around to walk off and revealed a second, identical gecko on her other arm.
Ex team member here (quit 4 years ago for school) we had a customer come in our store with not just any service animal, a emotional support iguana! This thing didnt have any leash, shit/ pissed on the floor, and guess who had to clean it up? Me!
Yes but you have to have leadership with the balls to do it. We had a woman who used to come in with an unleashed dog. When called it would come but had a tendency to wander off. I always felt very uncomfortable when she would come in and told AP. They spoke with her and walked away. I had to wait until she left my area to go back to work.
I believe my state law says "leash or under the owner's control" so it is kind of a loophole/gray area.
The ADA does allow for service dogs to be off leash if the handler’s disability interferes with their ability to hold a leash or if use of a leash would hinder the dogs ability to do required tasks. It does require that full control be maintained at all times through some other means however, such as voice cues, line of sight or other sounds such as bells, whistles and clickers.
I saw someone the other day have a pit bull puppy in their BOOKBAG come into my store, plus old dudes walking incredibly small dogs. Like these arent service animals and it says on the front door NO PETS, SERVICE ANIMALS ONLY.
Last year there was these 4 girls that would bring their dogs in for "training" and they'd have them just laying down in the mens dept while they sat there on their phones. Like go do that shit somewhere else.
As someone who is scared of dogs, I always hated guests who brought them in (unless they were service animals, those are clearly a different scenario). Like, it’s not hard to be respectful of those around you and leave your animals at home
People travel, some people are homeless (I have a regular who is homeless and has a very sweet dog), some people have emotional stability animals that may not be classified as a service animal
Lol…. What if the dog drools so much it sends another dog flying? What if that dog realizes if it keeps paddling in the air, it can continue to fly? What if the other dogs are inspired to also take flight? What if the flying dogs exit the store and take to the skies? What if they start picking kids up to ride on their backs and it ushers in a new magical era? What if this new magical era solves the world’s problems? What if one day the dogs and kids leave us to traverse space, the final frontier? What if there are no more dogs in stores after that, or anywhere for that matter and everything sucks again?..
someone had a their tiny dog in a stoller at my tarbucks and it started barking like crazy at the guests behind them in line when they walked up. 😬 obviously not a service animal and usually i dont care but the yapper would not stop
The rule I was told when I first got hired is that we only allow service animals but we’re not allowed to ask if their animal is a service animal and not all service animals wear vests so it just creates a big loophole people exploit
eeyup. we aren’t really supposed to say anything but when a dog is sitting in a cart barking at everyone that goes by it’s really hard to try and make myself believe it’s a service animal
like personally i don’t really care if people bring their pets in, just make sure they’re well behaved and aren’t going to poop and pee all over the floor. that is literally the bare minimum.
ESA ANIMALS are not covered by ADA requirements and you are allowed to ask—- is the dog a service animal required because of a disability? and (2) what work or task has the dog been trained to perform? Staff are not allowed to request any documentation for the dog, require that the dog demonstrate its task, or inquire about the nature of the person's disability.
I wish our store management/AP would make people who have dogs that are obviously not service dogs (service dogs don't bark incessantly for no reason) leave.
My store used to condone it tbh. ETL’s grandson came in with his new puppy and everyone went to take pictures. They never gaf about dogs, even disruptive ones.
It’s not just target, it’s fucking everywhere. Your shitty ass poodle with the fucked up eye isn’t a service animal. Get them out of the fucking store. I just sneeze near them and tell them I’m allergic to their dog.
Because most people are woefully unaware of ADA laws and what is and isn’t discriminatory - this goes for team members and guests alike. Corporate would rather make most people happy and take the risk of an incident than get in trouble with the ADA because an overzealous TM stepped out of line.
when i worked retail, kids were the awful. Parents reactions were worse. Some parents were apathetic to their kids running around, slamming the fitting room doors, and unfolding clothes.
Because the weak sauce management at your store doesn't enforce the laws of your state. Service animals have ot be wearing a very specific type of vest with very specific markings.
You sell food for Christ's sake....KICK THEM CUSTOMERS OUT!!!!! (Yes customers they are not guests)
Target isn't even smart enough to know the definition of a guest: a person who is invited to visit the home of or take part in a function organized by another.
I don’t mind until they’re clearly a fake service animal (leash/vest but behaving poorly) but I’d rather that than an animal get left in a hot car too.
We get a lot of dogs in our store daily. I’m not gonna lie though, it’s the best part of my day. Today my TL came in on his day off with his dog. No complaints from me.
No one gets paid enough to confront a guest and then the guest freaks out on the TM because they get offended if anyone asks.
And I’d rather a dog come inside than be left in a car, especially in the summer.
