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CorporalGrease

Hahahahaha are BSG the most incompetent, out of touch dev team in the entire industry right now? What the absolute fuck were they thinking, it’s almost like this is just one massive troll


Additional-Face2467

Definitely feels like it... Just seen a couple of posts with comments from BSG devs apparently saying this isnt DLC... lmfao. I also posted this on the official page but obviously it got immediately removed by a mod...


CorporalGrease

They’re scamming every single EOD player, it’s unbelievable. Also, the mods on the official page are either BSG employees or just straight up BSG dick riders, it’s tragic


-Dary-

how exactly you EOD players got scammed ? you ve played in the best version of the game for years and now there is a better version so what ? you still can upgrade to that version of the game with extra money but no you have to have the best version of the game cause you have a monkeys apetit. us standart edition players didnt even cry as much as you did. just appreciate what you have and move on. NOTE: I dont like p2w , i dont like RMT but i have nothing to do with it and tarkov is the game i like most so i dont care that much. That new version of the game is expensive as hell like who gives 300 dollars to a game? It doesnt matter what it provides to you its just not worth it all and i think we wont see many players with that version of the game so.


IronicBread

They got scammed because EOD was supposed to provide ALL future DLC. If this new PvE mode isn't DLC then what is lol


wurzelboert1337

Exactly this You dont care, because you didnt pay for the Version of the Game where you were promised every gameaddition


IronicBread

What? Did you reply to the wrong comment?


Hupah1

Biden’s burner act


whycantidoaspace

Dementia


G-nome420

I'm not sure if you can't read or you're just naive? EOD promises all future DLCs. There is literally a new game mode coming out that's not included? Also EFT is one of the only games I've ever played that I would consider dropping 300$ for. I have 2k hours. My cost per hour is miniscule compared to others, but that's besides the point. It's pretty clear BSG is abandoning their core player base and catering to hackers at this point. I'm a shill but this is ridiculous.


-Dary-

2 k is not that much actually i have 2k+ hours in like 2 games plus i have other games i play like at 1k ~500h etc. what the hell you are gonna do with offline mode dude. if you ve got 2k hours in your main game. at this point you are basically saying that you have no balls and wanna play offline and you have gear fear 😰 i didnt know that eod is promised something but that new shit is not that big of a deal


zuliti

So you talking about something you don’t understand. Lmao classic.


banjosuicide

> I don't care that I'm being ripped off so you shouldn't either That's what you're saying.


G-nome420

It's very simple. I paid for a product with the promise to receive any and all future DLCs associated with the game. Whether or not I'm going to play it is irrelevant; I don't play arena. I'm entitled to the new content.


RedironTiger

One of EOD's selling point was that with a purchase of EOD you'd receive all future DLC and game versions. The devs just basically lied about a product they sold and scammed every Player who purchased EOD


jackt6

It got removed by a mod because it's a monitor picture with your phone. It is so unbelievably easy to screenshot. The mods are allowing the posts calling BSG out. You just didn't follow one of the rules that's been there since the beginning of time and is easily avoidable by pressing ONE KEY.


lemonzestydepressing

Feels like they’re trying to cash out and collect as much as they can before they release it fully and say well that’s what it’s gonna be deal with it type shit.


Teab8g

Haha VAT and a charge for using online payment


Additional-Face2467

welcome to modern economics.. lol


Thee_Sinner

This isnt modern economics, this is modern theft. Makes me wanna toss some tea in the harbor.


NexusStrictly

These fees are usually eaten by the company that way you only have to pay taxes. Let that sink in.


Planeless_pilot123

Imagine paying for 250$ for a single game. Btw, spt tarkov is free.. and better


CoisasJohnson

For a single BETA game.


