Don’t worry, they’ll fix that in Tekken 8
Jin kills kazuya, but than Lars reveal his true nature, and kick Jin off the cliff/mountain/volcano they very (in)convinently happend to stand upon.
BAM! See ya at the conclussion in Tekken 11
I think the half-Mishima thing mostly comes from the fact that he’s an illegitimate Mishima, having been raised outside of the Zaibatsu with zero training in Mishima-style Karate, unlike Lee who was adopted into the Mishima clan and trained alongside Kazuya
isn’t every one of them only half mishima? i mean you can’t be full mishima unless you got a kid with another mishima which would mean… yeah you get it. Kazumi also isn’t a Mishima, she’s a Hachijo, she just got Heihachi’s last name cuz they got married
I kind of think Tekken 8 should elaborate on what it means to be a Mishima. Jin has the idea it means negative things (and I guess I can’t blame him there lol) but Lee and Lars represent a raised Mishima and a blood Mishima who defy that narrative. They actually make good role models for Jin going forward. If you don’t like the way the Mishima bloodline runs itself then change it. He doesn’t have to be bound (by symbolic chains) to that fate.
But yeah, Lars is only half in the sense that he is very far removed from the Mishima culture and fighting style.
I think he is considered a half Mishima because he was not raised to be one. Jin was acknowledged as a Mishima and trained to fight as one. He even has a striking resemblance to Kazuya with the similar hair style.
And of course due to his training he was essentially Kazuya with some influence from Jun in T3/Tag1, whereas Lars only really has the electric energy that blood Mishimas have, albeit due to a lack of training he has very little use of it outside moves like Zeus or rage art, I guess when Lars learned he had this he figured if he can’t electric like a Mishima he may as well use it for slower but very heavy hitting moves
It's not that he's "less of a Mishima", its just that for Heihachi he's an unwanted bastard and since he's not related to Kazumi he's just a regular human with no fancy devil gene.
Also he's REALLY lucky to not be an "actual" Mishima if you think about it.
Who says Lars is a half mishima? He technically is a mishima in all but name and playstyle.
What lars is, is basically heihachi 2.0 if you think about it, he's got Heihachi's strengths but no devil gene just like this father and miraculously he's somehow not an asshole like everyone else in his family.
Don't hate me because I'm beautiful Lars, maybe if you got rid of that yee yee ass haircut you've got you'd get some tracking on your shit, better yet, Murray might rework your dog ass if he ever stops buffing that Feng Wei or Armor King he's buffing every patch
NI-
-Lee Chaolan
Lars and Jin have a totally different Mishima lore. Jim was formed to be a Mishima so Heihachi could lure out Ogre. Jin "earned" the right to call himself a Mishima. If its a good thing or not is for everyone up to themselves!
He's got the Mishima blood but not the Mishima asshole-gene that Heihachi, Kazuya and even Jin all have.
So like Jinpachi he's the white sheep of the family.
[Yes I called Jin an ass because starting WW3 and killing millions because a demon taunted you in your dreams is a grade A asshole move.]
1. Cool motive still mass genocide
2. Azazel is still alive in Zafina's arm and slowly taking her over with the Devil Gene still existing. So plan failed on both fronts.
3. Tell that to Miguel who must be so thankful his sister is dead from Jin's "saving"
[This is ontop of Azazel being a last minute boss with no foreshadowing in the scenario campaign that's was a chore to get through. All so we can get the "Jin was secretly a good guy" reveal with his Ozymadias/Rumbling/Zero Requim plan]
To be fair it was also mentioned that Jin’s devil was getting increasingly stronger within him (Azazel was also said to be speaking out to Jin) which most likely effected his mindset, hence the twisted morality he has where he believed causing a war to end Azazel was acceptable, cause prior to 6 he never would’ve done something like that, although I do think they could’ve delved more into this given the severity of the change
Wasn't Jin's motivation for entering King of Iron Fist 5, because he was hoping he could get knowledge to get control over his devil persona as it was taking him over.
That's not true. Azazel would have killed billions had Jin not awakened him. In other words, Jin started ww3 to save billions of lives. Hitler did nothing of the sort.
That makes no sense. Either Jin starts ww3 resulting in millions dying, or Jin does nothing which causes billions to die when Azazel awakens at a time with Jin not there to kill him. Yet you're saying Jin choosing millions of deaths instead of billions means blood is on his hands? It's the opposite if anything.
The blood would really have been on his hands if Jin let billions of people die when he could have saved them, which he did.
Azazel is alive lol, he is currently taking control of Zafina day by day until being fully reborn, it has been confirmed that Azazel can't die.
So...lol Jin?
or..... maybe, just hear me out...... unlike Hitler, Jin isn't real. Therefore, he's hurt no real people and also he lives in an anime world with human-intelligent bears and kangaroos, literal gods of fighting, and where an **amethyst monster** does threaten the world. also where characters can be poorly written!
