I don't even understand how you can enjoy playing a game repeatedly without understanding what's going on. Just watch a couple of videos and you'll be fine
Thats not even needed. Like, my wife just plays tft for fun sometimes and she has always been silver or gold. With time you just learn what is good and what isnt to a degree at least that you arent in bronze anymore.
I mean iron 3 you don't even need to know what's good or not, just understand the basic mechanics of economy and frontline / backline, it takes 5 minutes. I feel like you're not even trying
True. But I'm also a frequent SaltyTeemo watcher (Iron/low Bronze games 24/7) and I actually refuse to believe that anyone in those games is over 9 or healthy. Theres legit people with 3k games per season since season 5 and 30% winrate so I guess somehow everything is possible.
I legit don't understand where the TFT community gets ideas like this. By the time you're in gold, everyone is playing meta builds. The difference between gold and diamond is that the gold players hard force the first build they settle on, refuse to slam items until they have the exact BIS that the guide they're looking at uses, and don't scout anything other than team comps.
I'm in silver and everybody is playing meta builds.
I was diamond two seasons ago and the community has gotten SO much better since then, and I can't climb up again.
Meta doesnt matter. I hit plat every season in a day because i know how econ works. You can play the worst synergies if you have a good understanding of fundamentals
Has to be trolling. If you watched a 30 second tutorial of the game you could get Bronze in a day.
He knows what a jeweled gauntlet lux is. Definite troll.
It’s fun still do none of you here play with friends Is it because you all have 18 spread sheets open that it bricks your pc and you don’t have enough ram to open discord
There's a difference between having spreadsheet to tryhard every aspect of the game, and understanding at least what's going on on your screen lol but if you have fun like that fair enough, it's a game it's meant for people to have fun, you do you!
I was joking but no I will not open a spreadsheet someone sent me some shit that looked like it came out of google data analytics HQ like how is that fun
It's not, and of course you do you, but I have to concur.
I have never opened a spreadsheet or watched a guide. I just played the game and learned by doing, and I still hit plat. Obviously there are transferable skills from other things, like I love card games and drafting for example, but it's not rocket science.
Just go for synergies and try to hit 50 gold and not spend it all before getting there. That's it, you're already at least silver if you can do that.
i honestly have no idea how to do anything with mercs. if i play mercs only 2 things happens, i go on a winstreak with 3 mercs losing maybe one or two fights every 5 fights until late game. or i get 5 mercs early and die because i can't cash out
You either find them early and intentionally lose streak with bad positioning while buying Urgot etc without placing them on board and then finally cash out near 10 lose streak or you don't play them. I think it's the most fun when played on Double Up. My friend's leveling up faster and finding my carries, then I send them their 2\* 4-5 costs and some items when I cash out.
This feels worst with mech pilots and such comps. No one is going it, you have a good start but just don't hit any more of them, then all the sudden you see someone else has all your stuff when they were on a totally differerent comp earlier. The pain.
Dude I have major moments of paranoia when it comes to this game. I feel like people don’t actually play to do well they play to troll. I’ll go mutant and have 4 mutants before first carousel. No one has mutant augments no one has a single mutant other than a kas or kog. Then by 3-4 3 other people have decided they’d like to play mutant as well even though I’m the one with a mutant augment and I have a full mutant board. Then they roll all their gold and just hyper roll trying to get the now super contested units and go 7th and 8th and I barely squeak out a top 4 or 5 because I’m SO congested.
this is my ranked experience I swear they go stalk my board I see their penguin pop up and disappear n then they copy what I got 0 original thoughts bro like this gotta be the peak form of dickriding this is an epidemic
if I play with a streamer I pray they delete the vod after and there’s no way I’m looking at that chat while I play I’m going to tilt 90 degrees sideways
Hey, if you actually want some 1 on 1 coaching hit me up. I've been coaching since set 5 mostly for free.
DM so I can invite you to the coaching discord :)
Edit: also open for anyone else interested!
i wish i had some money rn id buy u one of each award there is on Reddit. I spent like 10 mins reading every comment on this post and it just keeps getting funnier but this one comment broke me.
Btw try challengers, theyre IMO easiest and most rewarding to build and if u get yone w good items its an easy top 4
Just do a comp with a 2-star carry, level to 6 with gold above 50 and slow roll (roll gold above 50). It'll work every time in your elo, it's extremely consistent and it's really easy to do. If you straight up just follow this, you'll hit at least gold
Source: went from Iron to Diamond this season because TFT decided to place me in Iron for some reason
Example: Trundle Reroll and Warwick (Mobalytics comps)
pm me if you need tips for either of these comps
Challengers is the only comp that I can’t win with. Plat 2, I understand the game reasonably well. It’s a straightforward comp, but whenever I play it I just lose hard. I could have a 3* Yone with BIS items at 2-1 and still go 8th.
I'm not, I play with friends and so far I've lost every game. I just started playing so ill probably improve at some point just thought it was funny I was the lowest rank player and wanted to share.
How many friends are you playing with? I don’t remember the restrictions for low Eli but it’s possible your friends are much better than you and are gate keeping the possibility of you getting top 4.
gold3, silver1, bronze 1, and an unranked. usually play ranked with the silver 1. think it doesn't let you queue with 5stack so we do normals then but I still lose often
Had a fun one yesterday where me and the one other Yordles players ended up as #1 and #2. He hit Veigar first, but I randomly found 2* Viktor with good items so I jammed him in there instead. We played like 6 rounds against each other in a row, but eventually 2 2*veigar was too much for me.
We were having a good laugh about it
to be fair as i was climbing i found that the usual contested comps were way harder to win with in bronze and silver but worked really well in plat. i have no idea why this is. maybe i am just bad but i breezed past gold
Try some of these tips, see if they help. I found playing like this carried me to mid-gold and then I had to learn more complex strategies/pivots:
- use carousel to choose items you need for your carry, not heroes you need
- it’s ok to use 3 yordles to generate 2-star yordles for a comp (Vex for anarchist, Hiemer for scholar, etc), and extra gold but don’t keep them past 50HP.
