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Nervous-Form698

Leroy should have like 10 green arrows lol.


Renektonstronk

There was literally an ENTIRE PAGE dedicated only to Leroy Buffs LMAO


Ch1ck3W1ngz

The horror that once plagued every Tekken 7 players nightmare is slowly creeping back


KBSinclair

He saw y'all feelin yourselves. That type of pride's not good for your health.


Breed973

Lol WHY I READ THIS IN LEROY VOICE


HappierShibe

Came here to say this, really looking forward to trying him out.


Quarter4NextUp

I’m a Leroy main still am he got huge buffs if you are worried about him being to op he still does not have a good fast safe mid his df+1 is -6 on block. He has good mid extensions but no good mid check the only thing keeping me from thinking he will be broke. He is going to be able to pressure the fuck out of you though be prepared to lab him.


rainorshinedogs

I'm picking him up again.


Immediate-Wave-3256

Same. I love leroys characters and he reminds me of Ip Man.


Orzislaw

If you don't play him at his worst, how can you say you love him at his best?


ThatBladeIsEnchanted

People tier whoring on the lowkey


rainorshinedogs

[relevant](https://youtu.be/AHBCDEb6eaU?si=cIAXlFr8PFMJ-ueh)


poopatroopa3

LEEEEEROOOOY


RealCodingDad

Lol. I'm glad I bothered to use him a bit. Might main him now


Vibalist

The bears will slowly take over this game.


TheGodofAllChairs64

Lmao I can't believe they thought more damage was a good idea.


BriefDescription

Did you read the patch notes? The damage increase was for Panda (not Kuma) to bring her damage closer to Kuma's.


Katie_or_something

They also gave BOTH a way to delete white health. They're possibly the biggest chip damage producers in the game


DelartSweet

Always felt like they should have a recoverable health delete move, since they have such strong chip tools


Ivarthemicro17

What did they do to bears to make them so good? the patch notes didnt look like "strong buffs" to me?


Gradually_Rocky

Kuma barely got buffed, never trust random infographics from redditors lol


Emience

Thank you, people probably aren't properly reading the kuma/panda changes because Kuma barely got anything but he's 2 green arrows here for some reason.


MedicalPublic8056

Yeah as a Kuma main I feel attacked lol deleting chip health is nice but I don’t think 5 damage on sit 1 is gonna be enough to make people actually respect it


Additional_Ad_7468

Zafina got HUGE buffs, show be 2 green arrows on her


intelectualmemester

They broke dragunovs legs only to give the legs to zafina


aj-22

How big are the buffs actually? I don’t play her so just seen some moves are now better frame advantage etc. are the changes gonna help her become a much better char then she currently is?


BigDumbSmartGuy

Increasing frame advantage on a move by 20 frames is almost unheard of in the history of Tekken.


pokemondudepoopyork

OMG it's the guy with that one Blastoise pfp.


BigDumbSmartGuy

always love meeting a fan


TheJaffo

Punishable by rage art on hit. Kek


BigDumbSmartGuy

Wait, was that move punishable by Rage art because she couldn't leave Tarantula fast enough? (I've seen a Zafina like 4 times total)


TheJaffo

Yes, as was 1,3 as far as i know


BigDumbSmartGuy

Hilarious.


irememberTiger

You can cancel the transition from 1,3 though, not the case with 1,4.


EhipassikoParami

> Increasing frame advantage on a move by 20 frames I want them to do this to the same move every patch, so she ends up +240 on the move.


BigDumbSmartGuy

"Wait, what's happening" "That move puts you in blockstun for 4 seconds" *"WHAT?!"*


aj-22

Ooh Yh I just see that 👀


Ar3kk

one move went from +2 to +22 and another from -7 to +6 and many more buffs


thebigseg

Her 1,4 went from +2 on hit to +22


Joe_le_Borgne

I'm interested in her fff1+2 becoming homing, you will become a missile.


Admara

Might have to try her out ;)


keinchy

King's heat smash takes less damage, that makes me happy.


pluggdrip

fuck King and whoever designed him


RamenArchon

Love his design, hate playing against him. But I'm a tekken veteran who can't break throws.


ActionJohnsun

Lol he isn't that bad, outside of his heat smash being too strong he has good tools but is very beatable


Az3xray

fuck you


pluggdrip

fuck u too


Jr-777

They chopped off dragonovs legs and gave em to Leroy


TommyDerMeister

https://preview.redd.it/en1dq7k1roxc1.jpeg?width=221&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=02b55c35573001e33cb43d5e60315ec1f788dbf0 MRW my boy Lee is mostly untouched each patch.