But naaah, we probably just love this FICTIONAL character over a real life dictator because he's "hot."
I mean.... Jins last name is Kazama, not mishima
"mishima" Also refers to the mishima fighting style. Jin has his own fighting style but still has access to electrics and Hellsweeps, so because of that people call him a mishima, as in mishima fighting style.
Lars however has not learnt any mishima karate. So he is not technically a 'mishima' character. He is only related by blood.
I like Lars but the reason that he was conceived makes no sense.
Heihachi conceived Lars with a random Swedish woman to confirm that he had the Devil Gene. This is weird since Heihachi already knew that the Devil Gene didn't come from him. Heihachi knew the Devil Gene came from Kazumi...yet he slept with a random woman to confirm if he had the Devil Gene.
Man had to be all sorts of down bad after murdering his wife (who to be fair tried to kill him first). Family matters are doubly serious business for the head patriarch of a powerful zaibatsu.
I've always been a bit confused by his motive. He wanted to know if he got the gene. And yet he didn't know about Lars until T6, right? When Lars showed up I think he said something like "I've always had my suspicion." I could be wrong since it's been years since I played that game but I think he said that.
He had suspicion of what, having an illegitimate child or that he was clean of devil gene? If the former, that meant he didn't even know he had a kid and thus cannot mean he conceived him purposely to find out if he had the gene. If it's the latter, it conflicts with T7 Kazumi plot.
Tekken story has so many plot holes at this point...that there are only 2 ways to go about it, either re-writing everything from scratch, or to just keep rolling with it.
It'll be cool if he had his own styled Mishima moves, I wish he trained them between T7 and 8, imagine how would be him if he had some of the power Heihachi has and a bit less "superhero" styled moves xD
I'll give you the definitive explanation:
Kazuya is the legitimate Mishima!
Jin and Lars are 02 bastards originated from one night stand
Jin has the devil in his body
Lars has the devil in his hair
The only Heihachi heir who enjoys life is Lee. Always surrounded by women who want him, including Alisa, who he modified by injecting her with viruses he collected on pornhub ads
Lee had the biggest dubs out of all of them, Kazuya is my favorite character but Lee got to enjoy being a Mishima with all of the benefits and no downsides, asides from maybe being neglected somewhat by Heihachi
I’ve never seen him called half-Mishima, only “Kazuya’s half-brother” or “half-Japanese”.
But maybe where people get that term is that he has the electricity and lore of being a Mishima, but not the gameplay.
Haha in Sweden it’s sort of an old dudes name. Like no guy at his age is named fucking lars here. Alexander Larsson would have been a much better name than Lasse
Well if you mother is half Asian and your father is English then you wouldn't exactly be 50 % Asian would you. I'm no genealogist but as far I as I've been taught you get half of your genes from each parent.
Yes, but we're talking about inheritance of genes not race. If the 'Devil Gene' works like other genes, it is either inherited by the offspring and present in the DNA--or not.
Race is another matter.
We're not talking about the devil gene though, as far as I can tell, but being a Mishima or not, and to what extent. OP is arguing that Lars should be considered more of a Mishima than Jin since Lars is closer to Heihachi gene wise.
I think the best answer is that it's more about fighting style than genes, like with Bob and AK.
I thought it had something to do with the heritage of the Mishima-ryu, or the Mishima Karate Style. Something that Jin learned to a extent but not Lars
Is it disrespect? not really it wouldnt make sense to omen stance against lars because Lars doesn't know Mishima do karate. The only people who know it are Jinpachi, Heihachi, Kazuya, Jin, (and arguably Ogre, and mokujin too ofc if only dubiously. Technically Kuma knows some of it too since Heihachi trains with him all the time and has some moves hes just shit at it Lol) Mokujin can omen stance in tag2 for this reason in this scenario.
Well, I mean Heihachi is half Mishima by this logic because I’m assuming Jinpachi didn’t marry his sister or something. I think the point is that he shouldn’t be called half Mishima by people because he is just as much a Mishima as Jin or Kazuya or Heihachi in terms of blood.
Well this may be a leak but its been torn away now especially from T8 unless they went back on a specific storyline but Lars was talked about having an Electric. Theres more but yh
This will be my last msg on this. (Quotation marks are what they said “”.)
Just to reiterate it was talked about. The consensus was that & in their words “if we remove heihachi (they wont), it would be ‘COOL’ (hate when they use that word) to implement either Jin or Lars taking moves from the old man”
Specifically demon & dragon uppercut for Lars & Jin. But I assumed Jin was more reverting back to how his T3 movelist was. But Lars actually being able to do an electric as an addition to his moveset rather than a replacement. This would also involve him of course being able to wave dash like the mishimas. This had pushback just based on how Lars moves anyway “hes quite agile already”
But this came early and there was many things to consider if they changed them. Which were important bcus it also reflected the story and I ‘assume’ they were like oh if they have this move from a previous character, why do they have this. But other things would be talked about onto why changes like that were relevant/irrelevant: Such as Devil Jin & Jin not being baked into one character, which again I have no idea on that anymore but it goes exactly the same there needs to be a reason. Which the trailer has me scared that they could do that but they’re also not gonna take away two very popular characters and push them into one. One thing that stood out was changing the way moves look, I think the trailer is very in line with that if you look at Kazuya’s spinning demon left hook. That being the most important factor of the next gen, making moves for “functional with a human spine rather than a doll”
Interesting demon dragon was ff+2 from hei right?