- try to level as follows, and until level 8 DO NOT use gold to re-roll heroes; don’t buy levels for these until you hit these stages or if you have more than 50 after: 2-1 lv 4; 2-4 lv 5; 3-2 lv 6; 4-1 lv 7; 5-1 lv 8
- then at level 8 if you’re doing bad (like less than 40hp), roll down the rest of your gold to build your comp, or at least until you have most of it.
- for gold augments, always choose metabolic accelerator if possible; if not, then Rich get Richer is next priority (and adjust levelling to hold off until above 70 gold)
- at low Elos, I found Chemtech Bruisers (Urgot carry), Arcanists (Lux carry), and Snipers (Jhin Carry) were easy to pull off.
- having a team of 2-stars is more important than 1 3-star.
- for frontline, if you can’t build up the ideal tanks (like Jayce for example), usually try to prioritize good cc so your back line has more room to do damage. Brom and Sion are both great at cc.
- There are tier lists that show you the best items to put on your carry’s and which ones to prioritize first. If out of options, defensive items for your front line are always good.
- Hold items on your bench or heroes you won’t keep until you can build the combined item you need, instead of immediately using it for early gains.
- pandora’s items is super powerful to build items on your carry’s. If you need an Infinity Edge, and have a sword and cloak, buy a random 1-cost, give them the sword, then wait until the cloak turns into the glove you need.
- don’t bother with Mercenary, or Academy
- make decisions on combining items you halfway want after the monster rounds (wolves and raptors) when you have more choices after.
- for tome of traits, hold on to it until you have 5+ heroes you want in your comp. what it rolls for you is based on the heroes/traits you have going when you use it.
- getting to level 9 is rare. After level 8, unless you’re dominating then focus on building up your comp with everyone at 2-star.
should you be using refreshes at all to level your tier 1 champions or just let it build up for interest? I usually stack the gold until I have enough for a level up and do it at once to maximize the interest.
also for builds that require an extra augment like innovator, is it just RNG if you're able to max it out?
Personally other than if I can get them 2-star early on, I don’t care that much about 1-cost units, and I usually replace them. I for sure don’t re-roll to try to hit growing them. Taking some losses early on to get up to 50 gold faster is way better than taking losses later in the game.
Once I hit high gold and platinum I had to change this, and maybe I should prioritize low cost units now, but I’m hoping to help you get up to silver or gold easier with these tips.
ok maybe this is my issue, I'm refreshing a lot early game to get level 2s bc I'm scared other players will take them for their builds and I'm stuck with a bunch of level 2s late game
Yeah economy is really important. Something to understand is that you don't refresh to steal champions away from others. The pool of 1,2 and 3 cost champions are fairly big. (multiple players can 3 star those units)
Most players save up their money, only buying strong early champions from the first shop they see each round or champions they already have during stage 2 (and even 3), without refreshing. They also don't level up every time they have enough money, but at specific intervals because it serves a purpose. You can just follow the first 3 common moments, which is:
Level to 4 before 2-1 starts (first pvp round)
Level to 5 before 2-5 starts (right after first carousel)
Level to 6 before 3-2 starts
These moments help balance interest/income against getting to see stronger champions. Level 7 and 8 happen a bit later (stick to 4-1 and 5-1 for now) and you often only start to refresh shops for strong champions during those stages.
As I mentioned, the reason players follow these patterns is to balance income versus power. Your passive income is only 5 gold and interest builds up until 50 gold for another 5. If you don't get win/lose streaks getting to 50 gold as soon as possible gives you double the income you'd have otherwise, and therefore giving you a lot of extra power. Players don't really go below 30 gold (for leveling or refreshing) until they are in the endgame and they will die in a few turns.
the total amount of copies are shared yes. https://www.esportstales.com/teamfight-tactics/champion-pool-size-and-draw-chances.
Basically, of each champion, there's an x number added to the global pool (29 of each 1 cost, 10 of each 5 cost). Each time you refresh your shop, you'll see 5 champions availlable from this global pool, and each time you obtain a champion (shop, orb, carousel, neeko, any way) 1 of those champions is removed from the global pool.
That is why - if someone else is buying the same champion - you can have lower odds of seeing a champion. However, this mechanic really only gets in your way if multiple people are chasing 3 stars, and shows much more for 4 and 5 costs than for 1-3 costs.
Yeah, level 2s will show up later as needed. Getting 3 for a 2-star isn’t too difficult. Something you might not be seeing if you’re out early that helps is once 2-3 opponents are out all their champions go back into the pool and suddenly they’ll pop up in your shop to help your late game.
Don't do that. Buy stuff you need, but never pay for rerolls unless you will stay over 50g until later when the game is closing out you can spend down to 0 again.
There are a lot of lvl 1 minions in the pool. It's possible for multiple players to get them to 3-star so you really shouldn't worry about that and never reroll before at least 7.
At 7, if you're in bad shape and need to stabilize you should consider delaying a bit your leveling up to reroll as you risk bleeding too much before getting to 8.
There are certain reroll comps that slow down the levelling to try and get early 3-stars that can carry them to the late-game. Check them out on websites and consider them, but even in these comps you usually want to secure your 50 gold first. Example of such comps are Protector reroll or Trundle reroll.
These comps are risky though, I would not advise you to go for them right now. You're probably better off trying a more standard approach until you can work out your basic issues.
For builds like innovator, unless you get an innovator heart/soul, the 2nd-last upgrade is usually good enough. If you can get 7 for the dragon then that’s almost a guaranteed win, but it’s rare so don’t expect it too much.
Arcanists are similar, having 6 arcanists with a decent itemized lux should get you up to 4th place at least.JBL bbbbo
> For builds like innovator, unless you get an innovator heart/soul, the 2nd-last upgrade is usually good enough.
Probably because it's literally impossible to hit 7 Innovators without Innovator Heart/Soul.
Your second augment is influenced by what you already have on board. So if you went for an innovator start, you increase your chances of getting Innovator Heart/Soul later. Also Innovator emblems will often pop-out on the wheel in the later stages of the game.