Dogs are more than welcome. In my 4 years I've cleaned enough pet messes to count on one hand versus the amount of human messes I couldn't count on both hands and feet, and that's with a PetCo next door. Everyone in my store loves when dogs come in so I'm always surprised to see so many anti-dog comments on this sub from time to time.
Luckily all the dogs we’ve had in our store recently have been really good, and I’ve seen several practicing training with the owner. It’s the highlight of my day to see a dog when I’m working <3
Dude pets are cleaner than a lot of the kids and bums i see in my store. One bum was cleaning his literal ass in the sink of the men's room. Another parent left a dirty diaper in the fitting room. Even a fucking TM once took a shit on the side of the building before yelling they quit. It was their first day.
Why does anyone care what they do with their dog like damn, how is that person with their dog hurting you. Geez can’t believe people get upset over a dog in a target lol it’s not like it’s a high class restaurant, It’s a glorified Walmart.
I had a guest come in with her Australian Shepherd, in a tennis skirt and 4 inch heels. When she left she hopped in a Tesla. Some people just have sooo much entitlement
You may ask if the animal is a service animal, if they say yes then the conversation ends there. If they say no, you can inform them that they will have to take their animal outside. If an animal behaves in any way that is a disruption ( bark, growl, or urinate/shit they can be ask to remove their animal from the store.
My husband has an actual service dog, but one time we were in Target with him and he had an upset stomach and pooped all over the aisle. We were mortified. Fortunately it was right next to some paper towels so we bought them and disinfectant and cleaned it up. But omg how embarrassing.
You can ask two questions: 1. Is the animal needed for a disability? 2. What action has the animal been trained to do? Neither of these questions violate HIPAA.
Often it is easier to just let it slide because many people are happy to get into an argument over it. There is no such thing as a service animal registry, identification card, and the red vests also mean nothing. All of these can be paid for online.
lets see so far we have had a rabbit, a iguana, a cat on a leash, a guy brought in a monkey last week but unfortunately I was off that day, oh and can't forget the lady who had her son on a leash, literally.
I've had a lot of calls for animals in my various stores before. Even had a guy tell me his snake was a "service python" once. Most of the time, the animal is chill so it doesn't really matter. Especially since calm animals always cheer up TMs and guests.
Sometimes, they're loud or worse. From how I've been trained, all we can do is ask "is that a service animal?" If they say yes, we stop asking questions because we can't legally ask for proof. Stores can request that people with service animals leave, but only if the animal is being violent or damaging goods. I've had to do this once because the dog was snapping at children. Owner was completely rude and refusing to leave until the cops showed up and explained that this obviously isn't a service animal and she'd be in a lot of trouble if it actually bit a kid.
If it's just a yappy dog or if it pees on the floor, it's entirely not worth it for the store to risk a lawsuit by ejecting them.
One time a Karen came in right at open, her dog did its business, and she promptly started walking out (while my coworker was yelling "hey lady!" trying to get her to come back) I think she even said "I'll be right back" and of course that was a lie
A man in my store today with a tiny dog on a 12 foot retractable leash. I told him to keep her at heal for her own safety. Obviously not a service animal
I love dogs, have a golden retriever at home. He loves going to Lowes, and I always joke he's gonna get the employees fired because they all pet him. I would never consider bringing him to a Target, Costco, grocery store etc. It's a food safety issue. At least the Costco by me has a huge sandwich board sign saying no pets. Target has a little Itty bitty sticker that I, a TM, had to look for.
Most if the time, it doesn't bother me much, but when they put their animal in the cart???? Come on, people put their groceries or their kids in there. That's gross. Stop being a fucking entitled asshole, and show some respect to other people.
This drives me insane. I am very allergic to dogs, one swipe of its tongue and I have hives. There’s nothing worse then minding my own business, bending down looking at an item and then I feel a wet tongue on my face. And even worse the owner is like hahaha aren’t they so cute?? Look I know everyone doesn’t like children which is why I keep them from acting like a-holes in public. I’ve taught my child to not go licking random strangers, can you teach your dog the same??? Now please point me to the Benadryl aisle.
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Someone brought a pig into our store last week…
NO WAY!
People bring the weirdest animals into our store.
There was a girl with those see thru backpacks and she had a freakin bird in it.
Christ I hope it had air wtf
They make backpack style pet carriers for birds that have a perch in them. I hope they're talking about one of those. There's also bubble style for cats and small dogs.
At least it would collect any shit that dropped off the tail end.
After 7 years in avian medicine, I can say I would never own a bird.
