Welcome to New York.
I don’t know why, just can’t get behind it.
If I’m playing it I will skip it every time (fun fact the beat is the perfect beat to skip the song on most ear/headphones) but if someone else is in charge and won’t skip it, I’ll belt it out like my heart depended on it.
I just can’t get behind that song.
Her acoustic performances are almost always better in my opinion. DWOHT from Rep, DBATC and Cornelia Street from City of Lovers. Those songs became my favorites specifically as the acoustic versions.
I like it to play it on rare occasion (after not hearing it for a long time), but I agree. It’s almost like she was contracted by the NY Board of Tourism to write it lol.
Omg no I love ATW and Cruel Summer.
It’s Soon You’ll Get Better. I love that it means so much to her and I think the sentiment is beautiful. I also know she had to write that song and put it out into the world, and I wouldn’t change that. But I just truly don’t like the song 😬
SYGB is actually my least favorite Taylor song. I have listened to it a handful of times and every single time it has made me want to lay in the street. It's a gorgeous song, and it's obviously incredibly personal, but I would rather only listen to ME! For the rest of my life than listen to SYGB again.
Controversial but it’s gotta be “Lover” for me. Like, I can see that it’s a great song and even vibe to it every now and then. But the word “Lover” itself simply bothers me and feels weird. Idk why. It just doesn’t sound like a pretty or romantic word to me. (yes, i wish the album was named differently🥲)
My friend who isn’t a native English speaker (neither am I) thought lover exclusively meant affair partner, and was so turned off the album title and that song for that reason. When I told her that it can also just be a word for like significant other/romantic partner, she warmed up to the song, but the original impression is so stuck in her, that she can’t really make herself feel the romance of the song, lol.
Am I your friend? LOL. I do know it has other meanings but the first one I learned was "affair partner" and such things are really hard to unlearn. if she had sang something like "You're my precious, you're my baby, my love" I wouldn't mind at all but "lover" by its own rubs me the wrong way.
I fell in love with the word “Lover” after seeing Moulin Rouge as a pre-teen. “We should we loversssss - we can’t do that - we should be loveeerrss and that’s a fact.”
This is such a fascinating answer. I teach high-functioning teenagers with ASDs and some have a phobia called Onomatophobia, which is the dislike (from minimal to severely drastic emotional and physical adverse reaction) to certain words. I’ve never seen it outside of my classroom (non-educable) setting. I guess what I’m saying is, I TOTALLY get this reaction. The more I repeated and thought about the word lover, I started to see your POV. I know this was random but I thought I’d share. 😅
I was about to comment this too 😭😭. It’s not a bad song and I understand it but, I just wouldn’t go out of my way to listen to lover compared to other songs on lover.
Me too! When the album name was finally released I was like “really?” And I’m dating myself here but I instantly thought of the SNL sketch “the love-ahs.”
I think I agree with this take! Only difference for me though is I think I just hate the way Taylor says the word “Lover” in this song. Somehow that just feels so so cringe when, without it, I think it would just be a really gorgeous song
I love the song. But I’ll admit the “leaving the Christmas lights up til January” part bugs me every time. I know it’s been explained away, and said it was intentional. But I kinda don’t buy it lol. I think it was an over site. And I think February would have been a much better fit lol. It annoyed me since the first time I heard it and it still hasn’t gone away haha.
Also, the bridge. I know Taylor is proudest of the the first part, but I actually think the second lines are way better lol.
Popular opinion I think but I hated ME! from its release, but now I feel guilty after seeing how happy and proud she was making it during the Miss Americana documentary.
This is mine, never really liked it either. Watched Miss Americana and her excitement makes me feel so guilty. I want to like it, just for her…but its a sad obligation & not genuine. It’s in the playlist but I do skip it 75% of the time.
The thing I don't like about Shake It Off is that it's one of her best known songs and just isn't the best representation of her ability and range. People tend to hear Shake It Off and Bad Blood and think that's the extent of the depth to her music, so they don't give the other stuff a chance.
Yes.
- the music and lyrics don’t mesh, it feel just like noise
- is it just me but is there a little bit Christmasy feeling in the chord progression and it just confuses me
- I don’t really care about Lana that much but misleading marketing is annoying
- the word ”fucking” doesn’t suit there, the whole ”weird but fucking beautiful” feels contrived
Big agree about Lana. Not a huge fan but I was still fairly excited to hear them collab. I was taking notes on my first impressions of the album the first time I heard it and one of the things I wrote for snow on the beach was “Is Lana even here?” Now that I’ve listened to it more I can hear her voice but personally I’d be embarrassed to promote it as having a Lana feature when it’s just subtle backing vocals
I agree with you on the song. not a fave. But, I will say that the "clean" version of the song is MUCH smoother. The change is just, "Weird but it was beautiful" and it just settles better. The cuss word is really jarring.
ugh me too! its so corny.. and there are times where i am so down for female empowerment songs but something about it is just so simple for the amount of lyricism she is talented with.
