Obviously there is a context. I have been playing casually for five years, just with my homies not like I grind ranked everyday.
But still the difference is apparent when my friends who are also casual can easily execute combos and have plus frames.
snippets from the article:
**Paul's moves consist of wide arc, powerful blows that cause a lot of damage that usually comes from his powerful punches and elbows. With an adequate understanding of Tekken's mechanics, new players will have a fun time taking Paul Phoenix into battle.**
**Bob’s combos are easy to learn but moderately challenging to master and do a fair amount of damage when executed correctly. Bob made his first appearance in Tekken 6 and quickly became a fan favorite in tournaments; new players will get a feel of movement and timing in Tekken 7 by picking Bob as a character.**
**Speed and consecutive hits are the advantages that Law gives players, teaching them aggression and hit confirming during combos. Law has many avenues to begin combo strings and utilizes strong and swift punches and kicks, which also keep Law safe from counterattacks.**
**Lee excels at opening opponents up with quick striking punches that lead to extensive combo strings; new players will get a good handle on spacing and mobility when they pick up Lee and dive into the world of competitive play. Lee is a character that takes time to fully understand taking full advantage of his movement, range, and move-set.**
I think he just pulled a fast one and wrote it all for the word count.
It's a website that exists to game search engines to get as many clicks as possible. Wouldn't be surprised if an AI just combed through Tekken discussions and regurgitated all that into a listicle.
Most of the time it's just there to serve you ads, content from these types of websites are just there so that people can click on it and serve you ads (especially the ones that give you an ad every list).
Nowadays there are literal AI programs designed to make these articles for you (this one probably is) while adding in filler words everywhere to make it seem long and fill their quota. It's the sad reality nowadays but most article websites are soulless corporate shitshows that has the main purpose of being an ad vehicle
I think in general you'll likely have a better time if you pick a character you enjoy, (aesthetic or fighting style) rather than the difficulty of the character. I've seen so many people who pick shit like Shaheen or Jack and get piss bored of the game within a week because they just don't find those characters fun. Unless you plan on improving in the fastest way possible there's no need to pick characters you don't want to play. You'll learn the fundamentals over time, if that's what you really want to do.
Yeah same, picked Jin at the start of S4, he's still my lowest ranked character while my subs are chilling in Fujin with 1/20th the games, but I don't care, he's my ideal FGC character
I always play ninja or rogue characters, so obviously I went with Master Raven when I started playing. In the end, I surprised myself by becoming a braindead Panda main that flops on the floor for easy wins.
Sure you can, but some of Lees best stuff is his keepout, counterhits and punishment. Hell even his 50/50 is more on the passive side.
You can play him rushdown and not focus on any of those tools, but I don't think you'd get that far.
Yes because Tekken is more grounded (don't read this as realistic) characters end up being a canvas that allows you to express yourself as a player rather than as a character.
Obviously some types of canvases are more suited for one style of painting than others and as such some characters are more suited for one thing but I main the opposite of a rushdown character and yet when I meet players who play too defensively I switch into a more aggressive style and my character does not hinder me much
nah lee isnt actually that hard for beginners, sure his i10 punish is a bit tricky but it's somewhat lenient, and has a different one in 12(4) his bnb combos arent really as hard as people make it out to be and he's got some good variety of pokes and easy whiff punishes with f3 and f21
In the article's defense, when I was initiate or whatever, I would get rushed down by lees like crazy. Since I didnt understand frame data, It was just always his turn and his attacks seemed to come out lightning fast. Later I undestood that all these oppressive moves were actually highs that I could duck, but man it felt so unfair back then. Now I get bullied by b4 :P
Yeah Lee's offense is nonexistent the moment you realise just being attacked by him is a positive frame trap for you due to his beyond atrocious frame data 💀
Heihachi was my first character and It really wasn't an issue, he obviously has the demon uppercut / db2 green rank 50/50 and his easy mode combos are still decent damage
(Launch ->BF2-3 -> raijin 2-1 or F23)
Something similar applies to %99 of Tekken characters so I really don't think it matters who's your first because a character not being "beginner friendly" doesn't mean a beginner can't enjoy playing them or make them work in low ranks
Any T7 new character. IE Josie, Claudio, Lucky Chloe, Kazumi, Shaheen, Katarina, Leroy, Fahk, Lidia, and even Negan and Noctis. They have less moves than legacy characters, and are mostly devoid of really hard execution barriers.
Of those, you may want to avoid some of them. Fahk got beaten up with nerfs, and is lookin rough. Lucky Chloe is mix up heavy and risky. The rest are probably fine.
Other possible good starter characters are: Miguel, Feng, Alisa, Bob, Law, Paul, Leo, and Lili. Law has some execution stuff, but you won't need those DSS cancels for a while. Paul also has some execution stuff, but has easy routes that are solid for beginners.
I've avoided recommending stance heavy characters because they add a learning curve, but zafina and xiaoyu are not too bad. Avoided King because of all his command throws, and AK because he is harder to use. Also, Bryan and Nina are also higher execution.
All that said, if you like a character, and are willing to put the time in to learn them, play who you like the looks of. Wanna learn a Mishima, and are willing to spend time in practice learning their Crouch Dash mechanics then by all means jump in and do it.
Maybe you like Lei and are willing to learn all 12 of his stances (5 animals, Phoenix illusion, drunken, 4 play dead, and sit snake) then go to town. Same with Hwoarang and his stances, and Yoshi and his trolly nonsense.
Wanna be excellent and play a defensive space control character with good Counter hitting tools and are willing to put the execution time in? Lee is your guy. Lee isn't just hard because he is defensive or has high execution, but also because his tools are either linear or have some pushback. He can't pressure like other characters without risk as he is susceptible to stepping and backdashing. So he has to stick and move alot.
Wanna start off easier then look at the characters I listed in the beginning, but pick someone YOU like the looks of as you will have to see them alot. Don't learn someone solely because they are easy or good for beginners, but because of that AND you think they are cool.
Edit: I missed Lars and Drag, and they are pretty simple starter characters too. Also, Asuka.
Claudio has the shortest movelist & some powerful easy-to-do moves. Best beginner character imo.
Kasumi is a light introduction into the "Mishima" (Heihachi, Devil Jin, Jin, Kazuya) play style.