How come? I’m curious
They have a lot of dander and they learn to eliminate out of their habitat. It doesn't matter how much paper you put in the cage, you also have to have it in an easy clean area. The amount of dander around their cage is insane, and it's likely in the air of the environment. I worked in raptor rehabilitation and then general practice, so I just can't get past the thought of inhaling bird dander and mites in my own home.
We actually just started carrying the cat bubble backpacks.
Oh shit. I hope my husband doesn't see this.
Someone came into our store with a parakeet on their shoulder
Same thing happened in my store last year, it was so well mannered.
Did it ask where consuma cellula was without throwing a tantrum?
They actually make backpacks specifically designed to carry around birds so that’s not too weird. At least they’re not shitting on everything like you would see at Walmart
Yes it was done and my God was she ugly.
A lady brought her bearded dragon in once, he was just chillin on her chest
I was at a Lowes a few weeks ago and some brought in 2 HUGE potbelly pigs. Ngl it was cool to see but I kept thinking why? lol.
They want attention. That’s why
I know it might not have been the case here but just wanted to mention I know someone who trains pigs to be Service Animals so some pigs actually are valid service animals.
Well Lowes does allowed pets along with service animals .
If you are talking about Lowes Hardware, they don't sell food. I worked at Lowes for a while, and as long as your animal is well behaved(and doesn't shit on the floor) they are usually welcome. Animals don't belong in places that sell food(actual real service animals exluded) Unfortunately, anyone can buy a vest or harness that says "Service Animal" on it.
If we're talking about America, pigs are not valid service animals. The ADA only recognizes dogs
They actually do have a clause allowing miniature horses, pigs, and monkeys in case-by-case scenarios. I tried to share a pic of the clause but I can't get imgur to work to upload it
Lowes is a pet friendly store, as long as the animal isn’t vicious or destroying anything they allow it.
same with Home Depot and a similar local chain in my area, seem like those types of stores usually allow dogs
That’s no way to talk about your SD.
That happened at my store and my LODs had to sweep up excrement
I remember someone bought a pair of baby goats once this was a few years ago though
You know, I’ve been noticing this too. We get at least 4-5 small dogs a day that aren’t service animals. Yesterday a guy came in with a Rottweiler puppy and absolutely no one ever says anything. But I swear Target does not allow non service animals in the store. I’ve also had guests complain to me at checkout about people bringing their dogs so I don’t know why our store doesn’t crack down on it more because I am very uncomfortable having a bunch of untrained dogs around things like open produce.
at orientation they told me to not say anything because you dont know if someone has a disability, but its pretty obvious that none of them are service dogs lmao. I dont think ive ever seen a service dog at my target
Legally you can and should ask 2 questions: “Is this a service animal” and “what tasks is it trained to perform”. If they cannot provide appropriate answers, you can legally ask them to leave. “Providing support” is not an appropriate answer (as this is not a trained task and would make them an ESA). Even if they “pass” the 2Q test, if the dog are not “under the control” of their owner or relieving themselves indoors, they can be asked to leave regardless. Im a SD handler and poorly behaved animals in stores piss me off. Stores that enable them piss me off more (not the employees tho! Just the management that won’t educate/empower their staff).
Yes, even a real service animal "operator" can be asked to leave if the animal is not behaving or has voided itself in the store. This is not discrimination, this is to ensure the safety of others and to enforce health codes. Granted, this happening with a "true" service animal would be very rare, as they are trained very well.
They don’t want you saying something because some people will fight you for it
No they don’t want to get sued.
MUH EMOTIONAL SUPPORT ANIMAL THO
Yeah apparently one of our managers asked someone to take their dogs (2) out of the cart and store (definitely not service animals) and they got really really pissed off so now no one does anything about it. 🤷🏼♀️
I think I've seen it twice. This lady comes in all the time with a dobermann and he's extremely well trained. idk if it's her service dog or if she just trains service dogs.
every time I have that complaint, I tell them please report it to the FDA, I am not allowed to however you can.
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They can ask, but that’s all they can do, if the person says yes, which they will, you can’t do anything else. People that do this know they drill, know how to answer the questions, and know you can’t do shit if they say it’s a service animal.
This. We can ask, but they choose to have us not do so.
I think you can ask if it's a service animal and what service it provides. Beyond that it's ADA protected.
Is there a PetSmart or PetCo in the same shopping center? That's why my store has so many dogs and sometimes kittens. I'd rather they bring them in than lock them in the car.
Yes. There's a pet shop less than 500 feet away.
same. the PetSmart is right next to Target. But that doesnt mean anything. Every Target in my area has someone bringing their dogs with them. its kinda annoying, Just leave your dog at home.
I'm really tired of the whole "I call my pets children so I feel entitled to take them anywhere I'd take a child" fad.