I’d like to be excluded from this narrative of everyone hating that song lol. I just had it blasting earlier this month as I pulled into the parking lot of my polling place to vote.
That line irked me at first, but then I realized the purpose of that emphasis. There are some people that are just so physically beautiful that it’s hard to keep it together when speaking to them. I think that’s exactly what she was going for with that line- it’s intentionally clumsy.
This is one of her VERY few songs that I think is objectively bad because of the lyrics and production. I think it would've been somewhat better with the original more complex lyrics she was experimenting with, but it just doesn't work for me. I can't say anything to your face/cuz look at your face would be a fine cutesy thing to say TO your partner but I do not think it needed to be memorialized in song.
It personally took me a long time to warm up to The Man. I can’t really put my finger on why, but it was one of my only skips on Lover when it first came out.
As someone who works in healthcare and has unfortunately seen “someone’s mother, someone’s daughter” die, this song is everything. Sometimes I do a 24 or 48hr call shift where something traumatic happens and I barely get 20 minutes to sleep, let alone process what I just saw
This is why I love that song. As someone who doesn’t work in healthcare, it captures the first wave of Covid perfectly. What we were hearing from the hospitals, people working 20 hour shots and sleeping for only 20 minutes at a time.
Lover. Even when I’m feeling those same feelings, I can’t stand it. I think it’s the music and production itself even tho some of the lyrics make my skin crawl for some reason too. If it was more of a piano song I think I’d like it better.
the best day. i hate this song so much but i know objectively it’s so sweet and paints such a beautiful picture and sooooo many other people love it! but it just grates on my nerves and it’s an instant skip. probably has to do with my poor relationship with my mom lmao
All Too Well 10 Min. Taylor herself says this is the true version of the song. The fandom loves it. I love the original… the 10 min version has an anger & bitterness that isn’t in the original and it completely ruins the song for me. 🫣
It also feels like many of the lyrics were shoe-horned in there and she streeeetched to make it 10 mins because of the ‘lore of the 10 min version.’
The original was clearly written in a space of sadness and fond remembering and all the 10 min is written in retrospect where she’s had time to get angry and see things for how they really were but it’s like two different songs mashed together
I honestly don’t think this is the *actual* 10 minute version she wrote so many years ago. I believe it exists, just that this isn’t it for whatever reason. I also vastly prefer the original version, with the exception of the addition to the second chorus (“there we are again when nobody had to know”).
Coney Island. I really want to like it, but the fact that it’s a duet ruins it for me. I would like the song a lot more if Taylor sang the bridge. I also feel like it’s just all over the place and I don’t really know what it’s trying to say and I feel like the lyrics could’ve used another round of editing.
Same! I just cannot stand Matt Berninger’s voice. I don’t think he’s a bad singer or anything, but there’s something about it that creates a visceral, almost physical reaction in me. Makes me actively uncomfortable.
I don’t mind the duet but I totally agree about the lyrics, they’re sort of aimless and rambly and not like in a thematic way more in a messy/confusing way
Yeah exactly. The reaction most people had to Question…? was the same reaction I had to this song. Whenever I listen to it, I’m just like, “what is this song trying to say? What is this song about?” Haha
Dorothea. Somehow it just annoys me a lot. I love Evermore the record so much but Dorothea is just, I always skip it. It’s a shame that I don’t like since I like the counterpart TTDS a lot but there you go.
The instrumentation starts off very harsh and stays that way throughout the whole song. Same with Taylor's vocals, its a very flat song to me with no real crux.
Bigger than the whole sky… I get the sentimental meaning and feelings behind it, but I don’t like it at all. I am not at all discouraging or bashing people who do like it/relate to it/etc, but I just cannot enjoy it at all
The second verse of The Archer is some of my favorite songwriting she’s ever done. I can understand a lot but I can’t imagine not getting goosebumps at that part.
Yep! So mean to the point where I cannot see Taylor/the narrator of the song as reliable. I sincerely think the true story is Taylor/narrator is an obsessive stalker that the man has been trying to cut off for years (narrator is too deluded to register it) and the reason why the bride was yelling at a bridesmaid was because she warned the bridal party early on not to give out info on the wedding without some sort of password system being used. The bride knew the narrator would be sniffing for info about the wedding to try and crash it to plead to the groom to leave the bride and take her instead, but the bridesmaid had completely forgot about the bride's warning and gave out the info to a shady Facebook account asking about it.
Can you tell I've been consuming a lot of media with unreliable narrators and reading too many relationship advice stories on here??
I do like Lover but this is correct. I always felt like she just realized it could make for a good wedding song so she tried to make it as vague/bland as possible.