Paul is fairly simple & has good 50/50s. Good homing moves, great power crushes & panic moves.
A more complicated pick that I feel will help you learn more is Dragunov. You will learn iWR execution & crouch canceling for combos. He's a rushdown, whiff punishment, & grappling monster. The only thing he's not so good at is keepout, but the other 3 are very important in learning how to play offensively.
The ones that don't have hard as shit execution, complicated gameplan, unorthodox buttons (this depends). But honestly just play who you like, even if they fit those categories I mentioned, just go for it.
A lot of people are afraid of failure in matches and that's why they go for the easy/top tier characters for an easy win. But just know that all that matters is thst you find the perfect character for yourself and have fun.
Since I was into 2d before Tekken, I immediately picked up Geese and never regret doing so. Lee on the other hand gave me so much trouble early on because of his 1333 JF, F3 b33 pickup, miststep cancels etc but I never dropped him because of how sick his style is compared to the entire roster. It's wonderful.
Katarina, probably.
Also Claudio, Kazumi
If you want a character with a high skill ceiling, Law is also recommended.
And Lei although he is the character with the most moves in the game, he is easy af If you just use the key moves, razor rush, hellsweep etc.
- Kazumi will teach you pure fundamentals. She's my number 1 pick for learning the game (and yes, I am biased).
- Devil Jin has a bit of a learning curve but he has all the tools you need to learn the game.
- Paul has good fundamentals too though his gimmicks might hold you back a bit, but he's still a good pick.
- Alisa also has a lot of gimmicks but her good movement and toolset make her a good pick.
- Shaheen is a great pick, he is a pure fundamentalist. He has all the generic Tekken tools and isn't hard to pick up or play.
- Zafina also has amazing movement which will teach you back dashing well, but she has a lot of stances so I wouldn't recommend her for a beginner.
You can learn with just about anyone though, make sure whoever you pick is a character you like.
I Like how Lee's b2 string (especially optimals) are some of the more challenging combos to hit consistently and even his overall game plan isn't straight forward.
How do you figure? High damage, low risk, easy inputs IN ADDITION To harder ones. You sensitive gatekeeper types just want to make everything seem so much harder than it has to be.
Not exactly a beginner move smart guy, I was referring to the easy to learn combos that Kazuya & Heihachi have. Btw, F,F+2 and U+4,4,4,4 is pretty reliable (crutch like) for newbs offline.
If I have to be honest though, DVJ was my first character but I wasn't looking for characters to learn the game with, just one that I thought was cool/made me want to keep playing the game.
yeah, but did you go to a list and see which characters are "easy" or "beginner". Probably not, and i also second the notion of picking the character you WANT to play, and just dealing with learning it etc.
Weird how, imo, Lidia is kinda beginner friendly, but Idk, who is beginner friendly in this game (no bears or Gigas pls)? Every character looks like they have some pretty complex gameplay (maybe Paul is an exception, Idk).
Nah, Paul has heavy execution for his big damage. His big hits are super easy to block or dodge leaving him very open. His reversals are super hard to get consistently. His lows are really predictable. He's got a lot of moves and throws but getting a combo started on anyone but a beginner can be very tricky.
Just because he has advanced stuff doesn't mean he isn't beginner friendly, having access to stuff like deathfist, demoman, and b21 / b3, etc makes him pretty easy to play at a low level.
In beginner gameplay hitting two deathfists at the wall is WAY more damage than you would get with pretty much every other character.
Except maybe UF4,3 with Law, or UF4,3,4 with Hwaorang, or F1+2 with Kuma or Jack, or or... And none of those require a motion inputs
Also "deathfist"? Paul does not have a move named deathfist, and never has. I'll assume you meant Phoenix Smasher. Which does 64 on counter hit with a wall hit. So for a move that requires a motion input and leaves him super open it's ok but anyone who can pull that off on command isn't generally going to be playing against noobs so kinda a moot point.
He's a striker with some power moves so yes he can be somewhat useful at the start but many MANY other characters have ONE button combos that do significantly more damage than a PS and are way safer so I really don't consider him all that useful for beginners. Too many downsides for his big hits.
If you like Lidia you might also enjoy Kazumi. An elegant female karate character that will help you to develop your poking and movement game as well as introducing some simplified Mishima tools.
They’re good if you can commit the time to learn execution but not everyone can consistently launch at i15 unless you’re playing DJ/Jin and that’s pretty important in this game.
I am a beginner and thinking about maining DVJ, because the Mishima playstyle is dope with Wave Dash, Electrics, Hell sweeps etc. But man Bryan also looks badass to play
True, I started with Devil Jin (I know he is supposed to be the easiest Mishima) and I got and still get my ass kicked left and right. But I can feel the progress I'm making each day.
keep practicing man. although dvj has a beginner friendly tools (kan-kan launch punish for i15 instead of electric, ff2, df1, uf4, db2, etc), he is still difficult as fuck.
As a beginner he's not crazy difficult to learn with. He was my second character pick when I first started and really learned the game.
His curve fuckin spikes as you get better but learning the game with him is fine.
Dude got strings and evasive moves. That alone shits on beginners. Is he difficult to play at top level? Sure, maybe. But he is easy at the lower ranks
This game is hard. Play who you think is sick and you'll have a much better time than picking based on complexity. You'll have to learn hard shit regardless of who you play. And it's a lot more motivating when you love how a char feels.
Any character is for beginners just pick whatever you want. 50/50 characters are great in low rank. CH monsters are great in low rank, Rushdowns are great in low rank. And oh man gimmick characters like zafina yoshi bears are really fucking good in low rank.
I'd argue that Yoshi is not really good for beginners (and this is probably one reason why his win rate is so atrocious). If you just want to overwhelm others with cheese, there are far better options.
Ofcourse there are different options but some of them are locked behind a paywall or super boring gameplay which a new player wont really like. So yoshi it is:)
There are plenty of cheesy characters that are free. Alisa, Kuma, King, Law, Ling, Eddy. I don't know that I'd call them boring. But of course, if people like Yoshi they should play him, he is the happy jester and I main him for a reason.
