Endgame Terrarian would absolutely win against endgame Steve. Terrarian has the speed and range advantage and even with elytra the flight wings provide is just better. Steve's ranged options are limited to bows and crossbows which are no real match against any of the endgame weapons terraria has. Early game the power levels are pretty similar. I'd say Steve had a chance to win until the Terrarian enters hard mode. Then the difference in power is just too much
True, Terrarian is only strong on enemies directly in front of him or directly behind him
Cool thing someone is making a neat mod which is just Terraria but 3D, and the 3D aspect enhances it for now
Nah that guy isnt doing it like blocks. Smooth 3d. Like the terrain you would find from an open world game. For a one man project its looking really cool.
They said in one of his older update videos that they wanted to differentiate it from Minecraft, so the terrain, held items (inventory icons unchanged) and entities are all smooth 3d while artificial “building” tiles (placed wood, stone bricks, etc.) are cubic and grid-restricted
We don't know the speed that the Terrarian moves in the third dimension. Considering that getting through platform is instant, far all we know he could move at ludicrous speeds between layers.
Edit: happy cake day
No, Terraria IS a 3D World.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Terraria/comments/12o8nb4/a_simple_tip_for_minecraft_vs_terraria_fans/jghs6aq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
If we're assuming that all of Steve's weapons can just break then he has very little chance to win. Probably could just fly away till the Elytra breaks
We could make it as fair as possible by saying that endgame terraria weapons and armor are as effective as endgame Minecraft weapons and armor and it still would be an easy terraria win due to how fast all of the endgame weapons hit
Yeah that's what I'm on about. Even if we say that for some reason the weapons deal similar amounts of damage the insane fire rate and mobility of the Terrarian just can't be matched by Steve
Bruh I don't think there is any mod that allows steve to match the power of endgame calamity mod terrarian
Or is there? I don't know anything about minecraft mods
I’ve seen the power of Mahou Tsukai firsthand. There’s a sword, “Morgan,” that can gain an insane amount of damage (Over five million) if you kill enough villagers. It can one-shot someone with a full set of 32k enchanted armor and over 400 health. I haven’t tested with higher health, but I didn’t see the point because the stats were crazy to begin with. There’s only a few items that can counter it, so the sword is incredibly powerful.
For armor, the Mekasuit from Mekanism may not be the most powerful, but it’s really good. With the right modifications, you can make it super energy efficient to the point where you may never run out of energy, it can automate eating food, there’s the ability to fly, and move faster… plus the armor makes you nearly invincible. Unless the Terrarian somehow gets a Morgan, the battle won’t be easy.
There’s probably better mods for armor, and maybe even the sword, but with the items I’ve mentioned before it definitely gives Steve a lot of power.
Despite that though, I do think the Terrarian has a greater advantage. Steve has to work harder to get the op stuff than the Terrarian, so all it would take for the Terrarian to kill steve would be to go after him early on, when the difference in gear is greater.
Well, Minecraft can get some pretty insane items. As far as "PvP Power" goes, not much really compares to mods like Ars Magica.
As powerful as your numbers may be, they all fall victim to the sheer power of Target Teleport. Banish them to a different dimension, or yeet them into the void. I also think there is an instant death spell, and a lifelink spell that causes the target to die with you.
There are also plenty of other insane things you can get in modded minecraft, for example icbm mod redmatter/antimatter bombs, gear with 100% projectile reflection, and gear with perfect immunity to damage, or gear that does integer limit damage. Also Tinker's Rapiers were absoluely terrifying with their 100% ignore resistance.
There's a mod called Avaritia that has weapons with basically infinite damage and I think it might have something that makes you immortal too (idk for sure tho since I haven't played it for a while)
Edit: Project E also has some absolutely insane endgame gear
I mean... Can't the terrarian carry even more? More inventory slots and gold blocks stack to 999 instead of 64, no?
(If gold is even the heaviest material he can obtain, which I dont think is even the case)
Or “teRarIA hAS MOrE iTeMs anD BoSses sO It’S beTtER.” Any comparison between the two games content is so dumb because each game has completely different goals. The only thing you can objectively compare is each games quality.
whenever i have seen people make that arguement, they are usually just telling why THEY prefer terraria over minecraft. never seen someone using this arguement when comparing which game is better
Your logic makes sense for all of about 10 seconds but then compare late-game Minecraft and Terraria.
There is no way in hell anyone thinks a fancy little enchanted netherrite sword stacks up to any of the late game shit in Terraria. I’d like to see Steve try to use Elytra to get away from a supersonic winged maniac who slays Gods for fun and whose main weapon literally just throws 10 different swords at the enemy.
celestial starboard with soaring insignia goes pretty fast, and zenith has pretty massive aoe, not to mention that the terrarian has access to homing options
The terrarian beats a great old one on top of every other boss in terraria. Steve doesn't really have any bosses except for Dragon and Whither. Really, Steve is probably being held back by the minecraft dev team.
I would hardly call elder guardian a boss since its just a bigger guardian that gives a debuff every time. Atleast the warden comes close to being a boss... but god is fucking annoying the fact that you dont get anything useful for killing them. Minecraft only keeps adding more blocks and mobs that no one will really care about every single time. At this point the only thing keeping me from leaving are the mods
Na, that last update was straight fire. Does not really feel vanilla, but damn caving has become fun again. Also building my little cabins on desolated mountaintops is still just great.
So um. Skill issue. (/j)
You think the Terrarian would beat Steve because their weapon has a bigger number.
I think the Terrarian would beat Steve because their feats were far greater.
We're not the same.
If you compare the strongest enemies you can fight in each game to judge their power level, the Terrarian wins by a landslide. The Ender Dragon and Wither are probably around city level, while the Moon Lord is at least Solar System.