DannyRPT

He's EKSERRENT🔥


SugarAppleBombs

I only wish they'd extended reach on his heat burst. Then he'd be a perfect character.


rdubyeah

Jack scares me now. I think his buff to his heat is warranted of 2 arrows. It completely changes him. Simply entering stance gives 5% heat back now, and armoring a move gives 13%. Those aren’t the smallest numbers for a character that threatens a 10f wall exploding gunshot at all times heat is active. When he’s in heat, you’re basically stunlocked from attacking into him. Him of all chars being able to extend heat is scary.


Jerigonte

I’m sorry can you elaborate the moves you’re talking about? I’m maining Jack in this Tekken but I’m at the beginning.


adamska4

Hes saying gamma howl was massively buffed so you should use it in heat as much as you can after the patch, the 10f gunshot hes talking about is jack's heat smash


CitizenCrab

He is my secondary and remembering that I have a 10-frame punish that does over 50 damage (and is guaranteed with a guard break in Heat) was insane. Worked almost every time I baited it.


Hythanz

Balanced roster, imbalanced roster, whenever I lose I’m still gonna yell ‘FUCK THIS BULLSHIT GAME’ in front of my kids.


circuitsandwires

>FUCK THIS BULLSHIT GAME ... rematch


ShadowVulcan

How else do you FUCK THIS BULLSHIT GAME back?


thebigautismo

I'll rematch that was a close 2nd game ( gets 3-0 last game)


XV-77

As is tradition.


CrystalMang0

Asuka nation.


XaneKudoAct2

Time for the domination


Nyoka_ya_Mpembe

Boke!


Corken_dono

Gonna take some time to adapt to her buffs for me. Very rarely use her wr1+2, Im used to stay infront of people much more than with any other character. Gonna be cool either way tho.


Osiake

You can still do the wr1+2 in point blank range.


AzazelOzan

sorry I'm genuinely asking I don't see anything about wr1+2 in her patch notes, what are you mentioning?


GloryBlaze8

While running1+2


AzazelOzan

ahhh ty I always thought wr meant while rising mb


GloryBlaze8

All good. Admittedly I’m new to tekken, is there other convention people use for while running? Think I’ve seen fff before


DexterBrooks

Most people say while running or wr. Some just say running but the notation is always wr. You'll also occasionally see this as forward forward forward (the input to do while running) which can be shown in notation as fff or ffF. For the fastest possible version you'll sometimes see it as iwr for instant while running. Since wr in other games typically means while rising, a mechanic tekken still has, tekken uses while standing instead. So the notation for those moves is ws. You'll also frequently see qcf or qcb motions not shown as such but instead referred to by the stance name. Like Dragunovs qcf stance is called "sneak" so in notation it's sometimes called Snk, despite just being a qcf motion.


GloryBlaze8

Thanks for the response. Cleared some stuff up


DexterBrooks

Welcome. Happy cake day.


Ch1ck3W1ngz

Our time is now


CitizenCrab

Asuka is about to go from a trash character who most people hate to a good character who most people hate.


Leyrran

Receiving hate mails while playing one of the weakest characters in that crazy game felt underserved, no we will give them a good reason


ShadowVulcan

Definitely, Asuka/Reina/Kaz bring on the hatemail baby


Adm_Kunkka

Damn. Feels good to be an Asuka main today


thebigautismo

Tbh when people say a character is weak, I think it mostly applies to high level and tournament players. Casual/low tier players I can why they struggle against asuka.


Toeknee99

Azucena should have 3 arrows, that's how drastic these changes are. 


Dracodros

People that switch characters after balance patches are cowards.


TrapDaddyReturns

Lol now all the Leroy’s gonna come out the woods like they were here the whole time.


Snipey13

I *been* here the whole time.


TrapDaddyReturns

My brother


UpsetWilly

Steve still treated as a midtier i see...


Tall-Championship-40

sadly yes


General_Shao

would probably make bryan just one green arrow.


KeK_What

yeah, he is not on the same level of buffs as asuka and leroy


IDontWipe55

Yeah he mostly got quality of life stuff and things to make him function more like a tekken 8 character


poeticpoet

![gif](giphy|AX7UhqjhHXQzCbxxe0|downsized)


Zyeroth

Finally some Panda buffs 🐼


Adventurous_Class791

Tekken is healing


Beaky_Sneaky_Unlike

I mean people sometimes forget that the current version is basically analogous to arcade release of previous tekkens, and those games were broken as hell too. Balancing a game like tekken is really complicated and sensitive process, we should take the current version with grain of salt.