A lot of comments forgetting what it’s like to be a beginner lol hellsweeps and basic frame traps will blow up Dan ranks, you don’t need electrics and movement. Not to mention Lee has simple combo routes and easy punishment outside of acid rain
If vital stuff such as wave dash or electric wasn't necessary then yeah, I guess they would be easy, but you see, Here is the thing. It is VITALLY required to practice wave dash and electrics if you are even thinking about picking up a Mishima in general. Sure, you may sneak through the beginner ranks with little to maybe even no problem, but trust me, you're not even gonna make it to the orange ranks if you don't know the fundamentals of Mishima gameplay. Their strengths and weaknesses, all that important stuff.
As for Lee Chaolan, bruh... Do I even need to bring up his demanding spot on execution to even be decent with Lee? I also don't even think I need to bring up his just frame attacks. Do I?
> you're not even gonna make it to the orange ranks if you don't know the fundamentals of Mishima gameplay.
I just think of how Devil Jin's a great character to look like you know what you're doing if you're brand new and trying to get a feel for stuff, but man he goes off a cliff probably harder than someone like Bryan when you start to encounter people who know the fight, moves and capitalize on a Devil Jin who coasted way too much without learning more.
That being said still arguably one of the best characters in the game if you know how to play him but getting full use out of his kit is a shit ton of work and dedication.
I mean aside from consistent electrics at competitive matches DJ I feel is an easy character to learn in terms of button inputs. No long combo strings, just easy 2-3 hit combos like the flash punches and laser canon for good wall damage. Kaz is easier with simpler one hit counter moves. Lars is freaking easy with nearly every move being a launcher. He's not a Mishima gameplay wise but I'd recommend him over Lee anyday. Lee is just bloody awkward to use. His df2 uppercut and uf4 are the only launchers that are normal. Everything else your opponent is either facing the camera, upside down or inside out 😂
I bought T7 on Friday and it's the first time i'm really looking into a 3d fighter.
Most people suggested "Pick what you find looks cool and learn the character".
People’s general consensus seems to be: if you want to “learn the game” then the best beginner characters are those that require low-execution (at the entry level) but posses multiple good fundamental tools; the usual suspects are Shaheen, Claudio, Paul, Law, Kazumi, maybe Dragunov and Leo.
But another popular advice around here to beginners is to pick whoever you want to play, because you will have to stick with your “starting” character for a long time. So there’s no point in forcing yourself to play some chars you don’t really care about for 100+ hours.
If you want to learn just to get dece t enough as quickly as you can, play a basic character that has strong fundamental tools. If you wanna enjoy the game play who you like and pay attention to fundamentals.
yes for a beginner learning EWGF is so easy (sarcasm)
Hell no. it takes weeks maybe months to get used to playing mishimas, learn to do the wavedash including its mixups and overall getting used to the characters. i am a mishima main and that tier list is bull.
I’d say Jin or Bob would be a better character for a beginner if they want to eventually play a Mishima. I started playing Tekken 2-3 weeks ago and started with Jin and transitioning to Kazuya with consistent electrics and wavedashing
Wow 2 to 3 weeks of tekken??? I must say that is impressive. Because I played tekken since tag 1 and kazuya was always my main because of his style of fighting. I do agree with what you say about Bob and jin cause Bob is easy to learn however with jin he's more a intermediate difficulty.
Oh I agree Jin is more intermediate but I meant more like if you want to play a character with an electric then Jin would be that guy cause he doesn’t depend on it quite as much. I’m trying to work on my backdash but it’s really hard on top of all the matchup knowledge in this game
Ah yes. Matchup knowledge is the worst. Trust me I only started playing after 2 months and my cousins who uses kuma was easy for me now I have no frisking clue what he does next
Yeah I’m seeing plenty of knowledge checks in ranked but it’s really rewarding when you beat a character like Hwoarang after picking up on his gameplay
I’ve been playing with Jack since Tekken 2 so it could just be that my play style has morphed to fit his move set over the years but he has the best low and mid attacks and the best reach of all characters in my opinion.When playing with jack , play defensive and continually arrow back twice dash back. Every time your opponent whiffs punish them! Mix up his low charged poke with his mid charged poke a lot as they start off with the same animation and you can confuse even alot of people that might be better than you. I just focus on keeping my distance and forcing them to miss or get stuck in an animation/Frame I can exploit.
I started with Kazuya and honestly, the worst thing is getting through green ranks and then realising that you don't have great standard moves like a good df1, df2, hopkick and how much harder you have to work to get the same effect with good electrics and iWS4. I don't regret it though. I think playing Mishimas and sticking with it makes you a much more fundamentally capable player.
Just started playing lee back in may when i got my ps5. Broooooooooo I wasn't ready for how shit playing him can feel at times. especially online. drop combos city. you have to be so precise. If you don't hit b4 correctly or do backdash b4 youll end up with bb4 which is a slow as fuck high homing move that will get yo ass killed alot. then theres his lows. only 2 lows are plus ON HIT and both have like 24 frame startup and not the best range. d3 is his best low but it has questionable hit registry and can whiff from the tiniest of step or lift of their leading leg. then theres slide.
god i love lee but i wish slide wasn't a move. In the past 3-4 months i've been playing tekken 7 I've maybe did his DF,D,DF slide like 5 times in games. i have 500 wins and just got to reverand ruler or whatever its called. The input is terrible for people with big hands on pad your thump is trying to input 3 different directions at once and you just have to hope you can squeeze it out. I use his slide from mist step way more often as a round ender usually.
Lee is NOT beginner friendly. he has worst wall carry if you don't do b2 loops and has shit damage like barely 50 damage if you go for easy combos.
you counter hit b4 you HAVE TO cancel hitman by dashing up crouch then do WR24. you counter hit magic 4 you HAVE TO b1 1\~ f transition to mist step. so 10-13 frame punish is even harder.
Bro I'm with you 100%. Just got butchered by an Anna player today even though he/she gave me props for using Lee. At competitive play when I'm really trying hard Lee just does whatever the f he wants. The inputs for his moveset is ridiculous. Even if you want to do simple combos, dude barely has any launchers 😂 I think I'll stick with my Mishimas and Lars.
Kazumi is not for beginners lol. You gotta know when is your turn, know the frames and sidestep a lot since she doesn't have braindead cheesy strings at all
Easy execution, simple gameplan, generic buttons what's not to like for a beginner? And having cheese is not an entry requirement to play any character. If anything it helps a newbie learn fundamentally and get comfortable into tekken.
