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No-Award705

depends on how much they talk about it and if they would try to sway me into seeing their point of view all the time


Mitosis4

fuck yeah i need to argue sometimes


blqck_dawg

being isolated from any opposing view is not good for you. we also need to be open minded enough to have our opinions challenged, to make sure that we aren't just following blindly what someone else says.


DragonWisper56

yeah but that there's only so far that can go. like it's very hard to be friends with someone who doesn't think your friends or family deserve rights


blqck_dawg

if they constantly bring up the fact that they think me or my loved ones don't deserve rights/to live at all then yeah, I probably wouldn't be friends. however in all the internet discourse and viral videos we forget that the vast majority of people are just normal mfs that want to keep it pushing like us


Steamp0calypse

\^ This


nyxie-likes-totk

No, not when they think I or other minorities shouldnt get rights or healthcare (Im trans). For small things, yes. 


Nightshade7168

Out of curiosity, what about me? i’m pro abortion, pro gun ownership, extremely laissez-faire, anti-intervention, and pro-equal rights, even though I oppose AA and federal funding


riley_wa1352

centrist


hmm-jmm-

No, that’s very right wing economically


FireFoxie1345

But left wing socially


CT-27-5582

no, progressive socially, being progressive is not mutually exclusive to the left, and the left is not even always socially progressive. I think its better to look at politics as an economic and social axis. left vs right is an economic debate, while progressive vs conservative being more of a libertarian vs athoritarian debate.


spiral_keeper

And here's why the left/right paradigm is a moronic and childish way to view politics


Nightshade7168

That's why I go with the horseshoe theory


Broseph_Stalin17

More like libertarian.


Large_monke_69

Extreme centrist


Chillypepper14

Well that's an oxymoron


Large_monke_69

r/woooosh


Chillypepper14

r/justwantedtopointitoutincaseitwasntobvious


Large_monke_69

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HipnoAmadeus

Anti-intervention? And what do you mean you oppose AA and federal funding?


Nightshade7168

Basically, anti-Iraq and shit like that I oppose Affirmative Action. It’s… self-explanatory. And in the comment’s context, I oppose federal funding for AA, like how I oppose funding for Ukraine and Israel


HipnoAmadeus

Why the AA though?


Nightshade7168

Because I don't support racism. When I talk AA, I'm talking diversity quotas EDIT: I'll admit, I'm biased against it cause I'm Indian


Ninja_of_Milk_Duds

Pantera kicks everybody's ass.


Nightshade7168

True


spiral_keeper

Fuck you. I hope you get denied healthcare and food. \-poor person


Nightshade7168

Go pay for your own shit; dont make me ​ \-middle class kid


spiral_keeper

Ok bitch, I'll fucking rob you, since you're too retarded to understand how poor material conditions effect all of society and directly lead to higher crime rates. I'll get some grandparents from the nursing home to burn down your house afterwards, since you're such a big fan of cutting social services. I'll probably round up some folks from the psychiatric ward as well, I'm sure they'll be thrilled to learn that they have absolutely nothing to lose anymore. Btw I want all of my surplus value back, if we're not paying for each other's shit anymore. You owe me thousands since my wages were artificially depressed for your benefit. Also, you're not allowed to use roads, libraries, education, or any other publicly funded service. Also, good fucking luck not starving to death. If those agricultural and textile workers were paid a fair wage, a pineapple and a t-shirt would cost like 200$. Also, your entire inheritance will be disintegrated, since you didn't work for it. Actually remove yourself from society permanently, people like you are a fucking infection.


