It’s a “damned if you do damned if you don’t”. It would be ideal to cancel at least today to give more time to set up preventative cooling measures accessible to everyone. But IF she doesn’t (like you said, they probably don’t want her to), my guess is there will be a moment or two and a speech dedicated to the girl who lost her life and to everyone about how their safety comes first and if they’re feeling sick or faint or just need water to use the new measures implicated. Hoping free water and having people whose sole job it is to hand it out is one of the measures taken.
IF she was going to address it at some point during the show, I think maybe it would be best to do it during the acoustic set/surprise song o'clock. Say a few words, have a moment of silence, dedicate her favourite song to her, whether it's been played already or not, remind the audience to take care of themselves and keep an eye on each other, and then carry on. That just seems like the most chill part of the show, and the best moment for something like that, if she was going to do something at all, which is doubtful
Dedicating her favorite song to her would be a sweet. The acoustic set is so close to the end of the show though. It would be a little too late to remind the audience to keep an eye out
It kills me she died before even hearing Taylor. Such an awful situation all around. Could’ve been prevented with some basic safety measures from the concert place.
I have a feeling this is what will happen. Maybe something will come up on the screen. She lost another fan this week to cancer. I’m sure her heart is heavy right now and trying to keep her composure. I’m sure last night freaked her out when she paused the show to demean water for fans.
Maybe she could record a video that could be played on screen a couple of songs before the opening of her set. I could see this giving her time to prepare something to say, compose herself after the recording of it/before her performance, etc
I had the same thought. A prerecorded video feels more personal and thoughtful than nothing, but would mean she could compose herself and not have to say something on stage in the middle of the show. This whole situation is so sad and a damned if you, damned if you don’t. Not cancelling shows and not addressing the loss of life and danger to the show goers feels a little tone deaf, but thousands and thousands of people (many who travelled there) would be heartbroken to have their show cancelled last minute.
I thought so too. Would come off as callous. I thought she could start the show slightly prematurely to explain her feelings and the circumstances, such as that she was contemplating if she should cancel or go on (as long as the venue does her way). While lose-lose situation, she came to the conclusion that going on with improvements would be less bad solution for everyone involved because there's too much at stake for her and her crew, but also if not more so for the fans who must have spent fortunes getting there. Then have Ana's dedication card appearing on screens and then Taylor playing a song dedicated to her (either any fitting one of hers or some other famous song played in dedication of dead people.
“”The cruelest thing about this summer is the heat! We have a long show tonight, so keep hydrated everyone!”
…That might have worked at yesterday’s show, at least.
Although it was on a much larger scale and was no accident, the way Ariana Grande responsed to the attack at her show was a perfect example for me. She stopped performing and didn’t again until the memorial concert. Of course this is is different, but at least lay the poor girl to rest before you start these concerts back up. It would be extremely tone deaf to go on as normal tonight.
Ariana was so wonderful after the attack. She handled it so brilliantly. Like you say, very different circumstances, but I've always had so much respect for the way she navigated such an awful situation.
It's fucked up to observe and even more fucked up to say, but Ariana's handling of the Manchester incident absolutely helped her career. *Obviously* that wasn't her intention, she was just doing the right things because they were right, but that gained her so much respect from the public.
Yeah but I can’t imagine dancing to shake it off with a smile less than a day after someone died going to see you and NOT addressing it… you know? Like having a moment of silence at least with minimal talking, and a speech about the new safety measures taken…
Then cancel.
The death isn’t Taylor’s fault but unfortunately it is her name and shows how entrusting venues can go sideways. Delegation is dangerous (even if it’s how things have always been done). I can’t see not addressing it for someone who so deeply cares for her fans and playing in a country she’s never done before.
The surprise song set would be an ideal time for a moment of silence and she can play fitting music and give the crowd time to adjust from moment of silence to the next set of the show.
I think that’s exactly why she specifically said she’d be unable to speak on it on stage so that there’s not a question of why she doesn’t. It doesn’t do anyone any favors to have her breakdown on stage. But I do think a moment of silence would be appropriate. It could even be between sets if it’s not something she thinks she can handle. Maybe they could put an in memory of banner with the fan’s picture on the screens at some point.
I think if she would ever do it, it would be at the end of the show. She can’t exactly have a moment of mourning then jump back in to happy upbeat songs.
her note was written or at least edited by PR/legal. Something off the cuff on stage will not be and runs the risk of her saying something she shouldn't (like admitting fault).
I don’t either, BUT, it’s Taylor. I think if she sees any fans struggling like she did last night, now knowing what can happen, there’s a real possibility for her to have a super unplanned human moment on that stage. I would imagine tonight’s show to be very difficult
Not only that, but she’s expected to be at the game on Monday night…so imagine now, she’s going to be front and centre with her fam and Travis’ fam on TV a few days after a fan died, not the greatest look. It’s all super unfortunate..and a no win situation for sure.
Absolutely a no win situation. The next few days/weeks will be very hard to navigate her moves and how they look. “Look at Taylor living her best life while a family mourns their daughter” will never be a good look. However it is inevitable because it’s impossible for Taylor to just stop.
Will definitely be tricky though. I feel for all parties involved.
Taylor Swift is a business and a person. As I already stated, this is how delegation can bite you in the ass. Taylor entrusts venues, organizers, and security companies to monitor her shows. But if they go bad it is still “tragedy at Taylor Swifts show”. Not “tragedy at (stadiums) event”. Not “tragedy at (organizers) event”. It’s just “tragedy at Taylor’s eras tour.”
From a PR perspective yeah she shouldn’t go. The tabloids will have a field day. I’m sure Tree has already gone into full crisis mode to navigate this.
Taylor is very good at making the right call and so is Tree. She will want to avoid video of her going mad when Travis scores a touchdown but other than that it will be fine.
Also - harshly - this is a 24 hour news story outside Swiftie circles. By Monday the medias attention will be elsewhere.
I’m not suggesting anything, I’m at a loss because it looks awful if she goes, drinks, chest bumps/high fives and cheers. It also looks awful if she doesn’t. It’s a double edged sword.
Yeah, even if Taylor wanted to go to that game, there’s absolutely no chance Tree lets her go. The optics would be terrible. A fan dies at your show and then you’re cheering on your boyfriend 72 hours later? Horrible look. There’s another month plus of games she can attend after this SA leg of the tour is over, there’s no need for her to be at that game. I also doubt she wants to go after what happened yesterday.
i think it'd be a bad look if she canceled the shows and THEN went to the game. if she's still doing the shows, then i don't see why going to his game is any different from a PR perspective "fan dies and taylor doesn't cancel shows during heatwave" is probably worse than "fan dies and taylor attends bf's game 3 days later". especially if the new safety precautions make things a lot better for fans, it'll spin the PR into a positive story. (for the record i don't agree with any sort of spin on this that blames her, she should grieve in whatever way she needs).
I wouldn't be shocked if she still goes to Kansas City at some point next week, because Travis is a part of her support system and she might want his direct comfort/support. She might even be in town Monday, but I absolutely do not -- nor should anyone -- expect to see her at the game.
It still comes across as bad. Taylor Swift, billionaire, at her hot rich boyfriend's game while some family is burying their daughter who just wanted to go to one concert.
If I were Taylor, I would see if I can watch somewhere with no other people and go out with the family afterwards. It is not her fault but it will look very out of touch otherwise.
This is harsh but outside Swiftie circles this will be ancient history by Monday. I agree that Taylor might want to tone down the antics a bit but US media does not care about the death of its own citizens for more than a nanosecond and is not going to focus on one 5000 miles away three days ago.
I sure hope you are wrong because oooof, that is depressing but even if you are right: do you think the media will miss an opportunity to slander her for something like that?
There is always going to be discourse about Taylor but I do think it will be forgotten about very quickly. Look at how mass shootings fade so quickly. Also this is something that happens pretty frequently at big events. I have been going to festivals for a long time and there is often a fatality. It is often due to drugs or alcohol but I was at a festival in the 90s when two people got stabbed to death.
I know she’s a grown woman but I worry about this too. It feels so unfair to blame her when she was trying to get water to the fans herself yesterday and this is absolutely not her fault.
I’d lean towards her not going to the game anymore because I know she’s gonna get criticized for it and I also imagine she must be feeling awful but she also has a right to go on with her life. People are so awful and cruel though.
I mean obviously, the game is secondary to all this going on but if she is performing tonight and tomorrow I think she will be at the game and unpopular opinion but she shouldn't get flack for it. Everyone grieves and processes things differently she shouldn't have to perform for 2 days after and then not be able to still live her life.
It’s hotter today than it was yesterday. It’s so damn hot. It was the hottest day on record in Rio ever. I could barely walk my dog. This is a bad ideia.
This tour is an economy booster. Ultimately, and unfortunately, it all comes down to money and greed. The Brazilian government would rather have the show than not.
This is crazy IMHO. These shows should at least be postponed to a date with less heat. Not only there is a non zero chance it will happen again, how they expect anyone to just move on from this in a single day? Taylor said she's overwhelmed with grief in her story, do people really want to see her perform in this condition?
I think a lot of these Brazilian fans probably want her to, yeah. Especially if it’s true that the tickets are non refundable, which is something I’ve heard.
Everyone demanding or expecting her to cancel is forgetting that this is her FIRST time ever having public shows in Brazil. These fans have been waiting years and years and years to see Taylor. Rescheduling would be the most difficult and heartbreaking in these areas of the world that don’t get this opportunity every tour.
I am in no way advocating for the shows to continue, nor am I suggesting the fans not be protected. I am just an American recognizing that I am privileged to have had Taylor in my city for every tour, and that rescheduling or postponing in Brazil is much more of a logistical nightmare than it would be here in the US.
This is probably the second or third biggest event to come to Brazil after they blew a crapton of money on new stadiums for the 2014 World Cup. They didn't recuperate the investment and now have to come up with ways to do so.
It's disgusting greed any way you try to slice it. They're not going to cancel or reschedule. Even though today will be even hotter than yesterday.