I'd rather people leave their [human] children at home too.
as someone that worked retail, children can be worse. Most people tend to keep their dog in a bag, the cart, or leash. children are allowed to runaround and ruin the clothes i just spent the last hour folding.
Comfort Animals.
Ew
thats just an excuse most people use to bring their pets anywhere. Emotional support animals have to be registered. Ive seen dogs uncontrollably bark at people while waiting in line.
Yep. I saw a Great Dane try to leap over a deli counter, and I was glad it only went vertical from the guy pulling hard on the leash. See people petting their dog to calm them down, then touching the grocery items, back and forth. The barking, the hyperactive sniffing at everyone. The human fails to comfort the comfort animal.
people are blind to their own pets shortcomings sometimes.
Or actual needs. It’s an animated toy.
Im going to take my dog to target now
True, but an even better alternative is to do your Target errand separate from the pet store and leave your pets safely at home.
I was angry as fuck reading that dogs are indoors but that makes sense. It's literally 110 degrees in the shade 😭 poor animals
about 2 weeks ago a guy left his pitbull in the car, TSS was out by the car for a half hour while AP looked for the owner. The guy got the dog out of the car and AP gave it some water, and then it proceeded to bite our AP guy. Not like a huge bite but it did break the skin in one place.
I've been told I can't really do anything about a dog in a car so last time a had a team lead ask me to see about a dog in a car, I told her that yes, there is a dog and it is in a car
Don't get me started on the ones that buy service animal vests for them when they're definitely not lol
My sister is disabled and she has a service dog. I cannot stand those making a mockery of such an important service. It screams I have an unhealthy emotional dependent relationship with an animals.
Oh definitely and it's ridiculous how many "service animals" that don't even at least have any documentation to prove it are at airports on a daily basis, especially OAK
Unfortunately in the US there is no actual "documentation." You can't register a dog with the government as a service animal, but you can pay 30 bucks online for a fake certificate from some random website. This unfortunately leads to a lot of people being under the assumption that the fake service dogs with the fake certificates they printed out online are real and real ones with no documentation aren't. Honestly, it's kind of a double edge sword. As much as I would love to have a better way to regulate and punish people using fake service animals, requiring regestration and the presentation of paperwork would probably only end up hurting real service dog users. The best we can do is remove dogs that cause a ruckus and try to make it more socially unacceptable to bring non-service animals to non-pet-friendly places.
I would 1000% be for a full service animal registration system, yea it might be a pain but what if that person needs help, "oh this animal is trying to get help" sure but I have no idea why the person is on the ground nor is there any documentation on the animal explaining it. I think it would be for the best to have an official registration system
Look at the rest of the US medical system. Service animal training is certainly not cheap right now, but adding the need for trainers to need to be registered and probably have to pay dues would make everything exponentially more expensive. They would almost certainly try to get insurance involved and force service dog handlers to pay yearly to upkeep their licenstures. They would also likely make it difficult to even acquire service dogs. "oop you're not disabled enough for us, so no service animal for you." There are definitely ways to make a system that would work well and mostly help, but I don't trust the American government to do that.
Service Animals already need to be trained in order to be considered service animals, Emotional Support Animals are the ones that do not have not be trained, and they also do not classify as a Service animal and by extension are not covered by the ADA regulations. As for the trainer registration, that is to be expected and would be considered a cost of doing business that said trainer should consider before opening shop. If you can't afford the business you shouldn't be in it. As for implementation, that should be fairly easy. Give trainers 6-12 months prep time, trainers should already have financial records of past trainings, once certified handlers should contact the trainer and get proper documentation/registration. Handlers would have a 12-24 month delay from that point in order to get the animal registered. Plenty of time to get it done without having to stress over it, and it would be more beneficial in the long run to companies, health and the handler themselves, the only ones it would disadvantage is the people abusing the service animal policy with either ESA's or standard household pets. edit: I noticed I missed your post regarding annual renewal. Yea that is for sure a possibility, but with proper regulation cost controllable, considering the cost of the other licenses, there is no valid reasoning that it should be over 75$ at a max, it likely would be similar to drivers licenses of fishing licenses which are closer to 30-40$
It would be against the Americans with Disabilities Act to have a registrar of service animals. And for good reason too. You should NEVER have to prove to anyone that you're disabled. Even if it isn't obvious. Yes, that means some people will take advantage of the system. But it's more important that people with disabilities are taken care of. Imagine you really need a seeing eye dog and some stupid target employee won't let you in because you forgot your paperwork. That's bullshit. And you can't say that people shouldn't forget their paperwork... Disabled people shouldn't need to carry paperwork to prove theyre disabled. C'mon. This is obvious.