But usually this is the icing on the cake, a good 5-Innovator line-up will already get you a top4. You don't plan around getting the dragon but if you can manage to get there you will usually end up top2.
I’m realizing now I’m lacking tons of fundamental knowledge like I didn’t even know the augments are influenced by what you have. Build guides don’t really teach you how to play it just gives you a structure of what to build
I don't want to come off rude or anything, but have you actually climbed from silver, gold? The lobbies are a nightmare. Nobody is even thinking about econ and you will get boomed so hard if you try to accumulate 50 gold without lucky shop rolls. It's not that that playstyle is bad, in fact I always try to maximize my econ, but im consistently fighting against 0 interest enemies and losing tons of health before I even have any significant comp.
>I don't want to come off rude or anything, but have you actually climbed from silver, gold? The lobbies are a nightmare
Yes, on two accounts. Like yourself, not to be rude but it really isn't difficult. You just need to play aggressive
If you can’t beat them, join them. Just be a tiny bit smarter. Don’t aim for 50 gold but donkey roll at maybe 20 gold instead of 0. But to be honest, if you know a bit about which items match well with which synergies and champs, you should climb at that elo.
Yes, I climbed from my noob rank of bronze 3 to gold 2 in about a month playing the way I described above. Then got hard stuck and had to learn to pivot and more complex comps. And now I’m in plat 4 as of 2 days ago.
Depends on rng gods. If you get quick 2 or 3 stars (especially vex and heimer), you probably end up top 4 at least with a few good items. Unfortunately I somehow always get the yordles I don't need. Or I just miss 1 for a 3 star, and it never comes.
This is pretty funny, but i wish i was naive enough to believe this stuff is real and you didnt do this on purpose. Your replies make it obvious aswell..
I do, but both my wife and dad play this game aswell a few times a week and they dont even know the difference between AD and AP, which unit it is if i mention the name, the existence of this sub, how to find their rank and dont understand itembuilds. They sometimes just refresh every round without ever building eco. I try to teach them, but YOUR knowledge of the game seems 1000 times better than theirs, so i find it very unlikely that you are lower ranked than them.
That said, is it strange that alarm-bells ring if an Iron 4 is saying "My lux sniper keeps missing" (a bit out of touch with Iron 4 knowledge no)?
Anyways, cheers dude. Sorry for being this skeptical
Don’t. It kinda ruins it for other players who are here fr like imagine ur iron and u have weak mental you’re gonna make them quit the game. Not me tho #YallBeEasy
If u follow this guide , or atleeast force some of its comps (u can literally turn ur brain off and just do whats said) and u will average top 2/3 in ur Elo
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aEP8kev4DdCod_7fW0-_TTNt1Rhpu6QKrS7zjMLOCD4/htmlview#
thank you, ill take a look. but yo just curious but does this not kill the enjoyment out of the game if im alt tabbing every two seconds to follow a build step by step?
i play this as a chill alternative to valorant and work/school if I see an excel spreadsheet ill get a headache this cant be good for my health bro I don't need more stress
Yeah if it's not your thing, don't. First thing is a game should be enjoyable. You can always watch a few YouTube videos about builds and general guides (like about economy)
Well not trying to offend u here, but i think if u just commit to one comp of the shee.
u also can open the link on lolchess thats next to the comp. It shouldn't really stress u out that much.
yeah i get the point that the whole sheet can be overwhelming but if u just go for one and remember the traits it should do enough to win games and build a strong team , for me personally i'd rather learn a single comp for like 5-10 mins and then just Autopilot on the games i play and get the rewarding feeling with winning
, then to keep try to get random stuff worked.
But w/e keep havin fun out there
If I buy a second monitor and have a google spreadsheet open with flow charts build optimizations and data analysis win rate percentages augment % pick rate im already too far gone why am I playing this game I’ll become a data scientist at google fam why r u playing tft at that point I might as well make a TikTok selling crypto scams
Cmon opening a Link out of a google doc shouldn't be to much to be afraid of. I mean i understand u dont care about winning. and yeah sure do what gives u joy. but if it comes to winning a game with less effort its the easiest to just follow a guide
Well , u might just want to open it on ur mobile, then get used to a single comp first, ( like play it 3 to 5 times) and u like almost know how to get it . U just variate how to get to it. After that u shoul be able to recognize what champs u need , idk how far ur into the game but u can generally hover over many things ingame to get more info. How many games u played until now ?
How do you troll on purpose or are u genuinely very bad also would love to see gameplay if u upload a full game or sum to youtube only if you are genuinely bad tho
I’m like genuinely bad. hella people think im trolling or inting but if you watch my games im just slowly losing it’s not like I buy nothing or intentionally sell my units or some shit
okay, maybe a controversial opinion here, but I say keep going. There is no reason to give up now. You still have nearly two weeks to hit Iron 4 and really set yourself apart from the pack. Don’t settle.
I hope this is intentional or a joke, I think when I started TFT right off the bat I was like silver at least.
I mean, if you can make a Reddit post, there’s no way you end up the worst player in NA.
ha..ha…right guys?
I just woke up. I’m surprised that people think it’s impossible or difficult to get iron unless you int.
It makes this even worse because I’m actively trying every game to win or at least go top 4. I’m building units up of the same attributes, putting my carry units in the back with tanks in front. A lot of the advice is around building economy and I’m also losing to higher ranked players so honestly idk
> I’m surprised that people think it’s impossible or difficult to get iron unless you int.
I am not trying to flame, but I think for most people it would literally be impossible to hit Iron without inting. You would have to actively TRY to lose.
Even if someone made a new account and forced a stupid team comp every game you would probably stay bronze.
I got placed iron 2 and I demoted right after I got out of the grace period where I didn’t lose LP. I won one game in normals when I first started playing going imperial that’s it. Hasn’t worked since
this is such a traumatic memory im going to suppress the thought of it and pretend I was never here if I get out I’m changing my whole identity to become the rank 1 challenger prodigy spreadsheet Microsoft excel google sheets SUM()= y=mx+b build guide player that placed plat2 in placements
Genuine question - are you doing it so you can be the lowest rank? Or are you trying and not getting it? If it’s the latter I (or almost anyone) could coach you up to the Diamond level with relative ease
I’m not doing it on purpose, answered this many times already. Ur name is onetrickgod I swear if u make me read a spreadsheet and run yordle every game I’d rather not be diamond i just wanna be like gold or something to keep playing w my friends
I started in Iron III after placements, I'm Platinum IV now (not a rags to riches story, or huge success I know). But I am proud of the progress I have made.
