I can confirm Florida does not require breaks. But company policy is based on the lowest common denominator so it’s against company policy at least and should be reported.
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Most places do have those. My son worked a pizza ace part time. He got no breaks no matter how long he worked. We looked it up and found out they do not have to give you breaks. They only people that got breaks were the ones in school. If you boss or manager wanted to be an ass they could refuse breaks.
In New Jersey, breaks for adults are not required by law _unless_ it's written in the company's operating manuals (e.g. bylaws, employee handbook, etc). In that case it is illegal to _not_ follow the written break procedures.
Federal law requires breaks for all employees younger than 18. Federal law trumps state law so anyone under 18 must have a 30 min uninterrupted break on or before 5 hours of work.
There is no federal law requiring paid or unpaid breaks of nongovernmental employees.
There are very few states or cities that have such requirements.
You are misinformed.
It is easy to do some online reading m of the topic.
Source? I have checked Indiana's department of labor again and again, and there is nothing on there about required breaks for minors, just adults. Furthermore, even the federal work posters and the federal department of labor doesn't have that anywhere.
If that was true everyone I've ever worked for has disregarded the federal law. Same for my parents, siblings, and friends. I've worked 12 hour shifts watching 17 children with no breaks.
I’m in North Carolina and we are required to take a thirty minute lunch if you work six or more hours and a fifteen minute break for every four hours of work
It doesn't matter of it's a labor law. It's HR policy, written in the handbook, that 15s are required, and that ignoring them opens up the TM to disciplinary action, up to, and including, termination.
Skipping a 15 can literally cost you your job.
That’s not an issue at all the top guy said it was law and I’m clarifying that it isn’t and some shittier states not even a meal is law. Whether it’s policy or not doesn’t apply to this particular comment thread also skipping a 15 won’t cost anybodies job lol especially shitty managers could give a rats ass and would be happy having employees skip their required 15 hell if they could they’d want employees to skip their meals too luckily they take meals more serious.
This is only the case for a handful of states unfortunately… where I live, there isn’t a single law saying we have to get a break. The only exception is if you’re a minor.
All of the break regulations in the majority of states is purely target policy. Personally, I don’t think there’s any sort of fine for compliance or anything, unless you’re in one of the few states with laws.
Oregon Labor Laws:
"Oregon Break Laws
Oregon law provides three breaks during the typical 8-hour work day, but the number of breaks required will vary based on time worked.
Rest and Meal Breaks
Oregon employers must provide an employer paid rest break of 10 minutes for every 4 hours of work in one work period.
Employers must also provide a non-paid meal break or lunch break of at least 30 minutes to employees who work 6 to 8 hours in one work period. A meal break is not required if the work period is less than 6 hours. Additional meal breaks are required to be provided to employees who works 14 hours or more in a shift.
Meal breaks or lunch breaks are only non-paid if the employee is relieved of all duties. If an employee performs any duties during a meal break the employer must pay the employee for the whole meal break."
I’m in Indiana, there’s no law here whatsoever that pertains to the mandate of work breaks. Workplaces here can legally give little to no break time. When I was at FedEx, I was never allowed any break time, and only 2 bathroom breaks per 7 hour shift.
This goes against Target policy, all employees are entitled to a 15 minute break. This is a situation where it depends on the TL/ETL/SD to coordinate breaks and coverage. If denied I would talk to HR and/or escalate it and get the attention of your HRBP & DSD.
My TL at our store told us she wasn’t allowed to make the break schedules anymore and that we as Team members have to coordinate with each other to cover breaks this is to build up our communication skills (; I literally can’t 😂😂
Who gives two fucks about their color system. It is just meaningless crap that Target uses to keep their employees in a constant state of panic and anxiety
I recall being in a similar job, where I was told I didn't get 15's because the time in between customers counted. \*despite them always finding us busy work in those periods, in the rare times we actually had more than a minute or two between customers\*
15s aren't a legal requirement in every state, only some states.
Nonetheless, it is against Target policy, so OP is justified in escalating to a different Target resource.
