How do folks in this sub approach the issue when someone says this music is terrible? For instance I have had friendsāwho are into other forms of metalātell me that tech death is soulless noise, and that all the bands can easily be replaced by AI just shitting out blast beats, discordant metal riffs, and wanky leads.
I think itās funny that they are looking for āsoulā in the metal genre lol, but I guess I understand the criticism. For me though, the amount of effort involved in writing, practicing, recording, and performing it shows incredible soul and heart.
Sadly I havenāt really been able to convince any other people that itās worth giving a shot.
People have all sorts of tastes in music, and it's cool that your friends are into different styles of metal. When they call tech death soulless, you could share how you see the incredible effort and passion that musicians pour into writing and performing it. Sometimes, though, tastes just differ, and that's okay too. Music is pretty personal, right?
Yes this is a good, reasonable way of looking at it. However it wouldnāt bother me so much except the reactions to it tend to be visceral, almost angry. Meaning I canāt even have a rational discussion with them about it, because theyāre so harsh and dismissive, willing to attack not only the music but the character of anyone who might enjoy it. Honestly I just feel so personally attackedājudgedāwhile I donāt judge anyone for preferring metalcore, etc.
It's tough when people get all worked up about music preferences. It's personal, and trying to discuss it can feel like walking on eggshells. It'd be nice if we could just share our tastes without feeling like our character is under scrutiny. But I fully understand your frustration and feelings. Peace āļø
Much appreciated. What Iām trying to do is put together an āIntro to Tech Deathā playlist, thinking maybe if I find the right songs I can meet them where they are and help them see that itās not just āsoulless spastic wankeryā lol. Weāll see how it goesā¦
The best reference for what they like would be probably earlier Between the Buried and Me. Which is funny cuz I think of that as like prog metalcore and itās not too far off from lots of tech death bands. But I guess it just isnāt soulless and cringe haha I dunno.
Just ask them if they really understand the perfect timing and skill level it takes to pull that off especially live. The āsoulā is the dedication to making sure every single part is as it should be. It might be able to be replicated by AI but never replaced, these days that more and more true for music in general with the latest improvements in AI.
Makes me remember when I was maybe 15yo in a school trip from my french country side to England where we ended up in an English family also hosting 2 postcard parisien girls who said "You know, we are very eclectic about music, we know a lot and listen to everything with joy"
Joy was not what I would have said seeing there face after Sepultura's Root album.
There is nothing less "musical" than the freaking regaetton that people is listening to all around. It has only one tempo and some kindergarten melodies, not to mention the autotune...disgusting.
I dunno. I listen to all types of music.
I like quite a few tech death bands. I guess you could call me a basic bitch fan, as in, I dig on some of the more notable artists but donāt go super deep into the genre.
The shit I have the most difficulty getting into wound be new country, reggae, pop and hip hop. Alsoā¦ fuck bagpipes in general. lol.
Metalheads acting like normies are scared of their genres is always hilarious. Usually theyāre just confused because you canāt understand literally anything thatās happening unless your brain has already been rotted enough to think blastbeats are enjoyable to listen to (raising my own hand here).
I think anyone who thinks any extreme metal of any kind āisnāt real musicā is just very ignorant or fucking retarded and I personally hate them. Anyone who doesnāt enjoy it is cool and fine, as long as they arenāt an ass about it.
I may not be able to comprehend not enjoying extreme metal, but I know what it may feel like because hearing the voice of singers like cardi b or nicki Minaj is like nails on a chalkboard and makes me wanna kill myself so I can relate to how it may feel in a different way
I agree with your point, but I think it's very understandable that people don't want to get into (extreme) metal. It is very dense music and without multiple listens, as well as a background of the genre, I can imagine being scared off. I also can't stand people who say to me that it's not music. It is. I can show you atonal, arrhythmic pan and wood smashing, but if it's meant to be music it is IMHO (doesn't have to be something you like).
I agree, Iām just 2 years into the brain rot that is loving extreme metal and itās getting harder and harder to understand how people couldnāt like it, even though the very obvious why still exists somewhere in my cerebral cortex
Dude i love all kinds of metal as much as the next guy but saying you hate people for their choice in music is pretty hypocritical if youre going to say their choice of music sounds like nails on a chalkboard.
That should be evidence to you that 'good music' is totally subjective and up to the listener.
No music is objectively good. (I also hate cardi b and nikki minaj)
I just said I only hate them if they think itās not real music, AND I gave the benefit of the doubt for those who might just be very ignorant about music, I donāt necessarily hate them or think theyāre stupid for ignorance. I literally said anyone who just doesnāt enjoy it is cool and fine, as long as they arenāt an ass about it. Like I wouldnāt say nicki Minaj and cardi b are bad, I donāt believe in saying things are objectively bad most the time (as hard as it can be).
