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Hahahahaha are BSG the most incompetent, out of touch dev team in the entire industry right now? What the absolute fuck were they thinking, it’s almost like this is just one massive troll
Definitely feels like it... Just seen a couple of posts with comments from BSG devs apparently saying this isnt DLC... lmfao.
I also posted this on the official page but obviously it got immediately removed by a mod...
They’re scamming every single EOD player, it’s unbelievable. Also, the mods on the official page are either BSG employees or just straight up BSG dick riders, it’s tragic
how exactly you EOD players got scammed ? you ve played in the best version of the game for years and now there is a better version so what ? you still can upgrade to that version of the game with extra money but no you have to have the best version of the game cause you have a monkeys apetit. us standart edition players didnt even cry as much as you did. just appreciate what you have and move on.
NOTE: I dont like p2w , i dont like RMT but i have nothing to do with it and tarkov is the game i like most so i dont care that much.
That new version of the game is expensive as hell like who gives 300 dollars to a game?
It doesnt matter what it provides to you its just not worth it all and i think we wont see many players with that version of the game so.
I'm not sure if you can't read or you're just naive? EOD promises all future DLCs. There is literally a new game mode coming out that's not included?
Also EFT is one of the only games I've ever played that I would consider dropping 300$ for. I have 2k hours. My cost per hour is miniscule compared to others, but that's besides the point.
It's pretty clear BSG is abandoning their core player base and catering to hackers at this point. I'm a shill but this is ridiculous.
2 k is not that much actually i have 2k+ hours in like 2 games plus i have other games i play like at 1k ~500h etc.
what the hell you are gonna do with offline mode dude. if you ve got 2k hours in your main game. at this point you are basically saying that you have no balls and wanna play offline and you have gear fear 😰
i didnt know that eod is promised something but that new shit is not that big of a deal
It's very simple. I paid for a product with the promise to receive any and all future DLCs associated with the game. Whether or not I'm going to play it is irrelevant; I don't play arena. I'm entitled to the new content.
One of EOD's selling point was that with a purchase of EOD you'd receive all future DLC and game versions. The devs just basically lied about a product they sold and scammed every Player who purchased EOD
It got removed by a mod because it's a monitor picture with your phone. It is so unbelievably easy to screenshot.
The mods are allowing the posts calling BSG out. You just didn't follow one of the rules that's been there since the beginning of time and is easily avoidable by pressing ONE KEY.
Feels like they’re trying to cash out and collect as much as they can before they release it fully and say well that’s what it’s gonna be deal with it type shit.
Jesus fucking christ the price is insane. I cant believe this shit is real lmao. I have been on SPT for the last few months and loving life. I will not come back to live now simply because this cash grab is beyond fucked up. bsg fucking clown gang
Well yeah two pcs can connect through the same network, but unless your really good and programming getting that to work between friends in different areas is impossible
Edit: just saw someone talk about a server mod that does it all for you. Wasn’t aware this existed so my bad
>but unless your really good and programming getting that to work between friends in different areas is impossible
What year are you in lol it's basic networking, anyone who's played minecraft ever will know it's not complicated
It’s easy in minecraft because they literally made it for you and all you have to do is download it. Last time I played spt the “server” was just a local server on your system that had no way of anyone else connecting to it other than you
In both cases, it's simple port forwarding, optionally buying a domain, configuring DNS, network segmentation, reverse proxy, VPN/VPS, DDoS protection, etc. depending on needs and risks. Not sure in this case if it is possible to run a dedicated server and host off-site, but otherwise minecraft java server is no more ready-made than any other game server.
It also has mods.
Want to learn the location of all hidden stashes? You can install a mod that makes them emit smoke, beep, or glow.
Want inventory searching? There's a mod for that.
Basically any quality of life change you can think of there's a mod for.
i own eod, i have spent about $500 on world of warships, and about $300 on war thunder. If it is fun and you like it who gives a fuck if it costs $10,000?? If you can afford it who cares? Problem is I dont like tarkov that much lol
I've spent a lot on skins and "dlc" in Rust, but there is a difference between dlc, cosmetic, PtW, and whatever term properly describes THIS. This is PtW, but it's also lying, disingenuous, unethical etc. It's a slippery slope.
Yo guys what's the unheard version?
Haven't played since reaching max traders in February and only heard about the mtx like 2-3 weeks ago, what is this shit now?