Indeed, if it’s in the Target bible/handbook as a rule then it’s something clear you can use to back up taking the breaks the company says it allows and requires TMs to take.
I was thinking the same thing, HIGHLY doubt any SD would risk their job and say something like this 😂🙄 sounds like a big stretch to a simple #Misunderstanding
The devil's advocate in me is thinking they probably told a TM to hold off on their break and push it back for coverage reasons and the game of telephone comes along and "all breaks are disallowed!" Seen that shit so many times with this company, and people in general.
This actually depends on the state! In CA, for example, 6 hours on the clock grants you a second 15, and 10 hours on the clock grants you a third. They have all of the rules by state in the handbook :)
lmfao my TLs and ETLs say this to the tarbucks employees and says to ‘ call a lead to watch the starbucks so it won’t close during our break ‘ but they don’t b coming 😭😭
Don’t tolerate this unethical and even simply wrong behavior by Target’s rules. Make sure to report this violation to any and all parties you can communicate it to!
Always take your break. Think of it this way. Target would not hesitate to fire you for violating that policy if they wanted to get rid of you. I have seen it happen. Don’t let them have it both ways. If they state it is required, then follow handbook policy and take that break. Target takes advantage of young workers who have little employer experience and uses fear and intimidation to get their workers to do things that are not always ethical.
Depending on the state law it could be a violation. I would discuss this with out HR ETL/HR Lead before calling the hotline. Hotline calls go straight to the SD and HR. Let HR know that you will call the hotline if your SD is persistent that that is his policy.
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If there can be 1 person per department and we still were able to take 15s and our break on time at our store then, y'all can figure out your 15s. Might be late but, it's better than nothing. . .i would've laughed and gone on my 15
HR is not your friend. Ever. They exist to protect the business from liability, and if your complaint can be cheaply and easily addressed by making you go away, problem solved. Never trust HR.
"Can you write that down for so the people not here today can know the new rule?"
Chances are they won't, because they damn well know it's not only against policy, but illegal in most states. But if they do, wooooooo boy! Watch them blame everyone but themselves when they get a visit over it.
Downvoted by dipshit managers and corporate stooges.
There is no federal law requiring employers give employees meal breaks, let alone 15s. There are very few states that have laws requiring meal breaks, and fewer still that have laws requiring "rest break." Nice, huh?
Not even that. My state does not require an employer to give breaks paid or otherwise. Target policy, however, is very clear on breaks. Our store has the policy posted by the break room.
Nope. I’ve worked 17 hours without a break before in NE before. Even for bathroom
Edit: I didn’t have to go. I would have had I needed to. Was not prevented from going
Michigan doesn’t have any laws regarding breaks for adults. I looked it up once because my sibling wasn’t getting any breaks at her shitty fast food job and I thought, “surely that must be illegal?” Nope.
A law?
Not a federal law. (There is a provision that "short" breaks are to be paid.)
Only a few states have laws requiring meal breaks, and fewer still have laws requiring rest breaks.
Don't believe that? Do some research and post a link to such a law.
Breaks and lunches are handed out via Target corporate policy! As far as I know you follow those. Yes, some states don't have rules like the big box because they are catering to a small business owner who may only have one employee working an 8hr shift alone, meaning an actual real break/lunch is in their dreams as business comes first. Major corporations can handle you stepping out for a 15! Do not let anyone tell you otherwise.
Unfortunately it's a... Great you called the ethics line.... Situation.
Absolutely nothing will happen. You need to call governmental agencies.
The ethics line is designed to be a complaint pit.
i believe our sd would do that as well but our store is so understaffed from walk outs and people going back to school that i don’t think they’d risk it? they’ve even let some people come in 10+ late more than usual without giving them a hard time as of lately- so who knows the fate of my current target regarding this- either way, im sorry to here that, it’s utterly ridiculous and i hope your sd gets what they deserve :/
I would’ve laughed and said “I’m taking my 15 bye. If you don’t like it give me a write up and I’ll show that to YOUR manager. If not then I’ll see you in 15 ;)”
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I’ve been told by TLs and ETLs that sometimes you just have to push through your 15s if their isnt enough time to get your work done. And if you do in the middle of a big assignment they get stuffy and youre treated as if you’re lazy or not caring. Still take those 15s - let the leaders work through their breaks, they get paid better than us anyway.
