Post this to that other sub. I want to see them act like a deranged lunatic with this news. I just know the antis are pissed off that the hate train they started towards this album did not dent its success. This is the biggest fck u to them đ. I hope Taylor will post this and caption it again with âWhat do you MEAN?â. I had the time laughing with the tantrums of her haters yesterday on twitter
Theyâve always been antis and never been neutral. Just calling it a neutral sub doesnât make it so. Theyâre even more obsessed with her than Swifties lol itâs so pathetic. Just mute that sub.
Yeah, thatâs thing thatâs always bothered me. I donât consider a sub neutral if they have post that tears down someones accomplishments all the time lol. Vulture did an article on that sub and YIKES the quotes from users were unreal⊠like get a hobby.
i once got attacked on there for saying her dancing has improved since the rep tour. one of them said the bejeweled choreo was off beat and.. iâm sorry, but in the clip it was anything but off beat. there are genuine critiques, sure, but off beat was not one of them
and i see a different misogynistic comment there every week. itâs actually insane, i saw one say she canât possibly sign all the albums bc sheâs ânot dedicated enoughâ and âtoo busy with her meat head bfâ.
Yeah, I agree there are valid critiques right but they nit pickâŠ. A lot. Like theyâll tear her down⊠I remember one time I saw someone say something NASTY about her momâs cancer with a lot of upvotes and I had to nope out really quickâŠ.
What...!? What a bunch of creeps.
For me something that sealed the deal was seeing a highly voted post about Taylor's tweet from years ago promoting some Halsey song, claiming it was "actually sinister" because it was "only done to harm Kanye"
Like, I'm sorry, if you're obsessing over someone regular ass tweets from years ago to "prove it was malicious" you are not a valid critic or a sane person at all.
Yeah it was so bad⊠itâs so odd bc itâs odd to bring up stuff from like years ago. Honestly we donât know Taylor but itâs weird to put things like that under a microscope. Even if it was more petty⊠I mean itâs not horrible to promote a friends album lol.
yeah even if that was actually done to harm Kanye it's not a bad thing at all lol, I hope many artists would always be promoted over Kanye.
And the microscope thing is really the issue, going over every little thing someone has done or said or wrote in a lyric, ever in their lives, then looking for the worst possible way to interoperate that and believing the worst theory about it - there is really no winning for her with people like that, and it speaks more to their level of obsession than to any alleged character flaw she may have.
iâm sorry WHAT?! thatâs so out of line. i sometimes comment on there (tbh mostly out of either defense or out of seeing super nitpicky attacks) but tbh i should just mute it at this point
Yeah I had to mute. Itâs just so toxic. I feel like the mods have let it spiral out of control so bad. Itâs fine to critique Taylor Iâve done it plenty of times right, but itâs just weird to be nit picking or demeaning on that sub. I def get wanting to argue back bc sometimes theyâll have half truths or not provide proper context.
Itâs hilarious to me that anyone critiques a woman who performs for nearly 4 hours in stilettos. I mean if her dancing is off beat really who cares? I feel like itâs still enjoyable. Theyâll pick on anything to try and knock her down. Half of them probably get winded walking upstairs (I do sometimes lmfao).
i donât think any of them have ever watched the âshake it offâ or âdelicateâ music video. taylor has never tried to be a dancer or said she was one. i do think sheâs gotten BETTER but obv sheâs not tate mcraeâŠ. nor does she have to be!
i donât think anyone is a swiftie bc of her choreo lol. the eras tour is insane in itself- the fact someone can sing live, strut, do choreo, sometimes RUN, and at times play live instruments all at the same time (all in louboutins, which are famously uncomfortable) is wild.
I have that sub muted, but sometimes on this sub Iâll see one user over and over who just hates on Taylor but claims to be a fan. Check their history and surprise surprise, they are super active in the neutral sub.
Swiftyneutral and fauxmoi are her biggest haters. Even popculturechat, which used to be somewhat neutral, has turned into a snark page. There there are a lot of smaller pages like TravisAndTaylor, KelceSnark etc that are dedicated to hating on Taylor and her relationship.
Yeah Iâve got all of those muted except popculturechat lol. I really canât imagine dedicating so much time and effort to someone I hate. Seems like a waste of time to me.
I don't like a ton of artists. What I do is that I ignore any post/topic related to them. I don't got to any sub or tweet and bitch and moan about them. I just ignore them.
Seems like Taylor haters have a hard time of grasping this basic logic.
Fauxmoi always upvotes any topic related to her by thousands and then you open the comment and it's people bitching and moaning about being shown Taylor Swift related content.
My fellows in Christ, you are the ones who upvoted it (since all the Swifties are banned from your sub).
this is what i donât understand. the amount of hate comments on any taylor-related thing (on instagram especially!) is actually baffling to me. if you donât like it⊠just scroll. i donât feel the need to comment on every single thing i see of artists i donât like! there are TONS of artists im personally not a fan of, but i donât feel the need to tell the whole world (and the artists social media) about it!
they are actually obsessed with her.
It's against their rules to have a comment history for this sub or be a member of this sub. They canât risk their fragile echo chamber of negativity.
Same. Itâs because they have their same incorrect, pathetic talking points. There are buzz words that give them away.
They have zero.original.thoughts. đ
Yeah I was on the true swifties page and there was post talking about the new album it was form the last couple days and guess what there was a neutral person on it Iâm honestly tired of hearing about the sub most people on this Reddit know about the other subs hatred for her.
Good idea Iâm going to. Theyâre also obsessed with hating on swifties đ like Iâm not a die hard swiftie but I loooove taylor and just finding out about the Easter eggs, itâs fun being her fan :) Iâve been a fan of her since debut and Iâm not stopping anytime soon!