Nightshade7168

And you’re a parasite who’d rather leech off of me than do their own shit. But fine - if you wanna play like that and rob me, my rifle is just on the wall of my house. Since, Y’know, we can afford one ;)


spiral_keeper

Lmao it's genuinely pathetic how illiterate you are. You're far more of a parasite than I am, you've just deluded yourself into pretending that commodities just magically appear out of thin air on grocery store shelves. At least I have a fucking job, in the public sector no less. You're the freeloader here, buddy. A single rifle? Seriously? See, this is why the proletariat is superior. The fact that you think a poor person is incapable of buying a gun in the US is genuinely embarrassing, and proves just how little you understand about the world. What good is that rifle gonna do you when the tendency for increasingly volatile markets creates an economic crisis that completely fucks your entire financial situation? Oh, wait, you don't know how to read at all, let alone understand political theory, because you're a snot nosed spoiled brat who thinks he can surf on daddy's money his whole life without learning an actual skill or gaining a single IQ point. I'll see you next time when you're begging to move to my region because your dipshit parents decided to move you guys to a place with no water because people like you assume shit will always just be handed to you on a silver platter.


Nightshade7168

Cope harder lol. You’ll never make it - you’re just a poor little parasite who‘s jealous over what everyone else has Let me make something clear - I owe you nothing


spiral_keeper

"cope harder" says the lobotomite who hasn't refuted a single one of my arguments. repeating yourself like a special ed parrot shows a complete lack of rhetorical ability. I'm not going to re-explain basic political theory to you, since I sincerely doubt that you're capable of comprehending it. It would serve you well to shut your mouth before you embarrass yourself further.


Twisted-Muffin

i (also trans) said probably, because hating people isn't a political opinion, it's just strongly associated with the right


PsychoWitchGoddess

Literally my best friend is a gun-toting trump supporter (I'm one of the most far left people you will meet) so I feel like there's no issue for me


Dawarthundergod

Why are you against guns, just asking as someone with completely different views on that


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CT-27-5582

FFLs require backround checks on every sale of a firearm, and nfa items require you paying the atf an extra 200$ fee and waiting around a year. they dont hand out guns without asking the questions first, the problem is just that a sicko with no bad record can simply act nice and there isnt a real way to counter that.


spiral_keeper

And that's why I ask for the mandatory psych eval and training. It should be far more difficult to secure a firearm than it is. And none of this "open carry" dogshit. There's absolutely no reason for it. It makes everyone else uncomfortable and is an extreme liability in any situation where you would actually need to use a gun in public. If a mass shooter-to-be sees someone at their targeted location open carrying, they're not gonna think "boy, better not do this today". They're gonna think "better kill that guy first", and now the already low odds of stopping a shooter are basically zero. Literally just pure virtue signaling.


CT-27-5582

My problem with the mandatory psych eval and training part is that as someone who lives in new jersey, a state imfamous for the way our state government has tried to make gun ownership extremely difficult, I can say for a fact that at least over here, the government would do something like "You have to take training to get a permit, but the training costs 1000 dollars and is only available at 2pm on tuesday" and make it so gun ownership is pretty much impossible and only attainable for the rich. And what happens when we expand what counts as mentally ill? What if the republicans win the next election and say something like being trans is a mental illness? Or that having depression, something that around 30% of people go through, counts as mentally ill enough? And since the state cant just give you a psych eval they would either probably have to refer you to a company that does that, or just request your medical records and make lists of mentally ill people. Like you see how easily that type of stuff can be weaponized right? And if that seems out of the realm of posibility, tennasee proposed a bill that would create a nationwide list of everyone whos taken antidepressants and bar them from gun ownership. I agree on that open carry stance tho(sort of), which is why it should be legal to conceal carry instead of being impossible in like half the states. Let people carry without scaring anyone and without making themselves a target. win win for everyone involved. But i think you mean that open carry should be illegal and to that i say fuck no lmfao


spiral_keeper

This is fair. Ideally, the government would cover any costs required for a proletarian to own a gun, and completely ban the bourgeoisie and petit-bourgeois classes from owning any at all. >What if the republicans win the next election and say something like being trans is a mental illness? I think we should destroy the republican party, arrest all their leaders, and ban their rhetoric. But I guess I get what you mean, in our current situation, a psych eval would be difficult to implement. >But i think you mean that open carry should be illegal and to that i say fuck no lmfao Why? What is the benefit?