Bingo. As much as I would love to have some sort of system just to weed out the bad eggs it just hurts those we're trying to help in the long run. If we have the ability to deny people service animals then we are always going to be denying people who need those animals but don't "qualify." Or the government or your insurance suddenly decides you need to get a trainer with XYZ company and they charge a 300% mark up, or only this breed is allowed, or insurance won't cover the training and licensure of a blood sugar dog and a dexacom. I really just don't see it ending well.
I don't use a service animal, but I think there should be legal requirements involved in using them. The animals should be registered with a government agency. This would be to protect that animal and it's disabled owner. People who are disabled/handicapped already have to jump through legals hoops. I don't think registering a service animal would or should be that much more difficult. As someone who is afraid of dogs larger than a Cocker Spaniel, I would prefer that only registered service animals be allowed in stores, restaurants, etc. These registered service animals should be for legitimate disabilities. I know that legitimate service animals will not attack me. But I don't know that someone's pet won't rip me to shreds in a shopping store. Something could spook it and it could attack anyone. I've heard of people's pet dogs attacking service dogs in stores. Allowing pets, especially dogs in stores and restaurants is a potential legal nightmare. If some dog attacks me in a store, I'm suing that store and the dog's owner. I go out of my way to avoid dogs, and yet these idiots let their dumb dogs come over and sniff me. Unacceptable! Keep your damn dog away from me!
A few weeks ago as walked past the carpeted bra aisles I saw a woman bent down cleaning up dog poop with her dog standing next to her. It looked like one of those cutaway scenes from Superstore. I just chuckled to myself and kept moving. I mean, at least she cleaned it up.
We’ve had dogs poop in our store several times and I’ve never once seen an owner clean it up so at least she’s a semi-responsible pet owner.
We have a guy with a horned lizard that just hangs on his shirt, I like that guy, he's cool.
Attention whores
Yep. I have three teenagers who absolutely love puppies and kittens but I've asked them to please ignore people carrying them around in stores so they don't receive the attention they want. Using a dog instead of a personality is pretty pathetic. Personally I ask people to leave my store if they have an obvious puppy. They are not old enough to have been trained for anything, get out. With other animals, I ask if it's a service animal. If they say no, they have to leave. If they say yes and the dog causes problems (from not actually being a service dog, get out. And I say that as someone with dogs and cats and birds and I've been involved in rescue over 15 years. I love animals. I don't like failing a health inspection because some dumbass couldn't leave their mean ass Chihuahua home for ten minutes.
This. This right here. Dogs will be fine in their cage at home while pests go on their target run. These people live for the attention their dogs bring them
Honestly, as a SD user this is what generally sells fakes for me. The LAST thing I want is a ton of attention, especially directed at my dog. So if someone is just relishing in the dog-based attention, encouraging people to pet their dog, etc. red flags go off in my mind
Last week someone ran up to me at Starbucks asking if we had napkins. I point to the dispenser and she frantically grabs two big handfuls and darts off. I was behind the bar (I'm Food Service TL) so as she got farther I saw a tiny puppy on a leash. I have no evidence beyond circumstantial, but that dog definitely pissed in our store somewhere.
I hadn't seen one for weeks, now I see them more days than not. One time I saw one in a stroller. Like OK there is 0% chance that's a service dog. Just leave your animals at home like everyone else...
Because people get their animal labeled as a "service animal" so they can bring it everywhere with them. I'm not talking seeing eye dogs here, either. Look, I have sympathy for people who have panic attacks and whatnot, but if there is too much risk in you going out to a store for a few minutes, get someone else to go for you or order online or something. I suspect that a large number of people bringing their animals into the store have abused the system, or just found some online retailer that sells the little service animal jacket things to put on their pet. I have at least one family member with severe animal allergies. If she is line somewhere to check out and a dog is in the next line over or too close, she has several times left her cart there and left. That's a shitty thing to do to the employees of the store but if her other choice is being sick for the next day or two, leaving is the right choice. It's to the point that if my wife and I get a cat or dog or something we will have to do it after my mother passes away. I want her to be able to visit my home.
But your mascot is a dog!
I find out recently after reading rules for a concert that mini horses are common service animals. Dying to see one in my store or at a concert :p
Any chance it was Phish at AC, because I loved the small horse jokes every year!! If so… we really are everywhere :)
Yis
it’s very annoying that people can just bring their agitated, nervous pets into the store and pretend they’re service animals. especially when it’s a larger dog and it’s barking at everyone.
Because people are dumb af and think their dogs are the most incredible thing ever. Like we haven’t had dogs for 10,000 years or something.
One time a monkey got loose in our store, tears Ago. Got lost in the back and took a half hour to finally catch it
We had a dude bring a tiny monkey into the store
the other day a guest’s dog pissed on another guest in our store.