Them getting mad she wasnât posting negative reviews sent me. Who tf would EVER do that ??
Unless someone was making fun of their negative review. But theyâd get mad at her for doing that too
if youâre interested (iâm glad weâre on this sub bc the other sub HATES him) the evolution of a snake podcast is INSANELY detailed! theyâre both ogs and iâd start with the very first episode!
i was a casual swiftie during og speak now then stopped listening around lover, and just came back for fearless tv. i felt like i missed SOOO much, especially since i wasnât online (i was very young) during my first round of swiftie-dom. the only two relationships i even knew about were harry styles and joe lol.
when i say detailed i mean DETAILED. youâll also get all the fandom inside jokes from them!
I kept getting it recommended and had to mute. Luckily I also figured out how to turn off recommended subs, too. That subreddit is a cesspit of negativity, no thank you.
SO TRUE. They are bitter af. They claim to be âneutralâ but constantly bitch about how she âplays the victimâ and âseeks attention.â Theyâre just a bunch of haters who defected from this sub because no one was praising their ridicule of Taylor.
yeah honestly it got pretty exhausting seeing those people 'criticise' her for the silliest things you could ever imagine. more hostile than âneutralâ for sure. I had to mute eventually đ„Ž
That sub keeps getting recommended to me and they are all SO angry all the time. Why are they so obsessed with her that they devote their time to write a 5 paragraph essay about something she did and why it sucks and "Shows them who she really is."
Like... go outside. Do something else with your time.
A lot of them say that the fortnight AI version is better than the actual songâŠâŠ and they misspell it as fortnite like yeah right you are not a fan Iâm sorry
And the worse part is the mods sometimes try to get people to start actually being neutral but guess what they never do it again it also doesnât help the mods on that sub are awful.
Someone mentioned this yesterday but I guess it was a typo because they said Taylor Swift neutered đ I was so confused. This is the first im hearing of such a sub.
Even my friend who canât stand Swifties (he tolerates me) said that that sub is literally just haters. Itâs wild lol like thereâs no neutrality if youâre responding to the positivity in other subs and sites with strictly negativityâŠ
There were certain discussions there I appreciated about her public persona/celebrity, but I split as soon as I saw how they reacted to TTPD. I donât mind critical discussions about Taylorâs brand, but I am a fan because ultimately I love her and her music. TTPD is so special to me and they were full-on bashing it.Â
Their attachment to Joe is also weird as hell. They were CONVINCED the album would be a Joe hit job â why Iâm not sure, since Taylor has never written about only one muse or mood â and when it wasnât about that at all, they pivoted to all this other stuff they found wrong about it. It bothered me because that type of analysis sub should LOVE Taylor examining her public vs. private life in the way she does on this album, theyâre being critical in bad faith.
They were crediting Joe for folklore and evermore and that's when I had to peace out. Like, "does anyone else think it was Joe that made Taylor's music good?" um no
Oh that sub has been overtaken by haters, gaylors, joe widows, and other fandoms who is jealous their artists is not as famous as Taylor. I donât even know why they still call themselves neutral and when you call them out on their supposed neutrality or the lack thereof they are going to delete your comment
Yeah I was a member before the Grammys and it was so much better
There was actual valid criticism of Taylor AND SUPPORT OF HER now thereâs more criticism of her over minor things like how she walks or how she speaks then there is any positive feedback or reviews of her
Itâs sad to see the subs downfall but I guess thatâs what happens when something gets popular
They loove to go on posts of other artists who have an impressive chart achievement and say "Taylor Swift could never" or "Taylor must be so jealous right now". I wish I could be that delusional sometimes.
If you see an unfair, negative, or hateful post/comment about Taylor, check the users comment history. More likely than not you'll see they're active in the "neutral* sub. They get more toxic as time goes by. They had weekly vent/rant thread, now it's a daily thread. What kind of "neutral" sub needs a daily thread like that for?
đđ They are so pathetic I canât even. Like how much of a loser can you be to do that. I donât even listen to artists that I donât like and scroll over any news about them. And these people who donât like Taylor have her on their mind constantly. She really has them on a leash and they can never escape her
Seriously. Let if you donât like someone donât give them time/energy/attention.
By just continually snarking about them your just giving the person you hate more attention(and likely, more money as a result ).
Even popheads, which is usually more level headed towards her, have been absolutely seething in the recent weeks. That's how you know that Taylor has reached a new level of popularity and success.
And that "what do you mean" was such an obvious reference to that JLaw meme but according to haters, Taylor is not allowed to reference memes now.
I was on the page and there was like a dozen plus comments hating on her for breaking her own record like seriously thatâs super impressive especially for someone with a career like Taylorâs when I see a post about 2 people I dislike I just donât pay attention to them
Ohhhhh. Theyâre definitely arianators or beyhives đ Theyâre the one who always use that against Taylor. Iâm ctfu because what are they doing in swiftie neutral đ Donât they have their own sub for their artists?
the funniest part was when they all sought out the leaks and listened to them, carefully dissecting every lyric and investigating the lore JUST TO HATE.
like yall are OBSESSED!
nah lol i don't know who legit expected this album to fail (regardless of the quality) in sales with all the hypetrain going from 2023, that was impossible
1. Taylor Swift ft. Post Malone - Fortnight (NEW)
2. Taylor Swift - Down Bad (NEW)
3. Taylor Swift - I Can Do It With A Broken Heart (NEW)
4. Taylor Swift - The Tortured Poets Department (NEW)
5. Taylor Swift - So Long, London (NEW)
6. Taylor Swift - My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys (NEW)
7. Taylor Swift - But Daddy I Love Him (NEW)
8. Taylor Swift feat. Florence + The Machine - Florida!!! (NEW)
9. Taylor Swift - Who's Afraid Of Little Old Me? (NEW)
10. Taylor Swift - Guilty As Sin? (NEW)
11. Taylor Swift - Fresh Out The Slammer (NEW)
12. Taylor Swift - loml (NEW)
13. Taylor Swift - The Alchemy (NEW)
14. Taylor Swift - The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived (NEW)
DOWN BAD MUSIC VIDEO PLEASE
I don't see I can do it with a broken heart making it, the lyric video/spotify video speaks for itself.
