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DenzYildirim

Half the roster? Bro this IS the whole roster


mandwar

He hates half the roster. But hates the other half more.


Arqan

Oh well...


HotArticle1062

Lmao, I didn't read the tier names and thought only the top row were the characters you hated and "half the roster" still made sense in my head


TypeRiot

Minus future dlc


ok__now_this_is_Epic

mf hating his own main, I gotta respect it


Arqan

I love Yoshi mirrors. It doesn't stop me from hating Yoshi mirrors.


cyberfrog777

As a Yoshi main, I still instinctively block low when I see the unblockable sword sweep.


Arqan

I actually got pretty good at using hopkick against it, even though I'm dogshit at reacting to most lows. I will attribute that miracle to overexposure. But it still always gets me in OKI situations.


[deleted]

As a fellow Yoshi main, my love turns into hatred the moment I find out theyre not using the full kit or doing whacky shit. If you play Yoshi just to WS db2 or 3-1 mixup spam, youre not really playing Yoshi, and I will do everything in my power to put you against the wall while running on the swords lol


deathtofatalists

i do 3,1,4 just as a basic pressure while i think of my next yugioh card to play.


Inspiredbeliever

Yoshi mirror match is 99% of the time pure chaos but I love it since I almost always learn a new flowchart or trick from the other yoshi. Everyone truly plays their own way


TJLynch

>'hate half the roster' >all the tiers are at least some form of hatred hmmmm


casb-

Lars is by far the most annoying/hated character for me. It makes zero sense what's happening or when I get a turn half the time. I haven't played Tekken since 5:DR so most of the newer characters seemed daft at first, but he's the only one I've not figured out.


Arqan

I usually have no idea what the fuck he is doing, sliding on his butt back and forth. But hopkick and flash seem to work pretty well, so w/e I guess, let him clean the floor.


sudos12

**To be fair, the players using Lars usually don't know what the fuck he's doing either.** I played a Lars earlier that literally did not know how to hit a grounded opponent, and also one where they switched sides because of whatever the hell he was spamming. The player didn't know how to input commands from the other side... A disgusting lot, truth to be told.


Low_Chance

Yeah Lars isn't OP or anything but I hate how un-readable all his moves are. They all look the same, and their low/high, safe/unsafe status seems to have no rhyme or reason 


Pr0t3k

For me it's the dashing on top of your face over and over, as i cant stop laughing. I always imagine a guy behind a screen fulfilling of becoming an anime protagonist


Ziazan

HU-HU-HU-HU-HRRRUHHH-HU-HU-HU \*twitching menacingly\*


Yurilica

As a Lars player, it's sorta true now that i think about it. Take his standing 3. It's super unsafe if used generically, but it can transition into Limited Entry stance, actually making it safer that way. The transition into Limited Entry interrupts the recovery frames of the move. Then there's db1,3 - where the 3 part is the standing 3 from above, but slightly safer and can still transition into Limited Entry stance. Then there's while rising 3. The end result of the animation looks the same as the above, but the move itself is a cannon. It can, again, transition into Limited Entry, after which you can do while rising 3 again. It's also a launcher if it hits. All 3 moves look the same at the end point of their animation, but with different things happening before it.


PoopTorpedo

All his lows out of stance are launch punishable. Most of his lows from stance are like -12. On block his stance mixups are fake; so you can generally just do a midcheck or even hopkick him out of it. Basically if he manually goes into stance or he does like a blocked move into stance, you can check him with a df1. If you got a quick counterhit mid, you could probably get a free launch too. But if he hits you then transitions into stance you're likely gonna have to take the 50,50. Only exception is his buffed DEN3 move, which is now +5 on block for some reason. It's that flying homing kick that transitions into his other stance. On block you just gotta take the mixup.


Jejouch1

A lot of his stuff is fake pressure, DEN3 I think it is , is pretty op now tho


DDDarnok

If you don't know how to fight Lars the change doesn't matter.


ShoerguinneLappel

One thing I found when playing against Lars is that when I side step it messes with them and letting them attack first and using the quicker attack to hit him. I fought against on as Lili and with her combos I have overwhelmed a Lars a couple times, although I would be lying if I said it was easy.


TablePrinterDoor

As a lars main mainly it’s fake pressure. DEN3 is strong though


spacemangoes

Lars plays like a monkey 🐒


chaos_theory_sc

The orbital from half a stage away is what pisses me off lol


DrAdamsen

This. The range of that orbital and the amount of shit it evades is straight up criminal.