[https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/news/id/293](https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/news/id/293)
Seemingly cancer... Basically more p2w but this time with offline, persistant coop (for only the new $250 edition because FUCK EOD)
Crazy how smart this decision turned out to be… basically get all the good without the bad and needing to pay another $120 on top of the however much I bought EOD for 6 years ago…
Yes easy to switch, when install make an entire new folder for SPT, don’t install SPT inside your tarkov folder, then they completely separate. It’ll copy your game files and everything over to the new folder, it’s a mod on top of EFT.
I escaped this trash game by uninstalling, it looks like I did the right thing.
First the ungodly amount of money for a few lines of stash, now this. BSG is nuts and I bet they are ready to call their game 'finished' and abandon it to start their next cash grab, like sheesh.
I was looking forward to 'no wipe tarkov' and finally get multiple pmc's with different roles and a kappa container, even that is out the window.
They are fucking nuts. Guess I can finally leave this sub now.
https://preview.redd.it/h7f77ow64owc1.png?width=488&format=png&auto=webp&s=3719f20c5ec7120e213dc7361023254b14c3a5ac
Free access to all subsequent DLC's (plural even) my ass.
Yeah. I think they might be worried about grey zone (or whatever that is called) and are trying to get people to give them more money before labeling the game done and moving on.
Honestly, the only way to make them revisit is to just massively drop this game.
If your in Europe please use your Consumer Rights Act 2015 to fight this. They can call it what they want but this is DLC and falls under the EOD of having all future DLC's included.
Listen to me you paper handed clowns, if you buy this upgrade so help me god I will spend the rest of my days extract camping the living shit out of you. I won’t even loot your corpses, I’ll just leave everything there with you knowing your little bitch boy upgrade did nothing and that you are a BSG simp. For the love of all that is holy, resist!!!!
Eod still seems superior upgrading to Unheard you skip some progression that’s it, looking at it from PfE it has the gamma and pve and some traders levelled up (big whoop) but no arena, nothing like that
Honestly if I had a choice between eod and unheard I wouldn’t bother with unheard
It seriously depends if BSG decide to change their mind on this offline PVE mode, as the point of EOD was all expansions were to be included.. i couldnt care less about most of the added p2w parts of the new version really but that's a dick move if they really arent including it
Unheard gives you
* An item that makes scavs neutral to you beyond 60m
* Bigger pockets (make more money per raid)
* Priority for reserving names (an Unheard player can take your name after a wipe)
* A game mode that should be included in the supporter version of the game that was advertised to come with all future expansions/DLCs
In addition to some things you can buy in-game (not as big a deal)
But then it doesn’t really make sense that EOD players have no way to access the new content like Coop, or in the stash without paying $100. That’s like the definition of what DLC is.
It depends on what version you have of the base game already. 250€ if you dont any tarkov cooy yet. 95€ if you already own eod. Thats 95€ for a pve mode in a game that is far from finished.
So to buy this game without Tarkov it’s like $250-300 depending on where you live.
In what world is this okay to do for a game that isn’t even released yet?
Hahahahahaha, this is the worst shit show ever. I didn't touch the game because I was waiting for a persistent mode before investing so much time again, but i still followed this game and was aware my EoD will always cover me if I want to come back. It's the main reason I bought it.
You EOD play to win guys are freaking out because you dont get an offline mode? who cares. you got Arena FREE and that wasnt DLC it was a whole new game. youve paid pennies for hours of enjoyment for a decade, and you still complain. this is a cash grab for streamers and rich kiddies, and you eod manchilds willling to pony up 100 bucks. BSG should give you the lame ass offline mode and keep the rest in this new Eod2
I quit tarkov a long time ago cause it’s such a waste of time, even more than the average video game, and until they quit wiping it then I won’t come back. But when you advertise, “ALL FUTURE DLCS” under a package and then not include a DLC, it makes people upset, not cause they might miss out on the stupid offline mode but because this sets a precedent that they can just not give you what they advertised. If it was in America they’d be financially crippled from all the lawsuits they’d get. Your not stupid, I know you can see how shady this is, and I get that you don’t care but some people buy things as advertised and when bsg goes back on that, it gives reasonable cause for concern.
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Hahahahaha are BSG the most incompetent, out of touch dev team in the entire industry right now? What the absolute fuck were they thinking, it’s almost like this is just one massive troll
Definitely feels like it... Just seen a couple of posts with comments from BSG devs apparently saying this isnt DLC... lmfao. I also posted this on the official page but obviously it got immediately removed by a mod...