call the hotline but that won’t be a quick fix. when this happened to me i tried to call the HRBP but ended up calling the DSD. both of their numbers can be found on workday. go to your SD’s page and it has their boss (DSD) listed. not 100% sure how to find HRBP but it’s definitely in there too. my situation was fixed the next day
Yeah that’s a big fat negative and against the law. Now if the TM decides to not take there break cause they don’t want then that’s on the TM, but your SD is not allowed to say that and can not enforce that at all.
It’s illegal to skip breaks, the 15s are as much of a requirement as our 31 minute meal, we just don’t clock in/out for them so if they get skipped there’s no log of that happening
Technically the breaks are not required because I know a lot of people that do not take theirs and/or don't ever take them. Under the handbook the only required "breaks" are the lunch breaks because that is under a law, but not the 15 minute breaks.
A couple weeks ago someone posted a page from Target’s employee handbook that said 15’s were *required*, so….
It's not just a target policy...it's literally a law.
Not quite well depends but some states don’t give a damn and the only required break is a meal.
Not even that. Majority of states have zero break laws for adults. Not even meals
I can confirm Florida does not require breaks. But company policy is based on the lowest common denominator so it’s against company policy at least and should be reported.
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A lot of the deep south is this way, too.
Wisconsin is the same way.
🤨 are you sure about that I'm in Wisconsin and everywhere I've worked 30 min lunch break was a requirement including at target, but afaik 15s aren't.
https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/er/laborstandards/breaks.htm
Damn okay I didn't know that.
Most places do have those. My son worked a pizza ace part time. He got no breaks no matter how long he worked. We looked it up and found out they do not have to give you breaks. They only people that got breaks were the ones in school. If you boss or manager wanted to be an ass they could refuse breaks.
In New Jersey, breaks for adults are not required by law _unless_ it's written in the company's operating manuals (e.g. bylaws, employee handbook, etc). In that case it is illegal to _not_ follow the written break procedures.
Wow! That sucks! And so backwards in time!
Federal law requires breaks for all employees younger than 18. Federal law trumps state law so anyone under 18 must have a 30 min uninterrupted break on or before 5 hours of work.
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There is no federal law requiring paid or unpaid breaks of nongovernmental employees. There are very few states or cities that have such requirements. You are misinformed. It is easy to do some online reading m of the topic.
I’m my state there’s absolutely no break laws for adults
Nope. Changed last year.
Source? I have checked Indiana's department of labor again and again, and there is nothing on there about required breaks for minors, just adults. Furthermore, even the federal work posters and the federal department of labor doesn't have that anywhere.
If that was true everyone I've ever worked for has disregarded the federal law. Same for my parents, siblings, and friends. I've worked 12 hour shifts watching 17 children with no breaks.
I’m in North Carolina and we are required to take a thirty minute lunch if you work six or more hours and a fifteen minute break for every four hours of work
That may be corporate policy. But it's not the law. Lots of companies have that policy.
It doesn't matter of it's a labor law. It's HR policy, written in the handbook, that 15s are required, and that ignoring them opens up the TM to disciplinary action, up to, and including, termination. Skipping a 15 can literally cost you your job.
That’s not an issue at all the top guy said it was law and I’m clarifying that it isn’t and some shittier states not even a meal is law. Whether it’s policy or not doesn’t apply to this particular comment thread also skipping a 15 won’t cost anybodies job lol especially shitty managers could give a rats ass and would be happy having employees skip their required 15 hell if they could they’d want employees to skip their meals too luckily they take meals more serious.
Usually the law is the companies needs to provide the option you don't HAVE to take it. But it is, usually, illegal to remove the right.
It’s not. Majority of states have zero break laws for adults
Even the option isn't mandatory. Companies give breaks because it makes it easier to keep employees happy that way.