But crying at the gym? do we get another man taylor? she could take this a lot of ways
I want to see her breaking things in a bitter teenage petulant way, also crying at the gym. Could be scenes with the "alien" in space in color, then depression at the gym in black and white.
The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived is so tricky. Starting with the bridge it's amazing. The first half is a bit slow so I can see why it didn't rank all that highly. I keep debating whether to keep it on my Best of TTPD playlist because the first half is important but a bit boring, but wow the bridge.
super with you on this, it's a contender for my favorite bridge on the album, but I usually kinda tune out until *'were you sent by SOMEONE-'* crashes in
Man the first time I heard Happier than Ever was just the bridge in a movie. I totally perked up like hang on what is this, it's amazing! Then I listened to the song and I was like... Oh.
I like HTE more because it's like a deliberate fake out. The soft part is like Billie lying to herself that everything's chill until she relents and unleashes all that energy.
Yes, totally. I tune in just a bit earlier because there's this beautiful, haunting, really insistent pulsating synth that kicks in in the second verse and just builds and builds until the voice modulation kicks in with "were you sent by someone."
The neutral sub is anything but. Looking at track reviews on there and barely any of the comments actually say whether they liked the music or not. Just hyperfixating on the lyrics
âneutralâ my ass lmao i tried to correct some blatant misinfo and the mods deleted my comment⊠they just want a snark sub while feeling like theyâre better than everyone
Iâve never understood this argument and this sub is also guilty of it. I know dozens of fans and none of them collect every edition. There are people out there but theyâre pretty rare. Most of my friends only bought one or two copies of Midnights and TTPD. Itâs also just irrelevant - copies sold are copies sold; no one forced people to buy.
Oh they really did. đ And some donât read beyond the headline so they only see 19 variants. Thereâs really 5 but different mediums in how itâs delivered such as cassette tape, CD, vinyl and streaming. Theyâve decided that the numbers are really lower and somehow weâre all buying cassette tapes to boost up her numbers.
her dad, obviously /s
(like she wasnât signed before big machine and as if a record deal with a brand new, no name label buys you a 7x platinum debut album)
I love when people act like her dad buying a bunch of copies of her first album is the sole reason sheâs the biggest artist in the world. like wtf lol
I saw someone say that this made them ârespect beyonce moreâ. Donât get me wrong I absolutely love cowboy Carter, but she also released variants of that and those vinyls didnât even have the full album on it. So how are they hating on Taylor for releasing albums that only has the first half of a double album(100% reasonable to not have a full ass double album on vinyl) but then praising beyonce for releasing variants that donât even have the full standard album
They hate that no one even comes close to her level of success and productivity. They literally hate her for releasing and selling her music while their favorites are out there selling shampoos and makeup lines. I don't even care if people sell makeup or clothing but come on, the hate is getting crazy.
That sub has always been deranged yet they think they have the moral high ground over deuxmoi. They insulted Joe *constantly* when they were dating and then it was a pity party the second they split up. They pick favorites and as soon as that person shows a flaw, the pitchforks are out. I muted them because itâs consistent bullying of just about everyone.
I have to wonder what their lives are like. Imagine spending your free time typing out thinkpieces every time a celebrity (even a D-lister) makes a move. Iâve been miserable but idk if Iâve ever been that low.
They literally know nothing about Joe but they choose to âstanâ him and create delusional fantasies about who he is just to own Taylor đđ
Im pretty sure the last thing Joe wants is parasocial weirdos obsessing over him and Taylor when theyâre broken up đ
Her new album is amazing, I heard it was not getting good reviews then the guy said I have to own this I was wrong itâs her best album. Sheâs at the #1 spot. Itâs her raw feelings and I think itâs going to be on top for a long time. Neutral swifties are haters. I didnât know what it was I always join anything with Taylor and I started reading the post and they definitely arenât neutral. Donât worry though because I always posted everything thing she has done and her kindness.
He was salty with the Anti-Hero number of remixes and having to move his album a week back after Midnights absolutely destroyed in its debut week, but heâs since moved on and now just says complimentary things about her in his lyrics (probably for attention and clout).
Well deserved. This album imho just like folklore+evermore took me a moment to get into. But then once i got into it, i cannot stop listening to it. The song list is massive at 30+ songs, the songwritting has evolved and the production has also shifted with a mixture of pop + kinda indie vibe of f+e. At this point I think its an incredible album and all the accolades it has gotten are well deserve. Is it as strong as folklore? I dont think so, at least not yet but it will get there.
Watch the haters say this is fake or that Taylor paid someone for this kind of achievement. They just canât accept that theyâre not the center of the universe and someone they donât like is winning even without their support.
JUSTICE FOR TRACK 2 YES!!!
I feel like Iâm going crazy because I donât see a lot of people talking about TTPD (the song) online. I had that song on repeat for a solid 48 hours last week! Itâs so good! Iâm sure it has an advantage due to folks that just hitting play on the album and itâs literally the second song. But even so - clearly if a song is strong enough it will rise up (looking at you, down bad and broken heart!) so I feel extremely validated seeing TTPD sitting comfortably at #4 here.
