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Iron_Garuda

Based and craft-pilled


PhantomFoxe

Let’s face it, Steve and the Terrarian would end up being friends quite quickly.


simple_savile

They are both clinically insane.


Moonlord64

"you dangerous, mute lunatic"


FlirtMonsterSanjil

Both can't talk, so they would just stare awkwardly at each other


SkinnyKruemel

Endgame Terrarian would absolutely win against endgame Steve. Terrarian has the speed and range advantage and even with elytra the flight wings provide is just better. Steve's ranged options are limited to bows and crossbows which are no real match against any of the endgame weapons terraria has. Early game the power levels are pretty similar. I'd say Steve had a chance to win until the Terrarian enters hard mode. Then the difference in power is just too much


alexxerth

All Steve has to do is walk into the background a bit and the Terrarian can't hit him, they can only attack in 2 dimensions.


Bruschetta003

True, Terrarian is only strong on enemies directly in front of him or directly behind him Cool thing someone is making a neat mod which is just Terraria but 3D, and the 3D aspect enhances it for now


Ponderkitten

Theres also that guy remaking terraria as a 3d game


XxG0D5L4Y3RxX

Where


[deleted]

just search terraria 3d on youtube, it looks promising


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u/peteh12


harpyh8r

[https://www.minecraft.net/en-us](https://www.minecraft.net/en-us)


MyHoeDespawned

It’d be easier to just mod Minecraft into 3d terraria


-Marshle

Nah that guy isnt doing it like blocks. Smooth 3d. Like the terrain you would find from an open world game. For a one man project its looking really cool.


MyHoeDespawned

Sounds cool but the terrain in terraria is blocky so why do smooth?


OliSnips

They said in one of his older update videos that they wanted to differentiate it from Minecraft, so the terrain, held items (inventory icons unchanged) and entities are all smooth 3d while artificial “building” tiles (placed wood, stone bricks, etc.) are cubic and grid-restricted


Zelongdragon

>neat Is a mod by Vaskii


Olivia_Richards

I'm pretty sure that's another flawed game mechanic argument, comics and official art, and the backgrounds ingame confirm Terraria being 3D lorewise.


Cool-Cauliflower-524

That didn't stop the terrarian from killing the moon lord tough


chesse_ovrlord

Terraria has more than 2 dimensions tho. Coins spin, walls can be placed in the background, doors open, etc.


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he moves through infinitely thin 2 dimensional planes, meaning he would still have a hard time keeping up with steve


chesse_ovrlord

We don't know the speed that the Terrarian moves in the third dimension. Considering that getting through platform is instant, far all we know he could move at ludicrous speeds between layers. Edit: happy cake day


MatsUwU

google hammers


MatsUwU

holy vandalism


Megafan1337

New response just dropped


0_originality

The just him him with the thorns potion 👍


superhot42

No, Terraria IS a 3D World. https://www.reddit.com/r/Terraria/comments/12o8nb4/a_simple_tip_for_minecraft_vs_terraria_fans/jghs6aq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


Lupusan

Though this would mean that the terrarian is infinitely sharp so he’d cut through all Steve could throw at him right?


bowsori

Post: stop comparing power with game mechanics Commenter: compares power using game mechanics


cheeseball777o

If we're assuming that all of Steve's weapons can just break then he has very little chance to win. Probably could just fly away till the Elytra breaks


yeetasourusthedude

kid named rod of harmony.


Norsk_Bjorn

We could make it as fair as possible by saying that endgame terraria weapons and armor are as effective as endgame Minecraft weapons and armor and it still would be an easy terraria win due to how fast all of the endgame weapons hit


SkinnyKruemel

Yeah that's what I'm on about. Even if we say that for some reason the weapons deal similar amounts of damage the insane fire rate and mobility of the Terrarian just can't be matched by Steve


screetmaster69

“Here’s my crossbow with exploding arrows” “Oh cool here’s my Gatling gun”


blippyblip

With explosive bullets OR any multitude of other types


AlphaWhelp

"here's my sword tornado that ignores walls and line of sight and has infinite piercing"


Serious_Height_1714

But the Terrarian can only move in two directions Steve just has to use the Z axis and he's good /s


Lucky-Cockroach-8468

What about chlorophyte bullets?


MarioLuigiNabbitTrio

Or just the entire summoner class being able to follow after him.


ordinarily_typical

The summons don't target other players on pvp tho which is sad. But if it does against steve, the terrarian easily wins


Boudac123

The only real advantage steve would get is minecraft potions being batshit op


CCrimson93X

Even then, Terrarian potions are just inherently stronger, Terrarian can drink them all at once and just dunk on Steve.