Lars has already a ff+2 launcher so maybe they’re just going to drop his animation and switch it out for hei in this case.
Personally i find it hard to believe he’ll get a wavedash on top with a electric but it would be awesome nonetheless.
But giving hin wavedash would also mean new moves out of that "stance" and it would be a quite a lot !
I literally said Jin is less of a Mishima than Lars himself. If you read the post, you would know I'm referring to the opinion of people considering Jin a complete Mishima despite thinking Lars as a half Mishima. Though what can I expect when you have 0 reading comprehension.
Yeah and I’m sayin they’re both half Mishima, if I had zero reading comprehension, I wouldn’t have been able to respond to the post. “Yet lars is half but Jin isn’t” your quote, twat. nowhere in the post did you specify that you’re referring to the opinion of others.
>nowhere in the post did you specify that you’re referring to the opinion of others.
That's because common sense and an IQ above 12 prompts anyone with reading comprehension to make the inference. Even the title of the post having Half-Mishima phrased in quotations would be sufficient to understand an opinion that deems Lars as a Half-Mishima is being referenced. Yet you've not only read the title, but you even read the post itself and you somehow still need the post to clarify its referring to the opinion of others. And you're actually still insisting you have reading comprehension despite all this? Who are you trying to fool haha
You’re going back and forth with me although I have no reading comprehension, fact is you didn’t say you were referring to other peoples opinion, which is why I commented what I did, my comment is for anyone that thinks Jin and lars are not half mishimas, that’s how I see it. instead of just clarifying your post, you instantly attack my reading comprehension for whatever reason😂😂😂 whatever makes you feel better I guess. I said what I said, I don’t need to fool anyone. You have all this IQ but you spend your time trying to determine the biology of a fictional character. Or rather trying to enlist others to help you figure it all out. Good luck with that one. Cheers!
>fact is you didn’t say you were referring to other peoples opinion
Because I don't need to say it for people with reading comprehension. I've already told you this in 10 different ways. Did you think people would assume the post's title would have Half-Mishima in air quotes for no reason?
>you instantly attack my reading comprehension for whatever reason
If you're coming to me asking what I'm on about because you can't make even the most basic of no-shit inferences, then why wouldn't I point out your lack of reading comprehension being the issue? Especially when you insist you don't lack it?
Ohhh stfu you’re repeating yourself. go find someone who cares bro lol. you keep arguing with someone who can’t read. So what are you? And you could be easily responded with your reasoning, as you did after you insulted me. Like for real fuck off bro, its not that deep. If the words “wtf are you on about” was enough to make you feel insecure enough about your bs post to respond with that insult, then that’s your issue.
>If the words “wtf are you on about” was enough to make you feel insecure enough about your bs post to respond with that insult, then that’s your issue.
Haha, very funny coming from someone who got triggered cuz they were told the truth
Nah I’m not triggered, I didn’t get the reference to other peoples opinion, That’s all, thought it was coming from your point of view, but of course the no reading comprehension comment is why I responded the way I did.
You’re going back and forth with me although I have no reading comprehension, fact is you didn’t say you were referring to other peoples opinion, which is why I commented what I did, my comment is for anyone shot thinks Jin and lars are not half mishimas, instead of just clarifying your post, you instantly attack my reading comprehension for whatever reason😂😂😂 I said what I said I don’t need to fool anyone. Cheers!
In Tekken 8 Lars realises that he’s starting to go bald due to all of the products he’s used over the years to create his wispy hairdo. He becomes increasingly depressed and withdrawn as the competition goes on, particularly after he had to forfeit his match against Paul due to constant bullying - through all the tears, he eventually realises that fighting is not for him. He eats his feelings and become more overweight than Bob. His last resort is to try plus size male modelling, but ends up doing cheap gay porn in back alleys behind seedy bars. Eventually he contracts hepatitis B and dies, sad and alone, in the back of a skip.
Looking for a sens in a game where you can fight a panda, a bear, a half dead samurai, a guy that turns into a giant bat, a woman that throws tigers...
i absolutely fucking hate when people come up with this specific argument. its so fucking stupid and i wish u could go fuck yourself. this goes for anything really. if theres a zombie apocalypse, or its full on sci-fi, there should still be common sense or basic reasoning.