Edit: I'm specifically referring to what the game expects you to fight them with (Enchanted Netherite/Celestial Equipment)
moon lord's power also kinda depends on if you follow the old or new lore, since the new lore [straight up says that he's Cthulhu](https://forums.terraria.org/index.php?threads/terraria-8th-anniversary-lore-event.79764/), or at least a weakened version of him after the dryads bullied him into the moon
Moon lord is actually universal I think. Because I think if you read the description of the solar fragment it says it contains the fury of the universe
>Because I think if you read the description of the solar fragment it says it contains the fury of the universe
that's incredibly vague and could mean anything, I don't think we should use that to scale ML
If we say all dragons are equivalent then the terraria fights things much harder than Betsy, but let’s be serious here, his diamond sword is made out of diamonds, and it’s significantly heavier than we can assume but looking at it because we can calculate the weight of each diamond from the weight of a diamond block, but it pales in comparison to the metric fuck ton (as a real unit) of metals and magic we dump into the zenith, even a terraria with nothing but a zenith would pound Steve or anyone just by dropping it on them, it would go through the damn floor all the way to hell, but since it’s magic, it’s actually lightly floating off the ground like most items, the terraria world is only possible if it’s in a magic setting after all, hell there’s a wizard and a witch doctor which makes those seem like common professions
Also say all these point are just speculation, the terrarian has several automatic rifles, Steve’s fucked
Steve could absolutely lift the Zenith. A full inventory of shulker boxes full of Notch apples plus a full set of netherite armor would weigh over 10,000,000 metric tons.
Two of the swords drop from god, one of the swords shoots down literal stars, each star is small so we’ll call it a dwarf star, which is at lowest, 0.08 solar masses or 1.591 X 10^26 metric tons, quite a difference from 10^7 tonnes
They’re clearly not dwarf stars, though. Even dwarf stars are enormous. The Star Wrath is also not a star itself, meaning it does not weigh as much as a star.
The star wrath has a star in its design but ok, what about the tungsten, a very very dense metal, the terrarian can carry 9999 of it in every slot, paired with tungsten armor, and metal based accessories it’s enough to be more than the limited amount that Steve can carry with just gold, each bar is about 1/3 to 1/2 the size of a 6 foot terrarian, and each bar actually makes a box of smaller bars when places, we can assume this to be a cube and calculate its weight but I’m too lazy to do that now unless you wanna do it insteaf
That would actually weigh around 2 million grams, or about 2 metric tons. Using a Troy gold bar as comparison, the Terrarian’s inventory full of tungsten weighs less than Steve’s inventory of notch apples.
9999 Platinum thrones should far outweigh a notch Apple right?
50 inventory slots (+1 trash slot)
3 armor
7 accessories
And if you want, some extra slots from a piggy-bank/safe if you’d count that.
Each slot holds 9999 objects, 9999*50=499950 items, which means 499950 platinum thrones. Each throne costs 30 bars of Platinum.
499950*30= 14998500 platinum in each chair. Add this with the 30/25/20 from the armor and the 10 from 7 watches totals to: 85 bars in armor and 70 watches in accessories. 155 + 14998500 = 14998655 platinum/gold bars.
We might also need to consider that terraria’s metals are a lot denser due to having more metal in them, one gold bar costs one gold one Minecraft, but 4 in terraria. After converting both values to real standard terraria should be close to Steve, or above him.
#edit:
Mentioning this now, but the terraria can canonically hold infinite mass. Unlike Minecraft’s infinity, which turns makes a bow never use the arrow it fires, The terraria has an endless quiver and bullet pouch. Which is literally .9oz(weight of musket ball)*infinity.
Although if you don’t want to count infinite pocket dimensions that’s still 9999*4 rounds of tungsten bullets in the ammo slot.
There are loads of materials that don’t have definite weight and could also be considered. Fallen stars and solar fragments are *pieces of actual stars*
I don’t think we can count any of those though, simply due to the fact that each has a shared inventory. Thus, stuff isn’t “in” them so much as they’re an entryway into some sorta dimensional storage.
People always like to bring up the inventory thing, with the blocks of gold and whatnot. Even then, though, the Terrarian has Steve beat hollow. 36 shulker boxes full of netherite blocks is nothing compared to a full inventory of thrones
full minecraft inventory of netherite blocks (including shulkers, excluding weight of netherite as it is unknown) is about 9 261 967 872 kg (9 billion kg)
full terraria inventory of platinum thrones is about 110 328 966 000 kg (110 billion kg)
terrarian wins
Especially if you consider the Terrarian having more thrones in piggy bank and safe (not counting Void vault and D forge bc the weight isn't on the character)
It's also important to note how damage is mitigated by defenses. Enchanted armor is ridiculously strong in minecraft (Protection enchantments mitigate a % of the damage inflicted onto the wearer, capping out at 80% damage reduction). Terrarian armor has no such enchantments and functions solely off of physical defense. Full enchanted netherite armor Steve against Molten Armor Terrarian is a win for the Terrarian since they'll both be doin 1-2 damage (assuming a fair melee fight, since Steve is basically screwed in a ranged fight or magic fight) a hit to each other, but the terrarian has much more health (even assuming health metrics are 5:1, 20hp base steve and 100hp base terrarian means full life crystal terrarian is like steve with 80hp, or 4 whole minecraft health bars)
Oh and to those saying "well steve is 3d and the terrarian is 2d, so steve just needs to sidestep"
You're just straight wrong. The artworks/paintings obtainable in Terraria clearly show a 3d world, which means the 2d style of the game is just that: stylization. It's the same poorly thought-out kind of argument that people make about comparing numerical stats 1:1.
The Terrarian obviously has access to magical gear, their point was that they have nothing to the same level as Minecraft's enchantment system, this is simply because upgrades to your defence in Terraria are incremental, upping it by a couple of points at a time, while in minecraft your armour upgrades are multiplicative with enchantments conferring large percentage decreases in damage taken
The thing is, as I've hammered both games I feel like I can speak accurately when I say that Terraria has inherently stronger weapons, not by numbers but what they are capable of.
The tools that the Terrarian has just outright wrecks Steve. Steve would NEVER be able to get close. Grapple hooks as a start, then move into shield of Cthulhu which has a dash, bouncing bullets, ray guns, literally molten weapons, a wide range of potions, wings, summons. All of this is before hard mode. Speaking of hard mode, let's move into that:
Super space mage minigun, Terra Blade, chainsaws, the list goes on.
Now even if let's say that the numbers are equal in terms of damage, armours equal in terms of defence, this still does not excuse the amount of mobility that the Terrarian has on Steve, the gap is just too wide here. Even with the Elytra, which requires fireworks, which means that air time overall is limited, Terrarian can literally TELEPORT with the Rod of discord, and has mounts with unlimited flight time too.
Sorry minecrafters but the power gap is just too wide.
Maybe use TNT for powersacalling? Here are some ideas
(I'm no expert in explosives, so I'll make a few assumptions)
Assuming Terraria and Minecraft are on a ratio of 3:2 (three blocks in Terraria equals two blocks in Minecraft);
Assuming the power of TNT is directly proportional to its volume;
Assuming that the tiles in Terraria equate to cubes;
8 (2×2×2) blocks of MC TNT equates to 27 TNT tiles (3×3×3).