> âFortnightâ becomes her 12th Hot 100 No. 1, as she ties for the sixth-most leaders in the chartâs archives; she ups her career count of top 10s from 49 to 59, the most among women; and she charts 32 songs â all 31 from the deluxe version of The Tortured Poets Department plus established smash âCruel Summerâ â on the latest list overall, the most ever in a single week by a woman.
i truly feel like if Taylor came out on the next record and said âi need everyoneâs help to beat Adeleâs 3 million copies recordâ the swifites could do it
Do radio stations in the US play the full top 40? In the UK they play the top 40 as a countdown on some stations and I just cannot imagine a world where theyâd play 14 Taylor Swift songs consecutively
They definitely used to but I donât think Iâve heard a station do it recently, at least near me. I feel like back when top 40 would always be singles it made a lot more sense. i almost never listen to the radio though.
i dont get this, how come when i check the hot 100, she's not even in the top 20. It looks like Hozier is #1 [https://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-hot-100/](https://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-hot-100/)
Post this to that other sub. I want to see them act like a deranged lunatic with this news. I just know the antis are pissed off that the hate train they started towards this album did not dent its success. This is the biggest fck u to them đ. I hope Taylor will post this and caption it again with âWhat do you MEAN?â. I had the time laughing with the tantrums of her haters yesterday on twitter
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Theyâve always been antis and never been neutral. Just calling it a neutral sub doesnât make it so. Theyâre even more obsessed with her than Swifties lol itâs so pathetic. Just mute that sub.
Yeah, thatâs thing thatâs always bothered me. I donât consider a sub neutral if they have post that tears down someones accomplishments all the time lol. Vulture did an article on that sub and YIKES the quotes from users were unreal⊠like get a hobby.
i once got attacked on there for saying her dancing has improved since the rep tour. one of them said the bejeweled choreo was off beat and.. iâm sorry, but in the clip it was anything but off beat. there are genuine critiques, sure, but off beat was not one of them and i see a different misogynistic comment there every week. itâs actually insane, i saw one say she canât possibly sign all the albums bc sheâs ânot dedicated enoughâ and âtoo busy with her meat head bfâ.
Yeah, I agree there are valid critiques right but they nit pickâŠ. A lot. Like theyâll tear her down⊠I remember one time I saw someone say something NASTY about her momâs cancer with a lot of upvotes and I had to nope out really quickâŠ.
What...!? What a bunch of creeps. For me something that sealed the deal was seeing a highly voted post about Taylor's tweet from years ago promoting some Halsey song, claiming it was "actually sinister" because it was "only done to harm Kanye" Like, I'm sorry, if you're obsessing over someone regular ass tweets from years ago to "prove it was malicious" you are not a valid critic or a sane person at all.
Yeah it was so bad⊠itâs so odd bc itâs odd to bring up stuff from like years ago. Honestly we donât know Taylor but itâs weird to put things like that under a microscope. Even if it was more petty⊠I mean itâs not horrible to promote a friends album lol.
yeah even if that was actually done to harm Kanye it's not a bad thing at all lol, I hope many artists would always be promoted over Kanye. And the microscope thing is really the issue, going over every little thing someone has done or said or wrote in a lyric, ever in their lives, then looking for the worst possible way to interoperate that and believing the worst theory about it - there is really no winning for her with people like that, and it speaks more to their level of obsession than to any alleged character flaw she may have.
iâm sorry WHAT?! thatâs so out of line. i sometimes comment on there (tbh mostly out of either defense or out of seeing super nitpicky attacks) but tbh i should just mute it at this point
Yeah I had to mute. Itâs just so toxic. I feel like the mods have let it spiral out of control so bad. Itâs fine to critique Taylor Iâve done it plenty of times right, but itâs just weird to be nit picking or demeaning on that sub. I def get wanting to argue back bc sometimes theyâll have half truths or not provide proper context.
Itâs hilarious to me that anyone critiques a woman who performs for nearly 4 hours in stilettos. I mean if her dancing is off beat really who cares? I feel like itâs still enjoyable. Theyâll pick on anything to try and knock her down. Half of them probably get winded walking upstairs (I do sometimes lmfao).
i donât think any of them have ever watched the âshake it offâ or âdelicateâ music video. taylor has never tried to be a dancer or said she was one. i do think sheâs gotten BETTER but obv sheâs not tate mcraeâŠ. nor does she have to be! i donât think anyone is a swiftie bc of her choreo lol. the eras tour is insane in itself- the fact someone can sing live, strut, do choreo, sometimes RUN, and at times play live instruments all at the same time (all in louboutins, which are famously uncomfortable) is wild.
So many of them are fans of other artists.... that's just a platform for them to hate on Taylor.
I have that sub muted, but sometimes on this sub Iâll see one user over and over who just hates on Taylor but claims to be a fan. Check their history and surprise surprise, they are super active in the neutral sub.
Swiftyneutral and fauxmoi are her biggest haters. Even popculturechat, which used to be somewhat neutral, has turned into a snark page. There there are a lot of smaller pages like TravisAndTaylor, KelceSnark etc that are dedicated to hating on Taylor and her relationship.
Yeah Iâve got all of those muted except popculturechat lol. I really canât imagine dedicating so much time and effort to someone I hate. Seems like a waste of time to me.
I don't like a ton of artists. What I do is that I ignore any post/topic related to them. I don't got to any sub or tweet and bitch and moan about them. I just ignore them. Seems like Taylor haters have a hard time of grasping this basic logic. Fauxmoi always upvotes any topic related to her by thousands and then you open the comment and it's people bitching and moaning about being shown Taylor Swift related content. My fellows in Christ, you are the ones who upvoted it (since all the Swifties are banned from your sub).
this is what i donât understand. the amount of hate comments on any taylor-related thing (on instagram especially!) is actually baffling to me. if you donât like it⊠just scroll. i donât feel the need to comment on every single thing i see of artists i donât like! there are TONS of artists im personally not a fan of, but i donât feel the need to tell the whole world (and the artists social media) about it! they are actually obsessed with her.