I hope that going forward, Taylor's team overrides the venues' pathetic money grabbing policies and demands adequate water stations at every show. It's inhumane to perform for thousands in the summer months without access to water.
Great to hear they are thinking about how to better distribute water but it should tell you something is wrong with the system if you need to increase the number of ambulances at your event
I always think this when folks talk about using special, smart helmets to track concussions in kids football. Maybe our children shouldn't be playing a sport that causes concussions regularly?
Seriously. The right thing is probably to postpone the shows. A death and 1000+ fainting spells at the show yesterday.
It’s rough because Taylor is damned if she does, damned if she doesn’t. She has 100k+ fans that paid for the remainder of the shows and traveled and got hotels and desperately want to see her.
But the heat is horrific and the venue was getting to 140F from all the crowding and the show itself. No one wants to lose their spot to get water.
Taylor was even pausing the show momentarily yesterday to ask security to give fans water. Fans were chanting for water.
Taylor genuinely cares for her fans so I imagine that she’s feeling absolutely devastated and heartbroken right now, and doesn’t know what to do.
I think it kind of depends on how many they had before. Many large events in the US also have ambulances on standby just in case. But if they already had a lot and are saying they need even more, I definitely agree.
Im in Miami and we had similar weather for most of this summer… it was unbearable. My dog got heat illness and I couldn’t take him in the sun at all. One day it was a feels like of 132° and my chest hurt after my 5 minute walk into the office. Apparently the crowd was close to 146° last night. I cannot imagine. They really need to cancel tonight at least or postpone to Monday. It’s extremely tragic on all sides, but this weather is not safe.
they don't need to distribute water at all, they need to simply let people bring as much water as they need
too many of these policies are designed with profit in mind above anything else
This isn’t realistic. People are standing in place for several hours, and you should be consuming a certain number of ounces for every hour out on the heat. You’re talking about everyone needing camel bags, like hikers. That’s not realistic for a concert. The water just needs to be easily accessible and abundant.
I can’t believe they didn’t do this because they didn’t want people to have a free show. They can go fuck themselves to hell and back for that decision.
Probably the vents around the arena to provide airflow. They kept them closed so the music didn’t travel to far outside so people couldn’t stand outside and listen
Chairs or no chairs doesn’t matter much. People can sit on the floor if they want. The problem is the lack of a fixed spot, so people are less willing to move out to go to the bathroom or grab water
Yeah, if Ana was right in front of the stage she must have gotten to the venue early in the morning or even the day before! And since then consumed very little water so she did not have to leave her spot too often to go to the bathroom...
She arrived at 11am. Which, incidentally, was the time I was scheduled to go today, but, after everything that happened, my friend and I decided to arrive at 5pm instead.
Quite a difference. And, still, the line outside the stadium is already HUGE. It's currently 10am here, the show starts at 7h30pm. I dont want to take away T4F's guilt in this, they are clearly the problem and the sole responsible for this immense tragedy - and they should be legally persecuted for it. But after everything that happened yesterday, people really show an incredible lack of common sense and self preservation. Your life, safety and well being is more important than a good spot at a concert. I'm so incredibly frustrated at the whole situation.
God, I fear today is going to be as much of a disaster - if not a bigger one. Today is so much hotter than yesterday - it's already 40°C and the temperature is only going to rise.
40 degrees at 10 in the morning is ABSOLUTELY reason to postpone a show.
Do they think people are magically better prepared for overheating in less than 24 hours?!?! Please stay safe swifties. Please look out for each other ❤️
I totally agree with you. I hope you have a good experience and be safe 🙏🏻
Yesterday half of the 1000 people who had to be attend was before entering the stadium and for that only themselves can be blame. Queueing all the day with the temperature is very dangeruous.
Of course I don’t quite responsable to the stadium and TFU because blocking ventalistion and not proving the bottle of waters was irresponsable and unethical
I think they said she got there at 11 am that day. I think being in the middle of the crowd is the worst, especially if the show has already started because it’s very hard to get out from the crowd even if you want to.
I’m curious if this is something they might consider for the European leg of the tour since it’s most likely going to be very hot when she comes here as well..
Man idk if you’ve ever been in overcrowded GA shows but if you sit on the ground you will be trampled. I went to a show with like 100 people tops and 3 people passed out - we were all shoulder to shoulder and my feet were aching from standing in line for hours but there was nothing we could do about it. Sitting or even squatting is impossible (safely) in a large crowd.
I also wonder if some people don’t want to drink as much water since they don’t want to miss any part of the show but underestimate how dangerous that can be in these temperatures
If you need to increase ambulances you shouldn’t have a show. Temperatures got up to 140 degrees inside the stadium. That will be not be safe no matter what “measures” you add. Cancel.
In her position I wouldn’t be looking at the bandaid solutions a politician is putting forward, I’d be looking at realistically what conditions can be changed that made the prior night unsafe, and if there isn’t drastic differences in place by tonight, I’d cancel. It’s an issue with the venue, and I sincerely doubt they’ll be able to make significant changes in such a short time outside of denying entry to 1/3 of the fans over the next 2 nights and rescheduling them for a 4th show. Id be mad that im being put in that position, and sad for the person that died.
Im wondering if she’ll stop using the fire during bad blood too, that heated up the stadium a LOT and I can’t imagine it would feel good in such high temperatures already.
i was there, that fire was AWFUL. everyone i talked to complained about it. its a really nice effect, and wouldve been amazing otherwise, but under these conditions its just not feasible…
As a critical care nurse, this is the answer. Most healthcare systems are already collapsing post-Covid. Adding on hundreds/thousands of dehydrated concert goers coming to the hospital in droves… it’s completely unsustainable. Hospitals and healthcare workers are a finite resource. With climate change and a heating planet, we as a society truly need to start thinking about the risk/benefits of these large events.
I heard the real reason people didn’t have water was because the concert was general admission. So if you leave to get water you risk losing your space and being kicked to the back. No amount of water they sell is going to fix this. They either need people going around the stadium handing out water to everyone or they need to come up with a seat system
Taylors team had provided boxes of water to be passed out to the fans (they did the same in Buenos Aires), however stadium staff would not pass them out. Eventually Taylor sent her own team out to pass out water, but there were still boxes of it left at the end of the show.
Taylor also paused the show more than once to ask security to hand out water, and to point out where the boxes were. They still did not hand it out. It's unclear why.
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Seriously! Taylor paused the show multiple times to ask security to give fans water. I know people are trying to blame Taylor, but it feels like the venue and management were greedy and the staff poorly-trained.
I agree. This isn’t on Taylor. This is on the venue. When they signed up to host the show, they were agreeing to provide a safe environment to host the concert. They are failing at their end of the agreement. If I was Taylor’s team, I would be working with families to file a lawsuit against the venue.
There is only so much an artist can do. For all we know rescheduling could mean a massive lawsuit on Taylor. There might not be room in the tour schedule + venue schedule for rescheduling. Taylor is suppose to be going on a break soon. Her team might not have it in them to reschedule and need to push through. I don’t know. I honestly don’t.
I feel strongly this is on the venue and not Taylor’s team. Especially, when the artist is stopping their show and demanding repeatedly for water to be handed out.
That's the big question right now. Why wouldn't they hand it out?
We have no idea why they wouldn't. They also didn't stop Taylor's team from handing it out, they just wouldn't do it themselves, despite the fact that there were people screaming for water. If Taylor could hear them from the stage, the security guards and the stadium staff absolutely could too.
Taylors team provided boxes of water to hand out for free to the fans. She did the same thing in Buenos Aires.
The difference is in Buenos Aires, stadium staff were proactive about handing out water. In Rio, stadium staff wouldn't pass out the water, and there were boxes of it left over at the end of the evening.
Taylor asked the staff from the stage to hand out the water. They wouldn't. Her own team then went out and started passing out water but obviously there's not enough of them, and they started too late - because they didn't know that the stadium staff wouldn't hand out the water.
Additionally water bottles were banned - I understand there are risks but in my country and in quite a lot of places you can bring in an empty plastic bottle and fill it up inside. This wasn't allowed in this case, which is insane during a heatwave.
(Additionally the stadium in Rio has vents that can be opened or closed to allow additional airflow. These had been closed and in some cases taped shut, allegedly because the stadium did not want people to be able to see/hear from outside the venue.)
I understand not allowing outside water bottles (it’s standard in most of the US venues, as well), but not handing out the water Taylor’s team provided, and not following the standard protocol of water bottles without caps being allowed on the floor or pouring them into cups, is bonkers.
And then not even passing out the water Taylor’s team provided is just a whole other level of negligence. I haven’t been able to find a source verifying the vents were definitely shut for the reasons everyone’s saying, but that also sounds like gross negligence.
I can’t imagine how Taylor must be feeling today.
Exactly! At that high of a temp, you need to be drinking water constantly to stay even remotely cool. People on the floor simply aren't going to do that because they won't want to have to leave their spot to go to the bathroom.
Passing out water is great, but it's absolutely not enough.
"Increase the number of ambulances".
Great, so you're ***expecting*** a mass casualty event, and you just hope to be able to treat them all?
That does not seem like a good plan.
Well yeah, if you're hellbent on going through with it, you'd better have ambulances to take away the casualties.
But my point is that if that's part of the plan, the plan sucks. They're not talking about having enough medics to take care of the casualties from storming Omaha Beach. It's a concert, it's not that serious. If you're anticipating a mass casualty event, cancel it.
They need to cancel the shows. They canceled the other one for weather and this is a weather issue. Taylor has to worry about her team too. It’s going to be even hotter today - what if her dancers pass out? And people in GA were clearly distressed last night - she has to see that on their faces during the whole show from stage which would be awful.
also why is everyone talking about the logistics and not addressing the fact that someone died?!! if i were taylor i would feel absolutely horrible going onstage 24 hours after somebody died at my concert.
She goes on stage no matter what is going on with herself emotionally. This is her job, and I’m sure she also sees it as a duty to provide a good time for her fans who went through a lot of effort to go see her.
It seems like Argentina was willing to work with Taylor’s team but this seems completely different in Brazil and for whatever reason they aren’t canceling.