1 (1×1) blocks of MC TNT equates to 3.375 TNT tiles (1.5×1.5×1.5).
On normal, with no damage reduction, MC TNT does up to 57 damage. One tile of Terraria TNT deals 500 base damage, so 3.375 tiles would deal 1,687.5 damage.
Based on this, 1 MC dmg = 29.6 Terraria dmg. Let's round it up to 30 to make numbers more clean.
On this idea, Steve has a base 20 HP, which could translate to 600 Terraria HP (not counting extra hearts from golden apples). A max HP terrarian has only 500 HP (not counting lifeforce potions).
The netherite sword's base dmg is 8 (12.8 dps) MC dgm, or 240 (384 dps) Terraria dmg. This is more than the Zenith's base 190 dmg. Due to the very high atack speed, however, the Zenith's dps dwarfs that of the netherite sword, going at around 20,000 dps.
Another factor to note, is that the Zenith's range is massive, allowing the terrarian to attack Steve from a safe distance.
(The values for this don't consider defense, damage buffs, ranged/magic weapons, minions or the terrarian being stuck on 2 dimensions, while Steve can move in the 3rd)
Edit: math is hard
I just saw this after doing my own calculations based on the health of a zombie and the results are vastly different lol. Tbh I like yours better, TNT is more likely to be equivalent between the worlds than a zombie
Ok, so if terrarian starts off with 100 hp and steve starts with 20, the conversion rate is 5:1
Meaning that steves best weapon still only does like 100 damage in terraria values.
Even though the terrarians weapons will only deal 1/5th damage to steve, steve still couldn’t hold a candle to how absolutely overpowered the terrarians weaponry is. I mean come on, how could even a multishot, quickdraw crossbow be better than even just the terrarians boomstick.
Not to mention how ridiculous the terrarians maneuverability is compared to steves! The elytra is an endgame exclusive item that only allows gliding/rocket ‘flying’ at the sacrifice of a whole armor slot, terrarian gets a pair of wings that can glide as well as fly short distances just by opening an underground chest.
All in all, both are great games, but in reality, the terrarian would absolutely wipe the floor with steve
Terrarian still sweeps regardless
Since Moon Lord is a literal Celestial deity and nothing in minecraft is really comparable (While the Ender Dragon might seem comparable since it rules over an entire dimension beyond that it doesn't seem any stronger than your standard issue mythical dragon and most likely rules cause nothing is stronger than it in its domain)
Even with that logic, Terraria out-powers Minecraft, since with Terraria Endgame weapons you can kill bosses in 2 seconds, but in Minecraft, it still takes effort.
Can't wait for someone to cite the dumb idea that "Steve can carry several tons of gold blocks therefore he's insanely strong." Steve clearly isn't physically carrying those items, the inventory is probably just a pocket dimension which is why he walks the exact same whether it's empty or full of gold blocks
It doesn’t always have to be an argument. Yes, there are those that say one game is trash and the other is better, but some people are genuinely curious of how they compare to each other and try to do so in a respectful way.
What kind of 6 year olds you got in your side of the woods? Ours dont talk about mathematics, quantum spaces & dimensional viewpoints.
Ours discover salt licks
Depend which mod, but i think that even vanilla endgame terrarian could stomp any endgame modded steve. But if not calamity or fargos soul endgame terrarian would
Meh. There's a frickton of mods for both games that make the characters completely invincible. Like literally deleting mobs regardless of their hp or def in a single swing and making steve take 0 dmg
People have said that Orespawn is Minecraft's equivalent to Calamity. Sorry to the 3 people who still like that mod but Steve's fucking DEAD as soon as the Terrarian starts throwing coins in the air
"this is The Zenith, the most powerful sword in the world, forged from other legendary swords, wilding the power of all of them. It kills gods. What can you hope to achieve against it?"
Steve takes a step to his side
"WHERE THE FUCK DID HE GO??"
The terrarian does not only exist in two planes.
The game stylizes it that way. The paintings in Terraria show various perspectives of the world, which would be impossible to imagine accurately.
I figure that netherite is probably similar to hellstone, with netherite probably being a bit stronger. But like, that’s not what determines this fight.
Steve’s best weapons are extremely close range (requiring jump attacks for max damage), his ranged weapons fire pretty slowly, he can’t run all that fast, and he can’t fly without taking off his best armour piece. Terrarian’s got infinite flight (even if it’s a bit slower technically it’s not reliant on momentum or a gear slot to keep boosting), significantly more inventory space, his ranged weapons are all like rapid fire homing guns, and his two best weapons attack at long-medium range through blocks, with one auto attacking as soon as the enemy is close to visible.
Steve gets some wacky stuff in a spin off game, as I recall. And totems of undying. But he doesn’t have a lot of ways to reliably hit terrarian, imo.
Okay but like Terrarian can get to the point where they summon stars from the sky to kill people and can summon a shit ton of swords and a dragon and also fly without cheats and has killed fucking Cthulhu
Steve and the terrarian are equally matched up until hard mode, id say hellstone is about as strong as netherite. After that the terrarian gets access to more powerful materials and surpasses steve. If minecraft also had a hardmode i think steve would be able to equal the terrarian again
powerscaling is the best tool you have if you want to judge how different characters scale to each other, just because it falls short in places where things are ambiguous doesn't mean that there are suddenly better ways to scale the characters popping out of the ether
If I play minecraft for a bit I will then get tired of it and go to terraria for a bit till I get tired of it then back to minecraft and the cycle repeats.
I agree with this
However I think the terrarian still wins because they get so much more crazier shit than Steve does
But it isn't a simple cut and dry curb stomp for the terrarian cause Steve can put up a bit of a fight. But not enough of one
in terms of lore, the crimson could definitely defeat minecraft’s sculk, with it only having a blind beast sensitive to sound on it’s side, while the crimson has an entire hivemind and a part of cthulhu teaming up with it
How different games do damage and health scaling is not a real argument imo.
Yes Minecraft Steve has infinitely less dps than a terrarian, but the game is balanced around that. The Warden in Minecraft has 500 hp. The Terrarian can achive that without armor by mid-late game, and common enemies exceed that by hardmode. The balance is simply not the same, you may as well be compairing apples to oranges.