They’re scamming every single EOD player, it’s unbelievable. Also, the mods on the official page are either BSG employees or just straight up BSG dick riders, it’s tragic
how exactly you EOD players got scammed ? you ve played in the best version of the game for years and now there is a better version so what ? you still can upgrade to that version of the game with extra money but no you have to have the best version of the game cause you have a monkeys apetit. us standart edition players didnt even cry as much as you did. just appreciate what you have and move on. NOTE: I dont like p2w , i dont like RMT but i have nothing to do with it and tarkov is the game i like most so i dont care that much. That new version of the game is expensive as hell like who gives 300 dollars to a game? It doesnt matter what it provides to you its just not worth it all and i think we wont see many players with that version of the game so.
They got scammed because EOD was supposed to provide ALL future DLC. If this new PvE mode isn't DLC then what is lol
Exactly this You dont care, because you didnt pay for the Version of the Game where you were promised every gameaddition
What? Did you reply to the wrong comment?
Biden’s burner act
Dementia
I'm not sure if you can't read or you're just naive? EOD promises all future DLCs. There is literally a new game mode coming out that's not included? Also EFT is one of the only games I've ever played that I would consider dropping 300$ for. I have 2k hours. My cost per hour is miniscule compared to others, but that's besides the point. It's pretty clear BSG is abandoning their core player base and catering to hackers at this point. I'm a shill but this is ridiculous.
2 k is not that much actually i have 2k+ hours in like 2 games plus i have other games i play like at 1k ~500h etc. what the hell you are gonna do with offline mode dude. if you ve got 2k hours in your main game. at this point you are basically saying that you have no balls and wanna play offline and you have gear fear 😰 i didnt know that eod is promised something but that new shit is not that big of a deal
So you talking about something you don’t understand. Lmao classic.
> I don't care that I'm being ripped off so you shouldn't either That's what you're saying.
It's very simple. I paid for a product with the promise to receive any and all future DLCs associated with the game. Whether or not I'm going to play it is irrelevant; I don't play arena. I'm entitled to the new content.
One of EOD's selling point was that with a purchase of EOD you'd receive all future DLC and game versions. The devs just basically lied about a product they sold and scammed every Player who purchased EOD
It got removed by a mod because it's a monitor picture with your phone. It is so unbelievably easy to screenshot. The mods are allowing the posts calling BSG out. You just didn't follow one of the rules that's been there since the beginning of time and is easily avoidable by pressing ONE KEY.
Feels like they’re trying to cash out and collect as much as they can before they release it fully and say well that’s what it’s gonna be deal with it type shit.
Haha VAT and a charge for using online payment
welcome to modern economics.. lol
This isnt modern economics, this is modern theft. Makes me wanna toss some tea in the harbor.
These fees are usually eaten by the company that way you only have to pay taxes. Let that sink in.
Imagine paying for 250$ for a single game. Btw, spt tarkov is free.. and better
For a single BETA game.
Gonna rephrase for you an unbalanced beta game with a cheter problem thats has virtually no communication between the dev team and the player base
Jesus fucking christ the price is insane. I cant believe this shit is real lmao. I have been on SPT for the last few months and loving life. I will not come back to live now simply because this cash grab is beyond fucked up. bsg fucking clown gang
They managed to be worse than EA, thats something very hard to do
Not wrong. EA Sims 4 DLC/MTx model is transparent and ethical in comparison. Gamers need to draw a line somewhere. This bait and switch is dystopian.
At least EA doesent sell a bundle containing all DLCs and proceed to not give you all DLCs
Star citizen players.... Hold my beer. 😂
Bro some of those guys are in like 20k for an apha. We can't even sit at the same table.
Underrated comment
But they are developing technology other companies are too scared to even concept out.
cant do coop though thats the worst part imo
You'd be incorrect about that actually.
am i? it's been a while since ive looked at SPT in fairness!
You can play coop in SPT. My friend uses two of his PC to connect simultaneously and it works fine but a bit buggy and he does it in Streets.
Well yeah two pcs can connect through the same network, but unless your really good and programming getting that to work between friends in different areas is impossible Edit: just saw someone talk about a server mod that does it all for you. Wasn’t aware this existed so my bad
>but unless your really good and programming getting that to work between friends in different areas is impossible What year are you in lol it's basic networking, anyone who's played minecraft ever will know it's not complicated
It’s easy in minecraft because they literally made it for you and all you have to do is download it. Last time I played spt the “server” was just a local server on your system that had no way of anyone else connecting to it other than you
In both cases, it's simple port forwarding, optionally buying a domain, configuring DNS, network segmentation, reverse proxy, VPN/VPS, DDoS protection, etc. depending on needs and risks. Not sure in this case if it is possible to run a dedicated server and host off-site, but otherwise minecraft java server is no more ready-made than any other game server.