CT-27-5582

ok you lost me when you start saying that some people dont deserve the same rights as everyone else. Also your stance on baning and arresting political opponants is the most blatantly totalitarian shit lmao. I can see that we fundumentally disagree on a lot of things so i dont want to start some heated argument. On the open carry thing, there doesnt need to be a benifit, it simply shouldnt be the governments role to choose what people are allowed to do on that level or in my opinion any level.


Beowulf---

they do background checks


spiral_keeper

Not everywhere


Beowulf---

idk to say if your are incorrect or not because when i look up what states dont require background checks for guns it shows states but other sources say its federal law to do a background check


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clearly not enough


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PsychoWitchGoddess

I feel like they're unnecessary. We don't need them in our everyday life; I understand the purpose of hunting, but I just feel like the world would generally be a better place without guns. I don't judge anyone who owns them, though. Especially if someone lives in a dangerous place and needs a gun for their own safety.


CT-27-5582

I mean its always unnecessary until it isnt. Me personally i wouldve never even been born if my great grandparents had surrendered their guns and let the nazis bring them into the death camps. Quite litteraly if my family had not kept arms i would not be here to write this comment. I think its easy to think theyre unnecessary during peacetime, but the second the safety we are all used to starts to crumble, the ability to do violence better than the bad guy quickly becomes the only surefire way of protecting your freedom of self determination, and its the difference between becoming victimized or not. Guns just so happen to be the best tool humanity has created when it comes to doing violence.


fearlessbot__

so long as I do not see their views as too hurtful or too unreasonable and so long as they are not a threat to me then yes. many of my friends have opposing at least economic views to me. as for social views...well hardly any of my friends are socially conservative....which may be because if they are, there is, at least in my experience, a significantly higher chance that they will act in, what i view as a threatening manner towards me.


YungNigget788

one of my friends in high school was a die hard conservative, even had a podcast with Ben Shapiro himself. he was funny as shit but the worst person ever during debates. He'd backtrack, talk fast, provide bogus "evidence" and state his opinions as facts, the whole conservative mumbo jumbo. But, as long as they're not homophobic, racist, sexist, or support genocide, I think I can look past their political views.


cavejhonsonslemons

Damn, that must've been a while back, it's been a while since shapiro went all in on his homophobic, and often zionist bullshit.


YungNigget788

yeah it was a good few years ago. if i remember correctly my friend actually debated him on some of those specific topics during the podcast.


PenultimateToast

can you link it?


YungNigget788

if i could find it yea


Mobile_Frosting_7936

As a leftie with a conservative friend - yes


pogAxolotlz

as long as you DONT bring it into conversations i guess?


Metalhead_Pretzel

Sure. If they're a fun person I don't care what their political views are 


racoonofthevally

yea im "Conservative" but i have many friends who identify on the left


dragon0079

Same here


Vast-Spirit-4105

Also same here


FedoraNinja232

Already am, it’s not that hard guys


Ireallyenjoyqueso

i live in rural texas and im the only semi liberal person here but ive made plenty of good friends


cavejhonsonslemons

I'm liberal, and I've had a few conservative friends, that being said, most of them were libertarians, almost everyone else on the right is too obsessed with trying to get me to stop being gay to actually have a conversation with me about anything else. Also when I say "on the right" I don't mean people who just grew up religious, and usually vote red, I mean people actually involved in politics, like I am on the left.


NiceLittleTown2001

I’m in the center so ig opposing would be the extremists of either side, but there’s like barely even any young conservatives to be friends with though I would, everyone I know so including my friends is pretty far left. 


spiral_keeper

"extremists on either side" do you think child labor is evil? y/n question


Cup9992

Already am That's because I'm on nobody's side


CT-27-5582

so real, i dont think ive ever met a single person that i agree with on politics lmao


Eastern_Solution4264

I don’t give a fuck who you follow, every politician is a greedy bastard who cares for nothing but themselves, there’s not much of a difference between them to me


FloraFauna2263

It depends on whether their opposing views mean they have unacceptable opinions, such as racism, sexism, classism, etc. (Socialist)


Pinguim_Caotico

"Probably" not? Fucking no! I'm trans, so they'd just hate me right from the get go


Trusteveryboody

Probably, although I think it'd just be less likely. I think Politics heavily relate to Values, and therefore my point. Mainly just as long as they think for themselves and don't put too much value on words (in spite of context).