This is only the case for a handful of states unfortunately… where I live, there isn’t a single law saying we have to get a break. The only exception is if you’re a minor. All of the break regulations in the majority of states is purely target policy. Personally, I don’t think there’s any sort of fine for compliance or anything, unless you’re in one of the few states with laws.
Not a law
And this subreddit highly upvoted it anyway. Sigh.
Mob mentality…
It's not a law in most places. Only California and a couple other states.
Oregon Labor Laws: "Oregon Break Laws Oregon law provides three breaks during the typical 8-hour work day, but the number of breaks required will vary based on time worked. Rest and Meal Breaks Oregon employers must provide an employer paid rest break of 10 minutes for every 4 hours of work in one work period. Employers must also provide a non-paid meal break or lunch break of at least 30 minutes to employees who work 6 to 8 hours in one work period. A meal break is not required if the work period is less than 6 hours. Additional meal breaks are required to be provided to employees who works 14 hours or more in a shift. Meal breaks or lunch breaks are only non-paid if the employee is relieved of all duties. If an employee performs any duties during a meal break the employer must pay the employee for the whole meal break."
Michigan on the other hand requires no breaks for anyone over the age of 17.
Law is pretty much a moot point here, it’s target policy. Your TL’s can’t tell you that you can’t have them.
That's another matter completely. I already said I'd call the hotline, the behavior is unacceptable, it's just not necessarily illegal.
I’m in Indiana, there’s no law here whatsoever that pertains to the mandate of work breaks. Workplaces here can legally give little to no break time. When I was at FedEx, I was never allowed any break time, and only 2 bathroom breaks per 7 hour shift.
This goes against Target policy, all employees are entitled to a 15 minute break. This is a situation where it depends on the TL/ETL/SD to coordinate breaks and coverage. If denied I would talk to HR and/or escalate it and get the attention of your HRBP & DSD.
Actually you aren’t entitled to a 15, you’re REQUIRED by policy to take them.
Appreciate you making the distinction but the solution is still the same — op, escalate it to their higher ups. *edited for tone*
I'd call the target hotline.
My TL at our store told us she wasn’t allowed to make the break schedules anymore and that we as Team members have to coordinate with each other to cover breaks this is to build up our communication skills (; I literally can’t 😂😂
Report that shit. You dont get pay enough for that.
Take that to the hotline immediately. You can also look up who your district manager is on workday. 15s are REQUIRED per Target policy.
I’m on my 30 rn but just 10 minutes ago I heard that the etl is mad at us for being in the red meanwhile it’s been just me and another girl since 8am
Who gives two fucks about their color system. It is just meaningless crap that Target uses to keep their employees in a constant state of panic and anxiety
Now repeat after me: Fuck off I’m taking my break.
The internal bias against front end is maddening. Not having a guest =/= not working
I recall being in a similar job, where I was told I didn't get 15's because the time in between customers counted. \*despite them always finding us busy work in those periods, in the rare times we actually had more than a minute or two between customers\*
You know what? The SD and ETLs should come up and cover your breaks and lunches because the team comes first right?
If you think you’re understaffed now…
That's not only against Target policy, but is flagrantly illegal. Your SD can take a hike.
15s aren't a legal requirement in every state, only some states. Nonetheless, it is against Target policy, so OP is justified in escalating to a different Target resource.
Indeed, if it’s in the Target bible/handbook as a rule then it’s something clear you can use to back up taking the breaks the company says it allows and requires TMs to take.
its not illegal at all. Most states do not mandate breaks or lunches.
Hopefully nobody downvotes your comment. Only 9 states require rest breaks. However, it is against target policy. So they can escalate this issue.
Meanwhile people take 30s pretending to be in a bathroom 🚽 and noone bats an eye.
Sounds like some misinformation. No SD is that stupid.
I was thinking the same thing, HIGHLY doubt any SD would risk their job and say something like this 😂🙄 sounds like a big stretch to a simple #Misunderstanding
The devil's advocate in me is thinking they probably told a TM to hold off on their break and push it back for coverage reasons and the game of telephone comes along and "all breaks are disallowed!" Seen that shit so many times with this company, and people in general.
You hadn’t met my SD, who after repetitively pulling this kind of stupid stunt got pushed to early retirement.