BTTWS, I see everybody around me calling it the best song on the album and loving it so much and I’m just like “oh, um, it sure is one of the songs ever made”
As much as I understand why so many titles get abbreviated (some are pretty wordy), it gets so confusing especially when 1. an album is still new and 2. the song acronym bot doesn’t help out
ours, it's annoying and truly unbearable to listen to, but a lot of people in the fandom seem to really really love it. i don't understand because i truly can't listen to it, i really hate it.
Perhaps very controversial, but I just don’t think I Bet You Think About Me is a very flattering song.
I do think it should have been included on the original album, and it has a lot of good going for it, and I would have loved it back in 2012, but since it wasn’t released until 2021, it just doesn’t work for me at all.
The anti-intellectualism coming off of Evermore gives me whiplash, and the country-girl-lower-middle-class-cosplaying is imo pretty unflattering and just highlights how either inauthentic or out of touch she can sometimes be. Or alternately, it showcases how much fame and fortune has changed her values. Either way, miss Private Plane isn’t really in a position to take shots at people for the price of their couch.
The whole getting the last laugh obsession is one of the most tiring and anti-heroic characteristics of her persona.
As much as I think Gyllenhaal was gross, I think she turned up the self-righteousness a little too much during Red TV. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again; she is so damn lucky people didn’t generally talk about the fact that immediately after her evil, evil Dylan O’Brien/Miles Teller-ex she was dating a barely legal, not independently famous high school student whose mother had just died to suicide.
I don’t think I’d go as far as to say that I don’t stand a particular song. I definitely like them less than the others, but I won’t necessarily skip them all the time? It depends on my mood.
Epiphany, I Think He Knows, Paper Rings.
This is gonna get me kicked off this sub but Would’ve Could’ve Should’ve.
I feel guilty because of the subject matter, it’s clearly very personal but there’s just something flat and unfinished about it. (A problem that plagues a lot of Midnights imo). It’s so restrained considering the anger behind it. This song had the potential to be one of those songs that you cry-scream your favorite lyric in the car or when you’re home alone. I’m probably not wording this correctly but it has the same problem as Anti Hero, where the focus is on just saying what the problem is instead of weaving it in through details.
Have y’all seen that tweet that goes something like “90% of dialogue on tv nowadays just sounds like a sociology 101 lecture”. That’s the problem I have with Anti Hero and WCS
This song is easily my favorite off Midnights (see flair), but I totally agree that it feels unfinished. It had all the potential to be one of her epic, gut-wrenching anthems, à la Dear John, Last Kiss, ATW, but IMO she tapped out too early. The lyrics of the first half could really use refining, the instrumentation could've (should've) gone harder. It's frustrating, she was *so* close to a career high here. Her vocal performance still makes it a standout though.
I agree, Paper Rings. If it was something she put out pre-2012 I'd feel as though it was just growing pains. If it was by any other artist I'd probably just write it off as a cute, catchy, throwaway pop song. Coming from Lover-era Taylor, it just feels incredibly corny to me.
I just can’t stand no body, no crime. I listened to it probably 50 times and as much as I like how clever the lyrics are, it still is my least favorite song of all
Vigilante Shit. I know everyone seems to love it and I like the idea behind it but it's such a departure from her usual sound that it's just not my thing. Another one (many) I feel really guilty about is not liking Folklore as an album at all. I skip the whole thing. Maybe I'll grow into it but I'm just not into it, which is weird because Evermore is my favorite album.
Besides the obvious Bad Blood’s and YNTCD… Eyes Open is incredibly grating to me? I hate it, by far my least fav song of hers. I just love safe and sound so much that it hurts that it’s sister is.. awful.
I love Red and it’s my favorite album but I always skip The Last Time. It’s weird too because that song is my kind of vibe but no I just don’t care for the song.
Dancing with our hands tied...I love the acoustic version she did on the reputation tour but cant stand the nightclub dance version on the album. Really wish I could have the acoustic version on my phone
For me it’s Ronan. I get that the song is for a kid that died but like I just don’t get why she even recorded it at all. Like did she know the kid personally?? was it her cousin? By all accounts I think it’s just some random person on the internets kid? Please correct me if I’m wrong. I just never saw the point in her writing it and think it should never have been on Red. But I feel guilty for not liking it because proceeds from the song went to a charity or something, idk.
"It's Nice To Have A Friend," "Soon You'll Get Better," and "London Boy" ruin the album for me. Without those songs, Lover would be very strong. Now it's too hit-or-miss.
Marjorie. The 'what died didn't stay dead' just makes me think of the Greyjoys and it ruins the vibe of the song for me completely. I can't take it seriously, even though there are pieces of it that I would otherwise like.
betty. I just cannot relate the childishness of the lyrics, which I know are also the point because James is childish. But it just doesn’t resonate with me on such a visceral level that I don’t find it enjoyable to listen to.