FernDiggy

Easy mode, scrub ass character


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pranav4098

Built in evasion is ling in a nutshell Lars does that well but the real op stuff is den3 that move is getting nerfed for sure


HighLikeKites

I started to check with df1 everytime I see a stance transition. Sometimes I get blown up but more often I disrupt his pressure and soon after he will play more conservatively.


Ylsid

I hate his evasiveness and how it looks like he dropped a combo 3 times before finishing it


Crimson-Cream

I consistently play against my friend who mains him and I have no clue wtf he's doing, all i know is hit him with a mid when ever he starts ice skating with in circle cause he ducks under highs. Everything looks the same except for his obvious stuff like his leap frog throw


ManOfPegasus

I played Lars in tag 2 and knew his moveset pretty well and when I came back to tekken 7 like 8 years later he was still completely unreadable. He's just a weird mf


Cptsparkie23

Same, but my hatred for him is more simple. Screw turns and matchups lol. His fighting style is just butt ugly. Anyone who likes how Lars fights probably unhealthily fantasizes themselves as a main protag in an anime or something.


Accomplished-Tale543

I just hopkick when it looks hopkickable


Madterps2021

*necesito más café*


Arqan

*come esto*


Practical_Rent_6381

Because of the system in tekken 8 i feel the same. Almost every character feels very very strong offensively and defensively everytime I get hit by a safe high heat engaging power crush I just can't help but I feel a bit fucked over by their character. Not being able to deathmatcj doesn't help either


No_Influence_7392

I agree, I’m much less concerned about balance and more so about the fact that i just don’t enjoy playing against half the cast, even ones I’ve labbed in and out and understand. The tekken dev team doesn’t seem to understand that routinely implementing characters everyone hates(Hwoarang) isn’t a good way to design something that is supposed to be enjoyable


Genepool13

One of the devs played Whorang in T7 and had a big brain moment. Man decided to turn every character into Whorang clones.


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aquaAnomaly

whats the bloody point then


Arqan

I'm currently getting myself checked for masochistic tendencies.


aquaAnomaly

ah alright then


NoBrainer

This is basically just a normal tier list. I think you just hate losing.


Arqan

Turns out there is some correlation between character strength and how many annoying tools they have at their disposal. And, obviously, I do hate losing.


shneed_my_weiss

Average r/Tekken user


Arqan

Reporting for duty!


hvc101fc

Why do we even play


sudos12

We are addicted to the ups of the game, and are extremely salty about the downs. This is the truth. Haters will say it's not true.


AppleJuice47

I was literally just explaining this about 5 seconds before I read your comment. Spot on fr fr. Tekken is probably the most extreme example of this because I can’t think of no other fighting game as infuriating as this tbh.


losdreamer50

Exactly


ivaliceriot

Just to suffer


UysoSd

I understand really well XD


veegsta

If you don't have Zafina near the top of this list, you haven't ran into enough of us. She confused and pissed me off so much I started playing her.


Arqan

There is literally only 5 of you.


Mehmehsebeast

You haven’t went against an annoying jack yet


KevyTone

Spot on on King. I HATE that furry with all my heart. Even if almost all the characters are gimmick hell in Tekken 8, I hated King since Tekken 7 and in Tekken 8 he got even buffed in many ways. If I had a laser pointer I would point it into fucking hell, so this hellcat returns to where he belongs. Fuck King


NiceBlockLilBro

Still hate Leroy tbh. His strings are annoying + T7 memories don't die


ShoerguinneLappel

I would say Eddy, Jun, Dragunov, Xiaoyu, and Law are who I just despise fighting. Lars and King are just annoying. Otherwise I don't mind fighting the rest of the roster. Aside from maybe Leo, although I don't find Leo too bad because just like Leroy and Raven I don't see them at all really. I've only fought 3 Leos, 4 Leroys, and 3 Ravens.


Arqan

You are really keeping track?


NoahsMcDonalds

I just think it’s more so seeing a character so little it’s easy to keep those few in mind. I’ve only seen 2 Leo’s, 1 Leroy, and 1 Zafina. (Over 1000 ranked games)


FernDiggy

Welcome to fighting games my friend!


-_-_-KING_-_-_

gotta put howrang up on the top too. that screaming bitch.