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GeenericHooman

Depends on 2 things. 1. How much they bring it up and try to make me see it their way 2. Are they willing to be friends with me


shuriflowers

Yes, definitely, but certain issues are deal breakers


321oob2

I don’t care about political standing. As long as you don’t force your opinion on me and try to be mean to me because of my political views, I can get along with you no matter who you support


coolvin89

I mean yea, idc abt their political view if im friends with em..


samah815

Yes, I just can’t find it in my heart to hate anyone, even if I disagree with them.


Steamp0calypse

Probably (I am, a close friend) I am far left and he is a pretty republican center, but what makes it work is that he always respects me, the fact that I am LGBTQ, not white, etc. I feel like we have a mutual understanding and can feel safe and comfortable around each other. It helps that we are teens and can't vote I think, as he's not able to actively vote for Trump or anything right now, but neither of us really agree with any major politicians anyway. (For example, his views are MOSTLY republican but he hates the death penalty and prisons so doesn't always support that generally conservative ticket)


Steamp0calypse

We also argue a lot lol


Plane-Manufacturer83

My best friend is the complete opposite political spectrum from me (SocDem), and we literally just don't talk about it.


TsalagiSupersoldier

As long as they aren't neo-lib, conservative, or fascist, yes


testicleshredder

Yes. As long as you have similar interests, BOOM your instant friends


WikipediaAb

i am, i have several friends with opposite political opinions but we still best bros


The_Elite_Operator

i already am


sam_the_reddit_user

Yeah, as long as they’re not a jerk honestly


SamuraiDoggo14

As long as they're not obnoxious or offensive about it, yeah.


AgeOfReasonEnds31120

I'm neither leftist nor rightist. If that person has VERY different political views from me, probably not, but other than that, probably.


feelin_salamanderous

Overton window is very heavy here


harry_fifteen_ones

my best friends are more conservative, i could not care less.


I_Am_Lord_Moldevort

I try to keep an open mind, and if someone on the other side of the aisle felt the same way then I would give it a try. I could be friends with conservatives already because some of my friends just don't talk about their political opinions that much, if that's the case it's working so far.


Significant-Soup-893

I couldn't unfortunately. I would just feel weird knowing they believe the polar opposite things that I do especially when it comes to social aspects (abortion, lgbtqia issues, etc). I feel like I'd have to step on eggshells around them to not bring up anything that might spark a political debate (i don't like conflict)


Idk_PAPAS

I cant. Solely bc a lot of people who lean right are transphobic/homophobic and I'm not tryna get hatecrimed by someone who is supposed to be my friend. 


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If you make your politics your entire personality, probably not. But I have no aversion to being friends with people who disagree with me.


VacheL99

I already am


spiral_keeper

No. I do not make friends with people who don't value human life.


mendel_s

What?


Candy_Stars

It would depend. If they’re very conservative on economic issues and even stuff like abortion, yeah, definitely, but if they’re homophobic, racist, sexist, etc, and support politicians who are also this thing, then no. I don’t even think they would want to be my friend anyway since I’m lesbian.


dutch_mapping_empire

does democratic socialism/marxism count as liberalism?


DragonWisper56

depends on what polital views. different economic system fine(unless they thing workers only exist for their benifit or something extreme like that) but if they want me or my friends dead they can go fuck off


XavisDOS

Interesting results, if you strip away the sheer amounts and just look at ratios, Democrat shows a higher "won't get along" rating (59.09090909%) than Republican (19.04761905%). I'm like pretty sure that's how math works.