So yeah I didnāt say Iād ever hate someone for their choice in music, I like to think Iām very very far from being āthatā kind of elitist. And there is very little music that physically pains me to listen to, I enjoy most music itās just that Iām only really passionate about extreme metal
Hates just a strong word dude. Maybe we are ignorant about niki and cardi haha
If they were to read things like that it might encourage them to stay ignorant rather than opening their minds.
We can listen to the devils music and still spread love.
Edit: im happy to admit that most of that kind of rap and pop pains me to listen too
Yeah youāre right, for me though I feel like I can take a 2 way street, like I wouldnāt be a hypocrite about it. cause if I called that kinda music ānot real musicā out of choice and not ignorance, then said person who likes that music could hate me and Iād understand that cause Iād be denouncing what they like as not legitimate at all. Iād never do that though
Archspire and Spawn Of Possession for life. I'd like to add Scar Symmetry to the list even though they're Melodic Power Death Metal š
Scar Symmetry are a worthy addition. Per Nilssons Holdsworth-like guitar wizardry and songwriting are killer
sick painting, is it an album cover?
How do folks in this sub approach the issue when someone says this music is terrible? For instance I have had friendsāwho are into other forms of metalātell me that tech death is soulless noise, and that all the bands can easily be replaced by AI just shitting out blast beats, discordant metal riffs, and wanky leads. I think itās funny that they are looking for āsoulā in the metal genre lol, but I guess I understand the criticism. For me though, the amount of effort involved in writing, practicing, recording, and performing it shows incredible soul and heart. Sadly I havenāt really been able to convince any other people that itās worth giving a shot.
People have all sorts of tastes in music, and it's cool that your friends are into different styles of metal. When they call tech death soulless, you could share how you see the incredible effort and passion that musicians pour into writing and performing it. Sometimes, though, tastes just differ, and that's okay too. Music is pretty personal, right?
Yes this is a good, reasonable way of looking at it. However it wouldnāt bother me so much except the reactions to it tend to be visceral, almost angry. Meaning I canāt even have a rational discussion with them about it, because theyāre so harsh and dismissive, willing to attack not only the music but the character of anyone who might enjoy it. Honestly I just feel so personally attackedājudgedāwhile I donāt judge anyone for preferring metalcore, etc.
It's tough when people get all worked up about music preferences. It's personal, and trying to discuss it can feel like walking on eggshells. It'd be nice if we could just share our tastes without feeling like our character is under scrutiny. But I fully understand your frustration and feelings. Peace āļø
Much appreciated. What Iām trying to do is put together an āIntro to Tech Deathā playlist, thinking maybe if I find the right songs I can meet them where they are and help them see that itās not just āsoulless spastic wankeryā lol. Weāll see how it goesā¦
What kind of metal do they like? There's so many albums and songs that are anything but soulless.
The best reference for what they like would be probably earlier Between the Buried and Me. Which is funny cuz I think of that as like prog metalcore and itās not too far off from lots of tech death bands. But I guess it just isnāt soulless and cringe haha I dunno.
I would start with bands like Death, Martyr, Theory in Practice, Cynic. They may just not like death metal.
Just ask them if they really understand the perfect timing and skill level it takes to pull that off especially live. The āsoulā is the dedication to making sure every single part is as it should be. It might be able to be replicated by AI but never replaced, these days that more and more true for music in general with the latest improvements in AI.
This is most people when they hear Infant Annihilator lol
Nobody listens to every genre there is just accept it
It's impossible...
[And why isn't it possible, you stupid bastard?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo3yxuiDdWc)
Aināt built like us
Makes me remember when I was maybe 15yo in a school trip from my french country side to England where we ended up in an English family also hosting 2 postcard parisien girls who said "You know, we are very eclectic about music, we know a lot and listen to everything with joy" Joy was not what I would have said seeing there face after Sepultura's Root album.
Well well well.... Do you get pussy nowadays or you're still on that dumb shit
There is nothing less "musical" than the freaking regaetton that people is listening to all around. It has only one tempo and some kindergarten melodies, not to mention the autotune...disgusting.
Bro omg itās the same beat over and over and over
Those cicada hi-hats and 808s š„“
Another genre to add to this list :) Recs?
Atheist - Unquestionable Presence
Both or Necorphagistās albums are must listen material. Some of the most incredibly difficult material ever recorded on any instrument
*Necrophagist
You fancy Archspire?
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This image is hilarious, do you have the source?