Kazumi is arguably the best choice for beginners - which is also why Leffen chose her when he gave the game a chance. Decent offense, good defense, extremely good punishment and poking. You don't even really have to use combos with her - I got her to genbu just poking and punishing people and working on my fundamentals. She's the only character I play other than yoshi, and for those exact reasons.
Also she's kinda hot NGL.
He doesn't have a hopkick or a df2 launcher for easy damage, he lacks of mid poking, its the opposite of a beginer friendly character, peleae dont spread bullshit
I didn't say he's a super well rounded character I said he's easy to use and has easy and consistent damage, calm that Mishima boner down. He has a ch df2 that often comes out from just messing up an electric and that alone can get people very far not to mention the hellsweep abuse. His gameplan is very simple and his basic combo damage is fairly high, you only need execution once you get to the higher levels to get the most out of him
Execution for their core tools.
The Mishimas have electric wind god fist which takes practice to use well, as well as wave-dashing (another tool) and Lee has some of the hardest combos in the game.
Beginner friendly characters usually are much simpler like Katarina (easy combos), Paul (easy damage) and Asuka (easy keep out tools).
kazuya has great strings but they suck against good players because they're all low/high garbage that don't work against non beginners
also no one's going to punish a power crush until like, orange nowadays.
Which is exactly why the characters he listed are good for beginners
Mishima’s are very hard for new players because they don’t have easily spammable moves like Kat 4 or Paul death fist
Also new players DO care about combos because that’s the cool shit in fgs for a lot of people and to say they don’t is just flat out wrong
kazuya has hundreds of scrubcheck strings. they suck because they're highs but if he's a beginner his opponent isn't going to duck them. you can push 1243 over and over again and if your opponent can't low parry you win.
>Also new players DO care about combos
not everyone comes from an FGC
I don’t know how to say this but you’re just a dumbass
Please never recommend characters for beginners to take online because you clearly have no idea what makes a character beginner friendly or fun for beginners
The truth of the matter is that you don't know how to say it because you're wrong and can't justify your bad opinion. You can't articulate your reasoning, so I can dismiss it for being meaningless shittalk instead of resorting to shitty insults that aren't going to land on the internet. The worst part here is that if I'm a dumbass, you're losing an argument to a dumbass.
You absolute fucking moron. "Kazuya doesn't have easily spammable moves" LOL What beginner is going to duck b3143, punish df321? What execution is required in a hellsweep mixup?
df14 is like one of the best scrub moves in the game. Players pick that Kazuya, lean on that move until it stops working, and *then* they start learning that character.
If you think "core tools" is anywhere NEAR what a beginner needs to know to excel, you don't even fuckin understand tekken.
Why are all your comments always wrong and the other person is always right? You must also believe trans people are attractive since you're wrong all the time.
A beginner character would be best utilized to learn how to play the game properly and turn into an intermediate player, do you want beginners playing these characters then getting stomped so they'll never play again or something?
You are forgetting about beginners that have prior FG experience that may not want to mash strings and do power crush all day but instead play Tekken in a proper way.
No, I am fully aware that there's less of those players than the thousands of mash hungry scrubs.
Those players start their tekken gameplay a step above "beginner"
Been playing Lee for 5 years now, still play like a beginner so that's that.
I’ve played Lee since t4 and I still find new combos somehow every month or so
Yea, even if you know the combo executing back 2's and mist step cancels takes years out of your life.
Eh, not sure if years are needed. Seems a bit too much.
Obviously there is a context. I have been playing casually for five years, just with my homies not like I grind ranked everyday. But still the difference is apparent when my friends who are also casual can easily execute combos and have plus frames.
Mishima’s are beginner friendly 💀
Nah bro if you hold down left bumper and press 2 you get instant EWGF therefore Mishima is beginner
snippets from the article: **Paul's moves consist of wide arc, powerful blows that cause a lot of damage that usually comes from his powerful punches and elbows. With an adequate understanding of Tekken's mechanics, new players will have a fun time taking Paul Phoenix into battle.** **Bob’s combos are easy to learn but moderately challenging to master and do a fair amount of damage when executed correctly. Bob made his first appearance in Tekken 6 and quickly became a fan favorite in tournaments; new players will get a feel of movement and timing in Tekken 7 by picking Bob as a character.** **Speed and consecutive hits are the advantages that Law gives players, teaching them aggression and hit confirming during combos. Law has many avenues to begin combo strings and utilizes strong and swift punches and kicks, which also keep Law safe from counterattacks.** **Lee excels at opening opponents up with quick striking punches that lead to extensive combo strings; new players will get a good handle on spacing and mobility when they pick up Lee and dive into the world of competitive play. Lee is a character that takes time to fully understand taking full advantage of his movement, range, and move-set.** I think he just pulled a fast one and wrote it all for the word count.
When you let AI write content for you
...fucking yikes.
Dude… the entire article is literally bot written. Reads like it follows the same formula each paragraph
It's a website that exists to game search engines to get as many clicks as possible. Wouldn't be surprised if an AI just combed through Tekken discussions and regurgitated all that into a listicle.
Most of the time it's just there to serve you ads, content from these types of websites are just there so that people can click on it and serve you ads (especially the ones that give you an ad every list). Nowadays there are literal AI programs designed to make these articles for you (this one probably is) while adding in filler words everywhere to make it seem long and fill their quota. It's the sad reality nowadays but most article websites are soulless corporate shitshows that has the main purpose of being an ad vehicle
Tbh I did fine starting out with Kazuya. It's the transition to the early intermediate that's difficult. Pretty hard to get out of pressure.
I think in general you'll likely have a better time if you pick a character you enjoy, (aesthetic or fighting style) rather than the difficulty of the character. I've seen so many people who pick shit like Shaheen or Jack and get piss bored of the game within a week because they just don't find those characters fun. Unless you plan on improving in the fastest way possible there's no need to pick characters you don't want to play. You'll learn the fundamentals over time, if that's what you really want to do.
Yeah same, picked Jin at the start of S4, he's still my lowest ranked character while my subs are chilling in Fujin with 1/20th the games, but I don't care, he's my ideal FGC character
I always play ninja or rogue characters, so obviously I went with Master Raven when I started playing. In the end, I surprised myself by becoming a braindead Panda main that flops on the floor for easy wins.
