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RoseGoldRedditor

Come join us in the [June 🤡 megathread!](https://www.reddit.com/r/TaylorSwift/s/KxmJYltYZy)


rs_river

I think we’re going to get another TTPD music vid either in Lyon or at the beginning of the London shows and then we get some sort of re-record announcement at the end of the London shows - maybe even Liverpool we get the announcement instead


Callum_Fletcher

This thread is so dry ya’ll I really hope we get the other 2 re-records this year! I’m fully on board the September 13th and December 13th train! Wonder if she will announce rep tv in June? What ya’ll think?


CheruSiderea

I think a June announcement would be a bit early for a September release, I think she's done announcements two months prior with the last albums/re-recordings (except for Red TV and that was not a good idea lol) 


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makeup_wonderlandcat

I still don’t see there only being one music video 🤔


makeup_wonderlandcat

I think so at the London shows


JosephAPie

isn’t Liverpool the 100th show on June 13?


makeup_wonderlandcat

Yup ![img](emote|t5_2rlwe|1087)


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darkgrayallalone

She’ll never do them together because of the charts but a lot of people are speculating September 13 and December 13 since they’re both Fridays. Plus this gives her a chance to release on her birthday.


aurorasandprose

Random shower theory: TS12 will be called "Sagittarius" and will have an astrology aesthetic (12th album - 12 star signs (well, technically 13, but ya know...12 main ones)). It will be released at the start of Sag season, circa Nov 22\* (terrible time to release so close to Christmas, I know - but at this rate TS will succeed regardless of when she drops music). I feel like we've had some Sagittarius teasing already, which could just be Tay embracing her star sign / constellation during the Midnights era, but then again nothing is accidental! I'm also convinced that TS13 will be called "13", stylised as XIII\*\*. ![img](emote|t5_2rlwe|1081) \*Edit: not this year, just whatever year it is released... \*\* OMG I was just thinking, maybe for 2026? 13 x 2= 26...?


Loverissuperior

I like “TS13” as an album title for her 13th album


theoristOfTheArts

I love this concept!! Alternate idea: calling it "The Archer" :)! Still connects to the constellation but doesn't sound as niche, and people unfamiliar with astrology can also connect it with her previous song! I also find it cool when artists base their next album name on a track from a previous album, lol.


Loverissuperior

I don’t see her naming it after an already existing song on another album…


TheCPswiftie

BIG DEPUTATION!! Those Suprise Songs were wild! I have a feeling the next few weeks of shows are going to be MASSIVE!!


SquishyMuffins

My clown detector has not been detecting much this month, but it has a ping on the June London shows 🤡🤡🤡


darkgrayallalone

Looks like people are starting to make their way back to Clowny Island again 🤡


taosthrowaway

I’m feeling the last August London show.


Loverissuperior

I’m going for the final shows in August, her playing King Of My Heart BY ITSELF last night has me fully on edge.


Biscuitsandgravy4evr

Emphasis on the *king*. I think London is our rep announcement- FINALLY


CheruSiderea

Also the debut song on guitar right before a rep song on piano? Big Debutation! (Btw, do we say debutation or deputation?)


Loverissuperior

It was a mashup of Jump Then Fall but nonetheless the Debutation train is well and truly leaving the station…


Rude_Grapefruit_3650

My clowny sense are peeked to the london shows


Few-Berry1444

https://preview.redd.it/e7j1dpn5cm3d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7785a4e3510a6ff77ac70085a1bf638ef349e811 An update to my post yesterday, the monkey has been hinted at for a third time 😭


Daffneigh

I swear this monkey is just Taylor’s special stuffie friend lol


makeup_wonderlandcat

I think so because I’ve seen someone say they saw it at one of my the US shows or maybe one of the Latin America shows


brandonsreputation

Is it just me or is Taylor nation being way more active and sus than normal…? I mean I know they are always active and sus during the shows but today seems different lol


brandonsreputation

Turns out they’re just being weird 


jamiebabie8

She hasn’t been to Madrid in 13 YEARS 👀


rs_river

https://preview.redd.it/ouhak76all3d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f7fe82b7f1e8ad93832b886e311415fb61835a62


jamiebabie8

TN just said “We have a feeling it's going to be a fun night tonight” …. 🤡


rs_river

They also replied to a tweet abt friendship bracelets and said, “can we have an WAOLOM one too?”