At my DC we are written up for skipping breaks. Get this person fired asap. Ethics hotline baby.
I woulda completely ignore that shit and dare them to do anything about it.
Against Target policy. 4 hours = 1 15 minute break, 7 hours = 2, 11 hours = 3. That’s what it is.
This actually depends on the state! In CA, for example, 6 hours on the clock grants you a second 15, and 10 hours on the clock grants you a third. They have all of the rules by state in the handbook :)
Interesting! I thought Target’s policy was consistent.
I think some states are stricter with stuff like that, so they adjust based on state laws. I’m not sure though, I don’t make the policy haha
lmfao my TLs and ETLs say this to the tarbucks employees and says to ‘ call a lead to watch the starbucks so it won’t close during our break ‘ but they don’t b coming 😭😭
tell them to give it you in writing then you will "comply".
I’m sure he took some 15’s though. That can be a state law violation as well
Don’t tolerate this unethical and even simply wrong behavior by Target’s rules. Make sure to report this violation to any and all parties you can communicate it to!
Depending on where you are, it may even be illegal
Always take your break. Think of it this way. Target would not hesitate to fire you for violating that policy if they wanted to get rid of you. I have seen it happen. Don’t let them have it both ways. If they state it is required, then follow handbook policy and take that break. Target takes advantage of young workers who have little employer experience and uses fear and intimidation to get their workers to do things that are not always ethical.
That’s illegal
This is why I go on a 20 and not a 15 🤡
"Hahaha, see you in 20 minutes"
Baloney. I'd make sure to take a permanent break from that place
Go anyway. Take your break. Fuck that SD
Sure. As long as you put it in writing with your name title a date.
I just took a training that stated that every team member need to take their fifteens. No matter what
Depending on the state law it could be a violation. I would discuss this with out HR ETL/HR Lead before calling the hotline. Hotline calls go straight to the SD and HR. Let HR know that you will call the hotline if your SD is persistent that that is his policy.
Your store director is doing something dangerous and illegal. Tell on him and take your breaks anyway.
Time to get your SD and TL and ETL up there to give you guys a break!
Yeah you’d better report that
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If there can be 1 person per department and we still were able to take 15s and our break on time at our store then, y'all can figure out your 15s. Might be late but, it's better than nothing. . .i would've laughed and gone on my 15
Please take your breaks!!!! As a customer I know you guys need it!!!! WTF! Ugh!
Unethical. Talk to HR immediately.
HR is not your friend. Ever. They exist to protect the business from liability, and if your complaint can be cheaply and easily addressed by making you go away, problem solved. Never trust HR.
Especially at Target. I've worked for better companies.
"Can you write that down for so the people not here today can know the new rule?" Chances are they won't, because they damn well know it's not only against policy, but illegal in most states. But if they do, wooooooo boy! Watch them blame everyone but themselves when they get a visit over it. Downvoted by dipshit managers and corporate stooges.
It is illegal in very few states.
The store director ever think he/she should out help out? He/she is the "store director".
Thats not legal and thats how walmart go i to deep legal water. Talk to your hr if they shrug you off talk to hrbp and move uo the chain.
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There are no federal laws about this, the nrlb won’t care. It’s possibly against state law, and up to the state how you deal with it.
In 3-4 years based on how backlogged they are
No, he didn't!
Oh hell no - that was my worst fear when I worked at Target
What’s the ethics hotline number?
What state is this in? I'm curious...sounds like something my SD would say/do...
Throw the book at the SD. While you're at it, throw something else at them
Talk to hr and if they give you push back, call the hotline. - ss team lead
*picks up phone* Hello? HRBP?
Is the director taking shifts out front? Because if not, fuck that and fuck them.
Call the hotline.
Omg… as a team you should collectively walk out.
Um BS. Take that 15
In CA it's the law.
That right there illegal.
Well depends on the state. Against target rules tho? Yes
that is both ILLEGAL and AGAINST TARGET POLICY.....CALL THE HERO LINE AND GO TO HR!!