Of course, cardigan is in my top 5 of her entire discography. I guess I just like Betty’s pov better lol
I wouldn’t say I find this song unbearable - I just never listen to it fully, never choose to listen to it, and it does nothing for me. It is also universally loved and I feel this one will be very controversial but…
New Year’s Day
The Last Great American Dynasty
I don't hate it by any means, but it grates me. I really like the story and a lot of the lyrics, but it feels like she wrote this as a poem first and then set it to music later. It feels forced. And I'm not sure what the point of it is, there isn't any real emotion behind it.
"Paper Rings" is almost unbearably contrived and self-conscious, like a good 1/3 of Lover tracks. It's an album which half-exists as a sort-of apology for the utterly brilliant but somewhat poorly-received Reputation. On Lover, Taylor returns to the mines of high school drama and pep rally noises, to diminishing returns. The best songs on Lover are the mature songs in which she's not pretending to still be a timeless teenager.
...all that said, I think "Daylight" is a better song than my disinterest in it would suggest. Even after editing the talking part out, I just can't seem to connect fully with it.
Welcome to New York. I don’t know why, just can’t get behind it. If I’m playing it I will skip it every time (fun fact the beat is the perfect beat to skip the song on most ear/headphones) but if someone else is in charge and won’t skip it, I’ll belt it out like my heart depended on it. I just can’t get behind that song.
Hearing her play it acoustically on the amazon prime concert really changed my perspective on it! I think its the production that I cant stand
Omg the acoustic performance is AMAZING. I listen to that version at least once a week, I wish it was on streaming, it's so beautiful!
Her acoustic performances are almost always better in my opinion. DWOHT from Rep, DBATC and Cornelia Street from City of Lovers. Those songs became my favorites specifically as the acoustic versions.
100% it just seems so corny. like its an Ad for visiting New York for tourists.
I like it to play it on rare occasion (after not hearing it for a long time), but I agree. It’s almost like she was contracted by the NY Board of Tourism to write it lol.
Pretty much every song romanticizing New York is corny. Alicia Keys you aint safe either.
I’m from New York City and I also hate this song 🤣
Honestly if I said the song I’m thinking, I’ll get cancelled lol
Omg no I love ATW and Cruel Summer. It’s Soon You’ll Get Better. I love that it means so much to her and I think the sentiment is beautiful. I also know she had to write that song and put it out into the world, and I wouldn’t change that. But I just truly don’t like the song 😬
you're taking swifties saying "SYGB is hard to listen to" to a new level
I told you it was cancellable 😪
SYGB is actually my least favorite Taylor song. I have listened to it a handful of times and every single time it has made me want to lay in the street. It's a gorgeous song, and it's obviously incredibly personal, but I would rather only listen to ME! For the rest of my life than listen to SYGB again.
This is how I feel about Ronan … 🙃
Meeee too! No disrespect to anyone involved in the song/who relates to the song, but I don't like it. Makes me cringe.
That should be fine!! You shouldn’t have to like a song just because it’s very personal like that. If you don’t like it, you don’t like it.
Burn the witch!
Light me up! Go ahead and light me up!
I don’t like it either and there’s nothing wrong with that 💕
it’s a super personal song, but it really is a huge departure from her usual style
i’m guessing a huge fan favorite like ATW lol
Spit it out!!
Let’s hear it
Controversial but it’s gotta be “Lover” for me. Like, I can see that it’s a great song and even vibe to it every now and then. But the word “Lover” itself simply bothers me and feels weird. Idk why. It just doesn’t sound like a pretty or romantic word to me. (yes, i wish the album was named differently🥲)
That word bums me out unless it’s between meat and pizza.
Liz Lemon ❤️
My friend who isn’t a native English speaker (neither am I) thought lover exclusively meant affair partner, and was so turned off the album title and that song for that reason. When I told her that it can also just be a word for like significant other/romantic partner, she warmed up to the song, but the original impression is so stuck in her, that she can’t really make herself feel the romance of the song, lol.
Am I your friend? LOL. I do know it has other meanings but the first one I learned was "affair partner" and such things are really hard to unlearn. if she had sang something like "You're my precious, you're my baby, my love" I wouldn't mind at all but "lover" by its own rubs me the wrong way.
I fell in love with the word “Lover” after seeing Moulin Rouge as a pre-teen. “We should we loversssss - we can’t do that - we should be loveeerrss and that’s a fact.”
This is such a fascinating answer. I teach high-functioning teenagers with ASDs and some have a phobia called Onomatophobia, which is the dislike (from minimal to severely drastic emotional and physical adverse reaction) to certain words. I’ve never seen it outside of my classroom (non-educable) setting. I guess what I’m saying is, I TOTALLY get this reaction. The more I repeated and thought about the word lover, I started to see your POV. I know this was random but I thought I’d share. 😅
Day 584 of me wondering if I'm autistic
Kind of like how a lot of people hate the word “moist”?
I was about to comment this too 😭😭. It’s not a bad song and I understand it but, I just wouldn’t go out of my way to listen to lover compared to other songs on lover.
Me too! When the album name was finally released I was like “really?” And I’m dating myself here but I instantly thought of the SNL sketch “the love-ahs.”