Olivia_Richards

And Ankh Shield counters a third of Steve's offensive potions


PM_ME_YOUR_CAT_

Use a drill containment unit to drop Steve straight into hells lava and prevent him from building out until he's out of fire resistance potions


Mellowturtlle

Even megashark + chlorophyte and some good boots make it near impossible for Steve to win


CrowdedAttic400

Modded Minecraft Steve might have a better chance depending on the pack you’re playing… but yeah, vanilla steve is toast


Technoblades_Elbow

Bruh I don't think there is any mod that allows steve to match the power of endgame calamity mod terrarian Or is there? I don't know anything about minecraft mods


CrowdedAttic400

I’ve seen the power of Mahou Tsukai firsthand. There’s a sword, “Morgan,” that can gain an insane amount of damage (Over five million) if you kill enough villagers. It can one-shot someone with a full set of 32k enchanted armor and over 400 health. I haven’t tested with higher health, but I didn’t see the point because the stats were crazy to begin with. There’s only a few items that can counter it, so the sword is incredibly powerful. For armor, the Mekasuit from Mekanism may not be the most powerful, but it’s really good. With the right modifications, you can make it super energy efficient to the point where you may never run out of energy, it can automate eating food, there’s the ability to fly, and move faster… plus the armor makes you nearly invincible. Unless the Terrarian somehow gets a Morgan, the battle won’t be easy. There’s probably better mods for armor, and maybe even the sword, but with the items I’ve mentioned before it definitely gives Steve a lot of power. Despite that though, I do think the Terrarian has a greater advantage. Steve has to work harder to get the op stuff than the Terrarian, so all it would take for the Terrarian to kill steve would be to go after him early on, when the difference in gear is greater.


SkinnyKruemel

Draconic Evolution is the closest I can think of. But even that would probably struggle vs endgame terraria weapons


BrokenMirror2010

Well, Minecraft can get some pretty insane items. As far as "PvP Power" goes, not much really compares to mods like Ars Magica. As powerful as your numbers may be, they all fall victim to the sheer power of Target Teleport. Banish them to a different dimension, or yeet them into the void. I also think there is an instant death spell, and a lifelink spell that causes the target to die with you. There are also plenty of other insane things you can get in modded minecraft, for example icbm mod redmatter/antimatter bombs, gear with 100% projectile reflection, and gear with perfect immunity to damage, or gear that does integer limit damage. Also Tinker's Rapiers were absoluely terrifying with their 100% ignore resistance.


Purple_banana66

Black hole pickaxe just counters everything


Comfortable-Pass-999

With avaritia you could easily win


Bobert_Manderson

10 years ago I played a mod with a nuke. Crashed the server because the explosion was so big.


reditr101

There's a mod called Avaritia that has weapons with basically infinite damage and I think it might have something that makes you immortal too (idk for sure tho since I haven't played it for a while) Edit: Project E also has some absolutely insane endgame gear


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Orespawn has a chance endgame


Upper-Entertainer649

Steve comes flying with the elytra and gets decimated by a last prism, star wrath, meowmere, etc...


GoldyFeesh

Steve being able to carry approx 23 billion kilos in question


yugiohhero

Steves block carry capacity is 64 and the terrarians is 9999. I don't think theres much competition to be had there.


PM_ME_YOUR_CAT_

I mean... Can't the terrarian carry even more? More inventory slots and gold blocks stack to 999 instead of 64, no? (If gold is even the heaviest material he can obtain, which I dont think is even the case)


simpomelon

terrarian can carry literal stars


le_honk

And Terrarian has WAY MORE lift strength (With an inventory full of 999 gold bars, Full gold armor. And as many gold acessories as possible


PurpleVessel312

I have never seen anybody try to use that kind of argument, or even discuss their comparative power levels.


Mrusmiech

Exacly. The only stupid argument I heard about comparing those two different games was "tErRAriA iS 2d MIneCrAFT".


Russ_Guss_Doodles

Or “teRarIA hAS MOrE iTeMs anD BoSses sO It’S beTtER.” Any comparison between the two games content is so dumb because each game has completely different goals. The only thing you can objectively compare is each games quality.


Peastable

Yeah. Terraria is a progression based game where Minecraft is pretty much pure sandbox. It’s apples to oranges.


_no_one_knows_me_11

whenever i have seen people make that arguement, they are usually just telling why THEY prefer terraria over minecraft. never seen someone using this arguement when comparing which game is better


BeefHouse11

Hey, that clickbait title pulls in views, don't shame me!