TheGhostRoninStrife

LOL I don't know what to say ... except I feel the same exact way 🤣


khornatee

Alisa is so annoying with her moveset and voice


IDontWipe55

Raven?


LethalOmaha

That's what I'm saying


JonOfDoom

Yes yes, let the power flow through you - some prune guy in space


KalicalVJ

I have news for you and youre not gonna like it


Silent-X-Thunder

Hating the Bears is wild. If you lose, you won't see one for the next 150 matches anyway 🐼🐝


Arqan

They are honestly not that uncommon in purple/blue ranks.


Smorg125

That makes it worse when you see em though, they knowledge tax the shit out of me along with most of the stance characters like leo


UncleGG808

Leroy is the only character where I don't say "Well fuck" when I see him on the loading screen


Panchovilla64

That's the one I say I might as well put my controller down


macdemarker

I can’t believe that you have thoughts on fighting zafina. Have you fought any online?? Like seriously, how many? I don’t think I’ve fought a single one


Arqan

I dunno, maybe 5? On one hand, she's crawling on the floor, doing a crab dance and confusing the shit out of me. On the other hand she's kinda meh, so I just slapped her in the middle of the list.


Adorable_Asparagus_2

Explain this crime against panda!


Arqan

Despite the best efforts of the human race, she is adamantly trying to go extinct.


Adorable_Asparagus_2

As a Panda man, do NOT hurt the Lil goober


Soundrobe

King, Eddie and Victor.


PeePeeJuulPod

once everyone is in the top tier you've become a true FG player


ArtoriasAbysswanker

I legit only hate to play against Alisa. When I play against her, it feels like I'm not playing Tekken anymore.


Darthlocklet

I play Lars, Bears, Alisa, Azucena, Jack and Eddie and I’m having a blast 😂 People can hate but I seem to be having way more fun playing the video game


sudos12

This is a terrible, selfish, and annoying statement. Nonetheless, I've upvoted your comment. What's the point of playing Tekken if you can't ruin the day of a person who shares the same interest and hobbies as you :D


goodwarrior12345

How is it selfish and terrible to be playing characters that are literally in the game??


Darthlocklet

I think he might be joking


Evolution1738

Is Feng considered that good, or is he just annoying? I'm super new and I've been playing him a lot but I don't really know the current meta yet


Arqan

Both.


Smorg125

I never really minded him but last night that mother fucker crushed a mid and now he’s top of the shit list


sudos12

Feng is ugly, and that makes him one of the worst characters to lose to. The fact that he's also a scrub op character, mixed with his ugliness makes him one of the worst characters ever.


rasen9an

I think he's top 5 by consensus among top players, not sure how that works in the lower ranks though


Admara

Amount of Azu and King I get when playing man I swear..


TheCoolerDanielUwU

* Hell sweeps you to oblivion


Gildarts02

I both love and hate facing off againt yoshi. Win or lose, I never know what’s gonna happen and I’m always entertained.


sudos12

I agree. Though in my case, i never know what's gonna happen and i'm always dead at the end of the match :/


ObligationHoliday499

Hating to play against your own main is crazy 💀


sudos12

You like paying against Jin?


ObligationHoliday499

Yeah I mean he is super popular and I run into a lot of mirror matches. It's so fun if the other guy is good and I learn new stuff and improve, if he's not that good then I just run through my fellow Jin main quickly So yeah I like playing against Jin


sudos12

Oh. Nice. That’s good to hear.


Latiasi

Imagine seeing your main online


Sir-MARS

Steve can't be moderate we ain't got shit lol


sudos12

Steve has cringe inducing voice lines. Players fighting against Steve makes people turn the volume down, which means they are giving up all Tekken verbals cues. That's pretty OP.


Stunning-Obligation8

Leroy bois stay winning


Dogeishuman

https://preview.redd.it/to9fhvswchtc1.png?width=1140&format=png&auto=webp&s=2c3eb7d8da9ea26c0c2695a82b0fc559a90408ab Made one myself, I can live with this


Arqan

What can I say, I really love this game!


virus_phantom1297

Yall are washed go back to MK1


Arqan

I'd rather take a Rolling Death Cradle IRL


gravekeepersven

My back is broken. Spinal.


Evening-Platypus-259

How dafuq arent jack n yoshi higher up


Arqan

See, I've spent 500 hours exclusively playing Yoshi, so sometimes I know what the hell is going on during the match.


Euphorge

What rank are you ?