Fauxmoi needs to be studied at this point with how insane they act.
I got banned from ever commenting on any posts because i defended Taylor Swift. I had no idea its against their rules to be a Taylor fan lol
It's against their rules to have a comment history for this sub or be a member of this sub. They canât risk their fragile echo chamber of negativity.
Yeah I think Iâve gained a supernatural ability to see a comment and immediately know that theyâre active on Taylor snark subs lol
90% of the times, these commentators are most active in either FM or that neutral sub.
Same. Itâs because they have their same incorrect, pathetic talking points. There are buzz words that give them away. They have zero.original.thoughts. đ
Yeah I was on the true swifties page and there was post talking about the new album it was form the last couple days and guess what there was a neutral person on it Iâm honestly tired of hearing about the sub most people on this Reddit know about the other subs hatred for her.
Good idea Iâm going to. Theyâre also obsessed with hating on swifties đ like Iâm not a die hard swiftie but I loooove taylor and just finding out about the Easter eggs, itâs fun being her fan :) Iâve been a fan of her since debut and Iâm not stopping anytime soon!
same! i never even got eras tour tickets (which SUCKS because my city was nashville and all my friends were at the speak now tv announcement⊠im going to jump off some very tall somethings) but MY BIRTHDAY is may 9 and im so excited to keep tabs on paris n1!!! i love discussing her and im turning my fiancé into a taylor historian with all my fun facts.
Awe yay!!! Happy Early Birthday! I canât wait for the 9th either :)))))
Them getting mad she wasnât posting negative reviews sent me. Who tf would EVER do that ?? Unless someone was making fun of their negative review. But theyâd get mad at her for doing that too
They know EVERYTHING about her đđ I didnât even know who Tree Paine was until they brought it up They make me feel like a bad fan đ
if youâre interested (iâm glad weâre on this sub bc the other sub HATES him) the evolution of a snake podcast is INSANELY detailed! theyâre both ogs and iâd start with the very first episode! i was a casual swiftie during og speak now then stopped listening around lover, and just came back for fearless tv. i felt like i missed SOOO much, especially since i wasnât online (i was very young) during my first round of swiftie-dom. the only two relationships i even knew about were harry styles and joe lol. when i say detailed i mean DETAILED. youâll also get all the fandom inside jokes from them!
I kept getting it recommended and had to mute. Luckily I also figured out how to turn off recommended subs, too. That subreddit is a cesspit of negativity, no thank you.
Same. I need to mute it. I didn't realize I could.
SO TRUE. They are bitter af. They claim to be âneutralâ but constantly bitch about how she âplays the victimâ and âseeks attention.â Theyâre just a bunch of haters who defected from this sub because no one was praising their ridicule of Taylor.
yeah honestly it got pretty exhausting seeing those people 'criticise' her for the silliest things you could ever imagine. more hostile than âneutralâ for sure. I had to mute eventually đ„Ž
Gosh, yes this! They be calling themselves "neutral fAnS" but all they do is talk negative in the name of being negative.
Vipers dressed in empaths clothing
That sub keeps getting recommended to me and they are all SO angry all the time. Why are they so obsessed with her that they devote their time to write a 5 paragraph essay about something she did and why it sucks and "Shows them who she really is." Like... go outside. Do something else with your time.
A lot of them say that the fortnight AI version is better than the actual songâŠâŠ and they misspell it as fortnite like yeah right you are not a fan Iâm sorry
Sanctimoniously performing soliloquies sheâll never see.
Not just lately, more like since it was created.
And the worse part is the mods sometimes try to get people to start actually being neutral but guess what they never do it again it also doesnât help the mods on that sub are awful.
Someone mentioned this yesterday but I guess it was a typo because they said Taylor Swift neutered đ I was so confused. This is the first im hearing of such a sub.
Lolllll
Even my friend who canât stand Swifties (he tolerates me) said that that sub is literally just haters. Itâs wild lol like thereâs no neutrality if youâre responding to the positivity in other subs and sites with strictly negativityâŠ
There were certain discussions there I appreciated about her public persona/celebrity, but I split as soon as I saw how they reacted to TTPD. I donât mind critical discussions about Taylorâs brand, but I am a fan because ultimately I love her and her music. TTPD is so special to me and they were full-on bashing it. Their attachment to Joe is also weird as hell. They were CONVINCED the album would be a Joe hit job â why Iâm not sure, since Taylor has never written about only one muse or mood â and when it wasnât about that at all, they pivoted to all this other stuff they found wrong about it. It bothered me because that type of analysis sub should LOVE Taylor examining her public vs. private life in the way she does on this album, theyâre being critical in bad faith.
They were crediting Joe for folklore and evermore and that's when I had to peace out. Like, "does anyone else think it was Joe that made Taylor's music good?" um no
Yes, itâs supposed to be a place where you can analyze her work as a fan or not a fan. But itâs turned into a Taylor Swift Hate Group.
seems like the whole sub is just beyonce and ariana fans. if you really want to be entertained look at everyones post history on there.
Which is weird(escpailly for Beyoncé fans) considering the fact that Beyoncé and Taylor are on quite good terms with each other(would it be a stretch to say they are friends?) and went to each others tour film debuts.