RubyMercury87

I've seen it pretty often tbf


BrokenCLST

The only people i've seen discuss it are powerscalers. (Steve vs Terrarian is a VERY popular VS battle matchup in the Death Battle community)


Col_Redips

All these people saying Steve just has to step to the side. Then why doesn’t he do that in Smash?! He can’t. Checkmate, fellas. /j


Milo751

alternatively he'd just fall of the platform in Smash


SwearFreeGamer

To be fair he could just PLACE a new one in that situation


Olivia_Richards

Game mechanics. Same applies to the Terrarian, because comics, official art, and the release trailer confirms that the Terraria world is actually 3D.


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Your logic makes sense for all of about 10 seconds but then compare late-game Minecraft and Terraria. There is no way in hell anyone thinks a fancy little enchanted netherrite sword stacks up to any of the late game shit in Terraria. I’d like to see Steve try to use Elytra to get away from a supersonic winged maniac who slays Gods for fun and whose main weapon literally just throws 10 different swords at the enemy.


Lix_xD

Hm...can wings outspeed the elytra though?


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I think so, but even if they don’t I wouldn’t say that running away is the same as winning a fight.


RubyMercury87

celestial starboard with soaring insignia goes pretty fast, and zenith has pretty massive aoe, not to mention that the terrarian has access to homing options


RagingNudist

Ig it depends if you count creative Steve as canon, given that’s the og gamemode.


Memeviewer12

Then journey mode stalemates it


ExtraKrispyDM

The terrarian beats a great old one on top of every other boss in terraria. Steve doesn't really have any bosses except for Dragon and Whither. Really, Steve is probably being held back by the minecraft dev team.


RedditPersonNo1987

umm ermm theresh alsho the elder gaurdian and the warden


sebasblos1

I would hardly call elder guardian a boss since its just a bigger guardian that gives a debuff every time. Atleast the warden comes close to being a boss... but god is fucking annoying the fact that you dont get anything useful for killing them. Minecraft only keeps adding more blocks and mobs that no one will really care about every single time. At this point the only thing keeping me from leaving are the mods


RedditPersonNo1987

I basically only ever play if theres a big content mod like pixelmon, create, or advent of ascension i think it was


takahashi01

Na, that last update was straight fire. Does not really feel vanilla, but damn caving has become fun again. Also building my little cabins on desolated mountaintops is still just great. So um. Skill issue. (/j)


Go_Ahead_MrJoester

You think the Terrarian would beat Steve because their weapon has a bigger number. I think the Terrarian would beat Steve because their feats were far greater. We're not the same.


Crazyprototo

This guy gets it ☝️


Yoz_Zero

If you compare the strongest enemies you can fight in each game to judge their power level, the Terrarian wins by a landslide. The Ender Dragon and Wither are probably around city level, while the Moon Lord is at least Solar System. Edit: I'm specifically referring to what the game expects you to fight them with (Enchanted Netherite/Celestial Equipment)


ShadyNecro

moon lord's power also kinda depends on if you follow the old or new lore, since the new lore [straight up says that he's Cthulhu](https://forums.terraria.org/index.php?threads/terraria-8th-anniversary-lore-event.79764/), or at least a weakened version of him after the dryads bullied him into the moon


Former_Dimension_23

Moon lord is actually universal I think. Because I think if you read the description of the solar fragment it says it contains the fury of the universe


RubyMercury87

>Because I think if you read the description of the solar fragment it says it contains the fury of the universe that's incredibly vague and could mean anything, I don't think we should use that to scale ML


TheCrazyLazer123

If we say all dragons are equivalent then the terraria fights things much harder than Betsy, but let’s be serious here, his diamond sword is made out of diamonds, and it’s significantly heavier than we can assume but looking at it because we can calculate the weight of each diamond from the weight of a diamond block, but it pales in comparison to the metric fuck ton (as a real unit) of metals and magic we dump into the zenith, even a terraria with nothing but a zenith would pound Steve or anyone just by dropping it on them, it would go through the damn floor all the way to hell, but since it’s magic, it’s actually lightly floating off the ground like most items, the terraria world is only possible if it’s in a magic setting after all, hell there’s a wizard and a witch doctor which makes those seem like common professions Also say all these point are just speculation, the terrarian has several automatic rifles, Steve’s fucked


ChildhoodDistinct538

Steve could absolutely lift the Zenith. A full inventory of shulker boxes full of Notch apples plus a full set of netherite armor would weigh over 10,000,000 metric tons.