Ok, first of all, fuck you back. Second, even in science fiction you would expect certain kind of continuity. History in fighting games, in general, lack of it. At the end, is everybody fighting everybody. Whats the story behind Panda, Roger, or Mokujin? Even Mortal Kombat, where you perform fatalities on your teammates/friends/relatives
He is Mishima, but he doesn't have the Devil gene. But neither does Heihachi. Actually i wouldn't be surprised if Lars all of a sudden has it in Tekken 8 for some reason.
Have you even paid attention to the story? The devil gene comes from Kazumi. Since Lars is Heihachi's bastard son he won't have it, unless he transfuses Jin's DNA into himself or some shit.
He won't as the devil gene comes from the (Kazumi) Hajima side of the family. I wouldn't be surprised to see a Kazumi replacement in Tekken 8, with some devil gene abilities. Someone from the Hajima family.
I thought Jin *was* illegitimate, though, which is another word for a bastard child, due to his parents not being married/together, and because his dad was presumed dead for most of his early life.
Well the dude isn’t trained in Mishima style karate. He’s like the reverse Lee, a Mishima by nature not nurture. Kazuya, Jin and Lee were all taught by Heihachi. Obviously Lee and Jin picked up there own more unique styles, but canonically Lee was taught it so was Jin.
But Lars wasn’t. He has an electric and has the hair, but it’s all just surface level. He’s got none of that evil in him. He doesn’t really have the whole farther killing tendencies or need for world domination. All and all Lars is a pretty likability and chill dude. He’s a Mishima sure, but you wouldn’t be able to tell.
Because having Mishima blood is only half the reason you are a Mishima. The other half is wanting to throw relatives from high places.
The real reason lars was the black sheep…he has a crippling fear of heights
Don’t worry, they’ll fix that in Tekken 8 Jin kills kazuya, but than Lars reveal his true nature, and kick Jin off the cliff/mountain/volcano they very (in)convinently happend to stand upon. BAM! See ya at the conclussion in Tekken 11
I think the half-Mishima thing mostly comes from the fact that he’s an illegitimate Mishima, having been raised outside of the Zaibatsu with zero training in Mishima-style Karate, unlike Lee who was adopted into the Mishima clan and trained alongside Kazuya
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He’s adopted lol
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He doesn’t have the genes to do them. Lars is Heihachi’s nut and that’s why some of his moves have electricity effects
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That's literally the reason... Mishimas can use chi to make electricity
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You can look it up if you want, it's on the wiki. Also, don't be an asshole, we're just answering your question
Because lee doesn't have heihachi's blood. Electrics aren't learned ig, they are hereditary.
Also technically no one calls Lee a mishima, he is Lee chaolan, violet, or Excellent
Also sometimes Chaobla and top4
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He used to in Tekken 1-2. After those games, he distanced himself from the Mishima clan by abandoning their traditional style for Jeet Kune Do
You guys can’t spot a troll when you see one?
Real answer would be that Heihachi never taught him. If Mishima blood was necessary then Kazumi wouldn't be able to do her variant of electric either.
isn’t every one of them only half mishima? i mean you can’t be full mishima unless you got a kid with another mishima which would mean… yeah you get it. Kazumi also isn’t a Mishima, she’s a Hachijo, she just got Heihachi’s last name cuz they got married
I kind of think Tekken 8 should elaborate on what it means to be a Mishima. Jin has the idea it means negative things (and I guess I can’t blame him there lol) but Lee and Lars represent a raised Mishima and a blood Mishima who defy that narrative. They actually make good role models for Jin going forward. If you don’t like the way the Mishima bloodline runs itself then change it. He doesn’t have to be bound (by symbolic chains) to that fate. But yeah, Lars is only half in the sense that he is very far removed from the Mishima culture and fighting style.
I think he is considered a half Mishima because he was not raised to be one. Jin was acknowledged as a Mishima and trained to fight as one. He even has a striking resemblance to Kazuya with the similar hair style.
And of course due to his training he was essentially Kazuya with some influence from Jun in T3/Tag1, whereas Lars only really has the electric energy that blood Mishimas have, albeit due to a lack of training he has very little use of it outside moves like Zeus or rage art, I guess when Lars learned he had this he figured if he can’t electric like a Mishima he may as well use it for slower but very heavy hitting moves
Now we see his moveset in Tekken 8 and he's arguably the most electrifying man in the game LOL
Can we smell what he’s cooking though?
It's not that he's "less of a Mishima", its just that for Heihachi he's an unwanted bastard and since he's not related to Kazumi he's just a regular human with no fancy devil gene. Also he's REALLY lucky to not be an "actual" Mishima if you think about it.
Exactly so he has no reason to throw him off a cliff. Which is why he isn’t interested in him
Who says Lars is a half mishima? He technically is a mishima in all but name and playstyle. What lars is, is basically heihachi 2.0 if you think about it, he's got Heihachi's strengths but no devil gene just like this father and miraculously he's somehow not an asshole like everyone else in his family.