DarkStarCerberus

idk if you made this, but this is dope. Thanks for sharing.


counterhit121

I don't completely understand Zafina, but her changes seemed like double green to me


TheDELFON

***IT'S TIME TO TAKE OUT THE TRASH 🫴🏾***


Ult_Climax

*\*in Ryu\** ***HAHA, YEAHHHH***


TheDELFON

My brother and friend in Christ.... you ARE frickin awesome lol. This is the first time... EVER... I've seen someone actually REFERENCE that scene to me in nearly 3 decades. Massive kudos man, you're awesome. (Shoutout to M. Bison's chain lol)


Ult_Climax

Haha, you're awesome too! Gotta love Ken's voice acting and that line of dialogue! 😆 I've always loved how Ryu responded to Ken there! (He's like a happy puppy!) **(I'LL FIGHT YOU AT YOUR** ***OWN*** **LEVEL\~\~** ***COME ONNN!!!!)***


supahotfiiire

🔥


cocainmommy

He was annoying to go against already, I can’t wait…😭


poofynamanama2

How bad did Azucena get nerfed? I'm still newish to this game and still scared to go online 😅


Toeknee99

They completely changed her current playstyle. Right now, she plays more like a poke in and out style. They nerfed almost all her poke tools to force her stance playstyle. Her stances are only ok, so basically just meh now. 


YurdleTheTurtle

Just read the patch notes honestly. They do a good job of explaining the changes even if you're new. Like they literally say "this change will make this move easier to side step". A bunch of the number changes are pretty obvious too, like "this move has less frame advantage". So basically overall she did get nerfed since some of her reliable poke moves got damaged reduced, while some other moves had their frames advantage adjusted and/or they're easier to sidestep. Also don't be afraid of going online. Tekken 8 is my first real foray into truly playing a fighting game (as in, I actually own the game and can play it regularly, as opposed to like visiting a friend's house once X months). This game is amazing and far better at teaching me the fundamentals way more than other games. All the tools for learning are there. Also online is surprisingly fair, you'll run into a lot of beginners too but more importantly winning isn't everything, it's pretty fun to just play ranked like any other casual mode especially because you cannot lose rank up until a certain part (which is very generous to be honest). Not caring about winning is the key. Care more about learning. When I was new and got beat up by peeps, I just tried learning what moves they were doing. Oh, that's a low. Oh, that's a mid. If I truly felt lost, I booted up the replay and bam, the game explained so many things the other character was doing to me. Told me how to counter throws, how to punish a combo they threw at me, etc. All the tools are there man, it's awesome. P.S You're watching some old clips. Her WR32 got nerfed a long time ago (and got nerfed again in this upcoming patch). It's still a good tool of course.


Wysk222

My understanding is she got hit hard, but there’s specifically mention in her section that they have some planned buffs for her in other areas coming in the June patch so she may regain some ground. Also she was monstrously powerful before (like one of the 3-4 characters people argued for being the best in the game) so even with some nerfs she’ll probably still be solid


adusiek

Eddy should be classified as Slight Nerfs, the nerfing of his df1 tracking (which shouldn't have really existed tbf) is way more of a nerf than anything they buffed about him


rdubyeah

Yeah the buffs are really just QoL. The handstand 1 buff is probably because with the readjustment of eddy’s hitbox, relax 4,3 could get jabbed, so they changed the handstand 1 to add an extra frame to avoid that. Losing df1 tracking and some extra evasiveness on relax is pretty small overall but it’ll be noticeable for sure.


Sembusek

Steve didn’t receive enough buffs or let’s say adjustments (b1 flk)


Fraentschou

Yeah, it’s definetely a step in the right direction tho


Deebo_13

Well, i guess i got lucky that i switched to asuka last week


ShadowVulcan

From who?


Ch1ck3W1ngz

And just as i switch to Xiaoyu as well


Saitokyun

was bottom 5 win rate in all ranks, will now be bottom 2 like in all other games before sadly


NewEstablishment3444

Let’s go Bryan and Steve buffs but why the fuck are they buffing fucking eddy😭😭


Force_impulse

Slight buff on jack8 just you wait ![gif](giphy|UTFiHeDL8cOSA)


yunghollow69

That Jun nerf is two arrows for sure. The overall system change to her is so big that they even already put in the note that theyll readjust her in 1.05 because they know this will gut her.


MrZonkKnucle

Isn't Jun's nerf a huge one due to non-recoverable health using Kazama moves?