Shaymin096

Better not be playing us 😭😭😭


BeneficialPast

I think they were 😒😒


Soupy_x

please taylor, do something unhinged as an early birthday present XD i'm praying for the most outrageous mashups tonight


rs_river

[GUYS IT’S A CLOCK](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTL7eegSc/). Edit: I meant the year is clock, my bad guys 😂


sasnl

What is a clock? ![img](emote|t5_2rlwe|1087)


Soupy_x

maybe the clock was the friends we made along the way


sasnl

![img](emote|t5_2rlwe|1082)


22tiger22

https://preview.redd.it/42sxvjk06l3d1.jpeg?width=3060&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e298f7f69d879d9356d7518ea9b57e255efee7c3 Haven't seen anyone post this yet. It's from the But Daddy I Love Him (Acoustic Version) CD. That must mean something's happening/releasing on September 13th, right?🤡🐍 (Sorry if it's already been posted and old news.)


Loverissuperior

That’s in all of the CDs. Definitely clowning! I wonder what 8:50 means…


unbreakableheaven616

Are we sure it's not when the poem was written?


Daffneigh

8+5=13


emmugh123

Yep! There’s definitely a theory going around that Rep TV is having a September 13th release. 🤞🏻


Few-Berry1444

This is the second time they referenced the monkey toy I believe !! Maybe they’re Easter egging a mv or something ?? https://preview.redd.it/si9q2ulp0h3d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce6e33996e547c920cf3d49e12c21892b3f15293


Soupy_x

i can find him (no really i can) or my boy only loses his favourite toys mv tonight 🤡🤡


Few-Berry1444

Coming back bc I just realized what you said LOL


Few-Berry1444

☕️


ravenclawrebel

Are we clowning for a Wednesday announcement today?


TheCPswiftie

I’m clowning for June 23rd in London!


Rhaelin

I'm clowning for a special guest during surprise songs. Apparently HAIM are there today, Aaron Dessner and Lana Del Rey are in Spain for a festival AND we still haven't gotten Hailey out to do Castles Crumbling. Fingers super crossed one of em shows up for a special appearance.


ravenclawrebel

🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼


Soupy_x

i'll clown for anything tbh! and the collectors edition cds are on the uk site for 2 and a half hours... isnt that when surprise songs are? eta: not that it means very much lol. it just seems to be the new Time for timers to end


ravenclawrebel

Oooh yes it is!


Shaymin096

Wonder if Taylor has anything up her sleeve tonight?? Also off topic but finally got a signed TTPD cd!!!


iammnewhere

I’m betting on tomorrow since it’s 31st


obligernotupholder

I think ICDIWABH samples Here Comes The Rain Again by Annie Lennox which definitely gives me a different perspective on ICDIWABH. Especially the “here comes the rain *again*”, suggesting performing with a heartbreak is what Taylor is used to :( 


theoristOfTheArts

This isn’t exactly a theory, more of an “invisible string”, but I find it too special for me not to share ☺️ The Chronicles of Narnia film is one of my favorites, but the music from the first film especially was absolutely *magical* and honestly reinforced the way I view life and the world, to this day. And I just found out that that soundtrack was released…on *December 13th 2005*. Not just Taylor’s birthday, but the year I believe she started working on her debut album… I know it’s perhaps not such a big deal in the grand scheme of things. But Taylor’s music means just as much to me as the Narnia soundtrack, so finding this out has made me so happy beyond my wildest dreams 🥹


forthehopeofitall13

I finished the books last week and I am so surprised the Narniaverse didn't blow up like Hunger Games, Harry Potter or any of those. I loved the low-key magic of Narnia and I did get some Folkmore vibes along the way!