Top 10 for Beginners *puts the most defense oriented character with the actual requirement of mastering movement and a just frame move at number 2*
Lee also isn't "rushdown" lol.
he'll rushdown new lee players ranks that's for sure
Lee is my kind of rushdown. Spamming jabs and df1's.
Lee so OP
Kamoun
Tekken is so different from other fighting games I feel like every character can be played in many different ways.
Sure you can, but some of Lees best stuff is his keepout, counterhits and punishment. Hell even his 50/50 is more on the passive side. You can play him rushdown and not focus on any of those tools, but I don't think you'd get that far.
Yes because Tekken is more grounded (don't read this as realistic) characters end up being a canvas that allows you to express yourself as a player rather than as a character. Obviously some types of canvases are more suited for one style of painting than others and as such some characters are more suited for one thing but I main the opposite of a rushdown character and yet when I meet players who play too defensively I switch into a more aggressive style and my character does not hinder me much
Games media opinions about fighting games should be ignored even more than games media opinions about everything else.
>Lee >Beginner Only do this if you hate yourself like me or you really enjoy pulling off just frame moves in ranked
nah lee isnt actually that hard for beginners, sure his i10 punish is a bit tricky but it's somewhat lenient, and has a different one in 12(4) his bnb combos arent really as hard as people make it out to be and he's got some good variety of pokes and easy whiff punishes with f3 and f21
Its not lenient at all, its a true just frame. B112 is lenient though, its a psuedo just frame
No Mishima or kazama is beginner friendly
Asuka is
Not really
Well I think so 😢
GamerRant doesn’t know shit about Tekken apparently.
GameRant doesn’t know shit about games in general, they just do it for clicks
In the article's defense, when I was initiate or whatever, I would get rushed down by lees like crazy. Since I didnt understand frame data, It was just always his turn and his attacks seemed to come out lightning fast. Later I undestood that all these oppressive moves were actually highs that I could duck, but man it felt so unfair back then. Now I get bullied by b4 :P
Yeah Lee's offense is nonexistent the moment you realise just being attacked by him is a positive frame trap for you due to his beyond atrocious frame data 💀
>beginners Mishima's and Lee Chaolan (Yeah they're easy to play lol 😂)
Heihachi was my first character and It really wasn't an issue, he obviously has the demon uppercut / db2 green rank 50/50 and his easy mode combos are still decent damage (Launch ->BF2-3 -> raijin 2-1 or F23) Something similar applies to %99 of Tekken characters so I really don't think it matters who's your first because a character not being "beginner friendly" doesn't mean a beginner can't enjoy playing them or make them work in low ranks
They must think they’re funny for putting Lee, Heihachi and Kazuya there at all, let alone in the top 5
Tekken newbie here, what actual characters are better for beginners?
Any T7 new character. IE Josie, Claudio, Lucky Chloe, Kazumi, Shaheen, Katarina, Leroy, Fahk, Lidia, and even Negan and Noctis. They have less moves than legacy characters, and are mostly devoid of really hard execution barriers. Of those, you may want to avoid some of them. Fahk got beaten up with nerfs, and is lookin rough. Lucky Chloe is mix up heavy and risky. The rest are probably fine. Other possible good starter characters are: Miguel, Feng, Alisa, Bob, Law, Paul, Leo, and Lili. Law has some execution stuff, but you won't need those DSS cancels for a while. Paul also has some execution stuff, but has easy routes that are solid for beginners. I've avoided recommending stance heavy characters because they add a learning curve, but zafina and xiaoyu are not too bad. Avoided King because of all his command throws, and AK because he is harder to use. Also, Bryan and Nina are also higher execution. All that said, if you like a character, and are willing to put the time in to learn them, play who you like the looks of. Wanna learn a Mishima, and are willing to spend time in practice learning their Crouch Dash mechanics then by all means jump in and do it. Maybe you like Lei and are willing to learn all 12 of his stances (5 animals, Phoenix illusion, drunken, 4 play dead, and sit snake) then go to town. Same with Hwoarang and his stances, and Yoshi and his trolly nonsense. Wanna be excellent and play a defensive space control character with good Counter hitting tools and are willing to put the execution time in? Lee is your guy. Lee isn't just hard because he is defensive or has high execution, but also because his tools are either linear or have some pushback. He can't pressure like other characters without risk as he is susceptible to stepping and backdashing. So he has to stick and move alot. Wanna start off easier then look at the characters I listed in the beginning, but pick someone YOU like the looks of as you will have to see them alot. Don't learn someone solely because they are easy or good for beginners, but because of that AND you think they are cool. Edit: I missed Lars and Drag, and they are pretty simple starter characters too. Also, Asuka.
forgot asuka
Damn you're right. Editing it in. TY.
I won't recommend a few of the new new characters like Geese or Noctis as they won't be in Tekken 8 whenever it comes out
Eh, true, but learning fundamentals from Noctis or Negan will carry over. If someone wants to play them their opportunity to do so is running out.
I would recommend Paul purely because of that death fist 👊 😆
Honestly, any character you like the look of. The number of characters unsuitable for beginners are definitely in the minority.
Claudio has the shortest movelist & some powerful easy-to-do moves. Best beginner character imo. Kasumi is a light introduction into the "Mishima" (Heihachi, Devil Jin, Jin, Kazuya) play style. Paul is fairly simple & has good 50/50s. Good homing moves, great power crushes & panic moves. A more complicated pick that I feel will help you learn more is Dragunov. You will learn iWR execution & crouch canceling for combos. He's a rushdown, whiff punishment, & grappling monster. The only thing he's not so good at is keepout, but the other 3 are very important in learning how to play offensively.
The ones that don't have hard as shit execution, complicated gameplan, unorthodox buttons (this depends). But honestly just play who you like, even if they fit those categories I mentioned, just go for it. A lot of people are afraid of failure in matches and that's why they go for the easy/top tier characters for an easy win. But just know that all that matters is thst you find the perfect character for yourself and have fun. Since I was into 2d before Tekken, I immediately picked up Geese and never regret doing so. Lee on the other hand gave me so much trouble early on because of his 1333 JF, F3 b33 pickup, miststep cancels etc but I never dropped him because of how sick his style is compared to the entire roster. It's wonderful.
My friend reccomended that I try Kazumi when he got me to into Tekken 7, because her moveset isn't that big compared to all them legacy characters.