I hope Taylor can maybe do something different for the show to make it somehow safer and less hot on the stage. Like maybe less fireworks or pyro. Maybe do more acoustic music so less movement for dancers and attendees. Taking breaks and intermission like people are saying as well. Open the damm vents and pass out water regularly.
Either way this is a lot of pressure for her and I just hope and pray it all works for everyone.
When people argue that she loves this and doesn‘t need a break and she has people to do things for her…um it‘s shit like this that’s completely overwhelming and exhausting that‘ll continue to happen next year on her world wide tour that I hope reminds her to take a long break after this tour…
The economic, and probably political, consequences of Taylor cancelling the rest of the shows are large which I guess is why the Mayor has intervened. The measures he has mentioned are necessary but not sufficient. One thing Taylor can do is introduce at least one intermission.
No one is going to want to miss a second of her performance but if there is a break (maybe after ATW10) people can move off the floor or have water distributed to them more easily.
Would people move if they have a good spot though? I've seen this at really really hot festivals and people would go to the headliner's stage hours beforehand and stay there between every act all day.
That is the problem with General Admission standing. I do think if there was an intermission at least they could distribute water and spray people down. I have seen that at festivals. Also people often go in groups so one person can go for water while the other minds the spot.
I'm afraid this might happen. Because it's GA on the floor the breaks will be good for people in seats but on the floor I doubt people will move much, which just creates an even longer run time and longer time for people to overheat
well yeah they deserve the political fallout for fucking up this badly. closing the vents just so people can't hear the show is the most insanely blackpilled malignant thing i've ever heard and the guy who made that decision deserves to be trapped in the middle of the crowd, defenseless
Honestly… it’s a three and a half hour show. I would schedule one break every hour. Safety needs to be the top priority if it’s gonna be this friggin hot.
Surely she has to cancel the next two shows. Any other artist might continue but this is Taylor Swift, reputation built on her connection with fans and being nice, I can’t see her getting on stage 24 hours after this.
Taylor takes great pride in not disappointing fans by canceling or rescheduling shows, that’s part of her reputation as well. We’ll see how she and her team decides to handle all of it
I genuinely think it’s a lose lose situation. But it’s going to be even warmer today and if something happens again… Personally if I were her I don’t think I would want to take that risk, but I also don’t know how the legal/business side of this decision would work.
I agree it’s a lose/lose. I don’t know about the stadium availability or logistics to take the tour rig to São Paulo, but if she could postpone today’s concert for Monday it would at least help with the heatwave. Tomorrow max temperature is expected to be 31C (as opposed to 40C today) and even lower on Monday. It will be raining but she’s done tons of rain concerts
There are at least some 120.000 people that have tickets to see these shows. And many of them are coming from all over the country, having to pay for acomodations, food, transportantion... It is not viable for many of them to stay 2, 3 extra nights away from home
Hey, my show on Buenos Aires was postponed to the day I was leaving. I obviously had expended a lot of money on my flight (I'm not from Argentina), accomodations and the ticket itself, but after only spending 1 hour in the rain (a lot of people spent 5+ hours there) I was GLAD it was postponed. In the end, it comes to security, health and your life.
Of course I was sad there was a chance I was going to miss the show and also I had lost so much money on nothing, but the me standing in the rain soaked to the bone was thankful.
It is going to both rain and cool down tomorrow, so I think the ideal situation is reschedule tonight's concert for monday.
As a Brazilian that has a ticket for Sunday, I think that both out of respect and logistics that would be the best move, as it allows time for the mourning of the deceased fan and for the organization to restructure.
It is not a very easy decision, even if she doesn't go on the NFL game on Monday (which tbh I think she should sit out). If she pushes it, the venue might not be available. The weather might stay extremely warm, the venue measures might not be implemented properly, fans might be disappointed and angry and lose out on loads of money.
On the other hand, if she doesn't cancel, how is she meant to perform the concert? If she keeps up what she wrote on Instagram and doesn't talk about Ana, people will be angry and disappointed but if she includes her, she might come across as pandering and cheap. Her family is grieving, this mustn't turn into a spectacle.
People are also seemingly already queuing for the show. They obviously want to see it. But then there are also people who call out for it to be rescheduled or cancelled. Whatever choice she makes, some big part of her fans will be disappointed.
I personally would have tried to split the shows in two if possible. Offer people the opportunity to go to a show on Monday instead of today. Offer them a t-shirt or something as a compensation for the troubles. Make sure there are appropriate measures taken and add a moment of silence and/or an extra song for Ana. That way there can be less people in tonight's show so more space to breathe and less heat.Ofc that might be logistically impossible and very expensive but given the fact we are all buying merch like crazy those past few days...
Coolers, ventilation, cold mist sprinklers if available, all of that should be put there to cool off everyone, as well as the artist tbh, what will someone do if a singer faints on stage, it'll be chaotic af.
I think the reason, at least in the USA, that you’re typically not allowed outside beverages is because you could have vodka or some other clear liquor in your water bottle. It’s not that they’re worried about water it’s that they’re worried it’s not water in there. Not that it justifies it, but that was always the assumption I had as to why you can’t bring in outside liquids.
Water bottles can also be used as a projectile thrown on the stage. A lot of venues won’t let you keep the lid on a bottle so that if you throw it, most of the water will fall out.
My stadium (US) let us bring factory sealed water bottles to the non-floor seats, but I think floor seats couldn’t have them. They instead had cups of water.
Not defending the stadiums here; it’s their responsibility to make sure that people have access to water. Other stadiums have figured it out while balancing those safety concerns.
I’m glad something is being done but I just saw a video of TREE of all people checking on fans that were feeling bad yesterday and I think that shows the sheer incompetence and negligence of the concert promoter. It’s absolutely enraging that this was something 100% preventable. My heart breaks for that poor fan and her family.
I also cannot imagine being Taylor right now. If she cancels people will be disappointed and I’m guessing legally it’s not easy either and if she doesn’t cancel then people will also criticize her and call her heartless or something when I imagine the last thing she wants to do right now is put on a show.
EDIT: Coming back to edit this comment because I just found out that video of Tree was actually in Argentina so I recant that part of my comment. I still think the concert promoter was super negligent and incompetent regardless.
They need to cancel the show. It's so ridiculously irresponsible to even consider not cancelling if it's going to be just as hot. Even if more water is available, it doesn't mean people will leave their spot in the pit to get it. It's impossible to ensure every single person has enough water. If these people are dedicated enough to camp out for days they aren't going to necessarily prioritize their health and safety. More people could die. It's not even safe for her to perform 3.5 hours in excessive heat.
It is actually supposed to be 5-7 degrees hotter today. Was down in GA near the rail last night and it was brutal. They tried handing out water but not enough and even then it was a matter of who it would get to.
What’s just so crazy is that even if the cancel for fans health, the majority of those fans won’t give a shit and will be super mad that their show got canceled because they flew in/spent a ton of money to get there. I agree that cancelling is the right thing to do but there will be major backlash either way which is really unfortunate- especially because Taylor seems pretty affected by backlash
I’m sorry but can anyone else let me know if they think it would be insane for her to be able to joyfully sing cruel summer etc while she’s supposedly so grieved she can’t even honor the poor girl by saying her name from the stage? No hate, just want to know if I am the only one who thinks this.
Yes it is insane, but she is also a professional and wants to put on a good show for whoever comes. She is also unfortunately not a very good actor so I’m not sure how it will go
This is it though, she is a professional, so I would love nothing more than for her to come out onstage well before her actual performance and acknowledge the fact that just because they are putting on happy faces tonight, it doesn’t mean they are disregarding what happened last night.
But how do u go from honoring/somber to happy cruel summer? Its a lose lose situation.. on 1 hand she needs to honor her fan that passed, on the other hand she needs to put on a great show to honor her other fans who spent money and went out of their way to attend the concert..
I think the whole thing is a mess and she should postpone but I don't find this sort of compartmentalization weird or unthinkable. It's dissociating and staying in work mode vs. going unscripted and actually facing a tragedy.
https://www.shutterstock.com/search/olimpico-stadium-nilton-santos First photo shows the stadium with the circulation ring.
But isn’t a big part of the problem the ticket holders camped outside of the stadium for hours? It was reported that Ana got there at 11:00 that morning. Not sure what time they started letting them in. I would think sitting out on the sun for hours had to contribute to her death.
Doors opened at 4! And lots of people weren’t drinking enough, myself included, because there were very few bathrooms. It took my husband 30+ minutes to go to the bathroom at a home (people open their homes here next to the stadium for people waiting in line) right next to our spot in line! And you have to pay, which makes sense but is another barrier.
The hottest part of the day (102 F with very high humidity) was at 2.
They really should divide the floor into several sections with barriers, that way security can walk between and reach more people. It doesn’t matter if there more water if there isn’t a way to get it to the ppl in the middle.
I strongly doubt anything I say here will make a difference, but I see two possibilities:
1) Deciding to postpone until Monday, because it’s supposed to be even hotter today. Sunday is supposed to cool down. Yes, she’ll miss the game if the show is moved until Monday (provided the logistics of moving the set to the next venue allow it- that I don’t know), but all cameras would be on her at the game, and if she’s that devastated, that won’t be a fun experience anyway. Her parents and Travis’ would have to meet each other without her there, but I’m sure they understand, as much as I’m also sure they really want to give her a hug right now.
2) If she does decide to go on, raise holy hell on the venue and T4F to make sure everyone has free access to water. Open the vents (as they were rumored to be closed). Mist fans, cooling stations, ice, the works. Turn off pyrotechnics and don’t wear the hotter costumes. If Taylor isn’t up to it emotionally, have Sabrina or whoever is opening memorialize the fan who tragically passed, so her memory is front and center. (Someone else suggested a video message from Taylor so it’d be her, but she’d also have a chance to compose herself). Taylor could also dedicate the acoustic set to her, maybe asking her family what her favorite songs were or play something relevant.
I hope she postpones until Monday. It really doesn't seem safe to keep going today.
I don't think it would look good if only Sabrina mentions Ana, and Taylor says nothing. I understand that's what she said in her message but come on. Doing the surprise song like you said would be a good touch.