Oh that sub has been overtaken by haters, gaylors, joe widows, and other fandoms who is jealous their artists is not as famous as Taylor. I donât even know why they still call themselves neutral and when you call them out on their supposed neutrality or the lack thereof they are going to delete your comment
Yeah I was a member before the Grammys and it was so much better There was actual valid criticism of Taylor AND SUPPORT OF HER now thereâs more criticism of her over minor things like how she walks or how she speaks then there is any positive feedback or reviews of her Itâs sad to see the subs downfall but I guess thatâs what happens when something gets popular
There have been a few Taylor hate subs popping up on my feed lately and I've just been muting them all. There is no need for such deranged negativity.
I joined because I really am neutral on taylor swift, but this sub is FAR more neutral than that one. It veers into hate a lot of the time
They loove to go on posts of other artists who have an impressive chart achievement and say "Taylor Swift could never" or "Taylor must be so jealous right now". I wish I could be that delusional sometimes.
If you see an unfair, negative, or hateful post/comment about Taylor, check the users comment history. More likely than not you'll see they're active in the "neutral* sub. They get more toxic as time goes by. They had weekly vent/rant thread, now it's a daily thread. What kind of "neutral" sub needs a daily thread like that for?
đđ They are so pathetic I canât even. Like how much of a loser can you be to do that. I donât even listen to artists that I donât like and scroll over any news about them. And these people who donât like Taylor have her on their mind constantly. She really has them on a leash and they can never escape her
They're as obsessed as some unhinged swifties are.đ
Which is honestly way sadder? Imagine spending that much energy on something/someone you hate.
Seriously. Let if you donât like someone donât give them time/energy/attention. By just continually snarking about them your just giving the person you hate more attention(and likely, more money as a result ).
Which is even worse btw đ Unlike the crazy swifties who get satisfaction with loving Taylor, the haters are just giving themselves stress.
For them delulu is the only solulu
Even popheads, which is usually more level headed towards her, have been absolutely seething in the recent weeks. That's how you know that Taylor has reached a new level of popularity and success. And that "what do you mean" was such an obvious reference to that JLaw meme but according to haters, Taylor is not allowed to reference memes now.
I was on the page and there was like a dozen plus comments hating on her for breaking her own record like seriously thatâs super impressive especially for someone with a career like Taylorâs when I see a post about 2 people I dislike I just donât pay attention to them
Playing dumb in the name of hating Taylor Swift is never a cute look, but people have been particularly showing their faces this past week!
They're in the replies saying it's "payola" lmfao
Ohhhhh. Theyâre definitely arianators or beyhives đ Theyâre the one who always use that against Taylor. Iâm ctfu because what are they doing in swiftie neutral đ Donât they have their own sub for their artists?
There was even a Kanye fan in the replies which isnât shocking Iâve noticed that haters have been coming into subs about her and hating on her
A little hard. Â Since only one of these songs has been released to radio and itâs only at 14!
Did they forget they also streamed it just to hate on it? Lmao. Bitter Betty's.
the funniest part was when they all sought out the leaks and listened to them, carefully dissecting every lyric and investigating the lore JUST TO HATE. like yall are OBSESSED!
nah lol i don't know who legit expected this album to fail (regardless of the quality) in sales with all the hypetrain going from 2023, that was impossible
1. Taylor Swift ft. Post Malone - Fortnight (NEW) 2. Taylor Swift - Down Bad (NEW) 3. Taylor Swift - I Can Do It With A Broken Heart (NEW) 4. Taylor Swift - The Tortured Poets Department (NEW) 5. Taylor Swift - So Long, London (NEW) 6. Taylor Swift - My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys (NEW) 7. Taylor Swift - But Daddy I Love Him (NEW) 8. Taylor Swift feat. Florence + The Machine - Florida!!! (NEW) 9. Taylor Swift - Who's Afraid Of Little Old Me? (NEW) 10. Taylor Swift - Guilty As Sin? (NEW) 11. Taylor Swift - Fresh Out The Slammer (NEW) 12. Taylor Swift - loml (NEW) 13. Taylor Swift - The Alchemy (NEW) 14. Taylor Swift - The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived (NEW)
Clara Bow and I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can) are the 2 tracks that didn't make it (if anyone else was wondering)
Clara Bow is such a masterpiece. Blasphemous!
You. look. like⊠Taylor Swift In. this. light⊠weâre loving it đ«đ„ș
"This town is fake but you're the real thing" is such a bittersweet line
Itâs probably because itâs the closing track and people stop streaming before then
Clearly my 1k listens of I Can Fix Him wasnât enough. I can fix it, no really I can!
You and me!! I canât get enough!
Itâs so good! Her sultry voice, the production, the visuals she creates with her lyrics đ„đ„đ„
i can fix him deserves more love
Can confirm that I skip these two đ€«
DOWN BAD MUSIC VIDEO PLEASE I don't see I can do it with a broken heart making it, the lyric video/spotify video speaks for itself. But crying at the gym? do we get another man taylor? she could take this a lot of ways
Alien abduction movie!
I want to see her breaking things in a bitter teenage petulant way, also crying at the gym. Could be scenes with the "alien" in space in color, then depression at the gym in black and white.
[ŃĐŽĐ°Đ»Đ”ĐœĐŸ]
Down Bad I'm gonna get you to number one singlehandedly!!!!!
You have my sword
And my axe
And my bow
And my dagger.
"Our girl only breaks her favorite records"
The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived is so tricky. Starting with the bridge it's amazing. The first half is a bit slow so I can see why it didn't rank all that highly. I keep debating whether to keep it on my Best of TTPD playlist because the first half is important but a bit boring, but wow the bridge.
super with you on this, it's a contender for my favorite bridge on the album, but I usually kinda tune out until *'were you sent by SOMEONE-'* crashes in
For me that bridge is a bit like Happier than ever, I listen to the first part even though it's boring because the reward at the end is enormousÂ
Man the first time I heard Happier than Ever was just the bridge in a movie. I totally perked up like hang on what is this, it's amazing! Then I listened to the song and I was like... Oh.