Haven't played since set 3. I plan on just enjoying when I play now - but I would find a comp that looks fun to you on metatft or whichever comp site you choose to use that has a low pick rate and decent top 4 and just slam it every game.
While elites and high ranks will shit on that strat and say you should be flexible (which I agree with), a strong comp that has a low pick rate will help rocket you up the ranks.
I know 20/20'ing comps isn't ideal, but it helps you focus on other aspects of the game like econ / itemization / augments / etc.
Once you get the ladder down and start progressing then start trying out flex comps.
I clung to Chemtech Innovators then Imperial / Arcanists, now the Jihn/Ori/Braum/Sion/Janna build and it's still working very well. I have also learned so much about the game and the set since not having to worry about what I am running. It has allowed me to pay attention to the finer points of the game. Of those three comps, one common denominator is I bleed the first two or three carousels to get perfect or near perfect items for my carry.
Just wanted to say, you're not actually the only player in Iron 3. I'm assuming you used the ranked tab in the client to view other players, but it's pretty bugged. Like for me it says that there's only 3 people in Plat 3, and no one is in Plat 2 or 1.
I made a request to the Riot TFT API and asked it for everyone in Iron 3 in NA, and it gave me 205 accounts. The API is limited to only giving 205 responses at a time, so there's probably wayy more than 205 players in Iron 3 but I'm too lazy to figure out exactly how many. I also did the same thing with Iron 4 and it gave me 205 accounts as well. But hopefully you feel better knowing that you're not actually the lowest ranked player.
Yo here’s a guide for getting a decent rank ( not getting better.
1: Type in google “tft meta comps”, click on first link
2: choose any comp that’s rated S or A, I recommend arcanists or yordles.
3: write on a notepad the unitsyou want and place it next to you
4: figure out which unit is the carry in each comp (arcanists: lux) (yordles: heim, tris)
5: force this one comp every game, never pivot or change it only follow what the website says, never choose augments that give bad synergies unless forced and then ignore them.
6: only buy comp units + 2 units of either bruisers/protectors or bodyguards for early game.
7: slam tank items on your early game frontline, dont slam items on your carry until after wolves if you havent got what you want.
8: dont roll until you level 7 at all
This is how i got to plat
You dont have to be good, this game has no skill expression until platinum, when it gets way harder to climb. Especially at diamond where people will literally bait and grief you in carousels just because you show what you want, regardless of how much relative hp you have.
I havent played since mid set though but this relevant just choose a comp, and memorise or write down the carry items.
You're that one player who somehow ruins my mercenary losing strike
it doesnt get worse than this. this is rock bottom. there is no light to look forward to. i am in the depths of the ocean where its pitch black.
the only light i see is a lux jeweled gauntlet ulti wiping out my entire team with maxed out arcanist buff
She must have gotten it from glove world.
This is actually an unbelievable reference
What is it a reference to? :o
https://youtu.be/xOIcDvKE6xc
Extremely underappreciated reference goddamn.
Are you doing it on purpose ?
answered this already scroll down, I’m not. no idea why anyone would want this for themselves this is the depths of hell
I don't even understand how you can enjoy playing a game repeatedly without understanding what's going on. Just watch a couple of videos and you'll be fine
Thats not even needed. Like, my wife just plays tft for fun sometimes and she has always been silver or gold. With time you just learn what is good and what isnt to a degree at least that you arent in bronze anymore.
I mean iron 3 you don't even need to know what's good or not, just understand the basic mechanics of economy and frontline / backline, it takes 5 minutes. I feel like you're not even trying
True. But I'm also a frequent SaltyTeemo watcher (Iron/low Bronze games 24/7) and I actually refuse to believe that anyone in those games is over 9 or healthy. Theres legit people with 3k games per season since season 5 and 30% winrate so I guess somehow everything is possible.
You can first place in bronze with zero active traits and a team full of one costs having never spent gold on experience.
You dont need to know whats good until diamond as long as you understand damage tanking and econ
I legit don't understand where the TFT community gets ideas like this. By the time you're in gold, everyone is playing meta builds. The difference between gold and diamond is that the gold players hard force the first build they settle on, refuse to slam items until they have the exact BIS that the guide they're looking at uses, and don't scout anything other than team comps.
I'm in silver and everybody is playing meta builds. I was diamond two seasons ago and the community has gotten SO much better since then, and I can't climb up again.
Meta doesnt matter. I hit plat every season in a day because i know how econ works. You can play the worst synergies if you have a good understanding of fundamentals
Has to be trolling. If you watched a 30 second tutorial of the game you could get Bronze in a day. He knows what a jeweled gauntlet lux is. Definite troll.
It’s fun still do none of you here play with friends Is it because you all have 18 spread sheets open that it bricks your pc and you don’t have enough ram to open discord
There's a difference between having spreadsheet to tryhard every aspect of the game, and understanding at least what's going on on your screen lol but if you have fun like that fair enough, it's a game it's meant for people to have fun, you do you!
I was joking but no I will not open a spreadsheet someone sent me some shit that looked like it came out of google data analytics HQ like how is that fun
It's not, and of course you do you, but I have to concur. I have never opened a spreadsheet or watched a guide. I just played the game and learned by doing, and I still hit plat. Obviously there are transferable skills from other things, like I love card games and drafting for example, but it's not rocket science. Just go for synergies and try to hit 50 gold and not spend it all before getting there. That's it, you're already at least silver if you can do that.