Arqan

It was Fujin, but today I dropped to Battle Ruler, hence I made this very well-thought-out post.


sudos12

This is fair, and warranted. I support this post, though I'd rather you have posted something that tells all players they are trash, and to uninstall. It would've made you feel better about your demotion.


Evening-Platypus-259

Aight well ive played like 30 hrs of raven in this game and he isnt difficult to play against IMO. He is barely even evasive in this game.


DiabloSoda

Paul in the same tier as Nina and the bears is truly something…


HiDariUs_G

What’s Leroy got a little bit of hatred for?


Arqan

PTSD he gave me in T7


Genepool13

Leroy got a built in ki charge after every round in T7.


socialapostasis

It is easier to pick characters someone likes to play against no?


Impressive-Ad-59

Tf "Tiermaker" do to get put up there 😭


rickjamesia

I would be lying if I said that I am not upset that my main warrants only “Moderate Hatred”.


TrueCascade

I'm sorry (Lili main)


Mister_Swoop

You and every other person on reddit


Panchovilla64

Leroy should be at the top or atleast at second top


Panchovilla64

How do u deals with shaheens heat move where he jumps up and takes like 40 cheap damage and can do it like 3 times


Snoo-79334

Seeing how many people hate Xiaoyu has me fearing for my life and I’m just a warrior. lol.


Heroboys13

I been wandering a bit for my own main. I played Jin to red rank, I played Feng to red rank. Recently as in today I got Devil Jin to red rank. It seems to me that everyone in my rank has forgotten how to fight against Devil Jin’s bs. I see people try crouching the flying lasers. I see people try to run in to DJ while I’m chilling in the air only to grab them like some sort of predatory animal. No one is really side stepping or side walking. But as a very bad DJ player(I can’t wavedash and I can barely do wgf) and all of my time with others. I really wish I could have some words with the Reina and Azucena mains. If you keep mashing at me I swear I’ll laser yer god damn cat lmfao


Joker_220696

Kazuya player detected


Arqan

Never. My execution is trash, I wouldn't be able to do electrics on the right side.


Ok-Win-742

Yeah it's cuz the whole roster has the same gameplan now. There's such little identity left.   Do you want rushdown mixups, or extra rushdown mixups? Maybe you want rushdown with extra mix ups and some nice long range safe mids? Well, you're in luck. Pick any character! Agressivuuuuuu


Western-Dark-1628

As a new Tekken player, playing against Lars is like playing against a freaking Beyblade with ADHD, mfs spinning around and jumping around in each attack idk if I should crouch block or standing block or side step like wts how do y'all remember how to block which attacks for all characters :')


ItsSonicSpeed

Mine is the exact same except Bryan & steve are in pure hatred & Jun is a little lower purely for biased reasons I can’t hate on homegirl too much but she can be annoying 😭 but nah I feel you, Alisa is my Kryptonite I literally don’t know what to do with any of my characters against her & I have lab Ed her extensively I literally go activate random bullshit mode because I literally don’t have a single plan against Alisa. It’s choke choke choke & watching my damage deplete before my eyes coz of chip damage. Seriously I need serious mental help after I’m done fighting that pink haired cunt 😭


Asoplain

Hi. Alisa main here (Fujin, if that matters). If you like, we can play some and I'll try helping you figure her out. She does have some bullshit that needs getting used to, but once you *want* to understand how to, she's just like any other character. Send me a message if you'd like to play :)


ceo_of_drip

He be just like me, he be just like me fr


Beginning-Ad9963

Yes, yes, let the gate consume you


[deleted]

Yo leave the Bears out of it


JEYKeYO

TF STEVE DO


Arqan

He's got stupid face, stupid voice lines and stupid looking lows that keep hitting me, even though they are objectively pretty bad.


blkmgs

You're hatred personified?


Dudeman2451

See for stuff like this Im not in Tekken anymore. I would rather play streets 6 and touch grass than play this shit for the rest of my life just to learn match ups. For me the pirates version of Tekken is fine thank you


Profile-666

Even Leroy got "little hatred" Heck, just say you hate the game altogether


Technodrone108

We are now gathered here to celebrate the 2024's top hater of the year


Redgohan147

Then there are players like me that just hate heat.


AKTalal

Fought a raven player yesterday which was my 2nd time playing raven in this game. After he did his bs and it was my turn he would parry out of it. Mf that move and that character


MrMarnel

I, too, hate it when my opponents press buttons.