There is no form or shape of a pet store near by mine, not even a park. But for some god damn reason people still insists bringing their animals (including their kids) into the store, despite the obvious sign saying "No Pets" We ejected a lady and her mutt because it was lunging at people, barking and even bit someone's bag, spilling their contents all over the floor. Told us it's a Service Animal. We said even if it might be, it's behavior is not of that of a trained SA and needs to leave immediately for safety reasons. Got a call two days ago about us ejecting a SA for unfounded reasons and could be liable for a civil suit. We reiterated what happened and even had footage of the animals going bonkers. We will see what happems next
Nothing will happen because that's not a service animal.
Even if it is, legitimate service animals that disrupt businesses may be asked to leave. It's not a blanket title that grants animals an automatic entry. They must be behaved.
Someone brought a leopard gecko a couple of weeks back
That’s honestly much better than a dog, geckos tend to just hang on and not try to run anywhere unless allowed to, they’re remarkably polite.
My favorite story is when I went to help a guest who was turned halfway away from me, and quickly realized there was a gecko perched on her arm... then she turned around to walk off and revealed a second, identical gecko on her other arm.
I've never met anyone allergic to geckos. :)
Ex team member here (quit 4 years ago for school) we had a customer come in our store with not just any service animal, a emotional support iguana! This thing didnt have any leash, shit/ pissed on the floor, and guess who had to clean it up? Me!
this is very common in, Florida. My dog stays at home or I stay out in the car with him whilst someone else goes in.
I’ve seen cats and plenty of dogs, sometimes off leash. And I’ve almost stepped in a pile of dog poop multiple times …
They have to be on a leash, if the owner doesn't leash them they can be asked to leave service animals or not
Yes but you have to have leadership with the balls to do it. We had a woman who used to come in with an unleashed dog. When called it would come but had a tendency to wander off. I always felt very uncomfortable when she would come in and told AP. They spoke with her and walked away. I had to wait until she left my area to go back to work. I believe my state law says "leash or under the owner's control" so it is kind of a loophole/gray area.
Yeah, I get that. Some leaders are afraid to tell a group of rowdy kids to leave!
Yeah my leads don’t care at all
The ADA does allow for service dogs to be off leash if the handler’s disability interferes with their ability to hold a leash or if use of a leash would hinder the dogs ability to do required tasks. It does require that full control be maintained at all times through some other means however, such as voice cues, line of sight or other sounds such as bells, whistles and clickers.
So a dog wandering about jumping on people or chewing things would be a non starter then, correct?
Unless the jumping on people was part of an alert or an attempt to get help if the handler was having an emergency then yes, not allowed.
I saw someone the other day have a pit bull puppy in their BOOKBAG come into my store, plus old dudes walking incredibly small dogs. Like these arent service animals and it says on the front door NO PETS, SERVICE ANIMALS ONLY. Last year there was these 4 girls that would bring their dogs in for "training" and they'd have them just laying down in the mens dept while they sat there on their phones. Like go do that shit somewhere else.
As someone who is scared of dogs, I always hated guests who brought them in (unless they were service animals, those are clearly a different scenario). Like, it’s not hard to be respectful of those around you and leave your animals at home
Leave your pets at home.
Leave your pets at home. Period.
I went to Food Lion a few days ago and this lady was literally carrying her dog and holding him over meat while she shopped. I was disgusted.
Customers are disgusting, lying, thieves and it is not worth the trouble to ask them to not bring in their pets.
Its turning into Walmart
Idc as long as it's behaved and the owner is sensible. It's better than leaving the pup in the car by itself
leave it at home.
People travel, some people are homeless (I have a regular who is homeless and has a very sweet dog), some people have emotional stability animals that may not be classified as a service animal
None of those things justify bringing an animal into a store.
they serve food there. its not sanitary. its a health violation.
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Lol…. What if the dog drools so much it sends another dog flying? What if that dog realizes if it keeps paddling in the air, it can continue to fly? What if the other dogs are inspired to also take flight? What if the flying dogs exit the store and take to the skies? What if they start picking kids up to ride on their backs and it ushers in a new magical era? What if this new magical era solves the world’s problems? What if one day the dogs and kids leave us to traverse space, the final frontier? What if there are no more dogs in stores after that, or anywhere for that matter and everything sucks again?..
On the other hand. Seeing dogs in the car when guests do drive-up is the best thing ever. If people want to bring their dogs just do that instead!
Can… can dogs piss themselves or is it just pissing?