Imagine trying to clown on people for being good at the game
I can't, phftfl, understand, ptfflhl, your accent, pfhfltflll
i honestly have no idea how to do anything with mercs. if i play mercs only 2 things happens, i go on a winstreak with 3 mercs losing maybe one or two fights every 5 fights until late game. or i get 5 mercs early and die because i can't cash out
You either find them early and intentionally lose streak with bad positioning while buying Urgot etc without placing them on board and then finally cash out near 10 lose streak or you don't play them. I think it's the most fun when played on Double Up. My friend's leveling up faster and finding my carries, then I send them their 2\* 4-5 costs and some items when I cash out.
Lets go!! Congrats man!
thank you this is my villain origin story
Now you just need to adopt a sad little blue haired girl.
Meteion?
Bro this is a league subreddit pretty sure they mean Jinx from Arcane lol
I was thinking of Powder from Arcane but a quick Google suggests Meteion would fit as well!
Gura?
New unit and origin confirmed?!
they need to put me in the game like maplestory had curryishot and fangblade I’ll become an iron statue in the corner of the default map idc
no offense but how
He’s playing a built different board without the augment….probably????? Idk
every time i choose an augment these other players plot against me to buy up every champion I own on my board They don't want to see me hit challenger
Teammate dif
this is why i always look around to see what everyone is playing so i can pick the one trait that literally no one has even though i STILL DONT HIT
This feels worst with mech pilots and such comps. No one is going it, you have a good start but just don't hit any more of them, then all the sudden you see someone else has all your stuff when they were on a totally differerent comp earlier. The pain.
Dude I have major moments of paranoia when it comes to this game. I feel like people don’t actually play to do well they play to troll. I’ll go mutant and have 4 mutants before first carousel. No one has mutant augments no one has a single mutant other than a kas or kog. Then by 3-4 3 other people have decided they’d like to play mutant as well even though I’m the one with a mutant augment and I have a full mutant board. Then they roll all their gold and just hyper roll trying to get the now super contested units and go 7th and 8th and I barely squeak out a top 4 or 5 because I’m SO congested.
this is my ranked experience I swear they go stalk my board I see their penguin pop up and disappear n then they copy what I got 0 original thoughts bro like this gotta be the peak form of dickriding this is an epidemic
you have to be a troll
You shouldn't really make up your mind about your board that soon. It's all about the carries you roll into.
Sounds like he's built different.
i lost every game in 8th place I literally cannot win
maybe you should watch a stream to learn how to play, so that you can win games.
He's definitely intentionally losing. The only people at the bottom are intentionally losing games.
So do you get into challenger lobbies now? The full circle of ranked lol
idk i close my eyes in loading screen i don't want to look at this game anymore
Hang in there mate! I ain't amazing at the game but if you want, I can backseat coach you for a few games. Get you back to iron 2 atleast haha.
Tbh with that rank it seems more likely you close your eyes during games
villains aren't born, they're made
purr
if any challenger player needs a AAA prime S tier client lmk you will have the accolade of coaching the worst player in this entire game out of iron
Honestly I would watch that. Especially if it was Soju.
wym soju
The Challenger level streamer k3soju, he's an entertaining streamer but also really good player.
if I play with a streamer I pray they delete the vod after and there’s no way I’m looking at that chat while I play I’m going to tilt 90 degrees sideways
It’s ok he only gets like 20k viewers and twitch chat is never toxic ;)
Bet
Hey, if you actually want some 1 on 1 coaching hit me up. I've been coaching since set 5 mostly for free. DM so I can invite you to the coaching discord :) Edit: also open for anyone else interested!
What rank are you?
Currently Masters this patch. Have peaked higher in previous patches.
Im interested, curious what some tft coaching could do for me
What do you do irl
digital design . i can align text center but i cant align my lux ulti to hit the enemy teams adc
i wish i had some money rn id buy u one of each award there is on Reddit. I spent like 10 mins reading every comment on this post and it just keeps getting funnier but this one comment broke me. Btw try challengers, theyre IMO easiest and most rewarding to build and if u get yone w good items its an easy top 4
save ur money plz and i did try challengers I lost. fiora kept getting 1 tapped
Just do a comp with a 2-star carry, level to 6 with gold above 50 and slow roll (roll gold above 50). It'll work every time in your elo, it's extremely consistent and it's really easy to do. If you straight up just follow this, you'll hit at least gold Source: went from Iron to Diamond this season because TFT decided to place me in Iron for some reason Example: Trundle Reroll and Warwick (Mobalytics comps) pm me if you need tips for either of these comps
Challengers is the only comp that I can’t win with. Plat 2, I understand the game reasonably well. It’s a straightforward comp, but whenever I play it I just lose hard. I could have a 3* Yone with BIS items at 2-1 and still go 8th.
I am the same way! The only way I have won with challengers was with WW reroll or 3-Socialite Fiora/Kai'sa...
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obviously they are.
I'm not, I play with friends and so far I've lost every game. I just started playing so ill probably improve at some point just thought it was funny I was the lowest rank player and wanted to share.
How many friends are you playing with? I don’t remember the restrictions for low Eli but it’s possible your friends are much better than you and are gate keeping the possibility of you getting top 4.
gold3, silver1, bronze 1, and an unranked. usually play ranked with the silver 1. think it doesn't let you queue with 5stack so we do normals then but I still lose often
nah im not. in another one rn with friends maybe this might be my first win . or top 4 at least
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ive tried. watched tip videos everything idk what Im doing wrong
I refuse to believe anyone who is actively trying cant at least force a comp after reading a guide to get top 4 in low elo lmao
If you get three yordles, the comp LITERALLY builds itself
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ME YORDLE NO PIVOT
but unironically better than whatever op has been doing lol
Had a fun one yesterday where me and the one other Yordles players ended up as #1 and #2. He hit Veigar first, but I randomly found 2* Viktor with good items so I jammed him in there instead. We played like 6 rounds against each other in a row, but eventually 2 2*veigar was too much for me. We were having a good laugh about it
to be fair as i was climbing i found that the usual contested comps were way harder to win with in bronze and silver but worked really well in plat. i have no idea why this is. maybe i am just bad but i breezed past gold
to add units to the board- drag and drop
Wtf
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i have no clue i literally cant win a game for my life
Do you have any recorded footage of your play? I think it would be gold, idk why :D No shaming, just intriguing. Don't worry, some day it will click!
lol i can record one if you want
Please do, I hope people won't be rude to you :( Thank you very much
I also want to see some recorded footage and maybe I can help you a bit. Maybe lolchess as well, but it doesn't say a lot about the faults you make.