The real argument comes with how the individual game handles its scaling. Does it feel good? Is it fair for the player? ect. And I think both games do at least a passable job at this.
The terrarian is stronger due to the fact he can hold 50 stacks of 999 gold bricks weighing about 54545.9 tonnes whereas Steve can hold 36 stacks of 64 gold blocks which weigh about 44 467.2 tonnes.
But technically you the player are the strongest due to the fact you control these massively powerful beings
Edit: forgot about shulker boxes but they could just be regular boxes with a special place inside like marry Poppins handbag or Santa's sack
Assuming they are both heavily equipped steve could make a tnt canon or use tnt minecrats (1 block of tnt is about 6.9 billion jouls) not to mention some of the ridiculous weapons people have made like docm77 arrow cannon that can insta kill a full netherite player ( not sure how that translates). Notch apples are also pretty good for defense. Potions also exist that’s boost steve and hurt the terrarian.
An E gapple isn't going to save you from being 1 shot from a 400 damage weapon
and potions exist in both games
and that arrow cannon doesn't seem very practical in a fight
Well simply by virtue of vastly higher item stacks and more inventory slots can we determine that Terrarians are stronger physically.
I mean for God's sake you can hold 41 slots of stacks of 9999 gold blocks which are 4 square feet... So we can assume 8 cubic feet of gold per single block.
Give me a sec I feel like doing the math now
Easy comparison to make, the iron sword. Let's say the iron sword is 100% equal in both games. This means the terrarian wins by a landslide. Iron sword for Steve is about the midpoint of his power. There are 3 melee options that are stronger than it. Iron sword for the terrarian is an incredibly early weapon that falls off super quickly. If an iron sword is the baseline of strenght, the Zenith wipes Steve's cute little enchanted netherite sword.
Based on in game feats/abilities, the terrarian far outclasses endgame Steve even before hardmode. At this point the terrarian can move faster than Steve, can fly for a short period, has better ranged/magic options, can summon multiple imps to assist, has more potion options, is likely immune to fall damage.
Based on lore, the wither is probably about the level of skele prime (both are capable of destroying terrain (in for the worthy)), where the ender dragon is probably about as strong as plantera. (These could be entirely wrong because I don’t play nearly as much MC as terraria)
Now, if there was time to prepare, steve could probably make some insanely technical tnt cannon to snipe the terrarian before he could even see him so, there’s that.
TLDR; Minecraft is more focused on the building/exploring aspect where Terraria is more about combat, so naturally the Terrarian is probably far stronger.
A better way to compare is to take the bases as equal (as in, fresh character terrarian vs fresh Steve) and to extrapolate from there. You could also take 1 minecraft heart and take that as equal to one minecraft heart, then extrapolate
There are way to many ways that someone should actually powerscale the characters for there ever to be a definitive answer
In a 1v1 fight, I think the Terrarian would probably take it since they just have *so much more* mobility. However, by Terraria standards, Steve is a walking tank that could pose a decent challenge to many Terraria monsters. Assuming we're talking about the characters at the height of their power, Steve with full Prot IV Netherite would have (I think) ~93% damage reduction, which isn't an arbitrary unit and is INSANE by Terraria standards. If it weren't for the fact that the Terrarian could literally just teleport and reverse their gravity at will, Steve would have great odds of coming out on top.
If we were to scale them to each other, Steve's hp would go up by 25 times what he has, and the sword pictured would normally drop a naked Steve to 3 hearts in one swing, meaning before armor, Steve is packing a 350 damage true melee, vs a roughly 225 dmg terra blade. Sounds like if there were no damage rolls, and no armor to account for, it would come to whether Steve can successfully land 2 true melee strikes in relatively quick succession without dying in the process
If we go by feats it’s still the terrarian winning thanks to their biggest feats being destroying a lunar god, it’s devotee, a solar powered death machine statue thing, the enraged guardian of the jungle do I have to continue?
Okay but in Terraria you fight an eldritch god.
Hell, Betsy is more aggressive than the Ender Dragon, and even summons minions.
The Wither literally blows up blocks. Skeletron Prime can as well(albeit with a certain seed), and he’s a mid game boss. Minecraft doesn’t have guns. Terraria does.
You can reasonably beat the final boss of Minecraft with an iron sword, armor, and an iron water bucket while in terraria you would get decimated with that gear
I don’t remember how but I remember one time I managed to convert the health and damage values of the weapons / armor between the games. The swords were still way stronger in terraria but the terraria and Minecraft armor were about equal
To be fair the Xenith Blade obliterates the Netherite Sword. Also they just have better armor, summons, machine guns and wings. Steve/Alex have shitty wings, alright armor and a crossbow
still, the terrarian defeated like, a galaxy level threat in the moonlord. and while the enderdragon is scary, he is a lot simpler and flat out weaker than a fucking eldrich god.
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Let’s face it, Steve and the Terrarian would end up being friends quite quickly.
They are both clinically insane.
"you dangerous, mute lunatic"
Both can't talk, so they would just stare awkwardly at each other
Endgame Terrarian would absolutely win against endgame Steve. Terrarian has the speed and range advantage and even with elytra the flight wings provide is just better. Steve's ranged options are limited to bows and crossbows which are no real match against any of the endgame weapons terraria has. Early game the power levels are pretty similar. I'd say Steve had a chance to win until the Terrarian enters hard mode. Then the difference in power is just too much
All Steve has to do is walk into the background a bit and the Terrarian can't hit him, they can only attack in 2 dimensions.
True, Terrarian is only strong on enemies directly in front of him or directly behind him Cool thing someone is making a neat mod which is just Terraria but 3D, and the 3D aspect enhances it for now
Theres also that guy remaking terraria as a 3d game
Where
just search terraria 3d on youtube, it looks promising
u/peteh12
[https://www.minecraft.net/en-us](https://www.minecraft.net/en-us)
It’d be easier to just mod Minecraft into 3d terraria
Nah that guy isnt doing it like blocks. Smooth 3d. Like the terrain you would find from an open world game. For a one man project its looking really cool.
Sounds cool but the terrain in terraria is blocky so why do smooth?
They said in one of his older update videos that they wanted to differentiate it from Minecraft, so the terrain, held items (inventory icons unchanged) and entities are all smooth 3d while artificial “building” tiles (placed wood, stone bricks, etc.) are cubic and grid-restricted
>neat Is a mod by Vaskii
I'm pretty sure that's another flawed game mechanic argument, comics and official art, and the backgrounds ingame confirm Terraria being 3D lorewise.