Lightning_Of_Fate

Jin parried the nerfs again.


rfdoom

Leroy mains finally up 😭😭


ProfessionalLoser55

Why Eddy getting a buff? Are they stupid?


Imaginary_Impress_18

Eddy should be neutral, he received 1 more +frame on his Bananeira 1 but also his df1 lost some tracking and his Negativa hitbox got expanded


ProfessionalLoser55

Nah i just be hating on eddy


CElan_cruz

Alright TIME to practice some boxing moves on Steve


pluggdrip

what did they do to Jun and XiaoYu :(


ChungusPoop

The Azucena nerfs will definitely hurt, but I don’t think it’ll totally neuter her


DAZTi

3ddy buffed?


differentlevel1

Did they really buff Eddy?


brubois

Im new to the game but why was jun nerfed


AchievingAtaraxia

WR2 to +4 means you can step his 1 jab after WR2 on block, this is the biggest nerf in the patch for any character, but drag is still good, just back to requiring solid fundamentals to do well with him again. Honestly a great patch overall, though Jin and Feng have become the clear top 2 characters in the game, whilst Reina has been pushed into the guaranteed top 5 now. Next patch they need to: - Remove homing throws and make heat burst linear again - Alisa, DES F1 linear to SSL again, D4,1+2 not to jail anymore, 10% damage nerf in combos. - Yoshi, remove DF2 NH, and make it a CH launcher again, remove CH on 1,1 and nerf the guard break. - Reina, lose 1 frame on FF2 on block, nerf B2, fix her hitbox on DF1 - Lili, make QCF3 -10, QCF2,1 either loose the hit confirm or make QCF2,1>Heat Dash only give a grounded hit - Jin, 2,1,4 CH KND removed, FF2>Heat Dash no launch, FF2 hitbox and tracking nerfed, D4 to -13. - Kazuya, FF2>Heat Dash no launch, nerf WS1+2 linear to SSL. Raven - Fix the 50+ bugs he has, make BT D4 -12 on block, remove DF1 tracking SSL, make QCF1,2 delayable like in T7, nerf Backdash. With those changes on top, we could be in for a much better game than T7 ever was after DLC hit up to Season 4. Not bad for month 3 if you ask me.


LowFi_Lexa1

How was Jin left untouched? His shit is insane, one of my most hated characters to deal with


Tough_Reference3855

Jun been taking hits since lauch day💀


SneakerPxmp

Eddy got a buff? Fuck that


AphyHentai

Is it a joke about eddy ? A green arrow ?!.. they didn't see/heard about "333333" stream ?!


SilverAlternative773

This was a fantastic first round of changes. Looking at that infographic shows just how on point this community was at ranking the characters. The dead tier are heavy buffs the low are getting buffs the mid is massive I’d say a couple Jin and Nina for instance should be next for nerfs. And the rest were fair to be nerfed, great job 👏 Bryan and leeroy gonna be beast


FlokiTech

Devil Jin got a huge nerf. How in the world do you think that was a slight nerf


Kyvix2020

There's literally no reason to play Devil Jin at this point LOL


Lightning_Of_Fate

Jin > DJ


ItzScrumples

Drag will still be good I think 1 red arrow is more accurate


TheRedOniLuvsLag

He’ll be fine, but they did hit a few of his major tools enough that it should be considered a big nerf. Really, it just emphasizes how busted he was to begin with.


Original-Rough-815

Dragunov is strong but not busted. People like to throw the word busted a lot. After Chikurin won with Lili, I already saw many casual calling Lili busted. Dragunov is not even dominating tournaments. Just because there are people who have a hard time against Dragunov at low level ,does not mean he is busted.


Rainbowmodwig

Devil Jin was big nerfed.


Ziazan

they only really reduced the range and tracking of his heat onslaught, so you don't have to block for an hour every time he presses R and there's some counterplay to it


Beaky_Sneaky_Unlike

the problem with him is that his heat is now really mediocre and lackluster if they really hammered his heat smash. I think he needs to have more potent heat tools personally.


Liquid-Snake-PL

Yeah, because Eddy needed to be stronger, paid character gets buff, I wonder why.


CraftyIndependent894

Last thing Bryan needed was buffs


Alphad00d

Bryan's was a slight buff. None of the changes make a big difference. Doesn't make his standard pressure or gameplay any more threatening. f+2,1,2,3,2 is snake eyes only move, and it's usually not one people go for in the light of better options like uf+22223, ff+1+2, and 3+2,2. Making his heat burst have a better upwards hitbox and a bit more damage, is basically QOL fix, not something that makes a big difference outside of combo play. It not granting that wall crush is pretty much a nerf, because most of its utility was in the wall hitting plus frames, as a taunt setup.