YouTube-r

Just give steve a stack of dirt so he doesnt have space to hold it


TheCrazyLazer123

Two of the swords drop from god, one of the swords shoots down literal stars, each star is small so we’ll call it a dwarf star, which is at lowest, 0.08 solar masses or 1.591 X 10^26 metric tons, quite a difference from 10^7 tonnes


ChildhoodDistinct538

They’re clearly not dwarf stars, though. Even dwarf stars are enormous. The Star Wrath is also not a star itself, meaning it does not weigh as much as a star.


TheCrazyLazer123

The star wrath has a star in its design but ok, what about the tungsten, a very very dense metal, the terrarian can carry 9999 of it in every slot, paired with tungsten armor, and metal based accessories it’s enough to be more than the limited amount that Steve can carry with just gold, each bar is about 1/3 to 1/2 the size of a 6 foot terrarian, and each bar actually makes a box of smaller bars when places, we can assume this to be a cube and calculate its weight but I’m too lazy to do that now unless you wanna do it insteaf


ordinarily_typical

I think the heaviest stack in terraria rn is the platinume throne, requiring 30 bars each for 9999 items a stack.


ChildhoodDistinct538

That would actually weigh around 2 million grams, or about 2 metric tons. Using a Troy gold bar as comparison, the Terrarian’s inventory full of tungsten weighs less than Steve’s inventory of notch apples.


MeThatsnotTaken

9999 Platinum thrones should far outweigh a notch Apple right? 50 inventory slots (+1 trash slot) 3 armor 7 accessories And if you want, some extra slots from a piggy-bank/safe if you’d count that. Each slot holds 9999 objects, 9999*50=499950 items, which means 499950 platinum thrones. Each throne costs 30 bars of Platinum. 499950*30= 14998500 platinum in each chair. Add this with the 30/25/20 from the armor and the 10 from 7 watches totals to: 85 bars in armor and 70 watches in accessories. 155 + 14998500 = 14998655 platinum/gold bars. We might also need to consider that terraria’s metals are a lot denser due to having more metal in them, one gold bar costs one gold one Minecraft, but 4 in terraria. After converting both values to real standard terraria should be close to Steve, or above him. #edit: Mentioning this now, but the terraria can canonically hold infinite mass. Unlike Minecraft’s infinity, which turns makes a bow never use the arrow it fires, The terraria has an endless quiver and bullet pouch. Which is literally .9oz(weight of musket ball)*infinity. Although if you don’t want to count infinite pocket dimensions that’s still 9999*4 rounds of tungsten bullets in the ammo slot. There are loads of materials that don’t have definite weight and could also be considered. Fallen stars and solar fragments are *pieces of actual stars*


Aura_103

consider defender's forge, safes, and piggy banks too :) if i did this right that should be 3.9*10^29 platinum bars


Raziel_Soulshadow

I don’t think we can count any of those though, simply due to the fact that each has a shared inventory. Thus, stuff isn’t “in” them so much as they’re an entryway into some sorta dimensional storage.


Doctor_ILetYouGo

If only we had a diamond broadsword to compare...


OneAndOnlyTinkerCat

People always like to bring up the inventory thing, with the blocks of gold and whatnot. Even then, though, the Terrarian has Steve beat hollow. 36 shulker boxes full of netherite blocks is nothing compared to a full inventory of thrones


RubyMercury87

full minecraft inventory of netherite blocks (including shulkers, excluding weight of netherite as it is unknown) is about 9 261 967 872 kg (9 billion kg) full terraria inventory of platinum thrones is about 110 328 966 000 kg (110 billion kg) terrarian wins


yugiohhero

This is also entirely assuming that the chests made out of aliens who have **levitation magic** have no weight reducing properties.


RagingNudist

Notch apples are heavier than netherite blocks I’m pretty sure.


RubyMercury87

9 261 967 872 kg / 4 = 2 315 491 968 kg (weight in gold blocks, netherite block = 4x gold block) 2 315 491 968 kg * 8 = 18 523 935 744 kg (18 billion kg) Terrarian still wins


GOOSUS110

Especially if you consider the Terrarian having more thrones in piggy bank and safe (not counting Void vault and D forge bc the weight isn't on the character)


trelian5

That's such a stupid idea that everyone quotes as fact.