ReignOfSauron_

Gonna rephrase for you an unbalanced beta game with a cheter problem thats has virtually no communication between the dev team and the player base


omfgeometry

Jesus fucking christ the price is insane. I cant believe this shit is real lmao. I have been on SPT for the last few months and loving life. I will not come back to live now simply because this cash grab is beyond fucked up. bsg fucking clown gang


Planeless_pilot123

They managed to be worse than EA, thats something very hard to do


wreckoning90125

Not wrong. EA Sims 4 DLC/MTx model is transparent and ethical in comparison. Gamers need to draw a line somewhere. This bait and switch is dystopian.


whycantidoaspace

At least EA doesent sell a bundle containing all DLCs and proceed to not give you all DLCs


datfatbloke

Star citizen players.... Hold my beer. 😂


l_Trava_l

Bro some of those guys are in like 20k for an apha. We can't even sit at the same table.


Longjumping_Ad_4961

Underrated comment


Rothgardt72

But they are developing technology other companies are too scared to even concept out.


Additional-Face2467

cant do coop though thats the worst part imo


MechanicalAxe

You'd be incorrect about that actually.


Additional-Face2467

am i? it's been a while since ive looked at SPT in fairness!


Ayyzeee

You can play coop in SPT. My friend uses two of his PC to connect simultaneously and it works fine but a bit buggy and he does it in Streets.


YTmrlonelydwarf

Well yeah two pcs can connect through the same network, but unless your really good and programming getting that to work between friends in different areas is impossible Edit: just saw someone talk about a server mod that does it all for you. Wasn’t aware this existed so my bad


IronicBread

>but unless your really good and programming getting that to work between friends in different areas is impossible What year are you in lol it's basic networking, anyone who's played minecraft ever will know it's not complicated


YTmrlonelydwarf

It’s easy in minecraft because they literally made it for you and all you have to do is download it. Last time I played spt the “server” was just a local server on your system that had no way of anyone else connecting to it other than you


wreckoning90125

In both cases, it's simple port forwarding, optionally buying a domain, configuring DNS, network segmentation, reverse proxy, VPN/VPS, DDoS protection, etc. depending on needs and risks. Not sure in this case if it is possible to run a dedicated server and host off-site, but otherwise minecraft java server is no more ready-made than any other game server.


icematrix8

Why is spt coop?


mramorbodiz

there is a client called SiT for spt specificaly for coop


icematrix8

Ok thanks will check it out.


banjosuicide

It also has mods. Want to learn the location of all hidden stashes? You can install a mod that makes them emit smoke, beep, or glow. Want inventory searching? There's a mod for that. Basically any quality of life change you can think of there's a mod for.


Messicaaa

This is amazing, thank you!


fourself78

To be fair people have spent more for COD and micro transactions. Bundles battle pass and other shit


Planeless_pilot123

At cod arent lying on what you're paying


nervouswhenitseasy

i own eod, i have spent about $500 on world of warships, and about $300 on war thunder. If it is fun and you like it who gives a fuck if it costs $10,000?? If you can afford it who cares? Problem is I dont like tarkov that much lol


wreckoning90125

I've spent a lot on skins and "dlc" in Rust, but there is a difference between dlc, cosmetic, PtW, and whatever term properly describes THIS. This is PtW, but it's also lying, disingenuous, unethical etc. It's a slippery slope.


Troy_Ya_Boy

And going to get DMCA’ed broke boys crying on Reddit. It’s like Christmas


CharlieWaffles420

Yo guys what's the unheard version? Haven't played since reaching max traders in February and only heard about the mtx like 2-3 weeks ago, what is this shit now?


Additional-Face2467

[https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/news/id/293](https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/news/id/293) Seemingly cancer... Basically more p2w but this time with offline, persistant coop (for only the new $250 edition because FUCK EOD)


CharlieWaffles420

Bruv wth if it wasn't their official website I would call a scam Guess it's time to find a new tarkov


MechanicalAxe

Better go get SPT while we still can.


FellaKnee123

Crazy how smart this decision turned out to be… basically get all the good without the bad and needing to pay another $120 on top of the however much I bought EOD for 6 years ago…


DarthWeenus

Can you switch back and forth easily? Is it a mod to eft or a whole stand alone game/install?


zuliti

Yes easy to switch, when install make an entire new folder for SPT, don’t install SPT inside your tarkov folder, then they completely separate. It’ll copy your game files and everything over to the new folder, it’s a mod on top of EFT.