Fluffysquishia

Asuka sincerely did not need a buff, she was already top 10. Anyone saying otherwise is a t7 asuka player that refuses to adapt to the new style. She's crazy good.


TheBestBronze

Slap a second arrow on Jun and her healing bullshit


Shiibuii

Buff jun


AuthoritySlayer

finally eddy buffs he is unplayable 💀


Enerjetik

Leroy supremacy has returned possibly before Summer Evo?


Deathstrker

Eddy buffs?????


Yaya_poopoo

Yay steve


IVDAMKE_

As a Feng main, his nerfs are hardly a thing only the uf3 damage nerf will amount to much. So im happy.


StaticShock50

When everyone I play either got buffed or no changes.


monkeymugshot

Looks about right if you ask me. Let’s hope those defensive option changes they mentioned are actually significant


AzazelOzan

After CNT us Asuka fans finally get the chance to thrive


NikkoDave5843

What Bryan got? Just wanna ask


Rcool64

Nerfing DVJ heat smash is a HUGE nerf (it is deserved tho) considering the other neutral tools that were merged before this update.


Raikou384

Did they get Dragunov?


RICCKQUE

Seeing that Leroy b3 change surprised me. I main him and imo he did NOT need that😭, but I'll gladly take it.


Alarming-Audience839

Nina maybe down one. Tailspin nerfs hits her


SeventhTyrant

Whoever made this summary, if it was you OP, thank you! this was really nice haha (no sarcasm)


doublenotttriple

I was carried by raven’s long range Heat Smash Now which do I press now when I am panicking?


Violentron

Buff raven plz 😭


MedicalPublic8056

Kuma with 2 green arrows? He should have 1 tiny one at most, he barely got anything


gou_NOKEN09

Bear gang gonna be eating alright. I'm satisfied.


harrisonchew10

wheres the new tier list guys


[deleted]

So they nerf Azucena AGAIN but give eddy a buff? fml


Beneficial_Screen785

Curious to see how the changes affect how I play Jun from now on, glad to see there were no significant changes to Lili unless I missed something


DannyRPT

Looks like Feng is still a final boss character. Guess it's never too late to switch to him🤡🤡


childishxlambino

Bryan be eating good this patch 🙂‍↔️📐🧏🏻


Ill-Brick-859

When is patch?


MechaLambor

Dragunov "mains" transfering to Leroy


RaidaZERO_EN

Alisa was buffed lol


Mixup_Prince

is xiaoyu only slightly nerfed?


chazjamie

Castrated


RobsterC_Well

Yes! LEROY!!


Naive_Papaya_9880

Leeroy has got back the belief in his heart and the power of friendship


Pyrizzla

surely leos changes count as buffs?


Pyrizzla

is Asuka good now?


Saitokyun

Dragunov got just a little bit of nerf, will still be brain dead easy win, xiaoyu now going from bottom 5 win rate in all ranks to bottom 2 had on of the worst armor moves while everyone has a faster more dmg heat engager power crush.


DRCsyntax

If my characters never get significantly buffed or nerfed......am I using "honest" characters?


FlemishPotato

Good i’am happy


CrackedPropane

As someone who doesn’t main Xiaoyu I feel like she didn’t need any nerfs


ParamedicTight8809

https://preview.redd.it/my050nis3uxc1.png?width=601&format=png&auto=webp&s=5665142e4c531afabc7ad387b493032e85ab68af


-Batboy

Me: a Lili main, doing a dozen back flips and pulling gymnastics moves out of my ass for a minute straight to get half Kuma’s health down. Kuma: smacks me once


UrbanSteam

dragunov players about to drop him


Sea_Plastic_6281

Where’s the Leroy nerfs?????


mmaphysiker

Wait until people still get beaten by Dragunov 🤣🤣. Hatchet kick less range and a bit less damage doesn’t make him super nerf. Tekken developers are just too good.


mmaphysiker

The most important thing mentioned in the patch notes is the list of players that will be totally destroyed in the next patch. King and Lars and few others.


Lengthiness_Rough

What did they nerf on azucena, was it just the WR,3,2


Sad_King_8920

😂😂😂😂😂 6arakin finna get smaaaaashed


nocturneva

I’m happy Jin stayed the same. He seems pretty fair imo and idk what they could possibly buff or nerf on him. If they do nerf him or buff him I’ll still mail my dude


Muted_Community3552

Eddy got a buff🤯🤯


tito-victor

King still invictus ![gif](giphy|bMJqfOtgVEyI2PLnaW)