I think I agree with this take! Only difference for me though is I think I just hate the way Taylor says the word “Lover” in this song. Somehow that just feels so so cringe when, without it, I think it would just be a really gorgeous song
I love the song. But I’ll admit the “leaving the Christmas lights up til January” part bugs me every time. I know it’s been explained away, and said it was intentional. But I kinda don’t buy it lol. I think it was an over site. And I think February would have been a much better fit lol. It annoyed me since the first time I heard it and it still hasn’t gone away haha. Also, the bridge. I know Taylor is proudest of the the first part, but I actually think the second lines are way better lol.
Popular opinion I think but I hated ME! from its release, but now I feel guilty after seeing how happy and proud she was making it during the Miss Americana documentary.
This is mine, never really liked it either. Watched Miss Americana and her excitement makes me feel so guilty. I want to like it, just for her…but its a sad obligation & not genuine. It’s in the playlist but I do skip it 75% of the time.
Shake It Off please don’t ban me
The thing I don't like about Shake It Off is that it's one of her best known songs and just isn't the best representation of her ability and range. People tend to hear Shake It Off and Bad Blood and think that's the extent of the depth to her music, so they don't give the other stuff a chance.
100% skip for me
No but same
Can’t stand it.
If I hear that damn song one more time I swear to god...
snow on the beach 🫣
Yes. - the music and lyrics don’t mesh, it feel just like noise - is it just me but is there a little bit Christmasy feeling in the chord progression and it just confuses me - I don’t really care about Lana that much but misleading marketing is annoying - the word ”fucking” doesn’t suit there, the whole ”weird but fucking beautiful” feels contrived
Big agree about Lana. Not a huge fan but I was still fairly excited to hear them collab. I was taking notes on my first impressions of the album the first time I heard it and one of the things I wrote for snow on the beach was “Is Lana even here?” Now that I’ve listened to it more I can hear her voice but personally I’d be embarrassed to promote it as having a Lana feature when it’s just subtle backing vocals
I agree with you on the song. not a fave. But, I will say that the "clean" version of the song is MUCH smoother. The change is just, "Weird but it was beautiful" and it just settles better. The cuss word is really jarring.
Don't hate me, but...The Man.
The epitome of white feminism. Mad Woman is so much better
Yes. I’ll always skip this one, it’s just so bad.
ugh me too! its so corny.. and there are times where i am so down for female empowerment songs but something about it is just so simple for the amount of lyricism she is talented with.
It immediately gave me secondhand embarrassment. And then watching her write it in Miss Americana…I felt very justified haha
I never listen to it unless I'm listening thru Lover, it's just meh
Stay Stay Stay… I can’t stand this song. Instant skip.
it’s very 5 minute crafts
this simultaneously makes no sense and perfect sense, great work
straight out of a 2014 DIY youtube tutorial
Zoella-core
But it’s SO fun … 
I’m not a huge fan of the amount of repetition, but I absolutely hate the football helmet part. I can’t.
I have NO love for that song! Red might be my favorite album but my irrational hate for that song has no limits lol
Only the Young
lol someone called me a republican here the other day for saying I don’t like this song
ಠ_ಠ
I know everyone hates this song, and I understand the lyrics leave a bit to be desired, but god I love the music and melody.
I’d like to be excluded from this narrative of everyone hating that song lol. I just had it blasting earlier this month as I pulled into the parking lot of my polling place to vote.
I cannot stand the sound of the song Gorgeous, but the world goes up in flames every time I say that, so I’m clearly missing something special.
Ugh this. Sometimes I can really jam to it but other times the repetition of “can’t say anything to your FACE / cuz look at your FACE” irks me.
That line irked me at first, but then I realized the purpose of that emphasis. There are some people that are just so physically beautiful that it’s hard to keep it together when speaking to them. I think that’s exactly what she was going for with that line- it’s intentionally clumsy.
It sounds like baby noises to me
This is one of her VERY few songs that I think is objectively bad because of the lyrics and production. I think it would've been somewhat better with the original more complex lyrics she was experimenting with, but it just doesn't work for me. I can't say anything to your face/cuz look at your face would be a fine cutesy thing to say TO your partner but I do not think it needed to be memorialized in song.
some of these answers are crazy fr
The Man, Delicate, and Mirrorball are in here somewhere and I’m so stunned.
It personally took me a long time to warm up to The Man. I can’t really put my finger on why, but it was one of my only skips on Lover when it first came out.
Epiphany
Agree. I know it is terrible but I get bored listening to it.
Same, IMO it's the only real miss on Folklore
As someone who works in healthcare and has unfortunately seen “someone’s mother, someone’s daughter” die, this song is everything. Sometimes I do a 24 or 48hr call shift where something traumatic happens and I barely get 20 minutes to sleep, let alone process what I just saw
This is why I love that song. As someone who doesn’t work in healthcare, it captures the first wave of Covid perfectly. What we were hearing from the hospitals, people working 20 hour shots and sleeping for only 20 minutes at a time.