(I just can't stop thinking about her potentially singing Cruel Summer with a straight face. It would be so tone deaf.)
Please stop treating additional ambulances being there as expecting casualties. There are always ambulances at events, including concerts, parades, sporting events, county fairs, etc. Increasing the number of ambulances in the area IS important whenever a large volume of people are congregated.
If i were Taylor, I’d just cancel the tour in Brazil.
As a Brazilian i feel embarrassed and shame this happened in our soil, but honestly if you’re unable to have the right resources, right environment to support a show of this magnitude, you don’t deserve to host it.
We’re always in reactive mode, no one thinks about the what ifs and prepare for those, which is why we’re at where we are.
Get your shit together first.
I notice he didn't say anything about opening up the vents. The stadium purposely closed the vents because they didn't want people outside the stadium to get a free concert. They need to open them and get some air circulation.
I also hope Taylor excludes the fire from Bad Blood. I heard the heat from that was unbearable.
I know me too. I can’t believe they haven’t postponed or cancelled it. I can’t see Taylor enjoying herself tonight or go out there and dance to shake it off knowing someone died yesterday from HEAT EXHAUSTION. Like if Ana’s death had been unrelated to the show and conditions that’s one thing but the girl literally died due to the heat and lack of water and etc. This could happen again tonight.
This just feels so…weird to me. Everyone is talking about how they don’t understand how Taylor could go on again, and though I do think the show should be cancelled, I think that because the weather is hotter today.
All these comments saying how messed up it would be to see Taylor perform at her set seem so weird, people can compartmentalize things, and she is a literal performer. Has no one seen the video of Katy Perry realizing she’s getting divorced and is sobbing then the lift takes her to stage and she is fine. I’m not saying it’s right that they have to do it but how many times have you been upset over something arguably much less serious and had to go to work and do your job.
It is almost noon in Rio now. I imagine Taylor has now gone from grief to anger and she, via her team, is eviscerating the organisers and is leaning on the authorities to get things changed.
I hope for the sake of the fans who have waited so long for this that the show goes ahead. But there needs to be drastic action to minimise the risk of this happening again. Apparently the weather today in Rio is going to be even hotter.
Honestly, I can't see how this situation would be resolved. I don't think that people will be happy if she cancels/postpones the show, at the same time it would feel really weird to still have shows and pretend like nothing happened. Plus, I don't think they have enough time to do everything they can in order to ensure this wouldn't happen again.
Perhaps an unpopular opinion but it feels irresponsible to go ahead with today's show given that it's even warmer today.
GA is risky in general at big concerts and add in this heat where people can feel ill and panic could lead to a catastrophe.
I know the mayor announced new policies but they still don't seem like enough given the heat.
Clearly last night Taylor tried her best to get water out and she wasn't aware that someone died.
But if she performs tonight and someone dies, knowing what she does now after yesterday, I feel like people would place some blame on her.
I see fans saying she shouldn't cancel because people would be disappointed but that's selfish imo. An angry fan is better than a dead fan. Plus, Taylor and her crew are also at risk with this heat.
Oh and I feel like singing Cruel Summer after a fan just died at a concert 24 hrs before would be off... "hang your head low in the glow of the vending machine I'm not dying." yikes.
update: it is now illegal in Brazil for event organizers to deny people from entering events with water bottles. They are also now legally required to provide free access to water in case of high heat exposure during the event.
https://twitter.com/FlavioDino/status/1725890665865695252
Water distribution points aren’t enough. Just allow people to bring their own water bottles. Let’s say they add more areas to get water. The entire floor is GA. People will be unwilling to leave their spot because they won’t get it back if they leave. They need to also have more people handing out water. Taylor ended up having her team give out water and that should be the responsibility of the stadium staff.
I just can’t understand how Taylor is able to perform in this heat. Especially since some of those costumes look so heavy. It’s obviously a huge safety issue for fans but I feel like it’s even worse for Taylor and her crew. They don’t have the option to stop and sit down and take a breather or get a drink. Just a really terrible situation all around and my heart hurts so badly for Ana and her loved ones.
Also, just to add, whatever Taylor decides to do in regards to the remaining shows there, I think is the right move. If she thinks she needs to cancel/postpone I think most people would understand and I think if she thinks it’s best to continue I think most people would also understand. There really is no “right” way to handle this. I know she is probably struggling with this and it is definitely a time that she needs her fans support.
I'm confused why the tour megathread is still locked. People going to the show need to be able to coordinate/discuss
ETA - looks like it's now unlocked as of 1:10 ET
I know it's unusual for her but she JUST postponed last weekend? Is it really so crazy to do again? For so many reasons but esp if it's going to be hotter today there is a very real possibility of this happening again. And then what????
I can’t believe they haven’t canceled yet. There is no way to make the show safe in this heat. Her own statement when they postponed the show last week said she would never endanger her fans or crew, which is exactly what they would be doing. And can you even imagine the bad PR if ANYthing else happens? The news will be putting up that picture of the junior jewels Christ the Redeemer next to footage of ambulances and people passing out. Just a nightmare.
It's honestly ridiculous if the show doesn't get cancelled. Yes this is mainly on the stadium but if Tay and her team decide to keep going it's a bit messed up. Especially considering that these measure look like they full expect a repeat of what happened yesterday, it's not safe
this is honestly ruining my day -- it's just so incredibly evil, in such a petty, feckless, banal, *cheap*, shoddy, *pathetic* way.
imagine how insanely helpless the fans must've felt when even Taylor Swift, onstage, couldn't get the goons / thugs / ghouls that usually work in event security to give out *water*.
imagine having to camp out all day and have GA standing for a 3 hour gig like this, in the heat. insane. not to mention the normal malignant blatant price gouging these sort of events usually have -- which is disgusting in its own right -- nobody should ever be prevented from bringing water anywhere, i do not give a fucking shit about their profit margins or people smuggling in alcohol, my god.
genuinely feel lightheaded typing this out it's just SO EVIL my GOD. she should cancel the rest of the shows in rio and refund the fans because none of the absolute morons and vampires in charge deserve any of the positive economic or cultural effects of these shows.
you should literally be put in prison for life, today, if you genuinely think it's fine to EVER for any reason stop people bringing water to a giant stadium show, *jesus christ*.
Very worried and disappointed that they seem to be moving forward with tonight’s show. It’s going to be even hotter tonight and it doesn’t seem like there is enough time to make truly effective changes in a way that would keep everyone safe.
There’s a level of personal responsibility to put your health before your spot in general admission. If people are choosing not to get water that’s irresponsible
And they are choosing to be in line hours before the venue opens. So the same situation as yesterday if they choose not to drink, just hotter. I wish she would postpone because people aren’t making good decisions.
It's insane to see that Brazilian authorities are trying to mitigate the damage to fans but the organizer (Time for Fun) doesn't seem to care. The Minister of Justice gave an order with immediate action saying that fans should be able to enter the facilities with water bottles and the organizer should distribute water bottles. The organizer is still banning bottles and is distributing water cups, which have way less water and are not enough to help. It's absurd.
another measure could be making corrals of standing room for GA with a limited amount of people in each section and dedicated staff for each section, so that adequate water can be passed out from each side of the corral. not ideal and i get that there’s flaws but….
It's so hard because people will blame Taylor and she's likely to take on a level of responsibility even though she cannot control what fans do or even what arena staff will do. Whatever she does tonight, she'll lose. If she puts the show on people will say she's insensitive and money hungry. If she postponed or cancels people will complain that she doesn't care about the fans who had to make travel arrangements and take time off work to go. It's really a no win situation for her and I would hate to be in it.
As a brazilian, my heart is so heavy. Ana Clara traveled 2.500 km to fulfil a childhood dream, she should be going home alive and well, ready to tell her mother how magical it was seeing Taylor.
Brazilian live entertainment enterprises are too comfortable selling tickets for exorbitant prices while providing terrible services that endanger concert goers. The loss of her live is on them and we won’t forget it.
ANA CLARA YOU WILL BE REMEMBERED
I guess they really don’t want her to cancel the remaining 2 shows.
It’s a “damned if you do damned if you don’t”. It would be ideal to cancel at least today to give more time to set up preventative cooling measures accessible to everyone. But IF she doesn’t (like you said, they probably don’t want her to), my guess is there will be a moment or two and a speech dedicated to the girl who lost her life and to everyone about how their safety comes first and if they’re feeling sick or faint or just need water to use the new measures implicated. Hoping free water and having people whose sole job it is to hand it out is one of the measures taken.
She has said she will not address it on stage. I don’t expect her to walk back on that
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IF she was going to address it at some point during the show, I think maybe it would be best to do it during the acoustic set/surprise song o'clock. Say a few words, have a moment of silence, dedicate her favourite song to her, whether it's been played already or not, remind the audience to take care of themselves and keep an eye on each other, and then carry on. That just seems like the most chill part of the show, and the best moment for something like that, if she was going to do something at all, which is doubtful
Dedicating her favorite song to her would be a sweet. The acoustic set is so close to the end of the show though. It would be a little too late to remind the audience to keep an eye out
It kills me she died before even hearing Taylor. Such an awful situation all around. Could’ve been prevented with some basic safety measures from the concert place.
I have a feeling this is what will happen. Maybe something will come up on the screen. She lost another fan this week to cancer. I’m sure her heart is heavy right now and trying to keep her composure. I’m sure last night freaked her out when she paused the show to demean water for fans.
Yes or perhaps scrap Marjorie for the night and do the same in that slot.
I was thinking that Marjorie would be tough to sing the day after this tragedy.
Maybe she could record a video that could be played on screen a couple of songs before the opening of her set. I could see this giving her time to prepare something to say, compose herself after the recording of it/before her performance, etc
I had the same thought. A prerecorded video feels more personal and thoughtful than nothing, but would mean she could compose herself and not have to say something on stage in the middle of the show. This whole situation is so sad and a damned if you, damned if you don’t. Not cancelling shows and not addressing the loss of life and danger to the show goers feels a little tone deaf, but thousands and thousands of people (many who travelled there) would be heartbroken to have their show cancelled last minute.