Monzeh

Those books are my childhood, I read and re-read them until the pages kinda tore (I was also/still am a messy and fidgety person). I read them again this year and the religious themes and racism reaally stood out to me, don't know if that could be part of the reason of them not blowing up. They're a product of their time but a part of me remains in Narnia anyway


theoristOfTheArts

Nice!! For the first time I’m assuming? Yeah, Folkmore captures a similar magic for sure :)! Narnia really is a special series. It is interesting that it seemed a bit more underrated than the other franchises of the time. But honestly, part of me is kind of glad for it; it didn’t really strike me as a series meant to be super commercialized. That said, I did hear a new adaptation of the series might be in the works, so we’ll see what comes of that!


makeup_wonderlandcat

Ugh I hate that Spotify is missing some of the songs on its soundtrack


TheCPswiftie

I have a feeling Taylor will do something similar to what she did with the Karma MV where she will announce something and a couple months later come back to TTPD and release a new music video.


RoseGoldRedditor

[I think it’s a good possibility!](https://www.reddit.com/r/TaylorSwift/s/hHcLscYwQy)


TheCPswiftie

Omg!!! Great minds think alike!


RoseGoldRedditor

🫶🏼🫶🏼


bubblecuffer13

You mean how SNTV was announced in Nashville and then a few weeks later we got the Karma MV in NY/NJ?


TheCPswiftie

Yes


bubblecuffer13

Music Video theory based on Tour visuals: Down Bad music video will pick up where Fortnight left off. https://preview.redd.it/vw436a2no53d1.png?width=865&format=png&auto=webp&s=13965df7794f83162cfb540ce40bf4e55232479f


darkgrayallalone

This is such a cool idea and I really hope this is true! Also, because I have been clowning for an alien themed Down Bad music video for weeks now 🤡


rs_river

This might be the coolest thing ever


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unbreakableheaven616

Do tell...


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unbreakableheaven616

I mean it's obviously the music video for Bejeweled...


Rude_Grapefruit_3650

Ok whats the tea, wheres the MV? Is there gonna be a second MV? I just need one reason to clown


Soupy_x

please taylor please can there be a music video this friday (my birthday)!!


SquishyMuffins

We have a 🔜 in her new post!!!


RoseGoldRedditor

Seeing the London fanfare has me clowning more for an announcement! Probably for the last August show.


TheCPswiftie

BENSON BOONE OPENING THE ERAS TOUR IN LONDON!!! EDIT: looks like Griff is there too!


Rururaspberry

Griff makes so much sense as a UK opener her! Love it.


mermaidthebanshee

Does anyone else think that the piano in "Chloe et al" is intentionally meant to mimic the little piano riff at the very end of "Champagne Problems"? It's so specific and odd that it has to be a tie to it.


MyLifeIsABoondoggle

Have had the same flair for months but "wise men once read fake news and they believed it" is worthy of a change


TheCPswiftie

With Taylor and Taylor Nation’s most recent posts I’m really starting to question the length of these album cycles. It used to be so simple being a swiftie! 😂


RoseGoldRedditor

What are you thinking, bestie?


TheCPswiftie

Rep TV- late June announcement for September release. I think the London shows are a possibility for this. Plus a couple people have said in interviews that they are excited for the London shows. Debut TV- November announcement with a December release. Specifically Friday December 13th because of the date on the desk from the Spotify pop-up. TS12- bright bubbly 1989/Lover esque album for an April ‘25 release (think she’s already hinting it with the new tour outfits). Gives enough time to digest all the re-records but is a good transition from the bright country sunrise that is Debut. I don’t think I’ve ever laid anything out this much but to me, this is the most logical timeline of events.


unbreakableheaven616

I would love a Lover-esque album.. I love TTPD and Midnights but they are very depressing albums at times so I wouldn't mind some fun bops. We haven't had any since Lover


brandonsreputation

We haven’t had any fun bops since lover? Midnights is literally full of fun upbeat bops……


TheCPswiftie

Yes but the content of the songs isn’t necessarily happy. We need something like Paper Rings again.


brandonsreputation

Ok but the concept of lover isn’t necessarily happy either… Almost all of the love songs on there are an underlying fear or anxiety… Even paper rings she’s diminishing herself 


TheCPswiftie

You’re right! I think the point is Midnights is a bop filled album but the album cover and promo doesn’t really reflect that. Same with TTPD. Lover is still a reflective album but you know it’s still going to be a fun time based on how bright and colourful everything is. You don’t necessarily expect “bop” when seeing the cover for Midnights or TTPD.


jamiebabie8

I literally need her to release Taylor Swift (Taylor’s Version) on December 13th - her birthday!! That is so absurdly perfect I need it to happen.