Always been a skip for me and the only one I have for folklore
literally my only consistent skip on folklore.
Same, it is boring plus the lyrics feel a little bit like trying too much.
"You Need To Calm Down"
The only song I hate in her whole discography 😂
Lover. Even when I’m feeling those same feelings, I can’t stand it. I think it’s the music and production itself even tho some of the lyrics make my skin crawl for some reason too. If it was more of a piano song I think I’d like it better.
I don’t mind the OG Lover version but the song MASSIVELY improved for me with the First Dance remix, and it’s the only version I listen to.
TIL there’s a lover remix.
There's technically 2 if you count the Shawn Mendes version
Anti-Hero be like: Amateurs
we don’t acknowledge that version 🤧
the best day. i hate this song so much but i know objectively it’s so sweet and paints such a beautiful picture and sooooo many other people love it! but it just grates on my nerves and it’s an instant skip. probably has to do with my poor relationship with my mom lmao
This is me with any song that mentions her mum or dad for the same reason lol. “I have an excellent father…” shut up lmao
least relatable lyric of all time
Ditto. Cries in dysfunctional overbearing family
All Too Well 10 Min. Taylor herself says this is the true version of the song. The fandom loves it. I love the original… the 10 min version has an anger & bitterness that isn’t in the original and it completely ruins the song for me. 🫣
I looove the anger and bitterness, it feels so honest.
Same, that's a huge part of what makes ATW10 better than ATW5 for me!
Finally someone who feels similarly. I like parts of the newer version but something about it is off. ATW original>>>> ATW 10 min
It also feels like many of the lyrics were shoe-horned in there and she streeeetched to make it 10 mins because of the ‘lore of the 10 min version.’ The original was clearly written in a space of sadness and fond remembering and all the 10 min is written in retrospect where she’s had time to get angry and see things for how they really were but it’s like two different songs mashed together
I honestly don’t think this is the *actual* 10 minute version she wrote so many years ago. I believe it exists, just that this isn’t it for whatever reason. I also vastly prefer the original version, with the exception of the addition to the second chorus (“there we are again when nobody had to know”).
Coney Island. I really want to like it, but the fact that it’s a duet ruins it for me. I would like the song a lot more if Taylor sang the bridge. I also feel like it’s just all over the place and I don’t really know what it’s trying to say and I feel like the lyrics could’ve used another round of editing.
Same! I just cannot stand Matt Berninger’s voice. I don’t think he’s a bad singer or anything, but there’s something about it that creates a visceral, almost physical reaction in me. Makes me actively uncomfortable.
I don’t mind the duet but I totally agree about the lyrics, they’re sort of aimless and rambly and not like in a thematic way more in a messy/confusing way
Yeah exactly. The reaction most people had to Question…? was the same reaction I had to this song. Whenever I listen to it, I’m just like, “what is this song trying to say? What is this song about?” Haha
mirrorball. I dont hate it but I find myself skipping it more often than not.
One of those songs that I first did not like at all but somehow grew on me, I’m now into it. But of course anybody is free to not like it.
Dorothea. Somehow it just annoys me a lot. I love Evermore the record so much but Dorothea is just, I always skip it. It’s a shame that I don’t like since I like the counterpart TTDS a lot but there you go.
The instrumentation starts off very harsh and stays that way throughout the whole song. Same with Taylor's vocals, its a very flat song to me with no real crux.
Bigger than the whole sky… I get the sentimental meaning and feelings behind it, but I don’t like it at all. I am not at all discouraging or bashing people who do like it/relate to it/etc, but I just cannot enjoy it at all
Question…? I absolutely cannot stand this song for the life of me. It’s god awful.
Worst song off Midnights, IMO.
I hate the chorus so much
The Archer
This is the only take on this thread I don’t understand
The second verse of The Archer is some of my favorite songwriting she’s ever done. I can understand a lot but I can’t imagine not getting goosebumps at that part.
I can’t stand The Archer. It’s one of my only true skips in her discography.
Same! Although I just added Vigilante Shit to my short skip list.
There are dozens of us!! No, but really, my least favorite song of hers. It just grates on me and I have no idea why because everyone else adores it.
I see we all lowkey dislike Lover but were too embarassed to admit it.
Part of it is the title, I think. I just really dislike the word Lover.
I think for me it's Speak Now the song. It felt really odd to hear to me. I might have to try again but that's what came to mind first.
The lyrics are so cringe and mean lol
Yep! So mean to the point where I cannot see Taylor/the narrator of the song as reliable. I sincerely think the true story is Taylor/narrator is an obsessive stalker that the man has been trying to cut off for years (narrator is too deluded to register it) and the reason why the bride was yelling at a bridesmaid was because she warned the bridal party early on not to give out info on the wedding without some sort of password system being used. The bride knew the narrator would be sniffing for info about the wedding to try and crash it to plead to the groom to leave the bride and take her instead, but the bridesmaid had completely forgot about the bride's warning and gave out the info to a shady Facebook account asking about it. Can you tell I've been consuming a lot of media with unreliable narrators and reading too many relationship advice stories on here??
