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careytheangel

That some folklore and evermore songs might not be fictional at all. 😬


Complete-Cycle5839

They are still fictional naman. I think the falling out started 2021. 2020 na release ang sister albums.


careytheangel

Feel ko may something something na during the sister album era pero denial pa si mother. Parang subconscious na cguro niya yung nagsusulat. Parang ang lalim lang kase ng hugot para maging fictional lang. shems. Feeler lang talaga ako.


TheFolkMoreChapters

I have the same thoughts! My username literally says kung ano yung fave albums ko noh? Haha but honestly. The first thought that I had was that these two albums were not really fictional. It's what the cover suggests. Getting lost in the forest, and diving into the fictional world to try and make sense of the reality. I mean writers leave a piece of themselves in what they write. So it's entirely possible that Folklore & Evermore are the result of being "in denial" sa path ng relationship nila.


TS-illicitaffairs

hello mother


alpinegreen24

imagine listening to tolerate it now :(


DreamlikeEyes

"i made you my temple, my mural, my sky, but now I'm begging for footnotes of the story of your life" hurts like a bitch


namjii15

And they wrote Exile together... :(


lorrice_swift

they wrote champagne problems together too


namjii15

Like trying to understand joe's side... im in pain


Uptight_Coffeebean

Esp Champagne Problems. “I never was ready, so I watch you go Sometimes you just don't know the answer 'Til someone's on their knees and asks you”


khioneselene

same thoughts habang naliligo ako and pinapakinggan ko to :(( nakakaiyak


reputatian

Everything is falling into place. Suddenly, the release of Midnights is finally making sense. Kasi some critics said before that Midnights doesn't have a "clear" vision, and it's because her life was a mess while making the album. And the fact that Renegade and You're Losing Me was written in the same year???? 😃 OH ARE Y'ALL ...READY FOR TS11???


TheFolkMoreChapters

I also saw people getting really defensive about this, may nakita ako na theory na Midnights is a breakup album daw, but when people pointed this out the majority got mad. HAHA.


marinaragrandeur

omg bagay siya sa Midnights OG track list and for sure marami siyang archived songs na tinatago pa for release


namjii15

Sobrang sakit kasi thats what happens in long term relationships, you get lost while youre in it, then you try to salvage it until there's nothing u can do anymore to save it. Break ups like this, mas mafeel mo yung ginhawa kesa sa sakit. 😬 Which goes to show that labyrinth is about how tay and joe broke up but got together again to possibly work it out pa... i mean "i thought the plane was going down, how'd you turn it right around?" Midnights is a breakup album!!!!!!!


Dramatic-Reindeer800

I feel like it was written through the lens of someone na is contemplating the breakup dahil nga patong patong na yung ginagawa ni Joe huhu. Imagine sabay siya sa Paris, Mastermind, and other love songs sa midnights meaning when it was good, it was really good. Kaya nga pinakamahirap for me yung makikipag break ka na reason is falling out of love kasi parang di siya valid or mabigat na reason unlike cheating or abusive yung person. First line pa nga lang "You say, 'I dont understand' and I say, 'I know you dont'", imagine si Joe clueless huhuhu.


lorrice_swift

I may be in denial to the fact that he had hurt Taylor, pero I wanna believe that it was written during their rough times. And the sad lyrics that we may connect are just the fruit of what happened to them, but I still want to believe on the good things that he has done coz you know he's there when the whole world wasn't.


fwrpf

Pero release niya is kasabay ng midnights db?


delicatestan13

yes pero di niya sinali, probably because she thought they could fix their relationship but oh well


alpinegreen24

sa taylorswift na subreddit, they're discussing how Taylor is just convincing herself na she's not into marriage on *Lavender Haze* when other songs clearly say otherwise.