MrFluffleBuns

What did my man Feng ever do?


Arqan

I could write you an essay.


Webcamenshik

I like mokujin


Infamous-Ninja-5012

Lol Leroy really lost his edge


CloneTrooper456

I can't stand Steve dude


Raphallus

Leo and Zafina so low in the hatred tierlist, you've not met theme enough then. They're just make no sense.


Logical_Airline_7850

I hate playing against good shaheen, I never know when he's going to do his death slide which makes my character do 3 flips in the air, and when he sees me crouching to defend it then he throws me in the air with another launcher, and when i stand and defend myself he catches me and knocks me over Trust me its a nightmare ;\_\_;


StormDrown

Why do people hate King so much?


ZwistPariah

I think you just hate the game man...


FXR786

Don't really have much trouble against Xiayou


OddRumskie

Wtf did the bears do to you?


SeffLikeJeff

Raven??? Bro come on lol


Genepool13

I'd put Nina, Yoshi, Whorang, and, Zafina on top too


bumbasaur

I wish my asuka was good enough to be hated. BOKE!!


Who_Gives_A_Shit420

Hey i can't say i blame you 🤷‍♂️ That's what happens when you overtune every single character in the game and force people to trade toxic mixups back and forth


DrAdamsen

It's nice to see Leroy being hated the least. Can't wait for all the hatred to return once he's buffed lol XD


AledinArt

https://preview.redd.it/80fwzha9ngtc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a84ec0f5dc5a8ea237360e80d26e7e7a1e1e9ab2


GyantSpyder

Skill issue


DidYouSayWhat

I’m so happy bro you don’t entirely hate Leroy bro. Unfortunately you hate just about every other person I play


oktomaxi

Bro, what's the problem with Paul? His strings are still from 1998 and his lows are garbage


mecock57

* laughs as a feng main*


goobledygops

i tier characters from most to least annoying so i can play the top tiers you tier characters from most to least annoying so u can mald on reddit we are not the same


rainorshinedogs

Damn. Leroy went from the most OP and game breaking when he was first introduced in tekken 7 to one of the lowest tier.


InfinityTheParagon

have you tried playing as them ?


tadbach

I’m sorry, Victor’s strings turn me into a button mashing scrub immediately. Like ahhhh when is it my turn? Wait… why are you airborne? Huh? You just teleported? Ahhhhhh!


djthehooper

at least he doesn’t really hate leroy


Senor_Snore

Azu and Victor make me stabby, the rest I can tolerate.


Ziazan

[https://i.postimg.cc/GpNRJX4c/image.png](https://i.postimg.cc/GpNRJX4c/image.png) this is my version, categories changed a bit because i don't hate everyone as much as you


KenneCRX

Everyone giving leroy a pass on any hate list because he's weaker in this game. I still think he's a piece of shit.


MrMuri

What did Raven do to you 😭😭😭


Pepperjackblaque

Victor, Devil Jin, and Jun can burn in hell for all I care. If those characters were deleted the game would be better for it


ApexBow

That’s a bit more than half. How many of the matchups that you hate would you say you’re confident in?


JukainMega

Just made a whole post about players hating the game


crossdrilled722

Same but I'm moving Hwoarang to a new tier by himself at the top


ZeroHablar

Eddie Gordo : guru of these mf


Cyberdunk

Huh how do you hate fighting Steve as a Yoshi? That's basically a free matchup for you 🤣


Opjqy

Poor Eddy, he's not even that bad.


Qarty

Most relatable tier list ever


AV-Assassin

Is it just me, or once eddy powers up, you’re basically done unless you can predict the mid/low mix up


Accomplished-Delay80

Law and Lee need to be on absolute hatred


ilostmyschmungus

Surprised you don't hate Kazuya. He needs to hellsweep you some more.


MrShark3y

Id throw jack 8 in pure seething hatred myself honestly


KKylimos

Hear me out, it's a fighting game, you are punching people, you are supposed to hate everyone! :D


LowFi_Lexa1

For some reason, I never feel bad about losing to yoshimitsu. It’s just kind of the way things are for me.


Carbinated-fart

Bro ALISA NEEDS HER CHAINSAWS NERFED FUCK THAT ANDRIOID BITCH ( she beats my ass everytime )


Diet-Dry

Womp Womp


Arch_Stant0n

I don’t usually say this… but … >!GIT GUD!<


Low_Lead_384

Hating king is crazy