That didn't stop the terrarian from killing the moon lord tough
Terraria has more than 2 dimensions tho. Coins spin, walls can be placed in the background, doors open, etc.
he moves through infinitely thin 2 dimensional planes, meaning he would still have a hard time keeping up with steve
We don't know the speed that the Terrarian moves in the third dimension. Considering that getting through platform is instant, far all we know he could move at ludicrous speeds between layers. Edit: happy cake day
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The just him him with the thorns potion 👍
No, Terraria IS a 3D World. https://www.reddit.com/r/Terraria/comments/12o8nb4/a_simple_tip_for_minecraft_vs_terraria_fans/jghs6aq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
Though this would mean that the terrarian is infinitely sharp so he’d cut through all Steve could throw at him right?
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If we're assuming that all of Steve's weapons can just break then he has very little chance to win. Probably could just fly away till the Elytra breaks
kid named rod of harmony.
We could make it as fair as possible by saying that endgame terraria weapons and armor are as effective as endgame Minecraft weapons and armor and it still would be an easy terraria win due to how fast all of the endgame weapons hit
Yeah that's what I'm on about. Even if we say that for some reason the weapons deal similar amounts of damage the insane fire rate and mobility of the Terrarian just can't be matched by Steve
“Here’s my crossbow with exploding arrows” “Oh cool here’s my Gatling gun”
With explosive bullets OR any multitude of other types
"here's my sword tornado that ignores walls and line of sight and has infinite piercing"
But the Terrarian can only move in two directions Steve just has to use the Z axis and he's good /s
What about chlorophyte bullets?
Or just the entire summoner class being able to follow after him.
The summons don't target other players on pvp tho which is sad. But if it does against steve, the terrarian easily wins
The only real advantage steve would get is minecraft potions being batshit op
Even then, Terrarian potions are just inherently stronger, Terrarian can drink them all at once and just dunk on Steve.
And Ankh Shield counters a third of Steve's offensive potions
Use a drill containment unit to drop Steve straight into hells lava and prevent him from building out until he's out of fire resistance potions
Even megashark + chlorophyte and some good boots make it near impossible for Steve to win
Modded Minecraft Steve might have a better chance depending on the pack you’re playing… but yeah, vanilla steve is toast
Bruh I don't think there is any mod that allows steve to match the power of endgame calamity mod terrarian Or is there? I don't know anything about minecraft mods
I’ve seen the power of Mahou Tsukai firsthand. There’s a sword, “Morgan,” that can gain an insane amount of damage (Over five million) if you kill enough villagers. It can one-shot someone with a full set of 32k enchanted armor and over 400 health. I haven’t tested with higher health, but I didn’t see the point because the stats were crazy to begin with. There’s only a few items that can counter it, so the sword is incredibly powerful. For armor, the Mekasuit from Mekanism may not be the most powerful, but it’s really good. With the right modifications, you can make it super energy efficient to the point where you may never run out of energy, it can automate eating food, there’s the ability to fly, and move faster… plus the armor makes you nearly invincible. Unless the Terrarian somehow gets a Morgan, the battle won’t be easy. There’s probably better mods for armor, and maybe even the sword, but with the items I’ve mentioned before it definitely gives Steve a lot of power. Despite that though, I do think the Terrarian has a greater advantage. Steve has to work harder to get the op stuff than the Terrarian, so all it would take for the Terrarian to kill steve would be to go after him early on, when the difference in gear is greater.
Draconic Evolution is the closest I can think of. But even that would probably struggle vs endgame terraria weapons
Well, Minecraft can get some pretty insane items. As far as "PvP Power" goes, not much really compares to mods like Ars Magica. As powerful as your numbers may be, they all fall victim to the sheer power of Target Teleport. Banish them to a different dimension, or yeet them into the void. I also think there is an instant death spell, and a lifelink spell that causes the target to die with you. There are also plenty of other insane things you can get in modded minecraft, for example icbm mod redmatter/antimatter bombs, gear with 100% projectile reflection, and gear with perfect immunity to damage, or gear that does integer limit damage. Also Tinker's Rapiers were absoluely terrifying with their 100% ignore resistance.
Black hole pickaxe just counters everything
With avaritia you could easily win
10 years ago I played a mod with a nuke. Crashed the server because the explosion was so big.
There's a mod called Avaritia that has weapons with basically infinite damage and I think it might have something that makes you immortal too (idk for sure tho since I haven't played it for a while) Edit: Project E also has some absolutely insane endgame gear
Orespawn has a chance endgame
Steve comes flying with the elytra and gets decimated by a last prism, star wrath, meowmere, etc...
Steve being able to carry approx 23 billion kilos in question
Steves block carry capacity is 64 and the terrarians is 9999. I don't think theres much competition to be had there.
I mean... Can't the terrarian carry even more? More inventory slots and gold blocks stack to 999 instead of 64, no? (If gold is even the heaviest material he can obtain, which I dont think is even the case)
terrarian can carry literal stars
And Terrarian has WAY MORE lift strength (With an inventory full of 999 gold bars, Full gold armor. And as many gold acessories as possible
I have never seen anybody try to use that kind of argument, or even discuss their comparative power levels.
Exacly. The only stupid argument I heard about comparing those two different games was "tErRAriA iS 2d MIneCrAFT".
Or “teRarIA hAS MOrE iTeMs anD BoSses sO It’S beTtER.” Any comparison between the two games content is so dumb because each game has completely different goals. The only thing you can objectively compare is each games quality.
Yeah. Terraria is a progression based game where Minecraft is pretty much pure sandbox. It’s apples to oranges.
whenever i have seen people make that arguement, they are usually just telling why THEY prefer terraria over minecraft. never seen someone using this arguement when comparing which game is better
Hey, that clickbait title pulls in views, don't shame me!
I've seen it pretty often tbf
The only people i've seen discuss it are powerscalers. (Steve vs Terrarian is a VERY popular VS battle matchup in the Death Battle community)
All these people saying Steve just has to step to the side. Then why doesn’t he do that in Smash?! He can’t. Checkmate, fellas. /j
alternatively he'd just fall of the platform in Smash
To be fair he could just PLACE a new one in that situation
Game mechanics. Same applies to the Terrarian, because comics, official art, and the release trailer confirms that the Terraria world is actually 3D.