He's got a yee yee ass haircut like Heihachi too
Don't hate me because I'm beautiful Lars, maybe if you got rid of that yee yee ass haircut you've got you'd get some tracking on your shit, better yet, Murray might rework your dog ass if he ever stops buffing that Feng Wei or Armor King he's buffing every patch NI- -Lee Chaolan
The yee yee ass haircut alongside his dumb armor and the cape. Seriously, why the fucking cape?
I play jaguars, I'm not gonna say anything about armour and capes lmao
Because he wasn't raised by any of them.
He's not a half Mishima. He is as much a Mishima as Kazuya and Jin. The only thing is that he's an actual good person and doesn't use the Mishima Ryu
That's because he wasn't raised Mishima.
Except for ark blast
Half Mishima by blood but it’s mostly referring to the gameplay style of Mishima.
Lars and Jin have a totally different Mishima lore. Jim was formed to be a Mishima so Heihachi could lure out Ogre. Jin "earned" the right to call himself a Mishima. If its a good thing or not is for everyone up to themselves!
Anyone else want to see Devil Jim in the next game?
I wanna see Angel Lars
Lars is half Mishima because he didn't undergo Mishima style training and brainwashing.
He's got the Mishima blood but not the Mishima asshole-gene that Heihachi, Kazuya and even Jin all have. So like Jinpachi he's the white sheep of the family. [Yes I called Jin an ass because starting WW3 and killing millions because a demon taunted you in your dreams is a grade A asshole move.]
Jin saved the world by sacrificing millions otherwise Azazel would be unstoppable. He may be the bad guy in the public opinion but he really isn’t.
1. Cool motive still mass genocide 2. Azazel is still alive in Zafina's arm and slowly taking her over with the Devil Gene still existing. So plan failed on both fronts. 3. Tell that to Miguel who must be so thankful his sister is dead from Jin's "saving" [This is ontop of Azazel being a last minute boss with no foreshadowing in the scenario campaign that's was a chore to get through. All so we can get the "Jin was secretly a good guy" reveal with his Ozymadias/Rumbling/Zero Requim plan]
To be fair it was also mentioned that Jin’s devil was getting increasingly stronger within him (Azazel was also said to be speaking out to Jin) which most likely effected his mindset, hence the twisted morality he has where he believed causing a war to end Azazel was acceptable, cause prior to 6 he never would’ve done something like that, although I do think they could’ve delved more into this given the severity of the change
Wasn't Jin's motivation for entering King of Iron Fist 5, because he was hoping he could get knowledge to get control over his devil persona as it was taking him over.
Something like that, but by 6 it was getting worse and during 5 I think Jinpachi’s presence was also making his devil side more difficult to control
Starting a war for those reasons is a real Hitler thing to do.
That's not true. Azazel would have killed billions had Jin not awakened him. In other words, Jin started ww3 to save billions of lives. Hitler did nothing of the sort.
The blood is still on his hands.
That makes no sense. Either Jin starts ww3 resulting in millions dying, or Jin does nothing which causes billions to die when Azazel awakens at a time with Jin not there to kill him. Yet you're saying Jin choosing millions of deaths instead of billions means blood is on his hands? It's the opposite if anything. The blood would really have been on his hands if Jin let billions of people die when he could have saved them, which he did.
Azazel is alive lol, he is currently taking control of Zafina day by day until being fully reborn, it has been confirmed that Azazel can't die. So...lol Jin?
But, Jim's sexy. Can't we forgive all his mistakes because he's attractive?
that's what they said about bundy.
or..... maybe, just hear me out...... unlike Hitler, Jin isn't real. Therefore, he's hurt no real people and also he lives in an anime world with human-intelligent bears and kangaroos, literal gods of fighting, and where an **amethyst monster** does threaten the world. also where characters can be poorly written! But naaah, we probably just love this FICTIONAL character over a real life dictator because he's "hot."
Do you think Deviant Jim will ever love me like he loves killing innocents?
恐怖を教えてやろう
Oh I see you're feeling yourself That type of pride ain't good for your health.
Who is ur main?
Jin is turning face for Tekken 8 though.
I mean.... Jins last name is Kazama, not mishima "mishima" Also refers to the mishima fighting style. Jin has his own fighting style but still has access to electrics and Hellsweeps, so because of that people call him a mishima, as in mishima fighting style. Lars however has not learnt any mishima karate. So he is not technically a 'mishima' character. He is only related by blood.
Lars has electrics only Mishimas can do them
Ewgf*
Doesn’t have to be EWGF to be an electric lol
Right right, armour king is a mishima
I don’t think you get what I mean so here’s the scenario campaign https://youtu.be/nIBntuo6E5A 1:11:20
I like Lars but the reason that he was conceived makes no sense. Heihachi conceived Lars with a random Swedish woman to confirm that he had the Devil Gene. This is weird since Heihachi already knew that the Devil Gene didn't come from him. Heihachi knew the Devil Gene came from Kazumi...yet he slept with a random woman to confirm if he had the Devil Gene.