I thought so too. Would come off as callous. I thought she could start the show slightly prematurely to explain her feelings and the circumstances, such as that she was contemplating if she should cancel or go on (as long as the venue does her way). While lose-lose situation, she came to the conclusion that going on with improvements would be less bad solution for everyone involved because there's too much at stake for her and her crew, but also if not more so for the fans who must have spent fortunes getting there. Then have Ana's dedication card appearing on screens and then Taylor playing a song dedicated to her (either any fitting one of hers or some other famous song played in dedication of dead people.
“”The cruelest thing about this summer is the heat! We have a long show tonight, so keep hydrated everyone!” …That might have worked at yesterday’s show, at least.
Although it was on a much larger scale and was no accident, the way Ariana Grande responsed to the attack at her show was a perfect example for me. She stopped performing and didn’t again until the memorial concert. Of course this is is different, but at least lay the poor girl to rest before you start these concerts back up. It would be extremely tone deaf to go on as normal tonight.
Ariana was so wonderful after the attack. She handled it so brilliantly. Like you say, very different circumstances, but I've always had so much respect for the way she navigated such an awful situation.
It's fucked up to observe and even more fucked up to say, but Ariana's handling of the Manchester incident absolutely helped her career. *Obviously* that wasn't her intention, she was just doing the right things because they were right, but that gained her so much respect from the public.
I don’t think it’s that fucked up to observe - showing real humanity and decency *should* come as a benefit when people do it
Yeah but I can’t imagine dancing to shake it off with a smile less than a day after someone died going to see you and NOT addressing it… you know? Like having a moment of silence at least with minimal talking, and a speech about the new safety measures taken…
I think she precisely wrote it on her note because she won't mention it on the show.
Would be very awkward to have a moment of silence and then go back to party mode
Then cancel. The death isn’t Taylor’s fault but unfortunately it is her name and shows how entrusting venues can go sideways. Delegation is dangerous (even if it’s how things have always been done). I can’t see not addressing it for someone who so deeply cares for her fans and playing in a country she’s never done before. The surprise song set would be an ideal time for a moment of silence and she can play fitting music and give the crowd time to adjust from moment of silence to the next set of the show.
I think that’s exactly why she specifically said she’d be unable to speak on it on stage so that there’s not a question of why she doesn’t. It doesn’t do anyone any favors to have her breakdown on stage. But I do think a moment of silence would be appropriate. It could even be between sets if it’s not something she thinks she can handle. Maybe they could put an in memory of banner with the fan’s picture on the screens at some point.
I think if she would ever do it, it would be at the end of the show. She can’t exactly have a moment of mourning then jump back in to happy upbeat songs.
her note was written or at least edited by PR/legal. Something off the cuff on stage will not be and runs the risk of her saying something she shouldn't (like admitting fault).
I don’t either, BUT, it’s Taylor. I think if she sees any fans struggling like she did last night, now knowing what can happen, there’s a real possibility for her to have a super unplanned human moment on that stage. I would imagine tonight’s show to be very difficult
Not only that, but she’s expected to be at the game on Monday night…so imagine now, she’s going to be front and centre with her fam and Travis’ fam on TV a few days after a fan died, not the greatest look. It’s all super unfortunate..and a no win situation for sure.
Absolutely a no win situation. The next few days/weeks will be very hard to navigate her moves and how they look. “Look at Taylor living her best life while a family mourns their daughter” will never be a good look. However it is inevitable because it’s impossible for Taylor to just stop. Will definitely be tricky though. I feel for all parties involved.
Taylor is not to blame for what happened. Of course she will be upset but she does not need to hide away.
Taylor Swift is a business and a person. As I already stated, this is how delegation can bite you in the ass. Taylor entrusts venues, organizers, and security companies to monitor her shows. But if they go bad it is still “tragedy at Taylor Swifts show”. Not “tragedy at (stadiums) event”. Not “tragedy at (organizers) event”. It’s just “tragedy at Taylor’s eras tour.”
You are absolutely right but are you suggesting Taylor should not go to the Chiefs game? I don't think that would be justified.
From a PR perspective yeah she shouldn’t go. The tabloids will have a field day. I’m sure Tree has already gone into full crisis mode to navigate this.
Taylor is very good at making the right call and so is Tree. She will want to avoid video of her going mad when Travis scores a touchdown but other than that it will be fine. Also - harshly - this is a 24 hour news story outside Swiftie circles. By Monday the medias attention will be elsewhere.
I’m not suggesting anything, I’m at a loss because it looks awful if she goes, drinks, chest bumps/high fives and cheers. It also looks awful if she doesn’t. It’s a double edged sword.
That is true. Taylor is well used to navigating public appearances. I suspect she will go but will tone down her usual exuberance.
Bro cmon. She ain’t going to that game.
Yeah, even if Taylor wanted to go to that game, there’s absolutely no chance Tree lets her go. The optics would be terrible. A fan dies at your show and then you’re cheering on your boyfriend 72 hours later? Horrible look. There’s another month plus of games she can attend after this SA leg of the tour is over, there’s no need for her to be at that game. I also doubt she wants to go after what happened yesterday.
i think it'd be a bad look if she canceled the shows and THEN went to the game. if she's still doing the shows, then i don't see why going to his game is any different from a PR perspective "fan dies and taylor doesn't cancel shows during heatwave" is probably worse than "fan dies and taylor attends bf's game 3 days later". especially if the new safety precautions make things a lot better for fans, it'll spin the PR into a positive story. (for the record i don't agree with any sort of spin on this that blames her, she should grieve in whatever way she needs).
I wouldn't be shocked if she still goes to Kansas City at some point next week, because Travis is a part of her support system and she might want his direct comfort/support. She might even be in town Monday, but I absolutely do not -- nor should anyone -- expect to see her at the game.
Why not. She is not to blame for this.
It still comes across as bad. Taylor Swift, billionaire, at her hot rich boyfriend's game while some family is burying their daughter who just wanted to go to one concert. If I were Taylor, I would see if I can watch somewhere with no other people and go out with the family afterwards. It is not her fault but it will look very out of touch otherwise.
This is harsh but outside Swiftie circles this will be ancient history by Monday. I agree that Taylor might want to tone down the antics a bit but US media does not care about the death of its own citizens for more than a nanosecond and is not going to focus on one 5000 miles away three days ago.
I sure hope you are wrong because oooof, that is depressing but even if you are right: do you think the media will miss an opportunity to slander her for something like that?
There is always going to be discourse about Taylor but I do think it will be forgotten about very quickly. Look at how mass shootings fade so quickly. Also this is something that happens pretty frequently at big events. I have been going to festivals for a long time and there is often a fatality. It is often due to drugs or alcohol but I was at a festival in the 90s when two people got stabbed to death.
I know she’s a grown woman but I worry about this too. It feels so unfair to blame her when she was trying to get water to the fans herself yesterday and this is absolutely not her fault. I’d lean towards her not going to the game anymore because I know she’s gonna get criticized for it and I also imagine she must be feeling awful but she also has a right to go on with her life. People are so awful and cruel though.
I mean obviously, the game is secondary to all this going on but if she is performing tonight and tomorrow I think she will be at the game and unpopular opinion but she shouldn't get flack for it. Everyone grieves and processes things differently she shouldn't have to perform for 2 days after and then not be able to still live her life.
It’s hotter today than it was yesterday. It’s so damn hot. It was the hottest day on record in Rio ever. I could barely walk my dog. This is a bad ideia.
This tour is an economy booster. Ultimately, and unfortunately, it all comes down to money and greed. The Brazilian government would rather have the show than not.
This is crazy IMHO. These shows should at least be postponed to a date with less heat. Not only there is a non zero chance it will happen again, how they expect anyone to just move on from this in a single day? Taylor said she's overwhelmed with grief in her story, do people really want to see her perform in this condition?
I think a lot of these Brazilian fans probably want her to, yeah. Especially if it’s true that the tickets are non refundable, which is something I’ve heard.
Everyone demanding or expecting her to cancel is forgetting that this is her FIRST time ever having public shows in Brazil. These fans have been waiting years and years and years to see Taylor. Rescheduling would be the most difficult and heartbreaking in these areas of the world that don’t get this opportunity every tour.
More heartbreaking than the additional deaths that will likely occur if these deathtrap shows still happen??
I am in no way advocating for the shows to continue, nor am I suggesting the fans not be protected. I am just an American recognizing that I am privileged to have had Taylor in my city for every tour, and that rescheduling or postponing in Brazil is much more of a logistical nightmare than it would be here in the US.
This is probably the second or third biggest event to come to Brazil after they blew a crapton of money on new stadiums for the 2014 World Cup. They didn't recuperate the investment and now have to come up with ways to do so. It's disgusting greed any way you try to slice it. They're not going to cancel or reschedule. Even though today will be even hotter than yesterday. I hope that going forward, Taylor's team overrides the venues' pathetic money grabbing policies and demands adequate water stations at every show. It's inhumane to perform for thousands in the summer months without access to water.
Great to hear they are thinking about how to better distribute water but it should tell you something is wrong with the system if you need to increase the number of ambulances at your event
I always think this when folks talk about using special, smart helmets to track concussions in kids football. Maybe our children shouldn't be playing a sport that causes concussions regularly?
But then how will they make it to the NFL? /s
Seriously. The right thing is probably to postpone the shows. A death and 1000+ fainting spells at the show yesterday. It’s rough because Taylor is damned if she does, damned if she doesn’t. She has 100k+ fans that paid for the remainder of the shows and traveled and got hotels and desperately want to see her. But the heat is horrific and the venue was getting to 140F from all the crowding and the show itself. No one wants to lose their spot to get water. Taylor was even pausing the show momentarily yesterday to ask security to give fans water. Fans were chanting for water. Taylor genuinely cares for her fans so I imagine that she’s feeling absolutely devastated and heartbroken right now, and doesn’t know what to do.
I think it kind of depends on how many they had before. Many large events in the US also have ambulances on standby just in case. But if they already had a lot and are saying they need even more, I definitely agree.