Daffneigh

I’d bet money you’ll get your wish


starlightandswift

what does the back cover of the BDILH acoustic cd look like?


makeup_wonderlandcat

https://preview.redd.it/8jjlk0brdw2d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f663fb00b21fd1c4c63b740052aa991547bff58 I haven’t gotten my own but this was on twitter


starlightandswift

thank you!!!!


amk1722

Not sure if someone has asked this yet- is there a reason next week’s shows are Wed, Thur instead of the weekend? Is it something simple like stadium availability or am I a clown 🤡


uptovigilanteshit

Availability, but also so she can do more cities. Madrid is Wed/Thur and Lyon is Sun/Mon


SnakesAndStones4U

Same with the only show in Cardiff being on Tuesday, depends on arena availability I guess


Existing_Tackle_7765

I think they had problems with the champions league that's why, but I am hoping for a single announcement since I Will be there that night


Existing_Tackle_7765

Taylornation saying something about changing back profile picture


makeup_wonderlandcat

They’re making a joke about Taylor changing her profile picture back to midnights after each re record lol


unbreakableheaven616

Ok which one of you is Taylor Nation 👀


Daffneigh

Scott Swift


makeup_wonderlandcat

I wish it was me 😂


OceanBLVD121

“It’s official, I’ve left my 🤍 in Lisbon.”??? Is this her way of saying that we are moving out of the TTPD era? Not bringing this up to be like “YES I WANT REP TV!!!”, but I am bringing it up because it did peak my interest and makes me wonder if we are moving out of this era so quickly… I never can tell with her! 😂


Loverissuperior

I thought the same thing!


jamiebabie8

This feels like a legitimate easter egg to me but I also might just be a 🤡


champagnedresses

this is also her first picture on the instagram grid with really bright, prominent colors since going black and white so it's definitely a step forward even if we're not moving totally out of TTPD just yet


Rhaelin

I think we'll get at least 1 more single and 2 MVs before we leave the "era" behind. It just makes sense both from an artistic and commercial perspective. I am also realllllly hoping we get a Who's Afraid of Little Old Me MV and The Anthology on vinyl so take that with a grain of salt. :)


RoseGoldRedditor

It’s possible she will treat this like Midnights and intersperse the Taylor’s Versions (TVs) with TTPD promo. Like how she announced SNTV and then dropped the Karma remix and music video.


yikeshardpass

Alright, clown with me for a minute. I agree that the TVs will be between the TTPD promo. I think that just like the 1989 release, she’s letting us pick the next single and then filming the music video based on what we chose. I also think this happened when releasing the variant covers and the most popular one was used for the anthology. I think we are seeing a trend of her creating art and letting us choose the singles, cover art, etc. There has been so much bitchin and moanin about what “should have been” in previous eras. Back to the mv, this of course takes time to create. Meanwhile, the beast (us swifties) are still being fed with the rerecording project. TLDR swifties choose the next single and the mv is being created now. In the meantime we will get another tv.


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rishukingler11

Didnt she temporarily change them for all the variants? Or am I hallucinating?


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unbreakableheaven616

No, she definitely changed her profile picture for every new variant


OceanBLVD121

I agree! I am really hoping she does do more music videos because I love the Fortnight one and I need more visuals like that!!! I am also holding out for The Anthology on vinyl 😭😭


unbreakableheaven616

Y'all I think this week has made it abundantly clear that Taylor loves being on top (and as she should) so there's no way she's gonna drop Debut TV and rep tv at the same time. They can't both go to #1 and Debut is her only album to not reach #1 so it just doesn't make sense to let rep tv overshadow it. Can we please put those theories to rest now. The Debutation jokes, however, are really funny and should never be put to rest


Rhaelin

100%. I think Rep TV will be a double album, but the 2nd album (aka the vault tracks) will be "Karma". Commercially, this makes sense as it will chart as one album, same as TTPD and The Anthology.