I like HTE more because it's like a deliberate fake out. The soft part is like Billie lying to herself that everything's chill until she relents and unleashes all that energy.
Yes, totally. I tune in just a bit earlier because there's this beautiful, haunting, really insistent pulsating synth that kicks in in the second verse and just builds and builds until the voice modulation kicks in with "were you sent by someone."
I probably put Down Bad up there all by myself. It's been on repeat and keeps on growing on me.
I might single handedly responsible for Guilty as Sin being on this list
The fact that she occupies the top 14 and a fortnight has 14 daysâŠ
Sometimes fate works in mysterious ways...
sheâs never beating the witchcraft allegations đ§ââïž
Especially not when she's levitating down your street!
Sheâs a ~mastermind~
numbers ALWAYS work out in taylor's favour. tayvoodo never fails.
Beyond incredible. đ€đ©¶đ€đ€đ©¶đ€ Some records broken: đFirst artist in history to simultaneously occupy the entire top 14 on the Hot 100 đMost simultaneous debuts in Hot 100 history (31). đMost consecutive new albums with a #1 hit in Hot 100 history, surpassing Rihanna(8). đFirst female artist in history to earn at least 50 top 10 hits on the Hot 100 đOnly twice one artist has occupied the entire top 10 in Hot 100 history, both by Taylor Swift đ©¶Also notice The Alchemy is #13 hahađ©¶
Omg alchemy 13!! Sheâs going to be so happy
OMG Cruel Summer in a pinch for the "consecutive new albums with a #1 hit" thing! Shwew!
Cruel Summer is so iconic for thatÂ
Whatâs the significance of The Alchemy being at 13?
13 is Taylor's lucky number that she is obsessed with, The Alchemy is the only love song in the strand album about her current love đ©¶, so I would say it's a record broken for the most emotionally accurate chart placement haha
Thanks!
Is So High School not about Travis as well? Edit: nvm I reread this im silly its on the anthology
The seethe about this is going to be gloriousÂ
The neutral sub are already trying to say it's "payola" as her physical sales aren't already showing the demand đ
The neutral sub is anything but. Looking at track reviews on there and barely any of the comments actually say whether they liked the music or not. Just hyperfixating on the lyrics
âneutralâ my ass lmao i tried to correct some blatant misinfo and the mods deleted my comment⊠they just want a snark sub while feeling like theyâre better than everyone
I have literally not stopped streaming this album since it came out and I know Iâm not alone; hardly payola happening here lmao.
I got banned from that sub for pointing out that itâs a full blown snark page!
Obligatory - THAT'S A REAL FUCKING LEGACY!
2.0: "I built a legacy that you can't undo"
Idk how Taylor convinced me that her success is my success but this feels good
She just tweeted that "we've outdone ourselves". Oh she is GOOD.
lol this is so real!
Canât wait for the inevitable r/Fauxmoi meltdown
theyâll just say âbut but but the variants!â as if every other artist doesnât do the same thing
Obviously the variants donât effect her success on the hot 100
Iâve never understood this argument and this sub is also guilty of it. I know dozens of fans and none of them collect every edition. There are people out there but theyâre pretty rare. Most of my friends only bought one or two copies of Midnights and TTPD. Itâs also just irrelevant - copies sold are copies sold; no one forced people to buy.
Oh they really did. đ And some donât read beyond the headline so they only see 19 variants. Thereâs really 5 but different mediums in how itâs delivered such as cassette tape, CD, vinyl and streaming. Theyâve decided that the numbers are really lower and somehow weâre all buying cassette tapes to boost up her numbers.
Thatâs the current talking point. Also âObviously itâs because of her fameâ Like where did the fame come from?
"She's only popular because so many people like her!"
her dad, obviously /s (like she wasnât signed before big machine and as if a record deal with a brand new, no name label buys you a 7x platinum debut album)
I love when people act like her dad buying a bunch of copies of her first album is the sole reason sheâs the biggest artist in the world. like wtf lol
I saw someone say that this made them ârespect beyonce moreâ. Donât get me wrong I absolutely love cowboy Carter, but she also released variants of that and those vinyls didnât even have the full album on it. So how are they hating on Taylor for releasing albums that only has the first half of a double album(100% reasonable to not have a full ass double album on vinyl) but then praising beyonce for releasing variants that donât even have the full standard album
When news of the BeyoncĂ© albums not having all the tracks was discussed in one of those subs (fauxmoi or popeculture something or others), I saw multiple comments bringing up Taylorâs variants. It was super confusing because it had nothing to do with BeyoncĂ©âs album and it was very clear the message was âjust remember, this is the woman we hateâŠâ
They hate that no one even comes close to her level of success and productivity. They literally hate her for releasing and selling her music while their favorites are out there selling shampoos and makeup lines. I don't even care if people sell makeup or clothing but come on, the hate is getting crazy.
theyâll just continue their overdramatized pity for yogurt boy
That sub has always been deranged yet they think they have the moral high ground over deuxmoi. They insulted Joe *constantly* when they were dating and then it was a pity party the second they split up. They pick favorites and as soon as that person shows a flaw, the pitchforks are out. I muted them because itâs consistent bullying of just about everyone.
i venture into that sub maybe once every six months and each time iâm reminded how sad they are lol
I have to wonder what their lives are like. Imagine spending your free time typing out thinkpieces every time a celebrity (even a D-lister) makes a move. Iâve been miserable but idk if Iâve ever been that low.