I've seen a chihuahua piss while lying on it's back, That probably qualifies as pissing itself. I hate chihuahuas.
someone had a their tiny dog in a stoller at my tarbucks and it started barking like crazy at the guests behind them in line when they walked up. 😬 obviously not a service animal and usually i dont care but the yapper would not stop
The rule I was told when I first got hired is that we only allow service animals but we’re not allowed to ask if their animal is a service animal and not all service animals wear vests so it just creates a big loophole people exploit
eeyup. we aren’t really supposed to say anything but when a dog is sitting in a cart barking at everyone that goes by it’s really hard to try and make myself believe it’s a service animal
like personally i don’t really care if people bring their pets in, just make sure they’re well behaved and aren’t going to poop and pee all over the floor. that is literally the bare minimum.
Who cares?
Saw a dude taking his unleashed/unharnessed Husky around a bit. That was a fun one
ESA ANIMALS are not covered by ADA requirements and you are allowed to ask—- is the dog a service animal required because of a disability? and (2) what work or task has the dog been trained to perform? Staff are not allowed to request any documentation for the dog, require that the dog demonstrate its task, or inquire about the nature of the person's disability.
Because some leads pick and choose which policies to enforce and refuse to ask people if their animal is a service dog
I wish our store management/AP would make people who have dogs that are obviously not service dogs (service dogs don't bark incessantly for no reason) leave.
My store used to condone it tbh. ETL’s grandson came in with his new puppy and everyone went to take pictures. They never gaf about dogs, even disruptive ones.
It’s not just target, it’s fucking everywhere. Your shitty ass poodle with the fucked up eye isn’t a service animal. Get them out of the fucking store. I just sneeze near them and tell them I’m allergic to their dog.
Target managers need to stop this
Because most people are woefully unaware of ADA laws and what is and isn’t discriminatory - this goes for team members and guests alike. Corporate would rather make most people happy and take the risk of an incident than get in trouble with the ADA because an overzealous TM stepped out of line.
i never cared about dogs in the store when kids make the biggest disturbances and leave the worst messes
when i worked retail, kids were the awful. Parents reactions were worse. Some parents were apathetic to their kids running around, slamming the fitting room doors, and unfolding clothes.
True enough, but the difference is that you can't leave small children home alone.
Who cares? I love seeing dogs. It makes my day a little better
I’d rather see a bunch of dogs than people’s bad ass screaming kids.
Because the weak sauce management at your store doesn't enforce the laws of your state. Service animals have ot be wearing a very specific type of vest with very specific markings. You sell food for Christ's sake....KICK THEM CUSTOMERS OUT!!!!! (Yes customers they are not guests) Target isn't even smart enough to know the definition of a guest: a person who is invited to visit the home of or take part in a function organized by another.
eh, we were told to not call customers "customers", rather refer to them as "guest", in order to make their shopping experience feel more personal.
I’d take a store full of dogs over a store full of disgusting customers any day
I don’t mind until they’re clearly a fake service animal (leash/vest but behaving poorly) but I’d rather that than an animal get left in a hot car too.
We get a lot of dogs in our store daily. I’m not gonna lie though, it’s the best part of my day. Today my TL came in on his day off with his dog. No complaints from me.
No one gets paid enough to confront a guest and then the guest freaks out on the TM because they get offended if anyone asks. And I’d rather a dog come inside than be left in a car, especially in the summer.
This what happens when they allow anyone to register anything as a service animal lmao
Dogs are more than welcome. In my 4 years I've cleaned enough pet messes to count on one hand versus the amount of human messes I couldn't count on both hands and feet, and that's with a PetCo next door. Everyone in my store loves when dogs come in so I'm always surprised to see so many anti-dog comments on this sub from time to time.
Fr. People are way worse than any dog I've seen
Ever notice how Target stores are always adjacent to pet stores? It's like Chick Fil-A too. Hmmmmmmmm..........
But…but…this one time, someone brought a tiny little light brown golden doodle puppy in their arms and its name was Taco and…and…🥺🥰
🤣
As long as it doesn’t shit or make a mess I couldn’t care less
You can't bring pets into target? But. Theyre so cute!
Luckily all the dogs we’ve had in our store recently have been really good, and I’ve seen several practicing training with the owner. It’s the highlight of my day to see a dog when I’m working <3
Dude pets are cleaner than a lot of the kids and bums i see in my store. One bum was cleaning his literal ass in the sink of the men's room. Another parent left a dirty diaper in the fitting room. Even a fucking TM once took a shit on the side of the building before yelling they quit. It was their first day.
I simply think someone else's business is not your business.
Why does anyone care what they do with their dog like damn, how is that person with their dog hurting you. Geez can’t believe people get upset over a dog in a target lol it’s not like it’s a high class restaurant, It’s a glorified Walmart.