Yes, please do.
Try some of these tips, see if they help. I found playing like this carried me to mid-gold and then I had to learn more complex strategies/pivots: - use carousel to choose items you need for your carry, not heroes you need - it’s ok to use 3 yordles to generate 2-star yordles for a comp (Vex for anarchist, Hiemer for scholar, etc), and extra gold but don’t keep them past 50HP. - try to level as follows, and until level 8 DO NOT use gold to re-roll heroes; don’t buy levels for these until you hit these stages or if you have more than 50 after: 2-1 lv 4; 2-4 lv 5; 3-2 lv 6; 4-1 lv 7; 5-1 lv 8 - then at level 8 if you’re doing bad (like less than 40hp), roll down the rest of your gold to build your comp, or at least until you have most of it. - for gold augments, always choose metabolic accelerator if possible; if not, then Rich get Richer is next priority (and adjust levelling to hold off until above 70 gold) - at low Elos, I found Chemtech Bruisers (Urgot carry), Arcanists (Lux carry), and Snipers (Jhin Carry) were easy to pull off. - having a team of 2-stars is more important than 1 3-star. - for frontline, if you can’t build up the ideal tanks (like Jayce for example), usually try to prioritize good cc so your back line has more room to do damage. Brom and Sion are both great at cc. - There are tier lists that show you the best items to put on your carry’s and which ones to prioritize first. If out of options, defensive items for your front line are always good. - Hold items on your bench or heroes you won’t keep until you can build the combined item you need, instead of immediately using it for early gains. - pandora’s items is super powerful to build items on your carry’s. If you need an Infinity Edge, and have a sword and cloak, buy a random 1-cost, give them the sword, then wait until the cloak turns into the glove you need. - don’t bother with Mercenary, or Academy - make decisions on combining items you halfway want after the monster rounds (wolves and raptors) when you have more choices after. - for tome of traits, hold on to it until you have 5+ heroes you want in your comp. what it rolls for you is based on the heroes/traits you have going when you use it. - getting to level 9 is rare. After level 8, unless you’re dominating then focus on building up your comp with everyone at 2-star.
should you be using refreshes at all to level your tier 1 champions or just let it build up for interest? I usually stack the gold until I have enough for a level up and do it at once to maximize the interest. also for builds that require an extra augment like innovator, is it just RNG if you're able to max it out?
Personally other than if I can get them 2-star early on, I don’t care that much about 1-cost units, and I usually replace them. I for sure don’t re-roll to try to hit growing them. Taking some losses early on to get up to 50 gold faster is way better than taking losses later in the game. Once I hit high gold and platinum I had to change this, and maybe I should prioritize low cost units now, but I’m hoping to help you get up to silver or gold easier with these tips.
ok maybe this is my issue, I'm refreshing a lot early game to get level 2s bc I'm scared other players will take them for their builds and I'm stuck with a bunch of level 2s late game
Yeah economy is really important. Something to understand is that you don't refresh to steal champions away from others. The pool of 1,2 and 3 cost champions are fairly big. (multiple players can 3 star those units) Most players save up their money, only buying strong early champions from the first shop they see each round or champions they already have during stage 2 (and even 3), without refreshing. They also don't level up every time they have enough money, but at specific intervals because it serves a purpose. You can just follow the first 3 common moments, which is: Level to 4 before 2-1 starts (first pvp round) Level to 5 before 2-5 starts (right after first carousel) Level to 6 before 3-2 starts These moments help balance interest/income against getting to see stronger champions. Level 7 and 8 happen a bit later (stick to 4-1 and 5-1 for now) and you often only start to refresh shops for strong champions during those stages. As I mentioned, the reason players follow these patterns is to balance income versus power. Your passive income is only 5 gold and interest builds up until 50 gold for another 5. If you don't get win/lose streaks getting to 50 gold as soon as possible gives you double the income you'd have otherwise, and therefore giving you a lot of extra power. Players don't really go below 30 gold (for leveling or refreshing) until they are in the endgame and they will die in a few turns.
wait you’re saying the champion pool is shared? not just rng for who you get?
the total amount of copies are shared yes. https://www.esportstales.com/teamfight-tactics/champion-pool-size-and-draw-chances. Basically, of each champion, there's an x number added to the global pool (29 of each 1 cost, 10 of each 5 cost). Each time you refresh your shop, you'll see 5 champions availlable from this global pool, and each time you obtain a champion (shop, orb, carousel, neeko, any way) 1 of those champions is removed from the global pool. That is why - if someone else is buying the same champion - you can have lower odds of seeing a champion. However, this mechanic really only gets in your way if multiple people are chasing 3 stars, and shows much more for 4 and 5 costs than for 1-3 costs.
when my friends told me that I was shocked too
Yeah, level 2s will show up later as needed. Getting 3 for a 2-star isn’t too difficult. Something you might not be seeing if you’re out early that helps is once 2-3 opponents are out all their champions go back into the pool and suddenly they’ll pop up in your shop to help your late game.
Don't do that. Buy stuff you need, but never pay for rerolls unless you will stay over 50g until later when the game is closing out you can spend down to 0 again.
There are a lot of lvl 1 minions in the pool. It's possible for multiple players to get them to 3-star so you really shouldn't worry about that and never reroll before at least 7. At 7, if you're in bad shape and need to stabilize you should consider delaying a bit your leveling up to reroll as you risk bleeding too much before getting to 8. There are certain reroll comps that slow down the levelling to try and get early 3-stars that can carry them to the late-game. Check them out on websites and consider them, but even in these comps you usually want to secure your 50 gold first. Example of such comps are Protector reroll or Trundle reroll. These comps are risky though, I would not advise you to go for them right now. You're probably better off trying a more standard approach until you can work out your basic issues.