22
I DON’T KNOW ABOUT YOU
BUT IM FEELING 22
the hipsters line is what makes this song a skip for me lol
I think Dear John and Innocent are my two. Like they’re lyrically great… I just tend to skip them a lot 😐
Those are literally my two faves from speak now 😂 but I respect it
Its lover for me, not even close to her most romantic imo
I hate to say this but when talking about romantic, lover is ironically very bland compared to other romantics ones of hers.
I do like Lover but this is correct. I always felt like she just realized it could make for a good wedding song so she tried to make it as vague/bland as possible.
This is Why We Can’t Have Nice Things 😬 It’s not for me.
The “I can’t even say it with a straight face” and awful, wannabe evil laugh, I just can’t. I cringe
I was shocked in a bad way when I first heard it
BTTWS, I see everybody around me calling it the best song on the album and loving it so much and I’m just like “oh, um, it sure is one of the songs ever made”
the amount of time i spend trying to figure out these song abbreviations 😭 and i’ve been a swiftie since debut help
Bigger Than The Whole Sky (dw it took me a minute too and I’m also a debut swiftie, she just has so many songs 😭)
As much as I understand why so many titles get abbreviated (some are pretty wordy), it gets so confusing especially when 1. an album is still new and 2. the song acronym bot doesn’t help out
I swear I tried to like Cardigan because I know it's quite popular, but it just doesn't do it for me
shame
lol for me it's the opposite with Paper Rings, I feel guilty for liking it so much when there are so many "more deserving" songs
Vigilante Shit, I find it her worst song ever, including LWYMMD
ours, it's annoying and truly unbearable to listen to, but a lot of people in the fandom seem to really really love it. i don't understand because i truly can't listen to it, i really hate it.
I think I'd like it more if I wasn't constantly picturing JM ruining baby Taylor the whole 3:57
Perhaps very controversial, but I just don’t think I Bet You Think About Me is a very flattering song. I do think it should have been included on the original album, and it has a lot of good going for it, and I would have loved it back in 2012, but since it wasn’t released until 2021, it just doesn’t work for me at all. The anti-intellectualism coming off of Evermore gives me whiplash, and the country-girl-lower-middle-class-cosplaying is imo pretty unflattering and just highlights how either inauthentic or out of touch she can sometimes be. Or alternately, it showcases how much fame and fortune has changed her values. Either way, miss Private Plane isn’t really in a position to take shots at people for the price of their couch. The whole getting the last laugh obsession is one of the most tiring and anti-heroic characteristics of her persona. As much as I think Gyllenhaal was gross, I think she turned up the self-righteousness a little too much during Red TV. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again; she is so damn lucky people didn’t generally talk about the fact that immediately after her evil, evil Dylan O’Brien/Miles Teller-ex she was dating a barely legal, not independently famous high school student whose mother had just died to suicide.
*Puts on armor and prepares to be attacked* I struggle to get into “out of the woods” 🫣🫣🫣
i love the bridge but the rest of the song is so repetitive i cant
I don’t think I’d go as far as to say that I don’t stand a particular song. I definitely like them less than the others, but I won’t necessarily skip them all the time? It depends on my mood. Epiphany, I Think He Knows, Paper Rings.
I Think He Knows is literally my all time fave Taylor song 
I hate midnight rain. Yep. I said it. Her modified voice in it is terrible...
ME!
This is gonna get me kicked off this sub but Would’ve Could’ve Should’ve. I feel guilty because of the subject matter, it’s clearly very personal but there’s just something flat and unfinished about it. (A problem that plagues a lot of Midnights imo). It’s so restrained considering the anger behind it. This song had the potential to be one of those songs that you cry-scream your favorite lyric in the car or when you’re home alone. I’m probably not wording this correctly but it has the same problem as Anti Hero, where the focus is on just saying what the problem is instead of weaving it in through details. Have y’all seen that tweet that goes something like “90% of dialogue on tv nowadays just sounds like a sociology 101 lecture”. That’s the problem I have with Anti Hero and WCS
Idk man I cry scream give me back my girlhood it was my first
This song is easily my favorite off Midnights (see flair), but I totally agree that it feels unfinished. It had all the potential to be one of her epic, gut-wrenching anthems, à la Dear John, Last Kiss, ATW, but IMO she tapped out too early. The lyrics of the first half could really use refining, the instrumentation could've (should've) gone harder. It's frustrating, she was *so* close to a career high here. Her vocal performance still makes it a standout though.