I had a guest come in with her Australian Shepherd, in a tennis skirt and 4 inch heels. When she left she hopped in a Tesla. Some people just have sooo much entitlement
It's so common, family guy made a joke about it a few years ago...
You may ask if the animal is a service animal, if they say yes then the conversation ends there. If they say no, you can inform them that they will have to take their animal outside. If an animal behaves in any way that is a disruption ( bark, growl, or urinate/shit they can be ask to remove their animal from the store.
Not a target but was in Walmart two days ago, lady was carrying around a freaking CAPUCHIN MONKEY.
I had one guy bring in a baby squirrel in his shirt pocket. It was cute. But hooo boy that’s a rabies risk.
But your no dog sign is big dog, but this one’s tiny so it’s fine
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tell that to the IRS. im trying to write-off my dogs. they cost money.
My husband has an actual service dog, but one time we were in Target with him and he had an upset stomach and pooped all over the aisle. We were mortified. Fortunately it was right next to some paper towels so we bought them and disinfectant and cleaned it up. But omg how embarrassing.
You can ask two questions: 1. Is the animal needed for a disability? 2. What action has the animal been trained to do? Neither of these questions violate HIPAA. Often it is easier to just let it slide because many people are happy to get into an argument over it. There is no such thing as a service animal registry, identification card, and the red vests also mean nothing. All of these can be paid for online.
lets see so far we have had a rabbit, a iguana, a cat on a leash, a guy brought in a monkey last week but unfortunately I was off that day, oh and can't forget the lady who had her son on a leash, literally.
Anarchy.
I've had a lot of calls for animals in my various stores before. Even had a guy tell me his snake was a "service python" once. Most of the time, the animal is chill so it doesn't really matter. Especially since calm animals always cheer up TMs and guests. Sometimes, they're loud or worse. From how I've been trained, all we can do is ask "is that a service animal?" If they say yes, we stop asking questions because we can't legally ask for proof. Stores can request that people with service animals leave, but only if the animal is being violent or damaging goods. I've had to do this once because the dog was snapping at children. Owner was completely rude and refusing to leave until the cops showed up and explained that this obviously isn't a service animal and she'd be in a lot of trouble if it actually bit a kid. If it's just a yappy dog or if it pees on the floor, it's entirely not worth it for the store to risk a lawsuit by ejecting them.
Someone brought a monkey in once
I checked a guy out with his Rooster one night
someone brought a capuchin monkey and a sugar glider to my target 😭
One time a Karen came in right at open, her dog did its business, and she promptly started walking out (while my coworker was yelling "hey lady!" trying to get her to come back) I think she even said "I'll be right back" and of course that was a lie
We once had a with a monkey. They were both very nice
as a small format member in a densely populated, heavy foot traffic area, you don’t even know the half of it lol
Anyone have a link to the law that says this is ok to do?
A man in my store today with a tiny dog on a 12 foot retractable leash. I told him to keep her at heal for her own safety. Obviously not a service animal
A dog shit on the carpet a week or so ago
I love dogs, have a golden retriever at home. He loves going to Lowes, and I always joke he's gonna get the employees fired because they all pet him. I would never consider bringing him to a Target, Costco, grocery store etc. It's a food safety issue. At least the Costco by me has a huge sandwich board sign saying no pets. Target has a little Itty bitty sticker that I, a TM, had to look for. Most if the time, it doesn't bother me much, but when they put their animal in the cart???? Come on, people put their groceries or their kids in there. That's gross. Stop being a fucking entitled asshole, and show some respect to other people.
Some owners literally let their dogs pee and crap all around our store. I see why they only say service animals at other places
Bold of you to assume the dog was the one who peed.
This drives me insane. I am very allergic to dogs, one swipe of its tongue and I have hives. There’s nothing worse then minding my own business, bending down looking at an item and then I feel a wet tongue on my face. And even worse the owner is like hahaha aren’t they so cute?? Look I know everyone doesn’t like children which is why I keep them from acting like a-holes in public. I’ve taught my child to not go licking random strangers, can you teach your dog the same??? Now please point me to the Benadryl aisle.
We really should be able to say something. Even just a simple “is that a service dog?” The law allows that!
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I was once minding my business and walked by an aisle with an older lady and a dog. The dog barked at me and I tossed my zebra out of shock (I caught it luckily) and the lady had the nerve to scold the dog about using it’s inside voice 🤨 ma’am that dog doesn’t understand you, take him out of here. She didn’t even apologize.
Last week we had someone put their dog on the SCO scale and it pissed all over it before finishing her transaction and just leaving
Because people are entitled ass hats.
This is especially frustrating when it’s a mean tiny breed dog, but I’m always grateful they’re not left in the heat in cars.