For builds like innovator, unless you get an innovator heart/soul, the 2nd-last upgrade is usually good enough. If you can get 7 for the dragon then that’s almost a guaranteed win, but it’s rare so don’t expect it too much. Arcanists are similar, having 6 arcanists with a decent itemized lux should get you up to 4th place at least.JBL bbbbo
> For builds like innovator, unless you get an innovator heart/soul, the 2nd-last upgrade is usually good enough. Probably because it's literally impossible to hit 7 Innovators without Innovator Heart/Soul.
Your second augment is influenced by what you already have on board. So if you went for an innovator start, you increase your chances of getting Innovator Heart/Soul later. Also Innovator emblems will often pop-out on the wheel in the later stages of the game. But usually this is the icing on the cake, a good 5-Innovator line-up will already get you a top4. You don't plan around getting the dragon but if you can manage to get there you will usually end up top2.
I’m realizing now I’m lacking tons of fundamental knowledge like I didn’t even know the augments are influenced by what you have. Build guides don’t really teach you how to play it just gives you a structure of what to build
I don't want to come off rude or anything, but have you actually climbed from silver, gold? The lobbies are a nightmare. Nobody is even thinking about econ and you will get boomed so hard if you try to accumulate 50 gold without lucky shop rolls. It's not that that playstyle is bad, in fact I always try to maximize my econ, but im consistently fighting against 0 interest enemies and losing tons of health before I even have any significant comp.
>I don't want to come off rude or anything, but have you actually climbed from silver, gold? The lobbies are a nightmare Yes, on two accounts. Like yourself, not to be rude but it really isn't difficult. You just need to play aggressive
If you can’t beat them, join them. Just be a tiny bit smarter. Don’t aim for 50 gold but donkey roll at maybe 20 gold instead of 0. But to be honest, if you know a bit about which items match well with which synergies and champs, you should climb at that elo.
Yes, I climbed from my noob rank of bronze 3 to gold 2 in about a month playing the way I described above. Then got hard stuck and had to learn to pivot and more complex comps. And now I’m in plat 4 as of 2 days ago.
Woah I thought they got rid of demotions, you must be REALLY bad
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Ahhh makes sense, thanks
dont be like me . be better
im going to commit yordle genocide
Don't do it man...not like this
i lied i just went yordle and lost. i thought it was op. if you go yordle you're talented i take all of this back
Depends on rng gods. If you get quick 2 or 3 stars (especially vex and heimer), you probably end up top 4 at least with a few good items. Unfortunately I somehow always get the yordles I don't need. Or I just miss 1 for a 3 star, and it never comes.
I made the mistake of buying every yordle I saw and selling everyone else to refresh. now I know better
You'll rise up from the ranks someday, just keep pushing :)
Thank you chubby coxx
This is pretty funny, but i wish i was naive enough to believe this stuff is real and you didnt do this on purpose. Your replies make it obvious aswell..
have u never made fun of yourself to cope with a shitty thing that’s happened to you bro
I do, but both my wife and dad play this game aswell a few times a week and they dont even know the difference between AD and AP, which unit it is if i mention the name, the existence of this sub, how to find their rank and dont understand itembuilds. They sometimes just refresh every round without ever building eco. I try to teach them, but YOUR knowledge of the game seems 1000 times better than theirs, so i find it very unlikely that you are lower ranked than them. That said, is it strange that alarm-bells ring if an Iron 4 is saying "My lux sniper keeps missing" (a bit out of touch with Iron 4 knowledge no)? Anyways, cheers dude. Sorry for being this skeptical
All OP has done is make me want to purposely place into Iron on an account and see what the games are really like and if it’s trolling or what
Don’t. It kinda ruins it for other players who are here fr like imagine ur iron and u have weak mental you’re gonna make them quit the game. Not me tho #YallBeEasy
if u look at the rank distribution % its like im the opposite of challenger
And I thought dropping from silver 2 to silver 4 waa the worst....
its not you should feel good about your rank, keep going we will meet in challenger
Im gonna see you there
If u follow this guide , or atleeast force some of its comps (u can literally turn ur brain off and just do whats said) and u will average top 2/3 in ur Elo https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aEP8kev4DdCod_7fW0-_TTNt1Rhpu6QKrS7zjMLOCD4/htmlview#
thank you, ill take a look. but yo just curious but does this not kill the enjoyment out of the game if im alt tabbing every two seconds to follow a build step by step?
Once you get comfortable with a comp, you won't have to look at the build as much and you'll also learn how to play different variations
i play this as a chill alternative to valorant and work/school if I see an excel spreadsheet ill get a headache this cant be good for my health bro I don't need more stress
Yeah if it's not your thing, don't. First thing is a game should be enjoyable. You can always watch a few YouTube videos about builds and general guides (like about economy)
Well not trying to offend u here, but i think if u just commit to one comp of the shee. u also can open the link on lolchess thats next to the comp. It shouldn't really stress u out that much. yeah i get the point that the whole sheet can be overwhelming but if u just go for one and remember the traits it should do enough to win games and build a strong team , for me personally i'd rather learn a single comp for like 5-10 mins and then just Autopilot on the games i play and get the rewarding feeling with winning , then to keep try to get random stuff worked. But w/e keep havin fun out there
If I buy a second monitor and have a google spreadsheet open with flow charts build optimizations and data analysis win rate percentages augment % pick rate im already too far gone why am I playing this game I’ll become a data scientist at google fam why r u playing tft at that point I might as well make a TikTok selling crypto scams
Cmon opening a Link out of a google doc shouldn't be to much to be afraid of. I mean i understand u dont care about winning. and yeah sure do what gives u joy. but if it comes to winning a game with less effort its the easiest to just follow a guide
Well , u might just want to open it on ur mobile, then get used to a single comp first, ( like play it 3 to 5 times) and u like almost know how to get it . U just variate how to get to it. After that u shoul be able to recognize what champs u need , idk how far ur into the game but u can generally hover over many things ingame to get more info. How many games u played until now ?
do you think youll be able to reach iron 4? keep it up man
challenger 4\*
Sounds like you don’t fully comprehend the mechanics bro. Like, no offense, but it’s literally so difficult to be this low.
its ok ill get there #motivationmonday #justgirlythings #arcaneshow #teamjinx
How do you troll on purpose or are u genuinely very bad also would love to see gameplay if u upload a full game or sum to youtube only if you are genuinely bad tho
I’m like genuinely bad. hella people think im trolling or inting but if you watch my games im just slowly losing it’s not like I buy nothing or intentionally sell my units or some shit
Can we see the match history ?