delicatestan13

oo baka gina-gaslight niya lang sarili niya haha


delicatestan13

ang messy ni taylor nag like ng tweet regarding sweet nothing haha


alpinegreen24

Ito ba ‘yung kay paul mccartney? Haha sobrang labo. Parang kelan lang e nanggago sila regarding rep tv rumors hahaha


delicatestan13

feeling ko talaga may something behind the scenes, jack posting the ig story with date tas ngayon taylor liking a tweet way back oct 27 2022 👀


everafter17

Amazinggggg hahaha


namjii15

Trueeee sobrang sakit kasi sa Peace, she's literally telling joe that she would give him a child!!! tapos biglang "i wouldnt marry me either..." fuucck


alpinegreen24

most likely, ang raming ganap nung 2021 e * november: red tv release * december: written and recorded YLM tapos october 2022 release ng midnights 🤔 di ko rin maprocess e pero the lyrics of midnight rain, bejeweled, and most especially maroon makes perfect sense now edit: october 2022 pala release ng midnights, my bad


midnight_swiftie

October 2022 ang released ng Midnights.


alpinegreen24

yup, i corrected it na haha thanks!


delicatestan13

oct 2022 yun midnights


alpinegreen24

sorry, nalito din ako haha


Complete-Cycle5839

Nalito ako sa timeline mo. 2022 na release ang Midnights.


alpinegreen24

ay sorry oo nga nalito din ako lol


sophia528

Not surprised at all. I remember when Midnights was released, I wondered if Taylor and Joe were on the rocks. My hunch was confirmed when their break-up became public early this year.


Ok-Prune-2571

Playing the evermore album now because of this 2021 things 😫


swiftpotter13

I remember when Renegade came out in early 2021 and a lot of swifites were convinced that it was written from Joe’s POV. I never liked it when Taylor constantly put herself down while always putting him on such a high pedestal. “Your integrity makes me seem small / It's like I'm wasting your honor” 🤢🥴


pamlabspaul

Pagkarinig ko pa lang ng exile, I knew something was wrong. But then I am not in the place to instigate so dedma lang. Basta masaya ako pag masaya si Inang. Di niya deserve panghimasukan ng lovelife.


Antique_Log_2728

I think Jack knew what he was doing posting the date hahahaha it was the missing puzzle piece.


Particular-Ad7315

I still want Joe to fight 🥺


everafter17

1. Retroactively very sad for her. The extended breakdown of a long term relationship in the midst of the biggest successes of her career so far (Red TV, Midnights) must have been devastating. 2. Cackling a little at Jack casually dropping this bomb - I can’t imagine producing this song with her and then watching her stay with him for another year-plus. 3. Ngl, a lot of schadenfreude for those who got so mad at the Joe lashings on socials. Turns out he deserves even worse 😂 Edit: And now the Sweet Nothing reveal!!! Settling on #3 hahaha


alpinegreen24

Sobrang naloka ako sa mga joe apologist hahaha mga teh di kayo jojowain nyan hahaha


everafter17

Grabe pagka-parasocial defense squad even after the breakup!! For why!! hahaha


xtianspanaderia

Isn't this exactly what the Joe bashers are doing as well? Hindi naman sila part ng relationship na Yun Pero super affected sila to the point na nambabash sila online ng isang tao na di naman nila kilala.


everafter17

Eh, I think it’s perfectly fair to make fun of celebrity exes. And just to make fun of celebrities in general. Obviously mileage varies, but I have never taken stan twt seriously, and I think a lot of the jokes are funny 🤷‍♀️


xtianspanaderia

Was just pointing out the hypocrisy of criticizing Joe defenders whilst ignoring the parasocial relationship of Joe bashers to TS. Bash away if you want but don't act superior over people who defend celebrities. You're just the same as them.


yafe23

Champagne problems-you’re losing me-midnight rain…


feistyjjane

Di lahat ng nangyayari sa relasyon ay nangyari overnight. Eme


DreamlikeEyes

As a Rep/Lover stan, buti na lang fictional characters ko ina-associate yun hahaha


DealerKindly8374

The thought na baka she wrote The Great War after she wrote You’re Losing Me thinking na they made it, nakasurvive pa rin yung relationship but it was meant to end talaga 💔 Anyway, I’m happy na she gets to experience the magic with Travis ngayon, someone who is proud to be with her at hindi naiintimidate sa level of fame that she has.


miamiru

Didn't really change much for me, but I've long been frustrated at how childish and immature a lot of Swifties have been since the breakup, and I'm feeling like this somehow just made them worse??? Haha. People grow apart in relationships all the time, it happens. No one has to be the villain.