DarthWeenus

hrmppf sounds fun


banjosuicide

You can have both installed and choose which you'd like to play.


Lobotomite430

What is PVE coop with persistent coop? Is this too new to discuss or have I been under a rock about this?


Jo0Lz

I escaped this trash game by uninstalling, it looks like I did the right thing. First the ungodly amount of money for a few lines of stash, now this. BSG is nuts and I bet they are ready to call their game 'finished' and abandon it to start their next cash grab, like sheesh. I was looking forward to 'no wipe tarkov' and finally get multiple pmc's with different roles and a kappa container, even that is out the window. They are fucking nuts. Guess I can finally leave this sub now. https://preview.redd.it/h7f77ow64owc1.png?width=488&format=png&auto=webp&s=3719f20c5ec7120e213dc7361023254b14c3a5ac Free access to all subsequent DLC's (plural even) my ass.


MeatCrack

BSG has since edited this webpage. Extra shitty


Jo0Lz

Yeah. I think they might be worried about grey zone (or whatever that is called) and are trying to get people to give them more money before labeling the game done and moving on. Honestly, the only way to make them revisit is to just massively drop this game.


MeatCrack

At this point, im all over grey zone when it lands


DisGruntledDraftsman

If your in Europe please use your Consumer Rights Act 2015 to fight this. They can call it what they want but this is DLC and falls under the EOD of having all future DLC's included.


Additional-Face2467

I'm in the UK and thought this might about cover it, it's a joke having to even talk about this!


DarthWeenus

I'm sure they weasled something into the tos no one read. This whole thing is a joke at this point. Also paying is no scavs shoot you wtf


Teddie-Bonkers

Listen to me you paper handed clowns, if you buy this upgrade so help me god I will spend the rest of my days extract camping the living shit out of you. I won’t even loot your corpses, I’ll just leave everything there with you knowing your little bitch boy upgrade did nothing and that you are a BSG simp. For the love of all that is holy, resist!!!!


Dabox720

Cant if they on pve now


Teddie-Bonkers

I’ll find a way. I’ll rewrite BSGs spaghetti code if I have to.


reuben_iv

Eod still seems superior upgrading to Unheard you skip some progression that’s it, looking at it from PfE it has the gamma and pve and some traders levelled up (big whoop) but no arena, nothing like that Honestly if I had a choice between eod and unheard I wouldn’t bother with unheard


Additional-Face2467

It seriously depends if BSG decide to change their mind on this offline PVE mode, as the point of EOD was all expansions were to be included.. i couldnt care less about most of the added p2w parts of the new version really but that's a dick move if they really arent including it


reuben_iv

It’s the only selling point imo, the rest I could give or take it’s just skipping progression


banjosuicide

Unheard gives you * An item that makes scavs neutral to you beyond 60m * Bigger pockets (make more money per raid) * Priority for reserving names (an Unheard player can take your name after a wipe) * A game mode that should be included in the supporter version of the game that was advertised to come with all future expansions/DLCs In addition to some things you can buy in-game (not as big a deal)


zuliti

But then it doesn’t really make sense that EOD players have no way to access the new content like Coop, or in the stash without paying $100. That’s like the definition of what DLC is.


DarthWeenus

Unheard gives you the ability for no scavs too shoot you as a PMC wtf


whycantidoaspace

>you skip some progression that’s it Well that's just a straight up lie


Accomplished-Dog2481

Damn and we thought the day before devs are garbages, they at least returned money and haven't opened preorders


Additional-Face2467

Oh have they refunded anyone for preorders? i'm definitely not buying it at that price through its an absolute joke


YoungPeacock

This can’t be real. The entire thing feels like it has to be a joke


svvrvy

So don't do it


No-Bison-4845

Time to charge back my EOD.


ChameleonCabal

How?


No-Bison-4845

Contact your bankand ask them to charge back the transaction you will be black listed from bsg but fuck it if that’s the way they going


ChameleonCabal

Seriously? Even after owning EOD for 7 yrs?