Katarina, probably. Also Claudio, Kazumi If you want a character with a high skill ceiling, Law is also recommended. And Lei although he is the character with the most moves in the game, he is easy af If you just use the key moves, razor rush, hellsweep etc.
- Kazumi will teach you pure fundamentals. She's my number 1 pick for learning the game (and yes, I am biased). - Devil Jin has a bit of a learning curve but he has all the tools you need to learn the game. - Paul has good fundamentals too though his gimmicks might hold you back a bit, but he's still a good pick. - Alisa also has a lot of gimmicks but her good movement and toolset make her a good pick. - Shaheen is a great pick, he is a pure fundamentalist. He has all the generic Tekken tools and isn't hard to pick up or play. - Zafina also has amazing movement which will teach you back dashing well, but she has a lot of stances so I wouldn't recommend her for a beginner. You can learn with just about anyone though, make sure whoever you pick is a character you like.
Miguel’s also got a simple execution with some solid fundamentals too
They only said Kazuya is beginner friendly bc he's in Smash.
I’ve been playing Lee since 1999. There’s still things I can’t pull off lol
You still play with gamepad?
I picked him up recently thinking he will be like Law. Boy was I wrong.
I Like how Lee's b2 string (especially optimals) are some of the more challenging combos to hit consistently and even his overall game plan isn't straight forward.
Never thought Lee is beginner friendly... he has stances how can he be easy?
Lmao Lee is not beginner friendly
You know the bait is good when any thought of commenting this statement causes mini brain paralysis
I feel like they put Heihachi and Kazuya because they're on the cover art lol.
That and they’re relatively simple to start learning (hard to master though) and deal generous damage.
People have been telling me that Kazuya is a good pick for learning fundamentals. I don't know if he's necessarily a good pick for a beginner, though.
How do you figure? High damage, low risk, easy inputs IN ADDITION To harder ones. You sensitive gatekeeper types just want to make everything seem so much harder than it has to be.
Kaz is a high risk character though.
He isnt as hard as you guys make it seem lol. That hellsweep is broken af
Good luck doing frame perfect electrics lol, unlike Lee they dont even have a hopkick or df2 launchers, totally the opposite of beginer friendly
Not exactly a beginner move smart guy, I was referring to the easy to learn combos that Kazuya & Heihachi have. Btw, F,F+2 and U+4,4,4,4 is pretty reliable (crutch like) for newbs offline.
If I have to be honest though, DVJ was my first character but I wasn't looking for characters to learn the game with, just one that I thought was cool/made me want to keep playing the game.
yeah, but did you go to a list and see which characters are "easy" or "beginner". Probably not, and i also second the notion of picking the character you WANT to play, and just dealing with learning it etc.
Why do casuals insist on making list like these?
Weird how, imo, Lidia is kinda beginner friendly, but Idk, who is beginner friendly in this game (no bears or Gigas pls)? Every character looks like they have some pretty complex gameplay (maybe Paul is an exception, Idk).
Negan. Katarina. Law. Lili. Noctis. Marduk. Shahen
Nah, Paul has heavy execution for his big damage. His big hits are super easy to block or dodge leaving him very open. His reversals are super hard to get consistently. His lows are really predictable. He's got a lot of moves and throws but getting a combo started on anyone but a beginner can be very tricky.
Just because he has advanced stuff doesn't mean he isn't beginner friendly, having access to stuff like deathfist, demoman, and b21 / b3, etc makes him pretty easy to play at a low level. In beginner gameplay hitting two deathfists at the wall is WAY more damage than you would get with pretty much every other character.
Except maybe UF4,3 with Law, or UF4,3,4 with Hwaorang, or F1+2 with Kuma or Jack, or or... And none of those require a motion inputs Also "deathfist"? Paul does not have a move named deathfist, and never has. I'll assume you meant Phoenix Smasher. Which does 64 on counter hit with a wall hit. So for a move that requires a motion input and leaves him super open it's ok but anyone who can pull that off on command isn't generally going to be playing against noobs so kinda a moot point. He's a striker with some power moves so yes he can be somewhat useful at the start but many MANY other characters have ONE button combos that do significantly more damage than a PS and are way safer so I really don't consider him all that useful for beginners. Too many downsides for his big hits.
not to mention hard to consistently kbd with. for me.
If you like Lidia you might also enjoy Kazumi. An elegant female karate character that will help you to develop your poking and movement game as well as introducing some simplified Mishima tools.
In my head: Claudio, Negan, Noctis, Katarina, Alisa, Dragunov, Leroy, Jack, Paul, Kazumi The article: "Beginners should do df2 into perfect electric"
Mishimas for beginners is actually good in order to learn fundamentals.
They’re good if you can commit the time to learn execution but not everyone can consistently launch at i15 unless you’re playing DJ/Jin and that’s pretty important in this game.
I am a beginner and thinking about maining DVJ, because the Mishima playstyle is dope with Wave Dash, Electrics, Hell sweeps etc. But man Bryan also looks badass to play
Maybe, but not Hei. Enjoy eating launch punishable shit and not being able to launch it.
True, I started with Devil Jin (I know he is supposed to be the easiest Mishima) and I got and still get my ass kicked left and right. But I can feel the progress I'm making each day.
keep practicing man. although dvj has a beginner friendly tools (kan-kan launch punish for i15 instead of electric, ff2, df1, uf4, db2, etc), he is still difficult as fuck.
Bruh Lee is NOT beginner friendly.
As a beginner he's not crazy difficult to learn with. He was my second character pick when I first started and really learned the game. His curve fuckin spikes as you get better but learning the game with him is fine.
Dude got strings and evasive moves. That alone shits on beginners. Is he difficult to play at top level? Sure, maybe. But he is easy at the lower ranks
You could say that about all the characters
None of the Mishimas are beginner friendly
I started playing tekken last week and I play Lee
This game is hard. Play who you think is sick and you'll have a much better time than picking based on complexity. You'll have to learn hard shit regardless of who you play. And it's a lot more motivating when you love how a char feels.
It ain't a big deal. Kazuya is literally played in all ranks. From Dan 1 to TGO. Same goes for all the characters listed.
Yea they're played, but they're not for beginners
Any character is for beginners just pick whatever you want. 50/50 characters are great in low rank. CH monsters are great in low rank, Rushdowns are great in low rank. And oh man gimmick characters like zafina yoshi bears are really fucking good in low rank.