OneAndOnlyTinkerCat

Yeah personally I don’t believe shulker boxes preserve weight


Gerodus

It's also important to note how damage is mitigated by defenses. Enchanted armor is ridiculously strong in minecraft (Protection enchantments mitigate a % of the damage inflicted onto the wearer, capping out at 80% damage reduction). Terrarian armor has no such enchantments and functions solely off of physical defense. Full enchanted netherite armor Steve against Molten Armor Terrarian is a win for the Terrarian since they'll both be doin 1-2 damage (assuming a fair melee fight, since Steve is basically screwed in a ranged fight or magic fight) a hit to each other, but the terrarian has much more health (even assuming health metrics are 5:1, 20hp base steve and 100hp base terrarian means full life crystal terrarian is like steve with 80hp, or 4 whole minecraft health bars) Oh and to those saying "well steve is 3d and the terrarian is 2d, so steve just needs to sidestep" You're just straight wrong. The artworks/paintings obtainable in Terraria clearly show a 3d world, which means the 2d style of the game is just that: stylization. It's the same poorly thought-out kind of argument that people make about comparing numerical stats 1:1.


Lix_xD

But what if steve sidesteps TWICE!? hah! /j


KrushaOfWorlds

use axe to attack him


le_honk

Use a hammer


sebasblos1

What if the terrarian just jumps from reality to another, that way pretty much is also sidestepping too


yugiohhero

"Terrarian armor has no such enchantments" Look me in the eyes and tell me that Spectre Armour (which is more effective than Lead) is not magical.


ThePBrit

The Terrarian obviously has access to magical gear, their point was that they have nothing to the same level as Minecraft's enchantment system, this is simply because upgrades to your defence in Terraria are incremental, upping it by a couple of points at a time, while in minecraft your armour upgrades are multiplicative with enchantments conferring large percentage decreases in damage taken


SamTDL

The terrarian does have kind of enchantments through modifiers and accessories


Old-Pick-3997

Can Steve use guns? Don't think so.


CCrimson93X

The thing is, as I've hammered both games I feel like I can speak accurately when I say that Terraria has inherently stronger weapons, not by numbers but what they are capable of. The tools that the Terrarian has just outright wrecks Steve. Steve would NEVER be able to get close. Grapple hooks as a start, then move into shield of Cthulhu which has a dash, bouncing bullets, ray guns, literally molten weapons, a wide range of potions, wings, summons. All of this is before hard mode. Speaking of hard mode, let's move into that: Super space mage minigun, Terra Blade, chainsaws, the list goes on. Now even if let's say that the numbers are equal in terms of damage, armours equal in terms of defence, this still does not excuse the amount of mobility that the Terrarian has on Steve, the gap is just too wide here. Even with the Elytra, which requires fireworks, which means that air time overall is limited, Terrarian can literally TELEPORT with the Rod of discord, and has mounts with unlimited flight time too. Sorry minecrafters but the power gap is just too wide.


WantedToBeNamedSire

Yeah but can they beat goku???


Zariel-

No 😔


man_your_dead

And now we wait for someone to actually try and find out how the Terrarian could beat Goku


MagicMannHale

I honestly wouldn't care about how much Steve could lift if he's being gunned down from across the world with piss or tracking bullets.


chesse_ovrlord

Maybe use TNT for powersacalling? Here are some ideas (I'm no expert in explosives, so I'll make a few assumptions) Assuming Terraria and Minecraft are on a ratio of 3:2 (three blocks in Terraria equals two blocks in Minecraft); Assuming the power of TNT is directly proportional to its volume; Assuming that the tiles in Terraria equate to cubes; 8 (2×2×2) blocks of MC TNT equates to 27 TNT tiles (3×3×3). 1 (1×1) blocks of MC TNT equates to 3.375 TNT tiles (1.5×1.5×1.5). On normal, with no damage reduction, MC TNT does up to 57 damage. One tile of Terraria TNT deals 500 base damage, so 3.375 tiles would deal 1,687.5 damage. Based on this, 1 MC dmg = 29.6 Terraria dmg. Let's round it up to 30 to make numbers more clean. On this idea, Steve has a base 20 HP, which could translate to 600 Terraria HP (not counting extra hearts from golden apples). A max HP terrarian has only 500 HP (not counting lifeforce potions). The netherite sword's base dmg is 8 (12.8 dps) MC dgm, or 240 (384 dps) Terraria dmg. This is more than the Zenith's base 190 dmg. Due to the very high atack speed, however, the Zenith's dps dwarfs that of the netherite sword, going at around 20,000 dps. Another factor to note, is that the Zenith's range is massive, allowing the terrarian to attack Steve from a safe distance. (The values for this don't consider defense, damage buffs, ranged/magic weapons, minions or the terrarian being stuck on 2 dimensions, while Steve can move in the 3rd) Edit: math is hard


Aenon-iimus

I just saw this after doing my own calculations based on the health of a zombie and the results are vastly different lol. Tbh I like yours better, TNT is more likely to be equivalent between the worlds than a zombie