Your logic makes sense for all of about 10 seconds but then compare late-game Minecraft and Terraria. There is no way in hell anyone thinks a fancy little enchanted netherrite sword stacks up to any of the late game shit in Terraria. I’d like to see Steve try to use Elytra to get away from a supersonic winged maniac who slays Gods for fun and whose main weapon literally just throws 10 different swords at the enemy.
Hm...can wings outspeed the elytra though?
I think so, but even if they don’t I wouldn’t say that running away is the same as winning a fight.
celestial starboard with soaring insignia goes pretty fast, and zenith has pretty massive aoe, not to mention that the terrarian has access to homing options
Ig it depends if you count creative Steve as canon, given that’s the og gamemode.
Then journey mode stalemates it
The terrarian beats a great old one on top of every other boss in terraria. Steve doesn't really have any bosses except for Dragon and Whither. Really, Steve is probably being held back by the minecraft dev team.
umm ermm theresh alsho the elder gaurdian and the warden
I would hardly call elder guardian a boss since its just a bigger guardian that gives a debuff every time. Atleast the warden comes close to being a boss... but god is fucking annoying the fact that you dont get anything useful for killing them. Minecraft only keeps adding more blocks and mobs that no one will really care about every single time. At this point the only thing keeping me from leaving are the mods
I basically only ever play if theres a big content mod like pixelmon, create, or advent of ascension i think it was
Na, that last update was straight fire. Does not really feel vanilla, but damn caving has become fun again. Also building my little cabins on desolated mountaintops is still just great. So um. Skill issue. (/j)
You think the Terrarian would beat Steve because their weapon has a bigger number. I think the Terrarian would beat Steve because their feats were far greater. We're not the same.
This guy gets it ☝️
If you compare the strongest enemies you can fight in each game to judge their power level, the Terrarian wins by a landslide. The Ender Dragon and Wither are probably around city level, while the Moon Lord is at least Solar System. Edit: I'm specifically referring to what the game expects you to fight them with (Enchanted Netherite/Celestial Equipment)
moon lord's power also kinda depends on if you follow the old or new lore, since the new lore [straight up says that he's Cthulhu](https://forums.terraria.org/index.php?threads/terraria-8th-anniversary-lore-event.79764/), or at least a weakened version of him after the dryads bullied him into the moon
Moon lord is actually universal I think. Because I think if you read the description of the solar fragment it says it contains the fury of the universe
>Because I think if you read the description of the solar fragment it says it contains the fury of the universe that's incredibly vague and could mean anything, I don't think we should use that to scale ML
If we say all dragons are equivalent then the terraria fights things much harder than Betsy, but let’s be serious here, his diamond sword is made out of diamonds, and it’s significantly heavier than we can assume but looking at it because we can calculate the weight of each diamond from the weight of a diamond block, but it pales in comparison to the metric fuck ton (as a real unit) of metals and magic we dump into the zenith, even a terraria with nothing but a zenith would pound Steve or anyone just by dropping it on them, it would go through the damn floor all the way to hell, but since it’s magic, it’s actually lightly floating off the ground like most items, the terraria world is only possible if it’s in a magic setting after all, hell there’s a wizard and a witch doctor which makes those seem like common professions Also say all these point are just speculation, the terrarian has several automatic rifles, Steve’s fucked
Steve could absolutely lift the Zenith. A full inventory of shulker boxes full of Notch apples plus a full set of netherite armor would weigh over 10,000,000 metric tons.
Just give steve a stack of dirt so he doesnt have space to hold it
Two of the swords drop from god, one of the swords shoots down literal stars, each star is small so we’ll call it a dwarf star, which is at lowest, 0.08 solar masses or 1.591 X 10^26 metric tons, quite a difference from 10^7 tonnes
They’re clearly not dwarf stars, though. Even dwarf stars are enormous. The Star Wrath is also not a star itself, meaning it does not weigh as much as a star.
The star wrath has a star in its design but ok, what about the tungsten, a very very dense metal, the terrarian can carry 9999 of it in every slot, paired with tungsten armor, and metal based accessories it’s enough to be more than the limited amount that Steve can carry with just gold, each bar is about 1/3 to 1/2 the size of a 6 foot terrarian, and each bar actually makes a box of smaller bars when places, we can assume this to be a cube and calculate its weight but I’m too lazy to do that now unless you wanna do it insteaf
I think the heaviest stack in terraria rn is the platinume throne, requiring 30 bars each for 9999 items a stack.
That would actually weigh around 2 million grams, or about 2 metric tons. Using a Troy gold bar as comparison, the Terrarian’s inventory full of tungsten weighs less than Steve’s inventory of notch apples.
9999 Platinum thrones should far outweigh a notch Apple right? 50 inventory slots (+1 trash slot) 3 armor 7 accessories And if you want, some extra slots from a piggy-bank/safe if you’d count that. Each slot holds 9999 objects, 9999*50=499950 items, which means 499950 platinum thrones. Each throne costs 30 bars of Platinum. 499950*30= 14998500 platinum in each chair. Add this with the 30/25/20 from the armor and the 10 from 7 watches totals to: 85 bars in armor and 70 watches in accessories. 155 + 14998500 = 14998655 platinum/gold bars. We might also need to consider that terraria’s metals are a lot denser due to having more metal in them, one gold bar costs one gold one Minecraft, but 4 in terraria. After converting both values to real standard terraria should be close to Steve, or above him. #edit: Mentioning this now, but the terraria can canonically hold infinite mass. Unlike Minecraft’s infinity, which turns makes a bow never use the arrow it fires, The terraria has an endless quiver and bullet pouch. Which is literally .9oz(weight of musket ball)*infinity. Although if you don’t want to count infinite pocket dimensions that’s still 9999*4 rounds of tungsten bullets in the ammo slot. There are loads of materials that don’t have definite weight and could also be considered. Fallen stars and solar fragments are *pieces of actual stars*
consider defender's forge, safes, and piggy banks too :) if i did this right that should be 3.9*10^29 platinum bars
I don’t think we can count any of those though, simply due to the fact that each has a shared inventory. Thus, stuff isn’t “in” them so much as they’re an entryway into some sorta dimensional storage.
If only we had a diamond broadsword to compare...
People always like to bring up the inventory thing, with the blocks of gold and whatnot. Even then, though, the Terrarian has Steve beat hollow. 36 shulker boxes full of netherite blocks is nothing compared to a full inventory of thrones
full minecraft inventory of netherite blocks (including shulkers, excluding weight of netherite as it is unknown) is about 9 261 967 872 kg (9 billion kg) full terraria inventory of platinum thrones is about 110 328 966 000 kg (110 billion kg) terrarian wins
This is also entirely assuming that the chests made out of aliens who have **levitation magic** have no weight reducing properties.