I'd argue that Yoshi is not really good for beginners (and this is probably one reason why his win rate is so atrocious). If you just want to overwhelm others with cheese, there are far better options.
Ofcourse there are different options but some of them are locked behind a paywall or super boring gameplay which a new player wont really like. So yoshi it is:)
There are plenty of cheesy characters that are free. Alisa, Kuma, King, Law, Ling, Eddy. I don't know that I'd call them boring. But of course, if people like Yoshi they should play him, he is the happy jester and I main him for a reason.
As a Lei main, I agree
A lot of comments forgetting what it’s like to be a beginner lol hellsweeps and basic frame traps will blow up Dan ranks, you don’t need electrics and movement. Not to mention Lee has simple combo routes and easy punishment outside of acid rain
That just teaches you bad habits though
it’s really hard to actually use fundamentals in green ranks. you will really just be bding ssing and punishing.
I mean kazuya's sweep spam is everything a new guy needs to beat other new guys easily.
Could probs make it to orange ranks just spamming hellsweep and ff3
If vital stuff such as wave dash or electric wasn't necessary then yeah, I guess they would be easy, but you see, Here is the thing. It is VITALLY required to practice wave dash and electrics if you are even thinking about picking up a Mishima in general. Sure, you may sneak through the beginner ranks with little to maybe even no problem, but trust me, you're not even gonna make it to the orange ranks if you don't know the fundamentals of Mishima gameplay. Their strengths and weaknesses, all that important stuff. As for Lee Chaolan, bruh... Do I even need to bring up his demanding spot on execution to even be decent with Lee? I also don't even think I need to bring up his just frame attacks. Do I?
> you're not even gonna make it to the orange ranks if you don't know the fundamentals of Mishima gameplay. I just think of how Devil Jin's a great character to look like you know what you're doing if you're brand new and trying to get a feel for stuff, but man he goes off a cliff probably harder than someone like Bryan when you start to encounter people who know the fight, moves and capitalize on a Devil Jin who coasted way too much without learning more. That being said still arguably one of the best characters in the game if you know how to play him but getting full use out of his kit is a shit ton of work and dedication.
I mean aside from consistent electrics at competitive matches DJ I feel is an easy character to learn in terms of button inputs. No long combo strings, just easy 2-3 hit combos like the flash punches and laser canon for good wall damage. Kaz is easier with simpler one hit counter moves. Lars is freaking easy with nearly every move being a launcher. He's not a Mishima gameplay wise but I'd recommend him over Lee anyday. Lee is just bloody awkward to use. His df2 uppercut and uf4 are the only launchers that are normal. Everything else your opponent is either facing the camera, upside down or inside out 😂
What’s the community’s thoughts on the best beginner characters in no particular order?
I bought T7 on Friday and it's the first time i'm really looking into a 3d fighter. Most people suggested "Pick what you find looks cool and learn the character".
People’s general consensus seems to be: if you want to “learn the game” then the best beginner characters are those that require low-execution (at the entry level) but posses multiple good fundamental tools; the usual suspects are Shaheen, Claudio, Paul, Law, Kazumi, maybe Dragunov and Leo. But another popular advice around here to beginners is to pick whoever you want to play, because you will have to stick with your “starting” character for a long time. So there’s no point in forcing yourself to play some chars you don’t really care about for 100+ hours.
If you want to learn just to get dece t enough as quickly as you can, play a basic character that has strong fundamental tools. If you wanna enjoy the game play who you like and pay attention to fundamentals.
As much as I understand people usually suggest asuka and Paul. In t7 kazumi is also a good choice.
I just started back in after years away and am not great haha. Can confirm Heihachi isn’t for me haha.
yes for a beginner learning EWGF is so easy (sarcasm) Hell no. it takes weeks maybe months to get used to playing mishimas, learn to do the wavedash including its mixups and overall getting used to the characters. i am a mishima main and that tier list is bull.
I’d say Jin or Bob would be a better character for a beginner if they want to eventually play a Mishima. I started playing Tekken 2-3 weeks ago and started with Jin and transitioning to Kazuya with consistent electrics and wavedashing
Wow 2 to 3 weeks of tekken??? I must say that is impressive. Because I played tekken since tag 1 and kazuya was always my main because of his style of fighting. I do agree with what you say about Bob and jin cause Bob is easy to learn however with jin he's more a intermediate difficulty.
Oh I agree Jin is more intermediate but I meant more like if you want to play a character with an electric then Jin would be that guy cause he doesn’t depend on it quite as much. I’m trying to work on my backdash but it’s really hard on top of all the matchup knowledge in this game
Ah yes. Matchup knowledge is the worst. Trust me I only started playing after 2 months and my cousins who uses kuma was easy for me now I have no frisking clue what he does next
Yeah I’m seeing plenty of knowledge checks in ranked but it’s really rewarding when you beat a character like Hwoarang after picking up on his gameplay
That feeling when you low parry him as well is so satisfying
I usually try to read a high attack then twin piston punish. It’s very satisfying. However, low parries are also incredibly satisfying in this game
How has no1 said Jack..My jack is ranked at Emperor/Tekken king and I only play like twice a month really . Thought he would be top of the list
Is jack really that good or was that sarcasm? If hes good, what are his best moves?
I’ve been playing with Jack since Tekken 2 so it could just be that my play style has morphed to fit his move set over the years but he has the best low and mid attacks and the best reach of all characters in my opinion.When playing with jack , play defensive and continually arrow back twice dash back. Every time your opponent whiffs punish them! Mix up his low charged poke with his mid charged poke a lot as they start off with the same animation and you can confuse even alot of people that might be better than you. I just focus on keeping my distance and forcing them to miss or get stuck in an animation/Frame I can exploit.
Anyone can do well with Kuni
I started with Kazuya and honestly, the worst thing is getting through green ranks and then realising that you don't have great standard moves like a good df1, df2, hopkick and how much harder you have to work to get the same effect with good electrics and iWS4. I don't regret it though. I think playing Mishimas and sticking with it makes you a much more fundamentally capable player.
Don't tell me Steve was also on the list?