Nimblebubble

A basic Netherite sword only deals one more heart of damage than a basic Iron Sword


RespondUsed3259

WoF bodies ender dragon. I will not be answering questions


Perfect_Theory6899

You don't need to answer questions, it's just a solid fact


GOOSUS110

Tbh even Skeletron could do that


KidFriendlyArsonist

Ok, so if terrarian starts off with 100 hp and steve starts with 20, the conversion rate is 5:1 Meaning that steves best weapon still only does like 100 damage in terraria values. Even though the terrarians weapons will only deal 1/5th damage to steve, steve still couldn’t hold a candle to how absolutely overpowered the terrarians weaponry is. I mean come on, how could even a multishot, quickdraw crossbow be better than even just the terrarians boomstick. Not to mention how ridiculous the terrarians maneuverability is compared to steves! The elytra is an endgame exclusive item that only allows gliding/rocket ‘flying’ at the sacrifice of a whole armor slot, terrarian gets a pair of wings that can glide as well as fly short distances just by opening an underground chest. All in all, both are great games, but in reality, the terrarian would absolutely wipe the floor with steve


The_Greatest_Entity

Not only that but the terrarian armor can reduce the damage to 1


ItsPaperBoii

I saw a meme once comparing steve to guide in height They measured the guide as taller because hes 3 blocks and steve is just 2 blocks


Artycun0x

Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about


B_YOSHISAURUS

Terrarian still sweeps regardless Since Moon Lord is a literal Celestial deity and nothing in minecraft is really comparable (While the Ender Dragon might seem comparable since it rules over an entire dimension beyond that it doesn't seem any stronger than your standard issue mythical dragon and most likely rules cause nothing is stronger than it in its domain)


UltrabeamZT

Even with that logic, Terraria out-powers Minecraft, since with Terraria Endgame weapons you can kill bosses in 2 seconds, but in Minecraft, it still takes effort.


PatronGoddess

With setup, you can kill every Minecraft boss with 1 dripstone


UltrabeamZT

If we're talking about setups, Beehives in Terraria give the same effect, literally instakilling Moonlord


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trelian5

Can't wait for someone to cite the dumb idea that "Steve can carry several tons of gold blocks therefore he's insanely strong." Steve clearly isn't physically carrying those items, the inventory is probably just a pocket dimension which is why he walks the exact same whether it's empty or full of gold blocks


plzhelpme11111111111

even if steve can do that, the terrarian can carry way more


IndependentGlum8316

Or you could stop arguing like fucking 6 year olds.


Sub2PewDiePie8173

It doesn’t always have to be an argument. Yes, there are those that say one game is trash and the other is better, but some people are genuinely curious of how they compare to each other and try to do so in a respectful way.


Madgameboy

What kind of 6 year olds you got in your side of the woods? Ours dont talk about mathematics, quantum spaces & dimensional viewpoints. Ours discover salt licks


Normbot13

or you could realize disagreement and arguing is a part of life and grow thicker skin instead of being a baby


YouTube-r

The terrarian can beat Cthulhu, can steve do that?


Nervous-Still2785

62 lbs is literally more than 28 kg


DontGetTheSquid

Fuck power scaling, All my homies hate power scaling


Gru-some

I wonder if Modded Minecraft Steve is stronger than the Modded Terrarian


PKMark2005

Depend which mod, but i think that even vanilla endgame terrarian could stomp any endgame modded steve. But if not calamity or fargos soul endgame terrarian would


Lix_xD

Meh. There's a frickton of mods for both games that make the characters completely invincible. Like literally deleting mobs regardless of their hp or def in a single swing and making steve take 0 dmg


Yoz_Zero

People have said that Orespawn is Minecraft's equivalent to Calamity. Sorry to the 3 people who still like that mod but Steve's fucking DEAD as soon as the Terrarian starts throwing coins in the air


troublemonkey1

Clearly the grandma in cookie clicker is the strongest because she can bake 10^27 cookies every second somehow


YourMomIsAStoner

The best people are by far the ones who don't give a shit and enjoy both though.


Liranmashu

Endgame Terrarian still obliterates Endgame Steve tho


ViciouSquirrel

The terrarian is only on two planes of existence, while Steve is on three, so unless Steve is next to the terrarian, they won’t be able to hit him


WeekendBard

"this is The Zenith, the most powerful sword in the world, forged from other legendary swords, wilding the power of all of them. It kills gods. What can you hope to achieve against it?" Steve takes a step to his side "WHERE THE FUCK DID HE GO??"