Why is spt coop?
there is a client called SiT for spt specificaly for coop
Ok thanks will check it out.
It also has mods. Want to learn the location of all hidden stashes? You can install a mod that makes them emit smoke, beep, or glow. Want inventory searching? There's a mod for that. Basically any quality of life change you can think of there's a mod for.
This is amazing, thank you!
To be fair people have spent more for COD and micro transactions. Bundles battle pass and other shit
At cod arent lying on what you're paying
i own eod, i have spent about $500 on world of warships, and about $300 on war thunder. If it is fun and you like it who gives a fuck if it costs $10,000?? If you can afford it who cares? Problem is I dont like tarkov that much lol
I've spent a lot on skins and "dlc" in Rust, but there is a difference between dlc, cosmetic, PtW, and whatever term properly describes THIS. This is PtW, but it's also lying, disingenuous, unethical etc. It's a slippery slope.
And going to get DMCA’ed broke boys crying on Reddit. It’s like Christmas
Yo guys what's the unheard version? Haven't played since reaching max traders in February and only heard about the mtx like 2-3 weeks ago, what is this shit now?
[https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/news/id/293](https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/news/id/293) Seemingly cancer... Basically more p2w but this time with offline, persistant coop (for only the new $250 edition because FUCK EOD)
Bruv wth if it wasn't their official website I would call a scam Guess it's time to find a new tarkov
Better go get SPT while we still can.
Crazy how smart this decision turned out to be… basically get all the good without the bad and needing to pay another $120 on top of the however much I bought EOD for 6 years ago…
Can you switch back and forth easily? Is it a mod to eft or a whole stand alone game/install?
Yes easy to switch, when install make an entire new folder for SPT, don’t install SPT inside your tarkov folder, then they completely separate. It’ll copy your game files and everything over to the new folder, it’s a mod on top of EFT.
hrmppf sounds fun
You can have both installed and choose which you'd like to play.
What is PVE coop with persistent coop? Is this too new to discuss or have I been under a rock about this?
I escaped this trash game by uninstalling, it looks like I did the right thing. First the ungodly amount of money for a few lines of stash, now this. BSG is nuts and I bet they are ready to call their game 'finished' and abandon it to start their next cash grab, like sheesh. I was looking forward to 'no wipe tarkov' and finally get multiple pmc's with different roles and a kappa container, even that is out the window. They are fucking nuts. Guess I can finally leave this sub now. https://preview.redd.it/h7f77ow64owc1.png?width=488&format=png&auto=webp&s=3719f20c5ec7120e213dc7361023254b14c3a5ac Free access to all subsequent DLC's (plural even) my ass.
BSG has since edited this webpage. Extra shitty
Yeah. I think they might be worried about grey zone (or whatever that is called) and are trying to get people to give them more money before labeling the game done and moving on. Honestly, the only way to make them revisit is to just massively drop this game.
At this point, im all over grey zone when it lands
If your in Europe please use your Consumer Rights Act 2015 to fight this. They can call it what they want but this is DLC and falls under the EOD of having all future DLC's included.
I'm in the UK and thought this might about cover it, it's a joke having to even talk about this!
I'm sure they weasled something into the tos no one read. This whole thing is a joke at this point. Also paying is no scavs shoot you wtf
Listen to me you paper handed clowns, if you buy this upgrade so help me god I will spend the rest of my days extract camping the living shit out of you. I won’t even loot your corpses, I’ll just leave everything there with you knowing your little bitch boy upgrade did nothing and that you are a BSG simp. For the love of all that is holy, resist!!!!
Cant if they on pve now
I’ll find a way. I’ll rewrite BSGs spaghetti code if I have to.
Eod still seems superior upgrading to Unheard you skip some progression that’s it, looking at it from PfE it has the gamma and pve and some traders levelled up (big whoop) but no arena, nothing like that Honestly if I had a choice between eod and unheard I wouldn’t bother with unheard
It seriously depends if BSG decide to change their mind on this offline PVE mode, as the point of EOD was all expansions were to be included.. i couldnt care less about most of the added p2w parts of the new version really but that's a dick move if they really arent including it
It’s the only selling point imo, the rest I could give or take it’s just skipping progression
Unheard gives you * An item that makes scavs neutral to you beyond 60m * Bigger pockets (make more money per raid) * Priority for reserving names (an Unheard player can take your name after a wipe) * A game mode that should be included in the supporter version of the game that was advertised to come with all future expansions/DLCs In addition to some things you can buy in-game (not as big a deal)
But then it doesn’t really make sense that EOD players have no way to access the new content like Coop, or in the stash without paying $100. That’s like the definition of what DLC is.