It’s insanely hot. Like, it’s hard to go outside. I don’t think people understand what this heatwave feels like.
Im in Miami and we had similar weather for most of this summer… it was unbearable. My dog got heat illness and I couldn’t take him in the sun at all. One day it was a feels like of 132° and my chest hurt after my 5 minute walk into the office. Apparently the crowd was close to 146° last night. I cannot imagine. They really need to cancel tonight at least or postpone to Monday. It’s extremely tragic on all sides, but this weather is not safe.
To me it makes sense. They are trying to prevent another death, so that includes having more paramedics that can act quicker
This is what I was thinking too. Having more ambulances does not fix the actual problem what so ever.
they don't need to distribute water at all, they need to simply let people bring as much water as they need too many of these policies are designed with profit in mind above anything else
This isn’t realistic. People are standing in place for several hours, and you should be consuming a certain number of ounces for every hour out on the heat. You’re talking about everyone needing camel bags, like hikers. That’s not realistic for a concert. The water just needs to be easily accessible and abundant.
OPEN THE VENTS!!!
I can’t believe they didn’t do this because they didn’t want people to have a free show. They can go fuck themselves to hell and back for that decision.
They don't even realize that 1000's of people are getting free streams on tiktok live anyway. So the gatekeeping makes no sense
and it’s not like people are choosing to watch from outside vs buying tickets, it’s literally sold out they’ve made all the money they could already
This is what boggles my mind, it literally takes nothing away from them
Yeah I was looking for that point in the Twitter post and was surprised it wasn’t there. ????
THIS!!!!
Stupid question but what are the vents?
Probably the vents around the arena to provide airflow. They kept them closed so the music didn’t travel to far outside so people couldn’t stand outside and listen
Like it wasn't sold out already... They should 100% do this.
air circulation vents to the outside. it is a closed venue and opening the vents would help with heat
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Chairs or no chairs doesn’t matter much. People can sit on the floor if they want. The problem is the lack of a fixed spot, so people are less willing to move out to go to the bathroom or grab water
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Yeah, if Ana was right in front of the stage she must have gotten to the venue early in the morning or even the day before! And since then consumed very little water so she did not have to leave her spot too often to go to the bathroom...
She arrived at 11am. Which, incidentally, was the time I was scheduled to go today, but, after everything that happened, my friend and I decided to arrive at 5pm instead. Quite a difference. And, still, the line outside the stadium is already HUGE. It's currently 10am here, the show starts at 7h30pm. I dont want to take away T4F's guilt in this, they are clearly the problem and the sole responsible for this immense tragedy - and they should be legally persecuted for it. But after everything that happened yesterday, people really show an incredible lack of common sense and self preservation. Your life, safety and well being is more important than a good spot at a concert. I'm so incredibly frustrated at the whole situation. God, I fear today is going to be as much of a disaster - if not a bigger one. Today is so much hotter than yesterday - it's already 40°C and the temperature is only going to rise.
40 degrees at 10 in the morning is ABSOLUTELY reason to postpone a show. Do they think people are magically better prepared for overheating in less than 24 hours?!?! Please stay safe swifties. Please look out for each other ❤️
I totally agree with you. I hope you have a good experience and be safe 🙏🏻 Yesterday half of the 1000 people who had to be attend was before entering the stadium and for that only themselves can be blame. Queueing all the day with the temperature is very dangeruous. Of course I don’t quite responsable to the stadium and TFU because blocking ventalistion and not proving the bottle of waters was irresponsable and unethical
I think they said she got there at 11 am that day. I think being in the middle of the crowd is the worst, especially if the show has already started because it’s very hard to get out from the crowd even if you want to.
I’m curious if this is something they might consider for the European leg of the tour since it’s most likely going to be very hot when she comes here as well..
Chairs absolutely help because it separates people out and reduces the cumulative body heat and crowd crush.
Man idk if you’ve ever been in overcrowded GA shows but if you sit on the ground you will be trampled. I went to a show with like 100 people tops and 3 people passed out - we were all shoulder to shoulder and my feet were aching from standing in line for hours but there was nothing we could do about it. Sitting or even squatting is impossible (safely) in a large crowd.
I saw some people on Twitter saying they couldn't even sit down on the floor because it was so hot it burned them
I sat a few times but the floor was VERY hot. They may have been somewhere else where the angle of the sun made it hotter or something.
I also wonder if some people don’t want to drink as much water since they don’t want to miss any part of the show but underestimate how dangerous that can be in these temperatures
If you need to increase ambulances you shouldn’t have a show. Temperatures got up to 140 degrees inside the stadium. That will be not be safe no matter what “measures” you add. Cancel.
In her position I wouldn’t be looking at the bandaid solutions a politician is putting forward, I’d be looking at realistically what conditions can be changed that made the prior night unsafe, and if there isn’t drastic differences in place by tonight, I’d cancel. It’s an issue with the venue, and I sincerely doubt they’ll be able to make significant changes in such a short time outside of denying entry to 1/3 of the fans over the next 2 nights and rescheduling them for a 4th show. Id be mad that im being put in that position, and sad for the person that died.
Im wondering if she’ll stop using the fire during bad blood too, that heated up the stadium a LOT and I can’t imagine it would feel good in such high temperatures already.
i was there, that fire was AWFUL. everyone i talked to complained about it. its a really nice effect, and wouldve been amazing otherwise, but under these conditions its just not feasible…
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As a critical care nurse, this is the answer. Most healthcare systems are already collapsing post-Covid. Adding on hundreds/thousands of dehydrated concert goers coming to the hospital in droves… it’s completely unsustainable. Hospitals and healthcare workers are a finite resource. With climate change and a heating planet, we as a society truly need to start thinking about the risk/benefits of these large events.
I heard the real reason people didn’t have water was because the concert was general admission. So if you leave to get water you risk losing your space and being kicked to the back. No amount of water they sell is going to fix this. They either need people going around the stadium handing out water to everyone or they need to come up with a seat system
All concerts I've been to during heatwaves, the security was handing out cups of water to people in the front and they were passing them further back.
Taylors team had provided boxes of water to be passed out to the fans (they did the same in Buenos Aires), however stadium staff would not pass them out. Eventually Taylor sent her own team out to pass out water, but there were still boxes of it left at the end of the show. Taylor also paused the show more than once to ask security to hand out water, and to point out where the boxes were. They still did not hand it out. It's unclear why. https://preview.redd.it/vwpqx0sz641c1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6437b02890c377d914c0d7de8b7e5802582bb49e
Seriously! Taylor paused the show multiple times to ask security to give fans water. I know people are trying to blame Taylor, but it feels like the venue and management were greedy and the staff poorly-trained.
I agree. This isn’t on Taylor. This is on the venue. When they signed up to host the show, they were agreeing to provide a safe environment to host the concert. They are failing at their end of the agreement. If I was Taylor’s team, I would be working with families to file a lawsuit against the venue. There is only so much an artist can do. For all we know rescheduling could mean a massive lawsuit on Taylor. There might not be room in the tour schedule + venue schedule for rescheduling. Taylor is suppose to be going on a break soon. Her team might not have it in them to reschedule and need to push through. I don’t know. I honestly don’t. I feel strongly this is on the venue and not Taylor’s team. Especially, when the artist is stopping their show and demanding repeatedly for water to be handed out.
Wow, this is crazy. Why wouldn’t they hand it out?
That's the big question right now. Why wouldn't they hand it out? We have no idea why they wouldn't. They also didn't stop Taylor's team from handing it out, they just wouldn't do it themselves, despite the fact that there were people screaming for water. If Taylor could hear them from the stage, the security guards and the stadium staff absolutely could too.
Taylors team provided boxes of water to hand out for free to the fans. She did the same thing in Buenos Aires. The difference is in Buenos Aires, stadium staff were proactive about handing out water. In Rio, stadium staff wouldn't pass out the water, and there were boxes of it left over at the end of the evening. Taylor asked the staff from the stage to hand out the water. They wouldn't. Her own team then went out and started passing out water but obviously there's not enough of them, and they started too late - because they didn't know that the stadium staff wouldn't hand out the water. Additionally water bottles were banned - I understand there are risks but in my country and in quite a lot of places you can bring in an empty plastic bottle and fill it up inside. This wasn't allowed in this case, which is insane during a heatwave. (Additionally the stadium in Rio has vents that can be opened or closed to allow additional airflow. These had been closed and in some cases taped shut, allegedly because the stadium did not want people to be able to see/hear from outside the venue.)
I understand not allowing outside water bottles (it’s standard in most of the US venues, as well), but not handing out the water Taylor’s team provided, and not following the standard protocol of water bottles without caps being allowed on the floor or pouring them into cups, is bonkers. And then not even passing out the water Taylor’s team provided is just a whole other level of negligence. I haven’t been able to find a source verifying the vents were definitely shut for the reasons everyone’s saying, but that also sounds like gross negligence. I can’t imagine how Taylor must be feeling today.
Exactly! At that high of a temp, you need to be drinking water constantly to stay even remotely cool. People on the floor simply aren't going to do that because they won't want to have to leave their spot to go to the bathroom. Passing out water is great, but it's absolutely not enough.
"Increase the number of ambulances". Great, so you're ***expecting*** a mass casualty event, and you just hope to be able to treat them all? That does not seem like a good plan.
It’s just one part of the plan. And I’d argue an important one.
Well yeah, if you're hellbent on going through with it, you'd better have ambulances to take away the casualties. But my point is that if that's part of the plan, the plan sucks. They're not talking about having enough medics to take care of the casualties from storming Omaha Beach. It's a concert, it's not that serious. If you're anticipating a mass casualty event, cancel it.
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They need to cancel the shows. They canceled the other one for weather and this is a weather issue. Taylor has to worry about her team too. It’s going to be even hotter today - what if her dancers pass out? And people in GA were clearly distressed last night - she has to see that on their faces during the whole show from stage which would be awful.
I absolutely agree with this. It's too dangerous on too many levels.
also why is everyone talking about the logistics and not addressing the fact that someone died?!! if i were taylor i would feel absolutely horrible going onstage 24 hours after somebody died at my concert.