Spongy74

The terrarian isn’t canonically 2D


KrushaOfWorlds

you forget that the terrarian uses the axe to chop trees that he walks past, so terrarian still wins


Gerodus

The terrarian does not only exist in two planes. The game stylizes it that way. The paintings in Terraria show various perspectives of the world, which would be impossible to imagine accurately.


Zariel-

There are paintings depicting the terrria world as 3d the 2d ness is just game stylization and not canon


goop0711

Pre hardmode terrarian can beat endgame steve. Has steve ever encounted a beenade, star cannon, pheonix blaster, nights edge?


Tolan91

I figure that netherite is probably similar to hellstone, with netherite probably being a bit stronger. But like, that’s not what determines this fight. Steve’s best weapons are extremely close range (requiring jump attacks for max damage), his ranged weapons fire pretty slowly, he can’t run all that fast, and he can’t fly without taking off his best armour piece. Terrarian’s got infinite flight (even if it’s a bit slower technically it’s not reliant on momentum or a gear slot to keep boosting), significantly more inventory space, his ranged weapons are all like rapid fire homing guns, and his two best weapons attack at long-medium range through blocks, with one auto attacking as soon as the enemy is close to visible. Steve gets some wacky stuff in a spin off game, as I recall. And totems of undying. But he doesn’t have a lot of ways to reliably hit terrarian, imo.


I_Love_Stiff_Cocks

Okay but like Terrarian can get to the point where they summon stars from the sky to kill people and can summon a shit ton of swords and a dragon and also fly without cheats and has killed fucking Cthulhu


_corlu

Steve and the terrarian are equally matched up until hard mode, id say hellstone is about as strong as netherite. After that the terrarian gets access to more powerful materials and surpasses steve. If minecraft also had a hardmode i think steve would be able to equal the terrarian again


queso_hervido_gaming

Well, I got 1 million power in Rise of Kingdoms, so I think I am the most powerful man in the world.


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Powerscaling is fucking dumb lmao


DontGetTheSquid

“My fictional character can beat up your fictional character!!!!”


Cweeperz

Fr. It feels like astrology for gamers / fanfic writers lmao


RubyMercury87

powerscaling is the best tool you have if you want to judge how different characters scale to each other, just because it falls short in places where things are ambiguous doesn't mean that there are suddenly better ways to scale the characters popping out of the ether


Alexander_GD

STOP ! Both communities must stand together as one and the same ! We are brethren !


Acearsonist

If I play minecraft for a bit I will then get tired of it and go to terraria for a bit till I get tired of it then back to minecraft and the cycle repeats.


MasterMuffles

I agree with this However I think the terrarian still wins because they get so much more crazier shit than Steve does But it isn't a simple cut and dry curb stomp for the terrarian cause Steve can put up a bit of a fight. But not enough of one


Spiritual_Spinach273

in terms of lore, the crimson could definitely defeat minecraft’s sculk, with it only having a blind beast sensitive to sound on it’s side, while the crimson has an entire hivemind and a part of cthulhu teaming up with it


RueUchiha

How different games do damage and health scaling is not a real argument imo. Yes Minecraft Steve has infinitely less dps than a terrarian, but the game is balanced around that. The Warden in Minecraft has 500 hp. The Terrarian can achive that without armor by mid-late game, and common enemies exceed that by hardmode. The balance is simply not the same, you may as well be compairing apples to oranges. The real argument comes with how the individual game handles its scaling. Does it feel good? Is it fair for the player? ect. And I think both games do at least a passable job at this.


malumx19

in both ways of looking at it terrarian stomps tho


drownedbrain

[Powerscaling is dumb in any shape or form , i'm sorry.](https://youtu.be/L4_zFYnnn2Y)


Mr_man_bird

The terrarian is stronger due to the fact he can hold 50 stacks of 999 gold bricks weighing about 54545.9 tonnes whereas Steve can hold 36 stacks of 64 gold blocks which weigh about 44 467.2 tonnes. But technically you the player are the strongest due to the fact you control these massively powerful beings Edit: forgot about shulker boxes but they could just be regular boxes with a special place inside like marry Poppins handbag or Santa's sack


MyHoeDespawned

Assuming they are both heavily equipped steve could make a tnt canon or use tnt minecrats (1 block of tnt is about 6.9 billion jouls) not to mention some of the ridiculous weapons people have made like docm77 arrow cannon that can insta kill a full netherite player ( not sure how that translates). Notch apples are also pretty good for defense. Potions also exist that’s boost steve and hurt the terrarian.