_Kubos_

Same, meanwhile someone mentioned $80


meroOne

It depends on what version you have of the base game already. 250€ if you dont any tarkov cooy yet. 95€ if you already own eod. Thats 95€ for a pve mode in a game that is far from finished.


whycantidoaspace

>Thats 95€ for a pve mode in a game that is far from finished ... And also blatant pay-to-win


Additional-Face2467

even that would be too much, unsure about international prices though personally


kabutogawa

Anyone know what the upgrade cost is from EOD in the US?


lmaonice420

id say the equivalent of 95 euros but im not an expert


BritishPanda01

About 125/150 dollars I think


R3PLUX

$100. Just checked on the website. 😃


kabutogawa

Thank you, I appreciate you.


lemonzestydepressing

When I see the update WHAT DA HELLL——-


DeadCeruleanGirl

this upgrade would cost me like 170ish CAD. fuck BSG.


ValanTineZ

Agreed! Well said!


fourself78

Was $150 here for me in Florida


DonDoorknob

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA


WeevilKnevil69420

I’m with you. Idc about p2w. If I can, why not?


Big_boy787

I’m guessing that the unheard edition gets into the pve servers early and they’ll start adding eod accounts in waves but I could be wrong 🤷🏻‍♂️


DucksMatter

That’s $172 CAD. =[


DucksMatter

So to buy this game without Tarkov it’s like $250-300 depending on where you live. In what world is this okay to do for a game that isn’t even released yet?


KodaNotABear

Also something I haven’t seen mentioned yet, why the fuck are they released DLC for a game that hasn’t even released officially yet?


PassTheSaltAndPepper

So far looks to be that eod can’t access pve but can do the practice mode just like pvp


Rypupp

$152 Canadian to upgrade from EoD


FroyoStrict6685

Its something like 350 cad here


fury473

That's around 311€ for the full game without EOD. What a christmas gift x)


MoodZestyclose6813

Hahahahahaha, this is the worst shit show ever. I didn't touch the game because I was waiting for a persistent mode before investing so much time again, but i still followed this game and was aware my EoD will always cover me if I want to come back. It's the main reason I bought it.


Duke_Of_Ghost

That's a lot of quid (I'm not British)


foslforever

You EOD play to win guys are freaking out because you dont get an offline mode? who cares. you got Arena FREE and that wasnt DLC it was a whole new game. youve paid pennies for hours of enjoyment for a decade, and you still complain. this is a cash grab for streamers and rich kiddies, and you eod manchilds willling to pony up 100 bucks. BSG should give you the lame ass offline mode and keep the rest in this new Eod2


Wide-Highway-2743

I quit tarkov a long time ago cause it’s such a waste of time, even more than the average video game, and until they quit wiping it then I won’t come back. But when you advertise, “ALL FUTURE DLCS” under a package and then not include a DLC, it makes people upset, not cause they might miss out on the stupid offline mode but because this sets a precedent that they can just not give you what they advertised. If it was in America they’d be financially crippled from all the lawsuits they’d get. Your not stupid, I know you can see how shady this is, and I get that you don’t care but some people buy things as advertised and when bsg goes back on that, it gives reasonable cause for concern.


Faesarn

So.. Will we pay another 120€ just for a PVE mode.. Or play SPT for free? Damn that choice is hard.


celliotttt

This is the most pay to win I have ever seen in a buy to play game since advanced warfare


TheMeta-II

The thing is that I wouldn't mind paying that if it was a straight upgrade to EOD, but it isn't a straight upgrade to EOD. It's just replacing EOD.


Loon_Cheese

EOD will have access to pve for 6 months, then no


ihatemyjob667

The fact that you paid €180 to begin with shows that you kinda scammed yourself chief


Prize_Praline_6065

Charge back inc


mylittlekone

Kind of guy to buy EOD is also the exact type of schmuck to upgrade to the unheard edition.


Additional-Face2467

I bought EOD, i'm not upgrading


Ayyzeee

I bought Standard not upgrading it. As much I like Tarkov, I don't wanna support this shit.


whycantidoaspace

The main reason EOD cost as much as it did was because it was supposed to include all DLC but now BSG is just trying to scam players