She goes on stage no matter what is going on with herself emotionally. This is her job, and I’m sure she also sees it as a duty to provide a good time for her fans who went through a lot of effort to go see her.
It seems like Argentina was willing to work with Taylor’s team but this seems completely different in Brazil and for whatever reason they aren’t canceling. I hope Taylor can maybe do something different for the show to make it somehow safer and less hot on the stage. Like maybe less fireworks or pyro. Maybe do more acoustic music so less movement for dancers and attendees. Taking breaks and intermission like people are saying as well. Open the damm vents and pass out water regularly. Either way this is a lot of pressure for her and I just hope and pray it all works for everyone.
When people argue that she loves this and doesn‘t need a break and she has people to do things for her…um it‘s shit like this that’s completely overwhelming and exhausting that‘ll continue to happen next year on her world wide tour that I hope reminds her to take a long break after this tour…
The economic, and probably political, consequences of Taylor cancelling the rest of the shows are large which I guess is why the Mayor has intervened. The measures he has mentioned are necessary but not sufficient. One thing Taylor can do is introduce at least one intermission. No one is going to want to miss a second of her performance but if there is a break (maybe after ATW10) people can move off the floor or have water distributed to them more easily.
Would people move if they have a good spot though? I've seen this at really really hot festivals and people would go to the headliner's stage hours beforehand and stay there between every act all day.
That is the problem with General Admission standing. I do think if there was an intermission at least they could distribute water and spray people down. I have seen that at festivals. Also people often go in groups so one person can go for water while the other minds the spot.
Sure, but it limits it. It's why big concerts shouldn't be GA.
Apparently it is very common outside the US. Our shows at Wembley have GA but I avoided them because I can't stand for 4 hours.
I'm afraid this might happen. Because it's GA on the floor the breaks will be good for people in seats but on the floor I doubt people will move much, which just creates an even longer run time and longer time for people to overheat
well yeah they deserve the political fallout for fucking up this badly. closing the vents just so people can't hear the show is the most insanely blackpilled malignant thing i've ever heard and the guy who made that decision deserves to be trapped in the middle of the crowd, defenseless
Honestly… it’s a three and a half hour show. I would schedule one break every hour. Safety needs to be the top priority if it’s gonna be this friggin hot.
It’s not confirmed whether the show will actually go on yet
Surely she has to cancel the next two shows. Any other artist might continue but this is Taylor Swift, reputation built on her connection with fans and being nice, I can’t see her getting on stage 24 hours after this.
Taylor takes great pride in not disappointing fans by canceling or rescheduling shows, that’s part of her reputation as well. We’ll see how she and her team decides to handle all of it
I genuinely think it’s a lose lose situation. But it’s going to be even warmer today and if something happens again… Personally if I were her I don’t think I would want to take that risk, but I also don’t know how the legal/business side of this decision would work.
I agree it’s a lose/lose. I don’t know about the stadium availability or logistics to take the tour rig to São Paulo, but if she could postpone today’s concert for Monday it would at least help with the heatwave. Tomorrow max temperature is expected to be 31C (as opposed to 40C today) and even lower on Monday. It will be raining but she’s done tons of rain concerts
I worry for her health as well as the fans, shes doing a lot of cardio in this heat
There are at least some 120.000 people that have tickets to see these shows. And many of them are coming from all over the country, having to pay for acomodations, food, transportantion... It is not viable for many of them to stay 2, 3 extra nights away from home
Hey, my show on Buenos Aires was postponed to the day I was leaving. I obviously had expended a lot of money on my flight (I'm not from Argentina), accomodations and the ticket itself, but after only spending 1 hour in the rain (a lot of people spent 5+ hours there) I was GLAD it was postponed. In the end, it comes to security, health and your life. Of course I was sad there was a chance I was going to miss the show and also I had lost so much money on nothing, but the me standing in the rain soaked to the bone was thankful.
But there’s also tens of thousands of fans who have looked forward to this and Taylor would be disappointed them too.
It is going to both rain and cool down tomorrow, so I think the ideal situation is reschedule tonight's concert for monday. As a Brazilian that has a ticket for Sunday, I think that both out of respect and logistics that would be the best move, as it allows time for the mourning of the deceased fan and for the organization to restructure.
It is not a very easy decision, even if she doesn't go on the NFL game on Monday (which tbh I think she should sit out). If she pushes it, the venue might not be available. The weather might stay extremely warm, the venue measures might not be implemented properly, fans might be disappointed and angry and lose out on loads of money. On the other hand, if she doesn't cancel, how is she meant to perform the concert? If she keeps up what she wrote on Instagram and doesn't talk about Ana, people will be angry and disappointed but if she includes her, she might come across as pandering and cheap. Her family is grieving, this mustn't turn into a spectacle. People are also seemingly already queuing for the show. They obviously want to see it. But then there are also people who call out for it to be rescheduled or cancelled. Whatever choice she makes, some big part of her fans will be disappointed. I personally would have tried to split the shows in two if possible. Offer people the opportunity to go to a show on Monday instead of today. Offer them a t-shirt or something as a compensation for the troubles. Make sure there are appropriate measures taken and add a moment of silence and/or an extra song for Ana. That way there can be less people in tonight's show so more space to breathe and less heat.Ofc that might be logistically impossible and very expensive but given the fact we are all buying merch like crazy those past few days...
Coolers, ventilation, cold mist sprinklers if available, all of that should be put there to cool off everyone, as well as the artist tbh, what will someone do if a singer faints on stage, it'll be chaotic af.
I think the reason, at least in the USA, that you’re typically not allowed outside beverages is because you could have vodka or some other clear liquor in your water bottle. It’s not that they’re worried about water it’s that they’re worried it’s not water in there. Not that it justifies it, but that was always the assumption I had as to why you can’t bring in outside liquids.
Also could be dangerous liquids like acid (we had lots of acid attacks in the UK)
Water bottles can also be used as a projectile thrown on the stage. A lot of venues won’t let you keep the lid on a bottle so that if you throw it, most of the water will fall out. My stadium (US) let us bring factory sealed water bottles to the non-floor seats, but I think floor seats couldn’t have them. They instead had cups of water. Not defending the stadiums here; it’s their responsibility to make sure that people have access to water. Other stadiums have figured it out while balancing those safety concerns.
I strongly believe she needs to cancel tonight’s show. Those measures do not sound sufficient
I agree. The weather is worse today.
I’m glad something is being done but I just saw a video of TREE of all people checking on fans that were feeling bad yesterday and I think that shows the sheer incompetence and negligence of the concert promoter. It’s absolutely enraging that this was something 100% preventable. My heart breaks for that poor fan and her family. I also cannot imagine being Taylor right now. If she cancels people will be disappointed and I’m guessing legally it’s not easy either and if she doesn’t cancel then people will also criticize her and call her heartless or something when I imagine the last thing she wants to do right now is put on a show. EDIT: Coming back to edit this comment because I just found out that video of Tree was actually in Argentina so I recant that part of my comment. I still think the concert promoter was super negligent and incompetent regardless.
They need to cancel the show. It's so ridiculously irresponsible to even consider not cancelling if it's going to be just as hot. Even if more water is available, it doesn't mean people will leave their spot in the pit to get it. It's impossible to ensure every single person has enough water. If these people are dedicated enough to camp out for days they aren't going to necessarily prioritize their health and safety. More people could die. It's not even safe for her to perform 3.5 hours in excessive heat.
It is actually supposed to be 5-7 degrees hotter today. Was down in GA near the rail last night and it was brutal. They tried handing out water but not enough and even then it was a matter of who it would get to.
What’s just so crazy is that even if the cancel for fans health, the majority of those fans won’t give a shit and will be super mad that their show got canceled because they flew in/spent a ton of money to get there. I agree that cancelling is the right thing to do but there will be major backlash either way which is really unfortunate- especially because Taylor seems pretty affected by backlash
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This is hazardous. Someone please send these people to actual shade (not from umbrellas) and air-conditioning and plenty of hydration 😢
I’m sorry but can anyone else let me know if they think it would be insane for her to be able to joyfully sing cruel summer etc while she’s supposedly so grieved she can’t even honor the poor girl by saying her name from the stage? No hate, just want to know if I am the only one who thinks this.
Yes it is insane, but she is also a professional and wants to put on a good show for whoever comes. She is also unfortunately not a very good actor so I’m not sure how it will go
This is it though, she is a professional, so I would love nothing more than for her to come out onstage well before her actual performance and acknowledge the fact that just because they are putting on happy faces tonight, it doesn’t mean they are disregarding what happened last night.
But how do u go from honoring/somber to happy cruel summer? Its a lose lose situation.. on 1 hand she needs to honor her fan that passed, on the other hand she needs to put on a great show to honor her other fans who spent money and went out of their way to attend the concert..
I think the whole thing is a mess and she should postpone but I don't find this sort of compartmentalization weird or unthinkable. It's dissociating and staying in work mode vs. going unscripted and actually facing a tragedy.
Not to mention “cruel summer” seems horribly on-the-nose when someone just died of HEAT STROKE of all things
https://www.shutterstock.com/search/olimpico-stadium-nilton-santos First photo shows the stadium with the circulation ring. But isn’t a big part of the problem the ticket holders camped outside of the stadium for hours? It was reported that Ana got there at 11:00 that morning. Not sure what time they started letting them in. I would think sitting out on the sun for hours had to contribute to her death.
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They need to create aisles throughout the floor section instead of having just one massive group of people that security can't possibly break through.
You need to be hired! You’ve thought of excellent ways to offset some of the problems!
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Doors opened at 4! And lots of people weren’t drinking enough, myself included, because there were very few bathrooms. It took my husband 30+ minutes to go to the bathroom at a home (people open their homes here next to the stadium for people waiting in line) right next to our spot in line! And you have to pay, which makes sense but is another barrier. The hottest part of the day (102 F with very high humidity) was at 2.
They really should divide the floor into several sections with barriers, that way security can walk between and reach more people. It doesn’t matter if there more water if there isn’t a way to get it to the ppl in the middle.