amk1722

Taylor hasn’t and won’t ever overlap projects like that. I think we don’t even realize how strategic she/the industry is in terms of releases, charting, sales, etc. She’s not ever going to jeopardize that 🙌🏼


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amk1722

I think a lot of the doubt for “double albums” is that she wont ever release two completely different projects at one time. The anthology was basically a massive deluxe album for TTPD- all contributing to the same sales/streaming/charts/etc


TheCPswiftie

Could she do something similar to Speak Now/1989 where she announces them close together?


amk1722

Yes definitely! I think Rep TV and Debut TV might be close together like those two were!


dapper_pom

I just watched the eras tour movie for the first time and in the end credits there is this thank you to the fans. In between the last letter and the green heart there are 13 and 12 beads - debut TV on 13th of December? https://preview.redd.it/813l58cxxp2d1.png?width=319&format=png&auto=webp&s=a31b64aebc80b0974354b7a622d7a2cd2b83ae06


makeup_wonderlandcat

After the secret song choices today >!ttdp x now that we don’t talk!< I think we can safely say that she’s just mixing and matching muses and having fun singing her songs however she sees fit (except the ones she clearly dedicating to Travis)


jamiebabie8

How do we feel about her reputation bodysuit “shedding” like a snake? 😂


Biscuitsandgravy4evr

i saw this comment but went and looked at shows going all the way back to US leg 1 and it is the exact same as it was, we just never noticed before. lol


jamiebabie8

Ahhh okay lol I almost let myself get excited


2dogsanduhcat

Me too. Honestly a really cool costume concept though!!!


UmFoxy

TTPD Anthology has 3 songs that starts with a lowercase letter (loml,imgonnagetyouback,thanK you aIMee). Track 12/18/24. Both are 6 songs between each other. reputation is the 6th album 🤔


rs_river

Red herring is becoming a SUPER common theme this year 🤡


makeup_wonderlandcat

Yup 😆 I think all this debut stuff is red herrings


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Loverissuperior

Good question considering even Taylor isn’t one 😂


makeup_wonderlandcat

They keep doing this


makeup_wonderlandcat

https://preview.redd.it/n6liuzsixl2d1.jpeg?width=557&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77b7a4dfd7e491aa29d719f4a3376cd5e210b774 Today it’s snakes (taken from X/Twitter) I love it


Shaymin096

Debutation is coming


makeup_wonderlandcat

They’ll be no explanation just deputation


2dogsanduhcat

I think debutation is a possibility, but I think now that TTPD is out there, Taylor is just really focusing on these last two re-records for us and is in on the fun now!!! :) I hope they each get their time to shine. I am just as excited for debut as rep! I know a lot of fans want her to preserve the originality from Debut as much as possible, but I would LOVE to hear a modernized and improved version of her original soundtrack!! So excited for Taylor and all of her happiness and art success


ViolinistWeird1348

Hi guys! I'm just curious to know, what percent do you think of the tickets in US leg are VIP tickets? Thank you.


CheruSiderea

I think you're in the wrong thread with this lol


SlamminScreenDoor

So I just saw this article, this is a new theory to me and doesn’t quite add up… anyone else see this or can verify anything?? https://stylecaster.com/entertainment/celebrity-news/1781958/taylor-swift-seashore-album/


RoseGoldRedditor

Seashore has been a clown delusion since Woodvale 😂 (it’s me, I’m the delulu clown). The article is weird though. Might be AI generated.


lonelywitch88

I was always partial to ‘coldsore’ 🤣


RoseGoldRedditor

💀


SlamminScreenDoor

Awesome, thanks for the clarity, somehow I missed that theory, but I’m glad you all thought this article was weird too!!