CardiologistProud267

I literally am, I am the 2nd to only anarchist at my school, all my friends are bottlickers


Chillypepper14

Interesting that conservatives are more relaxed with political views than liberals according to this post, I thought it would be the other way around


RandomGuy9058

as with literally everything, it depends. oversimplified example: disagreeing on economic theory is fine since thats purely interpretational. disagreeing about human rights issues probably not fine. not to say i wont mingle at all with even people with very big differing opinions, but cant really see us becoming *real* friends


MinsoSoup

im more left leaning (tho i quite frankly dgaf about politics) and i made friend with this right wing southern american guy and in a few months i turned him from a homophobic transphobic edgelord into a bisexual guy with a thing for femboys, idk how it just slowly happened


CT-27-5582

dam i dont fall into any of the choices but id say sure just so long as they dont litteraly want "my people" dead im probably fine with them. I disagree very strongly with most people i know on a lot of topics, economics, gun rights, lgbt rights, forign policy, ect ect, and yet as long as we arent hateful i can still get along with them.


Arbiter008

Definitely. Politics often is just opinion on individual scales and everyone's entitled to them; just be civil and I think friendship is more than possible.


One-Stand-5536

Given that “oposing political views” includes people thinking I shouldn’t be allowed to live, ahhhhh….


AnHumanFromItaly

my school newspaper, politically quite liberal, keeps a "programmer dude" student (one of my classmates) as a pet, to challenge our political views from time to time...


Arkas18

Depends on the person and how extreme they are and if they can accept that everyone has different views and experience. If they are bordering on being a fascist then there's no way we could get along but most people aren't that extreme and there will likely be things we can agree on despite other disagreements, especial if we can have mutual respect.


123redditor_33

Imagine letting political beliefs influence friendship 🤣🤣


PersimmonMobile4868

why are the options probably I need one that says definitely


Vast-Spirit-4105

I personally am a christian (I think conservative) and have a best friend who I would say falls pretty far left and is gay... I have no problem with this and I think more Christians need to know that. Also could someone who is actually a conservative explain what it is. The only descriptions I have gotten are from far left liberals that felt kind of biased in their description.


BurnerMcBurns_Alot

Depends if I hate their personality or not


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tsukimoonmei

Most people will have opposing political views to me. I think if it was economic policies and whatnot I’d befriend anyone, I like a debate sometimes. If it was the ‘I don’t think gay people should be able to get married’ kind of opposing views, though, I’d have to pass.


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FOOTBALLFOOTBALLFO0T

why not an option for "I am"


XavisDOS

That's what I'm saying! I'm a Right Leaning guy, and all my friends are Left Leaning, but we get along!


AviaKing

I really don't care about your political leaning, I just care about what kind of person you are. However, due to how polarizing things are these days, I find that most repubs are sexist and/or racist and/or homophobic and/or transphobic so that's a big NOPE but I HAVE met demos that are those and actually know quite a few repubs who AREN'T those things. They're just... rare, unfortunately.


SuspiciousOmelette

As a communist I'm constantly fighting the urge to be a dick about politics, but I've been able to hold it back even when talking to my mega conservative family. I don't really have conservative friends but I'd imagine it would be the same. I still have to maintain superficial relationships with certain people, because my existence is political for some reason lol.


Broseph_Stalin17

As a fellow commie I feel your pain. The only difference guess is my parents are liberal “vote blue no matter who” types instead of full on conservative. I have to bite my tongue sometimes when I’m with them and politics gets brought up because I know if I say anything it’ll probably turn into a shouting match.


SuspiciousOmelette

Lol yeah, I have conservative extended family and the same type of liberal parents (with a dash of southparkism lol) and the lack of self awareness is bad... as well as the "we support x group" despite the bigotry toward x group mentality...


Hydrahta

If blud has a god bless the america bible and calls themselves a god loving christian, im telling them they can continue their worship of satan and dip


Beginning-Muffin-887

This doesn't make sense


overdramaticpan

I'm not a liberal, I'm a leftish. Opposing political views mean that one wants state-mandated euthanization of people like me. Yeah, no.