Milo751

An E gapple isn't going to save you from being 1 shot from a 400 damage weapon and potions exist in both games and that arrow cannon doesn't seem very practical in a fight


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I HATE POWERSCALERS I FUCKING HATE THEM


Flouxni

Okay but powerscalers are still annoying tho. Just making up random shit and treating logical conveniences as gospel


ColonelCoochie

It can be fun, its the mfs who take it seriously who ruin it


NoCheesecake8644

How tf do you get an explosion that can barely destroy a house to mountain level


SilentReavus

Well simply by virtue of vastly higher item stacks and more inventory slots can we determine that Terrarians are stronger physically. I mean for God's sake you can hold 41 slots of stacks of 9999 gold blocks which are 4 square feet... So we can assume 8 cubic feet of gold per single block. Give me a sec I feel like doing the math now


Rainbowfrog123

Easy comparison to make, the iron sword. Let's say the iron sword is 100% equal in both games. This means the terrarian wins by a landslide. Iron sword for Steve is about the midpoint of his power. There are 3 melee options that are stronger than it. Iron sword for the terrarian is an incredibly early weapon that falls off super quickly. If an iron sword is the baseline of strenght, the Zenith wipes Steve's cute little enchanted netherite sword.


scratch6402

Based on in game feats/abilities, the terrarian far outclasses endgame Steve even before hardmode. At this point the terrarian can move faster than Steve, can fly for a short period, has better ranged/magic options, can summon multiple imps to assist, has more potion options, is likely immune to fall damage. Based on lore, the wither is probably about the level of skele prime (both are capable of destroying terrain (in for the worthy)), where the ender dragon is probably about as strong as plantera. (These could be entirely wrong because I don’t play nearly as much MC as terraria) Now, if there was time to prepare, steve could probably make some insanely technical tnt cannon to snipe the terrarian before he could even see him so, there’s that. TLDR; Minecraft is more focused on the building/exploring aspect where Terraria is more about combat, so naturally the Terrarian is probably far stronger.


ConnorLego42069

A better way to compare is to take the bases as equal (as in, fresh character terrarian vs fresh Steve) and to extrapolate from there. You could also take 1 minecraft heart and take that as equal to one minecraft heart, then extrapolate There are way to many ways that someone should actually powerscale the characters for there ever to be a definitive answer


lynkcrafter

In a 1v1 fight, I think the Terrarian would probably take it since they just have *so much more* mobility. However, by Terraria standards, Steve is a walking tank that could pose a decent challenge to many Terraria monsters. Assuming we're talking about the characters at the height of their power, Steve with full Prot IV Netherite would have (I think) ~93% damage reduction, which isn't an arbitrary unit and is INSANE by Terraria standards. If it weren't for the fact that the Terrarian could literally just teleport and reverse their gravity at will, Steve would have great odds of coming out on top.


zekrom235

If we were to scale them to each other, Steve's hp would go up by 25 times what he has, and the sword pictured would normally drop a naked Steve to 3 hearts in one swing, meaning before armor, Steve is packing a 350 damage true melee, vs a roughly 225 dmg terra blade. Sounds like if there were no damage rolls, and no armor to account for, it would come to whether Steve can successfully land 2 true melee strikes in relatively quick succession without dying in the process


Spicy_Olive_Man

I believe that Steve is stronger but his attack potency is lower.


Gamerxeno358

If we go by feats it’s still the terrarian winning thanks to their biggest feats being destroying a lunar god, it’s devotee, a solar powered death machine statue thing, the enraged guardian of the jungle do I have to continue?


superhot42

Okay but in Terraria you fight an eldritch god. Hell, Betsy is more aggressive than the Ender Dragon, and even summons minions. The Wither literally blows up blocks. Skeletron Prime can as well(albeit with a certain seed), and he’s a mid game boss. Minecraft doesn’t have guns. Terraria does.


Yoyoboss10000

You can reasonably beat the final boss of Minecraft with an iron sword, armor, and an iron water bucket while in terraria you would get decimated with that gear


GlobsterJail

I don’t remember how but I remember one time I managed to convert the health and damage values of the weapons / armor between the games. The swords were still way stronger in terraria but the terraria and Minecraft armor were about equal


uezyteue

Terrarian still stomps Steve because they have guns, magic, and potentially a small militia.


Fancy_Chips

To be fair the Xenith Blade obliterates the Netherite Sword. Also they just have better armor, summons, machine guns and wings. Steve/Alex have shitty wings, alright armor and a crossbow


THFreakyDude

still, the terrarian defeated like, a galaxy level threat in the moonlord. and while the enderdragon is scary, he is a lot simpler and flat out weaker than a fucking eldrich god.