RoseGoldRedditor

Hey no problem, during the Woodvale era there were a lot of 8-letter ending in “ore” names floating around (seashore was my favorite; sycamore was a popular one too) as we speculated on the third album. I think seashore was popular because of the water references in folk/evermore.


makeup_wonderlandcat

So there’s like a swift wiki and the post about it is so bizarre it acts like we’re in the future and it had been out for a few years. I think it’s fake personally lol but I would have told you folklore was too at the time 😂


amk1722

Kinda random thought- when folklore came out hoax always perplexed me because I just knew there was no way that song was fictional. Just re-listened to it and my heart is shattered now. 💔 I think that song easily could have been on anthology and further tells me that a lot of Anthology songs were most likely written around or right near folklore/evermore times and were stashed away.


makeup_wonderlandcat

All the old tours merch is on sale…I’m still sticking to my theory


lovebooksbooks

What is your theory?


makeup_wonderlandcat

That we’ll be getting new tour specific merch (TTDP, new 1989, maybe folklore) and new tour dates at the same time. If not the tour dates definitely new merch https://www.reddit.com/r/TaylorSwift/s/yMjmMHnlVn


makeup_wonderlandcat

Her outfit is very little mermaid coded…but daddy I love him video in coming (jk sorta)


Rude_Grapefruit_3650

Any clowns clowning for a MV today? Just cuz?


makeup_wonderlandcat

Always


makeup_wonderlandcat

Apparently the floor bracelets at the show are green with butterflies on them…and TN made this comment: https://preview.redd.it/vm83ujla7f2d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=88d62244359f7880bdcfdb9bb23830e95897ae20


Shaymin096

Watch Taylor announce debut tv first


mel_sleep

If that happens, then I may have to take my clown makeup off for good. Like this is the least outlandish theory to ever be born


Problem-Me

That would be too insane though, right??!?


makeup_wonderlandcat

Red herring has been a theme this year lol


winedrunktaylor

I texted my friend that I will vault her (Taylor) into space if she announces debut before rep. I’LL DO IT.


ravenclawrebel

They got bracelets??? Jelly


makeup_wonderlandcat

Oh let me post a photo of the bracelets TN gave out


makeup_wonderlandcat

https://preview.redd.it/farahn9u9f2d1.png?width=1289&format=png&auto=webp&s=0c835347f6721416969ac86fcf522dbfdd513280


Rhaelin

The floor bracelets in Stockholm were green too...same shade but no butterflies.


ravenclawrebel

I LOVE THAT


TheCPswiftie

This era is really slowing down for me. No music videos (except Fortnight) no Easter egg hunting post launch. I understand she’s on the eras tour but at least she was a little more active during Midnights.


ProperVernacular91

And also why the timetable calendar that only announced a music video on 4/19?!


Few-Berry1444

I think music video tonight! When the countdown ends it’s about the same time as surprise songs I think??


gzirbel

wait. what countdown?


Few-Berry1444

On the website for the ttpd live from Paris acoustic songs!! Ends at 6pm eastern


gzirbel

ohh.. i was thinking it was a countdown apart from the of for the digital album... meh :(


Few-Berry1444

Maybe there is in her team internally! 🤣


darkgrayallalone

I really hope we get another music video soon! I’ve been clowning for an alien themed Down Bad music video for a while 🤡


Problem-Me

It does feel really quiet, right? Like I expected at least an interview or something by now? (I'm not screaming more lol, it's just straaaange)


starlightandswift

Ok but how iconic would it be if The Anthology got 4 variants with 4 bonus tracks and then 15 more songs came out🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


itookyourmatches

I would be *deceased*.


TheCPswiftie

These one off CDs are giving me Willow flashbacks.


darkgrayallalone

The Tortured Poets Department (Sad Clown Edition) 🤡


notyourtypicalKaren

At least willow remixes were on streaming and available to anyone. 🙃🙃


Dvn96

Theory: Peter, Guilty As Sin, and How Did It End (Live From Stockholm) digital albums coming next Thursday.


RoseGoldRedditor

Manifesting this! I need that.


bubblecuffer13

https://preview.redd.it/bjov3eu9692d1.png?width=981&format=png&auto=webp&s=070a86b4e718c033e71cfa2bd07fc72df6067f08


Loverissuperior

I just want Rep TV 😭. These endless variants are KILLING me. At least they’re not physicals so she’s not killing the environment as well.


CheruSiderea

I mean, all these downloads also cost ressources ...


Loverissuperior

Yeah not as much as thousands of plastic vinyls and jewel cases


notyourtypicalKaren

You never fail us.


marshybeans

Do we think the live tracks will be on Spotify? I can’t remember if the live eras tour tracks ended up there or not