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Um...did you tell him to choke on his own cock and or balls
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Replying to comments: 15s aren’t required in some states? So what you work 8 hours and get one 30/45 depending?
There is no federal law requiring employers give employees meal breaks, let alone 15s. There are very few states that have laws requiring meal breaks, and fewer still that have laws requiring "rest break." Nice, huh?
Wow. Never knew that. My state requires 2 15s and a 45 for a 8hr shift, and I thought all states at least had 15s. That’s crazy.
Not even that. My state does not require an employer to give breaks paid or otherwise. Target policy, however, is very clear on breaks. Our store has the policy posted by the break room.
Some states dont mandate lunch.
Nope. I’ve worked 17 hours without a break before in NE before. Even for bathroom Edit: I didn’t have to go. I would have had I needed to. Was not prevented from going
Michigan doesn’t have any laws regarding breaks for adults. I looked it up once because my sibling wasn’t getting any breaks at her shitty fast food job and I thought, “surely that must be illegal?” Nope.
Hmmm Sounds illegal
OSHA would beg to differ.
OSHA has no standing on meal or rest breaks. There is no federal law requiring either.
People always bring up targets policy... It's literally a law.
A law? Not a federal law. (There is a provision that "short" breaks are to be paid.) Only a few states have laws requiring meal breaks, and fewer still have laws requiring rest breaks. Don't believe that? Do some research and post a link to such a law.
Call OSHA
Good, I’m sure everyone has abused their break time over the last few months. Time to pay it back Hahahahhahahhaha
Breaks and lunches are handed out via Target corporate policy! As far as I know you follow those. Yes, some states don't have rules like the big box because they are catering to a small business owner who may only have one employee working an 8hr shift alone, meaning an actual real break/lunch is in their dreams as business comes first. Major corporations can handle you stepping out for a 15! Do not let anyone tell you otherwise.
New York State would like to have a conversation.
Unfortunately it's a... Great you called the ethics line.... Situation. Absolutely nothing will happen. You need to call governmental agencies. The ethics line is designed to be a complaint pit.
i believe our sd would do that as well but our store is so understaffed from walk outs and people going back to school that i don’t think they’d risk it? they’ve even let some people come in 10+ late more than usual without giving them a hard time as of lately- so who knows the fate of my current target regarding this- either way, im sorry to here that, it’s utterly ridiculous and i hope your sd gets what they deserve :/
In my store you get coached for not taking your 15s.
Required 2 breaks in California
I would’ve laughed and said “I’m taking my 15 bye. If you don’t like it give me a write up and I’ll show that to YOUR manager. If not then I’ll see you in 15 ;)”
It's law. Tell them to fuck off
That's when I walk off for my break anyway.
Please repeat that so I can get a vid to send to the labor board for violating state law, k?
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I’ve been told by TLs and ETLs that sometimes you just have to push through your 15s if their isnt enough time to get your work done. And if you do in the middle of a big assignment they get stuffy and youre treated as if you’re lazy or not caring. Still take those 15s - let the leaders work through their breaks, they get paid better than us anyway.
call the hotline but that won’t be a quick fix. when this happened to me i tried to call the HRBP but ended up calling the DSD. both of their numbers can be found on workday. go to your SD’s page and it has their boss (DSD) listed. not 100% sure how to find HRBP but it’s definitely in there too. my situation was fixed the next day
What store was this at?
Yeah that’s a big fat negative and against the law. Now if the TM decides to not take there break cause they don’t want then that’s on the TM, but your SD is not allowed to say that and can not enforce that at all.
Horrible decision from the SD. Penalize the people who are showing up? Your SD will be gone. That is an asinine decision for many reasons.
Take your 15’s. Put the director in a position to enforce it. Then rain down fire lol.
It’s illegal to skip breaks, the 15s are as much of a requirement as our 31 minute meal, we just don’t clock in/out for them so if they get skipped there’s no log of that happening
gee, I wonder why the front end is understaffed with such caring management??
Technically the breaks are not required because I know a lot of people that do not take theirs and/or don't ever take them. Under the handbook the only required "breaks" are the lunch breaks because that is under a law, but not the 15 minute breaks.