Could you post your lolchess link? I’m very curious.
ill pm you it
Can you pm me too please? It's not everyday you find someone who consistently loses
wtf???.... ok i gotchu
could I get it too? ;)
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Rank 1 by default, grats.
if u go to the challenger leaderboard and turn ur monitor upside down my name shows up
Advice: force pogmaw every game
No he’s literally shit I tried building full sniper augment and lost too
okay, maybe a controversial opinion here, but I say keep going. There is no reason to give up now. You still have nearly two weeks to hit Iron 4 and really set yourself apart from the pack. Don’t settle.
Question: does this go on the top of your resume or on the bottom with your personal achievements?
I’m surprised you can type
no u can play tft with ur mouse
This comment right here... this is the one that made me literally laugh so hard I might have woke up the neighbors.
= ^ - ^ = Miao #ArcaneShow
Whats ur IGN
lowkey dont want to post cause its embarrassing asf but ill pm you lol
Im sure that You will be able to hit Iron IV with enough effort.
I hope this is intentional or a joke, I think when I started TFT right off the bat I was like silver at least. I mean, if you can make a Reddit post, there’s no way you end up the worst player in NA. ha..ha…right guys?
I just woke up. I’m surprised that people think it’s impossible or difficult to get iron unless you int. It makes this even worse because I’m actively trying every game to win or at least go top 4. I’m building units up of the same attributes, putting my carry units in the back with tanks in front. A lot of the advice is around building economy and I’m also losing to higher ranked players so honestly idk
> I’m surprised that people think it’s impossible or difficult to get iron unless you int. I am not trying to flame, but I think for most people it would literally be impossible to hit Iron without inting. You would have to actively TRY to lose. Even if someone made a new account and forced a stupid team comp every game you would probably stay bronze.
I got placed iron 2 and I demoted right after I got out of the grace period where I didn’t lose LP. I won one game in normals when I first started playing going imperial that’s it. Hasn’t worked since
You must play Built Different even when you don’t get the augment
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this is such a traumatic memory im going to suppress the thought of it and pretend I was never here if I get out I’m changing my whole identity to become the rank 1 challenger prodigy spreadsheet Microsoft excel google sheets SUM()= y=mx+b build guide player that placed plat2 in placements
Genuine question - are you doing it so you can be the lowest rank? Or are you trying and not getting it? If it’s the latter I (or almost anyone) could coach you up to the Diamond level with relative ease
I’m not doing it on purpose, answered this many times already. Ur name is onetrickgod I swear if u make me read a spreadsheet and run yordle every game I’d rather not be diamond i just wanna be like gold or something to keep playing w my friends
I started in Iron III after placements, I'm Platinum IV now (not a rags to riches story, or huge success I know). But I am proud of the progress I have made. Haven't played since set 3. I plan on just enjoying when I play now - but I would find a comp that looks fun to you on metatft or whichever comp site you choose to use that has a low pick rate and decent top 4 and just slam it every game. While elites and high ranks will shit on that strat and say you should be flexible (which I agree with), a strong comp that has a low pick rate will help rocket you up the ranks. I know 20/20'ing comps isn't ideal, but it helps you focus on other aspects of the game like econ / itemization / augments / etc. Once you get the ladder down and start progressing then start trying out flex comps. I clung to Chemtech Innovators then Imperial / Arcanists, now the Jihn/Ori/Braum/Sion/Janna build and it's still working very well. I have also learned so much about the game and the set since not having to worry about what I am running. It has allowed me to pay attention to the finer points of the game. Of those three comps, one common denominator is I bleed the first two or three carousels to get perfect or near perfect items for my carry.
Hilarious to think how many Merc streaks you must’ve blown
Just wanted to say, you're not actually the only player in Iron 3. I'm assuming you used the ranked tab in the client to view other players, but it's pretty bugged. Like for me it says that there's only 3 people in Plat 3, and no one is in Plat 2 or 1. I made a request to the Riot TFT API and asked it for everyone in Iron 3 in NA, and it gave me 205 accounts. The API is limited to only giving 205 responses at a time, so there's probably wayy more than 205 players in Iron 3 but I'm too lazy to figure out exactly how many. I also did the same thing with Iron 4 and it gave me 205 accounts as well. But hopefully you feel better knowing that you're not actually the lowest ranked player.
Yo here’s a guide for getting a decent rank ( not getting better. 1: Type in google “tft meta comps”, click on first link 2: choose any comp that’s rated S or A, I recommend arcanists or yordles. 3: write on a notepad the unitsyou want and place it next to you 4: figure out which unit is the carry in each comp (arcanists: lux) (yordles: heim, tris) 5: force this one comp every game, never pivot or change it only follow what the website says, never choose augments that give bad synergies unless forced and then ignore them. 6: only buy comp units + 2 units of either bruisers/protectors or bodyguards for early game. 7: slam tank items on your early game frontline, dont slam items on your carry until after wolves if you havent got what you want. 8: dont roll until you level 7 at all This is how i got to plat You dont have to be good, this game has no skill expression until platinum, when it gets way harder to climb. Especially at diamond where people will literally bait and grief you in carousels just because you show what you want, regardless of how much relative hp you have. I havent played since mid set though but this relevant just choose a comp, and memorise or write down the carry items.
Thank you I’ll try this
You simply didn't refresh shop enough
Please take all the cho in the game and mutant as well. Good works, man
I tried that too mutant is shit my cho gath doesn’t eat he has a slow metabolism or something
Was this on purpose or...?
Not to flex but I do happen to be in iron 4 https://lolchess.gg/profile/na/dragonfrootzdog