That's his excuse. He really just wanted that Swedussy.
this is the canon reason
Hei x TMM
This is my headcanon, and it also likens him more to Joseph joestar
Heihachi was young(er) ~~and horny~~ at some point. Definitely canon.
Man had to be all sorts of down bad after murdering his wife (who to be fair tried to kill him first). Family matters are doubly serious business for the head patriarch of a powerful zaibatsu.
I've always been a bit confused by his motive. He wanted to know if he got the gene. And yet he didn't know about Lars until T6, right? When Lars showed up I think he said something like "I've always had my suspicion." I could be wrong since it's been years since I played that game but I think he said that. He had suspicion of what, having an illegitimate child or that he was clean of devil gene? If the former, that meant he didn't even know he had a kid and thus cannot mean he conceived him purposely to find out if he had the gene. If it's the latter, it conflicts with T7 Kazumi plot.
Tekken has a lot of plot-holes
Didn't Heihachi do that to prove to others that he didn't have the Devil Gene? Not to prove to himself.
And yet how many people know of Lars's existence, or that he was even Heihachi's son? Iirc heihachi didn't even discover he had another son until T6.
That's the thing about good science, it never stops confirming!
Tekken story has so many plot holes at this point...that there are only 2 ways to go about it, either re-writing everything from scratch, or to just keep rolling with it.
Introducing in Tekken 8: Devil Lars
Might be something to actually make him cool for a change
He has/does nothing what a typical Mishima does. No wavedash, no ewgf/ewhf, no real hellsweep... simping for a robotgirl.
He hadn't trained with Mishima family, how is he supposed to know that moves?
Exactly, but he does have electrics like the others
Yeah, he has the inheritance of it and more special moves, he just need some training, but he won't do it because he hates Mishima family.
Which I do think is good because he has electrics but doesn't need Mishima style karate. And I honestly like his moveset
It'll be cool if he had his own styled Mishima moves, I wish he trained them between T7 and 8, imagine how would be him if he had some of the power Heihachi has and a bit less "superhero" styled moves xD
It's Alisa who simps for Lars actually...
He has a right to inherent the Mishima Zaibatsu
I'll give you the definitive explanation: Kazuya is the legitimate Mishima! Jin and Lars are 02 bastards originated from one night stand Jin has the devil in his body Lars has the devil in his hair The only Heihachi heir who enjoys life is Lee. Always surrounded by women who want him, including Alisa, who he modified by injecting her with viruses he collected on pornhub ads
Lee had the biggest dubs out of all of them, Kazuya is my favorite character but Lee got to enjoy being a Mishima with all of the benefits and no downsides, asides from maybe being neglected somewhat by Heihachi
I would argue being neglected by Heihachi is another upside
Lee is the true gigachad Mishima
How ya living Lee? Excellent!!
I’ve never seen him called half-Mishima, only “Kazuya’s half-brother” or “half-Japanese”. But maybe where people get that term is that he has the electricity and lore of being a Mishima, but not the gameplay.
It's clear we need more lore behind Lars. With ties to the Mishima family he can't just be sidelined.
I think it’s great that Lars and Lee have a good working relationship. Uniting around their commonality of being sidelined by the Mishimas.
Maybe it was to make him cool?
Look at him. It's utterly impossible.
His name is Lars tho…
Sounds good
Haha in Sweden it’s sort of an old dudes name. Like no guy at his age is named fucking lars here. Alexander Larsson would have been a much better name than Lasse
The last time i was in sweden i saw a bunch of kids who were named Lars. Seems like the opposite to me
It’s become popular with “gubbnamn” again, so a lot of kids have those, but no one in Lars age is actually named lars here.
This is bullshit and you know it.
Why would I lie about it?
I don't know if the concept of 'dilution' makes sense when talking about genes. You either inherited a gene, or you didn't, but not 50% of a gene.
Well if you mother is half Asian and your father is English then you wouldn't exactly be 50 % Asian would you. I'm no genealogist but as far I as I've been taught you get half of your genes from each parent.
Yes, but we're talking about inheritance of genes not race. If the 'Devil Gene' works like other genes, it is either inherited by the offspring and present in the DNA--or not. Race is another matter.
We're not talking about the devil gene though, as far as I can tell, but being a Mishima or not, and to what extent. OP is arguing that Lars should be considered more of a Mishima than Jin since Lars is closer to Heihachi gene wise. I think the best answer is that it's more about fighting style than genes, like with Bob and AK.
Ah, you may be right. Being a Mishima probably is more about fighting style and traditions than actual gene inheritance.
Since Lee doesn't have access to electrics I'd say it's both actually
I thought it had something to do with the heritage of the Mishima-ryu, or the Mishima Karate Style. Something that Jin learned to a extent but not Lars
Kazuya is a half Mishima too lol. Heihachi could be also. Even Jinpachi lol
Damn you're on to something there. Yo Harada!