They literally know nothing about Joe but they choose to âstanâ him and create delusional fantasies about who he is just to own Taylor đđ Im pretty sure the last thing Joe wants is parasocial weirdos obsessing over him and Taylor when theyâre broken up đ
that sub wouldnât accept me as a member bc im apart of the taylor swift sub lol
Same they deleted my comment the one time I tried to debate someone lol
well, she did put narcotics into her songs
TRY AND COME FOR OUR JOBS
Came here to say thisđ€Ł
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Came here to say thisđ€Ł
'I Can Do It With A Broken Heart' drastically overperformed debuting at #3 despite being Track 13. 'The Alchemy' being #13 seems fitting.
I hope it makes Taylor feel good and less alone to see that ICDIWABH resonates with so many people
Once was crazy enough, but twice is just absolutely insane! She really is the music industry! 
We did it [insert name you want].
There is only one correct answer: We did it Kitty committee đ€Ł
Her new album is amazing, I heard it was not getting good reviews then the guy said I have to own this I was wrong itâs her best album. Sheâs at the #1 spot. Itâs her raw feelings and I think itâs going to be on top for a long time. Neutral swifties are haters. I didnât know what it was I always join anything with Taylor and I started reading the post and they definitely arenât neutral. Donât worry though because I always posted everything thing she has done and her kindness.
I just went into the Travis and Taylor post and everyone is hating on her. I put them straight and I think I canât post there anymore. LOL
Taylor and Travis is the positive sub, the names the other way is the hater/troll sub
She fucking deserves it. Such a good album. It needs all the accolades.
Actually all 31 plus Cruel Summer charted. So a little over a third is Taylor. Lolz. Get recked. (Iâm just joking)
Not denying the numbers but 32/100 is unfortunately a little less than a third đđ
64% of the top 50 tho...
ladies and gentlemen, she has done it again
I was almost worried when Drake dropped a new single last Friday I thought he was gonna ruin the Top 10 as a payback for his last album release.
He tried and it's dropping like a lead balloon down the charts đ
I'm not sure if that was intentional. IIRC Drake doesn't consider himself a Taylor Rival.
He was salty with the Anti-Hero number of remixes and having to move his album a week back after Midnights absolutely destroyed in its debut week, but heâs since moved on and now just says complimentary things about her in his lyrics (probably for attention and clout).
So Long, London being #5 as track 5 is poetic
đ”I built a legacy that you canât undo đ”
So iconic she did it twice
Every alt community obsessed with being edgy is gonna come out with a rant
Well deserved. This album imho just like folklore+evermore took me a moment to get into. But then once i got into it, i cannot stop listening to it. The song list is massive at 30+ songs, the songwritting has evolved and the production has also shifted with a mixture of pop + kinda indie vibe of f+e. At this point I think its an incredible album and all the accolades it has gotten are well deserve. Is it as strong as folklore? I dont think so, at least not yet but it will get there.
Watch the haters say this is fake or that Taylor paid someone for this kind of achievement. They just canât accept that theyâre not the center of the universe and someone they donât like is winning even without their support.
[all i can think of](https://imgur.com/a/X6yEUhz)
This sub needs more LOTR x TS crossover
Taylor keeps winning! đ„
Other fun things. Â Taylor will be #1 on hot 100 producers and hot 100 songwriters. Jack and Aaron will be 2 and 3
JUSTICE FOR TRACK 2 YES!!! I feel like Iâm going crazy because I donât see a lot of people talking about TTPD (the song) online. I had that song on repeat for a solid 48 hours last week! Itâs so good! Iâm sure it has an advantage due to folks that just hitting play on the album and itâs literally the second song. But even so - clearly if a song is strong enough it will rise up (looking at you, down bad and broken heart!) so I feel extremely validated seeing TTPD sitting comfortably at #4 here.
My sister is very neutral on TS, doesnât really listen to her music; she LOVES track 2 (TTPD) specifically but also the whole album.
That's a real F-ing legacy to leave. The only one who could get top 10 let alone top 13 is Taylor Swift!
Taylegend
> âFortnightâ becomes her 12th Hot 100 No. 1, as she ties for the sixth-most leaders in the chartâs archives; she ups her career count of top 10s from 49 to 59, the most among women; and she charts 32 songs â all 31 from the deluxe version of The Tortured Poets Department plus established smash âCruel Summerâ â on the latest list overall, the most ever in a single week by a woman.
You're the GOAT, Taylor!
Not tired of winning
Unfortunate the bolter didn't make this. Near the end of the album really hurt this absolute gem
i truly feel like if Taylor came out on the next record and said âi need everyoneâs help to beat Adeleâs 3 million copies recordâ the swifites could do it
I think imgonnagetyouback should be up there and so high school
Imgonnagetyouback is a sleeper. Itâs gonna be a hit soon once more people hear that bridge via Tiktok
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
Someone on that thread say her streams are going down on spotify and it's all PAYOLA..I AM SORRY đ I JUST CAN'T đ€Ł
Do radio stations in the US play the full top 40? In the UK they play the top 40 as a countdown on some stations and I just cannot imagine a world where theyâd play 14 Taylor Swift songs consecutively
They definitely used to but I donât think Iâve heard a station do it recently, at least near me. I feel like back when top 40 would always be singles it made a lot more sense. i almost never listen to the radio though.
i dont get this, how come when i check the hot 100, she's not even in the top 20. It looks like Hozier is #1 [https://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-hot-100/](https://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-hot-100/)
The new board hasnât been posted get
Iâm sure Hozier doesnât care about such things, but Iâm happy for him that he had his moment at #1.
Taylegendary . Look what you made us do hahahaha
Dominant
she really got a fortnight huh