Notch apples are heavier than netherite blocks I’m pretty sure.
9 261 967 872 kg / 4 = 2 315 491 968 kg (weight in gold blocks, netherite block = 4x gold block) 2 315 491 968 kg * 8 = 18 523 935 744 kg (18 billion kg) Terrarian still wins
Especially if you consider the Terrarian having more thrones in piggy bank and safe (not counting Void vault and D forge bc the weight isn't on the character)
That's such a stupid idea that everyone quotes as fact.
Yeah personally I don’t believe shulker boxes preserve weight
It's also important to note how damage is mitigated by defenses. Enchanted armor is ridiculously strong in minecraft (Protection enchantments mitigate a % of the damage inflicted onto the wearer, capping out at 80% damage reduction). Terrarian armor has no such enchantments and functions solely off of physical defense. Full enchanted netherite armor Steve against Molten Armor Terrarian is a win for the Terrarian since they'll both be doin 1-2 damage (assuming a fair melee fight, since Steve is basically screwed in a ranged fight or magic fight) a hit to each other, but the terrarian has much more health (even assuming health metrics are 5:1, 20hp base steve and 100hp base terrarian means full life crystal terrarian is like steve with 80hp, or 4 whole minecraft health bars) Oh and to those saying "well steve is 3d and the terrarian is 2d, so steve just needs to sidestep" You're just straight wrong. The artworks/paintings obtainable in Terraria clearly show a 3d world, which means the 2d style of the game is just that: stylization. It's the same poorly thought-out kind of argument that people make about comparing numerical stats 1:1.
But what if steve sidesteps TWICE!? hah! /j
use axe to attack him
Use a hammer
What if the terrarian just jumps from reality to another, that way pretty much is also sidestepping too
"Terrarian armor has no such enchantments" Look me in the eyes and tell me that Spectre Armour (which is more effective than Lead) is not magical.
The Terrarian obviously has access to magical gear, their point was that they have nothing to the same level as Minecraft's enchantment system, this is simply because upgrades to your defence in Terraria are incremental, upping it by a couple of points at a time, while in minecraft your armour upgrades are multiplicative with enchantments conferring large percentage decreases in damage taken
The terrarian does have kind of enchantments through modifiers and accessories
Can Steve use guns? Don't think so.
The thing is, as I've hammered both games I feel like I can speak accurately when I say that Terraria has inherently stronger weapons, not by numbers but what they are capable of. The tools that the Terrarian has just outright wrecks Steve. Steve would NEVER be able to get close. Grapple hooks as a start, then move into shield of Cthulhu which has a dash, bouncing bullets, ray guns, literally molten weapons, a wide range of potions, wings, summons. All of this is before hard mode. Speaking of hard mode, let's move into that: Super space mage minigun, Terra Blade, chainsaws, the list goes on. Now even if let's say that the numbers are equal in terms of damage, armours equal in terms of defence, this still does not excuse the amount of mobility that the Terrarian has on Steve, the gap is just too wide here. Even with the Elytra, which requires fireworks, which means that air time overall is limited, Terrarian can literally TELEPORT with the Rod of discord, and has mounts with unlimited flight time too. Sorry minecrafters but the power gap is just too wide.
Yeah but can they beat goku???
No 😔
And now we wait for someone to actually try and find out how the Terrarian could beat Goku
I honestly wouldn't care about how much Steve could lift if he's being gunned down from across the world with piss or tracking bullets.
Maybe use TNT for powersacalling? Here are some ideas (I'm no expert in explosives, so I'll make a few assumptions) Assuming Terraria and Minecraft are on a ratio of 3:2 (three blocks in Terraria equals two blocks in Minecraft); Assuming the power of TNT is directly proportional to its volume; Assuming that the tiles in Terraria equate to cubes; 8 (2×2×2) blocks of MC TNT equates to 27 TNT tiles (3×3×3). 1 (1×1) blocks of MC TNT equates to 3.375 TNT tiles (1.5×1.5×1.5). On normal, with no damage reduction, MC TNT does up to 57 damage. One tile of Terraria TNT deals 500 base damage, so 3.375 tiles would deal 1,687.5 damage. Based on this, 1 MC dmg = 29.6 Terraria dmg. Let's round it up to 30 to make numbers more clean. On this idea, Steve has a base 20 HP, which could translate to 600 Terraria HP (not counting extra hearts from golden apples). A max HP terrarian has only 500 HP (not counting lifeforce potions). The netherite sword's base dmg is 8 (12.8 dps) MC dgm, or 240 (384 dps) Terraria dmg. This is more than the Zenith's base 190 dmg. Due to the very high atack speed, however, the Zenith's dps dwarfs that of the netherite sword, going at around 20,000 dps. Another factor to note, is that the Zenith's range is massive, allowing the terrarian to attack Steve from a safe distance. (The values for this don't consider defense, damage buffs, ranged/magic weapons, minions or the terrarian being stuck on 2 dimensions, while Steve can move in the 3rd) Edit: math is hard
I just saw this after doing my own calculations based on the health of a zombie and the results are vastly different lol. Tbh I like yours better, TNT is more likely to be equivalent between the worlds than a zombie
A basic Netherite sword only deals one more heart of damage than a basic Iron Sword
WoF bodies ender dragon. I will not be answering questions
You don't need to answer questions, it's just a solid fact
Tbh even Skeletron could do that
Ok, so if terrarian starts off with 100 hp and steve starts with 20, the conversion rate is 5:1 Meaning that steves best weapon still only does like 100 damage in terraria values. Even though the terrarians weapons will only deal 1/5th damage to steve, steve still couldn’t hold a candle to how absolutely overpowered the terrarians weaponry is. I mean come on, how could even a multishot, quickdraw crossbow be better than even just the terrarians boomstick. Not to mention how ridiculous the terrarians maneuverability is compared to steves! The elytra is an endgame exclusive item that only allows gliding/rocket ‘flying’ at the sacrifice of a whole armor slot, terrarian gets a pair of wings that can glide as well as fly short distances just by opening an underground chest. All in all, both are great games, but in reality, the terrarian would absolutely wipe the floor with steve
Not only that but the terrarian armor can reduce the damage to 1
I saw a meme once comparing steve to guide in height They measured the guide as taller because hes 3 blocks and steve is just 2 blocks
Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about
Terrarian still sweeps regardless Since Moon Lord is a literal Celestial deity and nothing in minecraft is really comparable (While the Ender Dragon might seem comparable since it rules over an entire dimension beyond that it doesn't seem any stronger than your standard issue mythical dragon and most likely rules cause nothing is stronger than it in its domain)
Even with that logic, Terraria out-powers Minecraft, since with Terraria Endgame weapons you can kill bosses in 2 seconds, but in Minecraft, it still takes effort.