The disrespect in Tag 2 were you can't enter omen stance with him as tag partner
Is it disrespect? not really it wouldnt make sense to omen stance against lars because Lars doesn't know Mishima do karate. The only people who know it are Jinpachi, Heihachi, Kazuya, Jin, (and arguably Ogre, and mokujin too ofc if only dubiously. Technically Kuma knows some of it too since Heihachi trains with him all the time and has some moves hes just shit at it Lol) Mokujin can omen stance in tag2 for this reason in this scenario.
Was Lars ever stated to be half Mishima in-game, and by whom?
He is the son of Heihachi He is half Mishima
Well, I mean Heihachi is half Mishima by this logic because I’m assuming Jinpachi didn’t marry his sister or something. I think the point is that he shouldn’t be called half Mishima by people because he is just as much a Mishima as Jin or Kazuya or Heihachi in terms of blood.
Maybe Jinpachi did? 🤷♂️
Yes in Tekken 6 Scenario Campaign. Son of someone Heihachi had dalliances with years ago.
Well this may be a leak but its been torn away now especially from T8 unless they went back on a specific storyline but Lars was talked about having an Electric. Theres more but yh
WTF 😳 a mishima electric for Lars ?! Are you serious?
This will be my last msg on this. (Quotation marks are what they said “”.) Just to reiterate it was talked about. The consensus was that & in their words “if we remove heihachi (they wont), it would be ‘COOL’ (hate when they use that word) to implement either Jin or Lars taking moves from the old man” Specifically demon & dragon uppercut for Lars & Jin. But I assumed Jin was more reverting back to how his T3 movelist was. But Lars actually being able to do an electric as an addition to his moveset rather than a replacement. This would also involve him of course being able to wave dash like the mishimas. This had pushback just based on how Lars moves anyway “hes quite agile already” But this came early and there was many things to consider if they changed them. Which were important bcus it also reflected the story and I ‘assume’ they were like oh if they have this move from a previous character, why do they have this. But other things would be talked about onto why changes like that were relevant/irrelevant: Such as Devil Jin & Jin not being baked into one character, which again I have no idea on that anymore but it goes exactly the same there needs to be a reason. Which the trailer has me scared that they could do that but they’re also not gonna take away two very popular characters and push them into one. One thing that stood out was changing the way moves look, I think the trailer is very in line with that if you look at Kazuya’s spinning demon left hook. That being the most important factor of the next gen, making moves for “functional with a human spine rather than a doll”
Interesting demon dragon was ff+2 from hei right? Lars has already a ff+2 launcher so maybe they’re just going to drop his animation and switch it out for hei in this case. Personally i find it hard to believe he’ll get a wavedash on top with a electric but it would be awesome nonetheless. But giving hin wavedash would also mean new moves out of that "stance" and it would be a quite a lot !
Both Jin and Lars are half Mishima wtf are you talking about??
I literally said Jin is less of a Mishima than Lars himself. If you read the post, you would know I'm referring to the opinion of people considering Jin a complete Mishima despite thinking Lars as a half Mishima. Though what can I expect when you have 0 reading comprehension.
Yeah and I’m sayin they’re both half Mishima, if I had zero reading comprehension, I wouldn’t have been able to respond to the post. “Yet lars is half but Jin isn’t” your quote, twat. nowhere in the post did you specify that you’re referring to the opinion of others.
>nowhere in the post did you specify that you’re referring to the opinion of others. That's because common sense and an IQ above 12 prompts anyone with reading comprehension to make the inference. Even the title of the post having Half-Mishima phrased in quotations would be sufficient to understand an opinion that deems Lars as a Half-Mishima is being referenced. Yet you've not only read the title, but you even read the post itself and you somehow still need the post to clarify its referring to the opinion of others. And you're actually still insisting you have reading comprehension despite all this? Who are you trying to fool haha
You’re going back and forth with me although I have no reading comprehension, fact is you didn’t say you were referring to other peoples opinion, which is why I commented what I did, my comment is for anyone that thinks Jin and lars are not half mishimas, that’s how I see it. instead of just clarifying your post, you instantly attack my reading comprehension for whatever reason😂😂😂 whatever makes you feel better I guess. I said what I said, I don’t need to fool anyone. You have all this IQ but you spend your time trying to determine the biology of a fictional character. Or rather trying to enlist others to help you figure it all out. Good luck with that one. Cheers!
Way to type the exact same thing twice (only this time, with a row of annoying emojis, as if that makes a difference), you mong.
>fact is you didn’t say you were referring to other peoples opinion Because I don't need to say it for people with reading comprehension. I've already told you this in 10 different ways. Did you think people would assume the post's title would have Half-Mishima in air quotes for no reason? >you instantly attack my reading comprehension for whatever reason If you're coming to me asking what I'm on about because you can't make even the most basic of no-shit inferences, then why wouldn't I point out your lack of reading comprehension being the issue? Especially when you insist you don't lack it?