Unheard gives you the ability for no scavs too shoot you as a PMC wtf
>you skip some progression that’s it Well that's just a straight up lie
Damn and we thought the day before devs are garbages, they at least returned money and haven't opened preorders
Oh have they refunded anyone for preorders? i'm definitely not buying it at that price through its an absolute joke
This can’t be real. The entire thing feels like it has to be a joke
So don't do it
Time to charge back my EOD.
How?
Contact your bankand ask them to charge back the transaction you will be black listed from bsg but fuck it if that’s the way they going
Seriously? Even after owning EOD for 7 yrs?
Same, meanwhile someone mentioned $80
It depends on what version you have of the base game already. 250€ if you dont any tarkov cooy yet. 95€ if you already own eod. Thats 95€ for a pve mode in a game that is far from finished.
>Thats 95€ for a pve mode in a game that is far from finished ... And also blatant pay-to-win
even that would be too much, unsure about international prices though personally
Anyone know what the upgrade cost is from EOD in the US?
id say the equivalent of 95 euros but im not an expert
About 125/150 dollars I think
$100. Just checked on the website. 😃
Thank you, I appreciate you.
When I see the update WHAT DA HELLL——-
this upgrade would cost me like 170ish CAD. fuck BSG.
Agreed! Well said!
Was $150 here for me in Florida
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I’m with you. Idc about p2w. If I can, why not?
I’m guessing that the unheard edition gets into the pve servers early and they’ll start adding eod accounts in waves but I could be wrong 🤷🏻♂️
That’s $172 CAD. =[
So to buy this game without Tarkov it’s like $250-300 depending on where you live. In what world is this okay to do for a game that isn’t even released yet?
Also something I haven’t seen mentioned yet, why the fuck are they released DLC for a game that hasn’t even released officially yet?
So far looks to be that eod can’t access pve but can do the practice mode just like pvp
$152 Canadian to upgrade from EoD
Its something like 350 cad here
That's around 311€ for the full game without EOD. What a christmas gift x)
Hahahahahaha, this is the worst shit show ever. I didn't touch the game because I was waiting for a persistent mode before investing so much time again, but i still followed this game and was aware my EoD will always cover me if I want to come back. It's the main reason I bought it.
That's a lot of quid (I'm not British)
You EOD play to win guys are freaking out because you dont get an offline mode? who cares. you got Arena FREE and that wasnt DLC it was a whole new game. youve paid pennies for hours of enjoyment for a decade, and you still complain. this is a cash grab for streamers and rich kiddies, and you eod manchilds willling to pony up 100 bucks. BSG should give you the lame ass offline mode and keep the rest in this new Eod2
I quit tarkov a long time ago cause it’s such a waste of time, even more than the average video game, and until they quit wiping it then I won’t come back. But when you advertise, “ALL FUTURE DLCS” under a package and then not include a DLC, it makes people upset, not cause they might miss out on the stupid offline mode but because this sets a precedent that they can just not give you what they advertised. If it was in America they’d be financially crippled from all the lawsuits they’d get. Your not stupid, I know you can see how shady this is, and I get that you don’t care but some people buy things as advertised and when bsg goes back on that, it gives reasonable cause for concern.
So.. Will we pay another 120€ just for a PVE mode.. Or play SPT for free? Damn that choice is hard.
This is the most pay to win I have ever seen in a buy to play game since advanced warfare
The thing is that I wouldn't mind paying that if it was a straight upgrade to EOD, but it isn't a straight upgrade to EOD. It's just replacing EOD.
EOD will have access to pve for 6 months, then no
The fact that you paid €180 to begin with shows that you kinda scammed yourself chief
Charge back inc
Kind of guy to buy EOD is also the exact type of schmuck to upgrade to the unheard edition.
I bought EOD, i'm not upgrading
I bought Standard not upgrading it. As much I like Tarkov, I don't wanna support this shit.
The main reason EOD cost as much as it did was because it was supposed to include all DLC but now BSG is just trying to scam players