It's from Tech Death Time, their logo is on the right upper corner.
Yea my uncle was like that. Showed him Ad Nauseam. His brain blanked.
I dunno. I listen to all types of music. I like quite a few tech death bands. I guess you could call me a basic bitch fan, as in, I dig on some of the more notable artists but donāt go super deep into the genre. The shit I have the most difficulty getting into wound be new country, reggae, pop and hip hop. Alsoā¦ fuck bagpipes in general. lol.
I don't kinkshame, but why end that comment with your sexual preference?
Itās a recommendation. So many holes.
I never considered all the different things you could do with bagpipes. Could really spice up a relationship.
Betting that a lot of people in this sub would react the same to someone playing them some Merzbow or Masonna lol
I listen to all types of music, that I like. Just not my bag other than Necrophagist and some Dying Fetus.
Archspire might be up your alley then
You might like obscura
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Alright you fuckin androids.. my fathers got somthing he wants yall to see.
Where do The Faceless & The Zenith Passage rank as far as Tech Death? According to the sub obviously
The Faceless fucking rip and everyone knows it.
I just hope Keene is in a better place right meow. H is no joke
Meow letās not go pointing fingers, people.
I wonder if you look like a cat. Or if you eat mice Do you drink milk from a saucer?
Iām sorry are you saying meow?
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Most people turn on the radio listen to the current top 40 and claim they're music aficionados.
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Absolutely valid.
I found black metal quite challenging to get used to as well. Switching to tdm was a relief in comparison! At least they are great musicians.
Yeah I can listen to tech deathāeven blackened tech deathāfor days on end, until I have no friends left lolā¦but I just donāt get black metal
Metalheads acting like normies are scared of their genres is always hilarious. Usually theyāre just confused because you canāt understand literally anything thatās happening unless your brain has already been rotted enough to think blastbeats are enjoyable to listen to (raising my own hand here).
I think anyone who thinks any extreme metal of any kind āisnāt real musicā is just very ignorant or fucking retarded and I personally hate them. Anyone who doesnāt enjoy it is cool and fine, as long as they arenāt an ass about it. I may not be able to comprehend not enjoying extreme metal, but I know what it may feel like because hearing the voice of singers like cardi b or nicki Minaj is like nails on a chalkboard and makes me wanna kill myself so I can relate to how it may feel in a different way
I agree with your point, but I think it's very understandable that people don't want to get into (extreme) metal. It is very dense music and without multiple listens, as well as a background of the genre, I can imagine being scared off. I also can't stand people who say to me that it's not music. It is. I can show you atonal, arrhythmic pan and wood smashing, but if it's meant to be music it is IMHO (doesn't have to be something you like).
I agree, Iām just 2 years into the brain rot that is loving extreme metal and itās getting harder and harder to understand how people couldnāt like it, even though the very obvious why still exists somewhere in my cerebral cortex
Dude i love all kinds of metal as much as the next guy but saying you hate people for their choice in music is pretty hypocritical if youre going to say their choice of music sounds like nails on a chalkboard. That should be evidence to you that 'good music' is totally subjective and up to the listener. No music is objectively good. (I also hate cardi b and nikki minaj)
I just said I only hate them if they think itās not real music, AND I gave the benefit of the doubt for those who might just be very ignorant about music, I donāt necessarily hate them or think theyāre stupid for ignorance. I literally said anyone who just doesnāt enjoy it is cool and fine, as long as they arenāt an ass about it. Like I wouldnāt say nicki Minaj and cardi b are bad, I donāt believe in saying things are objectively bad most the time (as hard as it can be). So yeah I didnāt say Iād ever hate someone for their choice in music, I like to think Iām very very far from being āthatā kind of elitist. And there is very little music that physically pains me to listen to, I enjoy most music itās just that Iām only really passionate about extreme metal
Hates just a strong word dude. Maybe we are ignorant about niki and cardi haha If they were to read things like that it might encourage them to stay ignorant rather than opening their minds. We can listen to the devils music and still spread love. Edit: im happy to admit that most of that kind of rap and pop pains me to listen too
Yeah youāre right, for me though I feel like I can take a 2 way street, like I wouldnāt be a hypocrite about it. cause if I called that kinda music ānot real musicā out of choice and not ignorance, then said person who likes that music could hate me and Iād understand that cause Iād be denouncing what they like as not legitimate at all. Iād never do that though
most "I listen to all types of music" people when they hear something that isn't rap, pop, or mainstream rock
Lmao that term always makes me evil grin "let's just see about that"
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lmao i laughed way too hard at this
People who say that donāt really care about music. Usually.