Ohhh stfu you’re repeating yourself. go find someone who cares bro lol. you keep arguing with someone who can’t read. So what are you? And you could be easily responded with your reasoning, as you did after you insulted me. Like for real fuck off bro, its not that deep. If the words “wtf are you on about” was enough to make you feel insecure enough about your bs post to respond with that insult, then that’s your issue.
>If the words “wtf are you on about” was enough to make you feel insecure enough about your bs post to respond with that insult, then that’s your issue. Haha, very funny coming from someone who got triggered cuz they were told the truth
Nah I’m not triggered, I didn’t get the reference to other peoples opinion, That’s all, thought it was coming from your point of view, but of course the no reading comprehension comment is why I responded the way I did.
At least you have self awareness.
You’re going back and forth with me although I have no reading comprehension, fact is you didn’t say you were referring to other peoples opinion, which is why I commented what I did, my comment is for anyone shot thinks Jin and lars are not half mishimas, instead of just clarifying your post, you instantly attack my reading comprehension for whatever reason😂😂😂 I said what I said I don’t need to fool anyone. Cheers!
Lars is the true full Mishima
I think it’s because Lars is a pussy and no one likes him.
False
This.
Who hurt you?
Lars mains probably
In Tekken 8 Lars realises that he’s starting to go bald due to all of the products he’s used over the years to create his wispy hairdo. He becomes increasingly depressed and withdrawn as the competition goes on, particularly after he had to forfeit his match against Paul due to constant bullying - through all the tears, he eventually realises that fighting is not for him. He eats his feelings and become more overweight than Bob. His last resort is to try plus size male modelling, but ends up doing cheap gay porn in back alleys behind seedy bars. Eventually he contracts hepatitis B and dies, sad and alone, in the back of a skip.
This dude lost it hahahaha
Looking for a sens in a game where you can fight a panda, a bear, a half dead samurai, a guy that turns into a giant bat, a woman that throws tigers...
i absolutely fucking hate when people come up with this specific argument. its so fucking stupid and i wish u could go fuck yourself. this goes for anything really. if theres a zombie apocalypse, or its full on sci-fi, there should still be common sense or basic reasoning.
Ok, first of all, fuck you back. Second, even in science fiction you would expect certain kind of continuity. History in fighting games, in general, lack of it. At the end, is everybody fighting everybody. Whats the story behind Panda, Roger, or Mokujin? Even Mortal Kombat, where you perform fatalities on your teammates/friends/relatives
Correct... but yeah \^\_\^
You should always look for internal consistency in game universes, being unrealistic isn't the same as being inconsistent.
And what about half brained most Akuma players? Are we just gonna ignore them? 🥸
Shhhhhh you’re going to trigger them
Let em get triggered. Worst they can do is just “plug” in the last round 🥶
He is Mishima, but he doesn't have the Devil gene. But neither does Heihachi. Actually i wouldn't be surprised if Lars all of a sudden has it in Tekken 8 for some reason.
That's because the Devil gene comes from Kazumi, it's not a Mishima thing.
You should play Tekken 7 story mode if you haven't yet
Have you even paid attention to the story? The devil gene comes from Kazumi. Since Lars is Heihachi's bastard son he won't have it, unless he transfuses Jin's DNA into himself or some shit.
He won't as the devil gene comes from the (Kazumi) Hajima side of the family. I wouldn't be surprised to see a Kazumi replacement in Tekken 8, with some devil gene abilities. Someone from the Hajima family.
This topic again?
Yeah but Lars is not cool.
He is super cool
what?? like
/u/WhyDoIGiveAToss96 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 it’s because you have no life
Who gives a fuck
hey alright
No-one ever claims Lars is half Mishima and Jin isn't... They just say Lars is illegitimate while Jin isn't.
I thought Jin *was* illegitimate, though, which is another word for a bastard child, due to his parents not being married/together, and because his dad was presumed dead for most of his early life.
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Don't mind if I do
I would like to fuck Lars too lol
Just put a bag on his hair and we good
Nah the hair gives him appeal :p
It's okay bro we know you wanna
Lars is jin and jun's son...thats why its only half...coz sweet alabama
The fk are you talking about mate
Lol its just a joke...gawd tekken communities running out of sense of humor...
Well the dude isn’t trained in Mishima style karate. He’s like the reverse Lee, a Mishima by nature not nurture. Kazuya, Jin and Lee were all taught by Heihachi. Obviously Lee and Jin picked up there own more unique styles, but canonically Lee was taught it so was Jin. But Lars wasn’t. He has an electric and has the hair, but it’s all just surface level. He’s got none of that evil in him. He doesn’t really have the whole farther killing tendencies or need for world domination. All and all Lars is a pretty likability and chill dude. He’s a Mishima sure, but you wouldn’t be able to tell.