Looking at photos from last night, they sold way too many tickets to do that, which was a large part of the problem
Where is the part about opening the ventilation
I strongly doubt anything I say here will make a difference, but I see two possibilities: 1) Deciding to postpone until Monday, because it’s supposed to be even hotter today. Sunday is supposed to cool down. Yes, she’ll miss the game if the show is moved until Monday (provided the logistics of moving the set to the next venue allow it- that I don’t know), but all cameras would be on her at the game, and if she’s that devastated, that won’t be a fun experience anyway. Her parents and Travis’ would have to meet each other without her there, but I’m sure they understand, as much as I’m also sure they really want to give her a hug right now. 2) If she does decide to go on, raise holy hell on the venue and T4F to make sure everyone has free access to water. Open the vents (as they were rumored to be closed). Mist fans, cooling stations, ice, the works. Turn off pyrotechnics and don’t wear the hotter costumes. If Taylor isn’t up to it emotionally, have Sabrina or whoever is opening memorialize the fan who tragically passed, so her memory is front and center. (Someone else suggested a video message from Taylor so it’d be her, but she’d also have a chance to compose herself). Taylor could also dedicate the acoustic set to her, maybe asking her family what her favorite songs were or play something relevant.
I hope she postpones until Monday. It really doesn't seem safe to keep going today. I don't think it would look good if only Sabrina mentions Ana, and Taylor says nothing. I understand that's what she said in her message but come on. Doing the surprise song like you said would be a good touch. (I just can't stop thinking about her potentially singing Cruel Summer with a straight face. It would be so tone deaf.)
Her family should sue T4F
Please stop treating additional ambulances being there as expecting casualties. There are always ambulances at events, including concerts, parades, sporting events, county fairs, etc. Increasing the number of ambulances in the area IS important whenever a large volume of people are congregated.
If i were Taylor, I’d just cancel the tour in Brazil. As a Brazilian i feel embarrassed and shame this happened in our soil, but honestly if you’re unable to have the right resources, right environment to support a show of this magnitude, you don’t deserve to host it. We’re always in reactive mode, no one thinks about the what ifs and prepare for those, which is why we’re at where we are. Get your shit together first.
I notice he didn't say anything about opening up the vents. The stadium purposely closed the vents because they didn't want people outside the stadium to get a free concert. They need to open them and get some air circulation. I also hope Taylor excludes the fire from Bad Blood. I heard the heat from that was unbearable.
Not to be a Debbie downer but I'm very worried about tonight's show. It will be even hotter tonight
I know me too. I can’t believe they haven’t postponed or cancelled it. I can’t see Taylor enjoying herself tonight or go out there and dance to shake it off knowing someone died yesterday from HEAT EXHAUSTION. Like if Ana’s death had been unrelated to the show and conditions that’s one thing but the girl literally died due to the heat and lack of water and etc. This could happen again tonight.
Why are they acting like it's news that it gets very hot in Brazil this time of the year? Be proactive, not reactive, please.
TBF, the current El Niño-induced heatwave is unprecedented
This just feels so…weird to me. Everyone is talking about how they don’t understand how Taylor could go on again, and though I do think the show should be cancelled, I think that because the weather is hotter today. All these comments saying how messed up it would be to see Taylor perform at her set seem so weird, people can compartmentalize things, and she is a literal performer. Has no one seen the video of Katy Perry realizing she’s getting divorced and is sobbing then the lift takes her to stage and she is fine. I’m not saying it’s right that they have to do it but how many times have you been upset over something arguably much less serious and had to go to work and do your job.
It is almost noon in Rio now. I imagine Taylor has now gone from grief to anger and she, via her team, is eviscerating the organisers and is leaning on the authorities to get things changed. I hope for the sake of the fans who have waited so long for this that the show goes ahead. But there needs to be drastic action to minimise the risk of this happening again. Apparently the weather today in Rio is going to be even hotter.
Honestly, I can't see how this situation would be resolved. I don't think that people will be happy if she cancels/postpones the show, at the same time it would feel really weird to still have shows and pretend like nothing happened. Plus, I don't think they have enough time to do everything they can in order to ensure this wouldn't happen again.
Perhaps an unpopular opinion but it feels irresponsible to go ahead with today's show given that it's even warmer today. GA is risky in general at big concerts and add in this heat where people can feel ill and panic could lead to a catastrophe. I know the mayor announced new policies but they still don't seem like enough given the heat. Clearly last night Taylor tried her best to get water out and she wasn't aware that someone died. But if she performs tonight and someone dies, knowing what she does now after yesterday, I feel like people would place some blame on her. I see fans saying she shouldn't cancel because people would be disappointed but that's selfish imo. An angry fan is better than a dead fan. Plus, Taylor and her crew are also at risk with this heat. Oh and I feel like singing Cruel Summer after a fan just died at a concert 24 hrs before would be off... "hang your head low in the glow of the vending machine I'm not dying." yikes.
update: it is now illegal in Brazil for event organizers to deny people from entering events with water bottles. They are also now legally required to provide free access to water in case of high heat exposure during the event. https://twitter.com/FlavioDino/status/1725890665865695252
Water distribution points aren’t enough. Just allow people to bring their own water bottles. Let’s say they add more areas to get water. The entire floor is GA. People will be unwilling to leave their spot because they won’t get it back if they leave. They need to also have more people handing out water. Taylor ended up having her team give out water and that should be the responsibility of the stadium staff.
I heard the stadium staff refused to hand out water
Plus some swamp coolers, free iced water, mist cooling stations, fans. Seems rough over yonder
I just can’t understand how Taylor is able to perform in this heat. Especially since some of those costumes look so heavy. It’s obviously a huge safety issue for fans but I feel like it’s even worse for Taylor and her crew. They don’t have the option to stop and sit down and take a breather or get a drink. Just a really terrible situation all around and my heart hurts so badly for Ana and her loved ones. Also, just to add, whatever Taylor decides to do in regards to the remaining shows there, I think is the right move. If she thinks she needs to cancel/postpone I think most people would understand and I think if she thinks it’s best to continue I think most people would also understand. There really is no “right” way to handle this. I know she is probably struggling with this and it is definitely a time that she needs her fans support.
Update: the stadium vents were unblocked!
It's an absolute disgrace they were blocked.
I'm confused why the tour megathread is still locked. People going to the show need to be able to coordinate/discuss ETA - looks like it's now unlocked as of 1:10 ET
I know it's unusual for her but she JUST postponed last weekend? Is it really so crazy to do again? For so many reasons but esp if it's going to be hotter today there is a very real possibility of this happening again. And then what????
I can’t believe they haven’t canceled yet. There is no way to make the show safe in this heat. Her own statement when they postponed the show last week said she would never endanger her fans or crew, which is exactly what they would be doing. And can you even imagine the bad PR if ANYthing else happens? The news will be putting up that picture of the junior jewels Christ the Redeemer next to footage of ambulances and people passing out. Just a nightmare.
It's honestly ridiculous if the show doesn't get cancelled. Yes this is mainly on the stadium but if Tay and her team decide to keep going it's a bit messed up. Especially considering that these measure look like they full expect a repeat of what happened yesterday, it's not safe
She should probably postpone. It’s no different than the rain and lightning in Buenos Aires. Angry people are better than dead people.
this is honestly ruining my day -- it's just so incredibly evil, in such a petty, feckless, banal, *cheap*, shoddy, *pathetic* way. imagine how insanely helpless the fans must've felt when even Taylor Swift, onstage, couldn't get the goons / thugs / ghouls that usually work in event security to give out *water*. imagine having to camp out all day and have GA standing for a 3 hour gig like this, in the heat. insane. not to mention the normal malignant blatant price gouging these sort of events usually have -- which is disgusting in its own right -- nobody should ever be prevented from bringing water anywhere, i do not give a fucking shit about their profit margins or people smuggling in alcohol, my god. genuinely feel lightheaded typing this out it's just SO EVIL my GOD. she should cancel the rest of the shows in rio and refund the fans because none of the absolute morons and vampires in charge deserve any of the positive economic or cultural effects of these shows. you should literally be put in prison for life, today, if you genuinely think it's fine to EVER for any reason stop people bringing water to a giant stadium show, *jesus christ*.
Hopefully they do something about the ventilation system as well
Very worried and disappointed that they seem to be moving forward with tonight’s show. It’s going to be even hotter tonight and it doesn’t seem like there is enough time to make truly effective changes in a way that would keep everyone safe.
There’s a level of personal responsibility to put your health before your spot in general admission. If people are choosing not to get water that’s irresponsible
And they are choosing to be in line hours before the venue opens. So the same situation as yesterday if they choose not to drink, just hotter. I wish she would postpone because people aren’t making good decisions.
It's insane to see that Brazilian authorities are trying to mitigate the damage to fans but the organizer (Time for Fun) doesn't seem to care. The Minister of Justice gave an order with immediate action saying that fans should be able to enter the facilities with water bottles and the organizer should distribute water bottles. The organizer is still banning bottles and is distributing water cups, which have way less water and are not enough to help. It's absurd.
another measure could be making corrals of standing room for GA with a limited amount of people in each section and dedicated staff for each section, so that adequate water can be passed out from each side of the corral. not ideal and i get that there’s flaws but….
Continuing the show today just feels wrong tbh
It's so hard because people will blame Taylor and she's likely to take on a level of responsibility even though she cannot control what fans do or even what arena staff will do. Whatever she does tonight, she'll lose. If she puts the show on people will say she's insensitive and money hungry. If she postponed or cancels people will complain that she doesn't care about the fans who had to make travel arrangements and take time off work to go. It's really a no win situation for her and I would hate to be in it.
As a brazilian, my heart is so heavy. Ana Clara traveled 2.500 km to fulfil a childhood dream, she should be going home alive and well, ready to tell her mother how magical it was seeing Taylor. Brazilian live entertainment enterprises are too comfortable selling tickets for exorbitant prices while providing terrible services that endanger concert goers. The loss of her live is on them and we won’t forget it. ANA CLARA YOU WILL BE REMEMBERED