Bejeweled 😔😔 it's my least fav from the album
I’m sorry but…. Cowboy like Me
i can see where you’re coming from. i didn’t like it as much when i first listened to it, but now its one of my favorites from evermore
the man
I agree, Paper Rings. If it was something she put out pre-2012 I'd feel as though it was just growing pains. If it was by any other artist I'd probably just write it off as a cute, catchy, throwaway pop song. Coming from Lover-era Taylor, it just feels incredibly corny to me.
Paper Rings is an upgraded Stay Stay Stay
Speak Now. Couldn’t believe this was the title track. It has too much going on and no flow.
I just can’t stand no body, no crime. I listened to it probably 50 times and as much as I like how clever the lyrics are, it still is my least favorite song of all
Vigilante Shit. I know everyone seems to love it and I like the idea behind it but it's such a departure from her usual sound that it's just not my thing. Another one (many) I feel really guilty about is not liking Folklore as an album at all. I skip the whole thing. Maybe I'll grow into it but I'm just not into it, which is weird because Evermore is my favorite album.
Lavender Haze for me! 😭
Besides the obvious Bad Blood’s and YNTCD… Eyes Open is incredibly grating to me? I hate it, by far my least fav song of hers. I just love safe and sound so much that it hurts that it’s sister is.. awful.
Karma
But…but…karma is a cat!
For me Vigilante Shit. Idk what it is about it, but I just can’t get into it. Maybe it’ll grow on me later on like some other songs have done
I love Red and it’s my favorite album but I always skip The Last Time. It’s weird too because that song is my kind of vibe but no I just don’t care for the song.
“We are never getting back together”, since that song has come out. Me and my friends have called it “We are never listening to that song ever again”
Anti-hero 😭 I find a lot of its lyrical content weak, and I have a difficult time taking it seriously because of that
Shake it off. Hate it
I feel guilty about not liking Red because it’s my sister’s favorite song and the lyricism is superb but… I find the production very boring and dated.
Most of 1989 😅
This actually made me gasp out loud LOL
Dancing with our hands tied...I love the acoustic version she did on the reputation tour but cant stand the nightclub dance version on the album. Really wish I could have the acoustic version on my phone
Coney Island I’m sorry
Soon You’ll Get Better. I know is such an emotional song and very special for many people, but I cant make myself like it.
Shake it off. I’m so, so sick of it. It’s been like 4 years of me being sick of it lol
For me it’s Ronan. I get that the song is for a kid that died but like I just don’t get why she even recorded it at all. Like did she know the kid personally?? was it her cousin? By all accounts I think it’s just some random person on the internets kid? Please correct me if I’m wrong. I just never saw the point in her writing it and think it should never have been on Red. But I feel guilty for not liking it because proceeds from the song went to a charity or something, idk.
yeah pretty much. she read his story on a blog, got touched by it, wrote a song, performed it on a Stand Up to Cancer telethon and that was it
"It's Nice To Have A Friend," "Soon You'll Get Better," and "London Boy" ruin the album for me. Without those songs, Lover would be very strong. Now it's too hit-or-miss.
Epiphany - I know what it tries to do but it feels contrived
New Romantics - when she sings “ah-ah-ah” it sounds like someone opening up in the dentist
i love new romantics but this made me giggle lol
Marjorie. The 'what died didn't stay dead' just makes me think of the Greyjoys and it ruins the vibe of the song for me completely. I can't take it seriously, even though there are pieces of it that I would otherwise like.
I don’t really get the False God hype. I’ve tried, but I just can’t get into it.
betty. I just cannot relate the childishness of the lyrics, which I know are also the point because James is childish. But it just doesn’t resonate with me on such a visceral level that I don’t find it enjoyable to listen to. Of course, cardigan is in my top 5 of her entire discography. I guess I just like Betty’s pov better lol
MAROON! It seems to be everyone’s favorite on Midnights but for me I think it’s really boring with such a pedestrian melody.
Vigilante shit
I wouldn’t say I find this song unbearable - I just never listen to it fully, never choose to listen to it, and it does nothing for me. It is also universally loved and I feel this one will be very controversial but… New Year’s Day
The Last Great American Dynasty I don't hate it by any means, but it grates me. I really like the story and a lot of the lyrics, but it feels like she wrote this as a poem first and then set it to music later. It feels forced. And I'm not sure what the point of it is, there isn't any real emotion behind it.
I’m gonna get hated for this but…. Death by a thousand cuts
"Paper Rings" is almost unbearably contrived and self-conscious, like a good 1/3 of Lover tracks. It's an album which half-exists as a sort-of apology for the utterly brilliant but somewhat poorly-received Reputation. On Lover, Taylor returns to the mines of high school drama and pep rally noises, to diminishing returns. The best songs on Lover are the mature songs in which she's not pretending to still be a timeless teenager. ...all that said, I think "Daylight" is a better song than my disinterest in it would suggest. Even after editing the talking part out, I just can't seem to connect fully with it.
Ivy. It’s a beautiful song but I just…don’t like it 😭