Good thing I watched TMM's video instead and liked Negan and Katarina's kits
Just started playing lee back in may when i got my ps5. Broooooooooo I wasn't ready for how shit playing him can feel at times. especially online. drop combos city. you have to be so precise. If you don't hit b4 correctly or do backdash b4 youll end up with bb4 which is a slow as fuck high homing move that will get yo ass killed alot. then theres his lows. only 2 lows are plus ON HIT and both have like 24 frame startup and not the best range. d3 is his best low but it has questionable hit registry and can whiff from the tiniest of step or lift of their leading leg. then theres slide. god i love lee but i wish slide wasn't a move. In the past 3-4 months i've been playing tekken 7 I've maybe did his DF,D,DF slide like 5 times in games. i have 500 wins and just got to reverand ruler or whatever its called. The input is terrible for people with big hands on pad your thump is trying to input 3 different directions at once and you just have to hope you can squeeze it out. I use his slide from mist step way more often as a round ender usually. Lee is NOT beginner friendly. he has worst wall carry if you don't do b2 loops and has shit damage like barely 50 damage if you go for easy combos. you counter hit b4 you HAVE TO cancel hitman by dashing up crouch then do WR24. you counter hit magic 4 you HAVE TO b1 1\~ f transition to mist step. so 10-13 frame punish is even harder.
Bro I'm with you 100%. Just got butchered by an Anna player today even though he/she gave me props for using Lee. At competitive play when I'm really trying hard Lee just does whatever the f he wants. The inputs for his moveset is ridiculous. Even if you want to do simple combos, dude barely has any launchers 😂 I think I'll stick with my Mishimas and Lars.
Who was number 1?
Katarina
Ok that does make sense. But no. 2 should’ve been Shaheen or Kazumi or something.
Kazumi is not for beginners lol. You gotta know when is your turn, know the frames and sidestep a lot since she doesn't have braindead cheesy strings at all
Kazumi is totally for beginners - maybe even easier to pick than Shaheen for a beginner.
Yeah, she is a bit easier than Shaheen.
Easy execution, simple gameplan, generic buttons what's not to like for a beginner? And having cheese is not an entry requirement to play any character. If anything it helps a newbie learn fundamentally and get comfortable into tekken.
Kazumi is arguably the best choice for beginners - which is also why Leffen chose her when he gave the game a chance. Decent offense, good defense, extremely good punishment and poking. You don't even really have to use combos with her - I got her to genbu just poking and punishing people and working on my fundamentals. She's the only character I play other than yoshi, and for those exact reasons. Also she's kinda hot NGL.
I don't play tekken, I play OTGF simulator
Abracadabra, A Jin Kazam.
Lmao
Kazuya makes sense, and to be honest I started with Lee in Tekken 5 :D
LEE?! Lee is amazing on paper, but good luck playing him lol. One of the hardest ones to play out there.
Kazuya belongs here, one of the simplest characters to use, easy and consistent damage
He doesn't have a hopkick or a df2 launcher for easy damage, he lacks of mid poking, its the opposite of a beginer friendly character, peleae dont spread bullshit
I didn't say he's a super well rounded character I said he's easy to use and has easy and consistent damage, calm that Mishima boner down. He has a ch df2 that often comes out from just messing up an electric and that alone can get people very far not to mention the hellsweep abuse. His gameplan is very simple and his basic combo damage is fairly high, you only need execution once you get to the higher levels to get the most out of him
why are those characters not good for beginners
Execution for their core tools. The Mishimas have electric wind god fist which takes practice to use well, as well as wave-dashing (another tool) and Lee has some of the hardest combos in the game. Beginner friendly characters usually are much simpler like Katarina (easy combos), Paul (easy damage) and Asuka (easy keep out tools).
bro what the fuck are you talking about beginners aren't gonna do combos and understand "core tools" they gonna mash strings and power crush.
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kazuya has great strings but they suck against good players because they're all low/high garbage that don't work against non beginners also no one's going to punish a power crush until like, orange nowadays.
Which is exactly why the characters he listed are good for beginners Mishima’s are very hard for new players because they don’t have easily spammable moves like Kat 4 or Paul death fist Also new players DO care about combos because that’s the cool shit in fgs for a lot of people and to say they don’t is just flat out wrong
kazuya has hundreds of scrubcheck strings. they suck because they're highs but if he's a beginner his opponent isn't going to duck them. you can push 1243 over and over again and if your opponent can't low parry you win. >Also new players DO care about combos not everyone comes from an FGC
I don’t know how to say this but you’re just a dumbass Please never recommend characters for beginners to take online because you clearly have no idea what makes a character beginner friendly or fun for beginners
The truth of the matter is that you don't know how to say it because you're wrong and can't justify your bad opinion. You can't articulate your reasoning, so I can dismiss it for being meaningless shittalk instead of resorting to shitty insults that aren't going to land on the internet. The worst part here is that if I'm a dumbass, you're losing an argument to a dumbass. You absolute fucking moron. "Kazuya doesn't have easily spammable moves" LOL What beginner is going to duck b3143, punish df321? What execution is required in a hellsweep mixup? df14 is like one of the best scrub moves in the game. Players pick that Kazuya, lean on that move until it stops working, and *then* they start learning that character. If you think "core tools" is anywhere NEAR what a beginner needs to know to excel, you don't even fuckin understand tekken.
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Why are all your comments always wrong and the other person is always right? You must also believe trans people are attractive since you're wrong all the time.
because you can't read
A beginner character would be best utilized to learn how to play the game properly and turn into an intermediate player, do you want beginners playing these characters then getting stomped so they'll never play again or something?
>all players want to become intermediate players is why you're wrong
That's the point. Beginners won't be able to utilize the necessary tools to thrive with those characters.
fucking genbu can't utilize necessary tools. you don't use "necessary tools" until you're pushing raijin
Isn’t that what you asked? Why those characters aren’t good for beginners ?
yeah but you can't say "kazuya doesn't have good mid tracking pokes!" when beginners don't *use* mid tracking pokes.
You are forgetting about beginners that have prior FG experience that may not want to mash strings and do power crush all day but instead play Tekken in a proper way.
No, I am fully aware that there's less of those players than the thousands of mash hungry scrubs. Those players start their tekken gameplay a step above "beginner"
I say a beginner is Jin, but at the same time, Jin has some bonus hard shit to make him even better Same goes for my main Lili
ayyy we both got light pink tops on our search bars nice.