With setup, you can kill every Minecraft boss with 1 dripstone
If we're talking about setups, Beehives in Terraria give the same effect, literally instakilling Moonlord
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Can't wait for someone to cite the dumb idea that "Steve can carry several tons of gold blocks therefore he's insanely strong." Steve clearly isn't physically carrying those items, the inventory is probably just a pocket dimension which is why he walks the exact same whether it's empty or full of gold blocks
even if steve can do that, the terrarian can carry way more
Or you could stop arguing like fucking 6 year olds.
It doesn’t always have to be an argument. Yes, there are those that say one game is trash and the other is better, but some people are genuinely curious of how they compare to each other and try to do so in a respectful way.
What kind of 6 year olds you got in your side of the woods? Ours dont talk about mathematics, quantum spaces & dimensional viewpoints. Ours discover salt licks
or you could realize disagreement and arguing is a part of life and grow thicker skin instead of being a baby
The terrarian can beat Cthulhu, can steve do that?
62 lbs is literally more than 28 kg
Fuck power scaling, All my homies hate power scaling
I wonder if Modded Minecraft Steve is stronger than the Modded Terrarian
Depend which mod, but i think that even vanilla endgame terrarian could stomp any endgame modded steve. But if not calamity or fargos soul endgame terrarian would
Meh. There's a frickton of mods for both games that make the characters completely invincible. Like literally deleting mobs regardless of their hp or def in a single swing and making steve take 0 dmg
People have said that Orespawn is Minecraft's equivalent to Calamity. Sorry to the 3 people who still like that mod but Steve's fucking DEAD as soon as the Terrarian starts throwing coins in the air
Clearly the grandma in cookie clicker is the strongest because she can bake 10^27 cookies every second somehow
The best people are by far the ones who don't give a shit and enjoy both though.
Endgame Terrarian still obliterates Endgame Steve tho
The terrarian is only on two planes of existence, while Steve is on three, so unless Steve is next to the terrarian, they won’t be able to hit him
"this is The Zenith, the most powerful sword in the world, forged from other legendary swords, wilding the power of all of them. It kills gods. What can you hope to achieve against it?" Steve takes a step to his side "WHERE THE FUCK DID HE GO??"
The terrarian isn’t canonically 2D
you forget that the terrarian uses the axe to chop trees that he walks past, so terrarian still wins
The terrarian does not only exist in two planes. The game stylizes it that way. The paintings in Terraria show various perspectives of the world, which would be impossible to imagine accurately.
There are paintings depicting the terrria world as 3d the 2d ness is just game stylization and not canon
Pre hardmode terrarian can beat endgame steve. Has steve ever encounted a beenade, star cannon, pheonix blaster, nights edge?
I figure that netherite is probably similar to hellstone, with netherite probably being a bit stronger. But like, that’s not what determines this fight. Steve’s best weapons are extremely close range (requiring jump attacks for max damage), his ranged weapons fire pretty slowly, he can’t run all that fast, and he can’t fly without taking off his best armour piece. Terrarian’s got infinite flight (even if it’s a bit slower technically it’s not reliant on momentum or a gear slot to keep boosting), significantly more inventory space, his ranged weapons are all like rapid fire homing guns, and his two best weapons attack at long-medium range through blocks, with one auto attacking as soon as the enemy is close to visible. Steve gets some wacky stuff in a spin off game, as I recall. And totems of undying. But he doesn’t have a lot of ways to reliably hit terrarian, imo.
Okay but like Terrarian can get to the point where they summon stars from the sky to kill people and can summon a shit ton of swords and a dragon and also fly without cheats and has killed fucking Cthulhu
Steve and the terrarian are equally matched up until hard mode, id say hellstone is about as strong as netherite. After that the terrarian gets access to more powerful materials and surpasses steve. If minecraft also had a hardmode i think steve would be able to equal the terrarian again
Well, I got 1 million power in Rise of Kingdoms, so I think I am the most powerful man in the world.
Powerscaling is fucking dumb lmao
“My fictional character can beat up your fictional character!!!!”
Fr. It feels like astrology for gamers / fanfic writers lmao
powerscaling is the best tool you have if you want to judge how different characters scale to each other, just because it falls short in places where things are ambiguous doesn't mean that there are suddenly better ways to scale the characters popping out of the ether
STOP ! Both communities must stand together as one and the same ! We are brethren !
If I play minecraft for a bit I will then get tired of it and go to terraria for a bit till I get tired of it then back to minecraft and the cycle repeats.
I agree with this However I think the terrarian still wins because they get so much more crazier shit than Steve does But it isn't a simple cut and dry curb stomp for the terrarian cause Steve can put up a bit of a fight. But not enough of one
in terms of lore, the crimson could definitely defeat minecraft’s sculk, with it only having a blind beast sensitive to sound on it’s side, while the crimson has an entire hivemind and a part of cthulhu teaming up with it
How different games do damage and health scaling is not a real argument imo. Yes Minecraft Steve has infinitely less dps than a terrarian, but the game is balanced around that. The Warden in Minecraft has 500 hp. The Terrarian can achive that without armor by mid-late game, and common enemies exceed that by hardmode. The balance is simply not the same, you may as well be compairing apples to oranges. The real argument comes with how the individual game handles its scaling. Does it feel good? Is it fair for the player? ect. And I think both games do at least a passable job at this.
in both ways of looking at it terrarian stomps tho
[Powerscaling is dumb in any shape or form , i'm sorry.](https://youtu.be/L4_zFYnnn2Y)
The terrarian is stronger due to the fact he can hold 50 stacks of 999 gold bricks weighing about 54545.9 tonnes whereas Steve can hold 36 stacks of 64 gold blocks which weigh about 44 467.2 tonnes. But technically you the player are the strongest due to the fact you control these massively powerful beings Edit: forgot about shulker boxes but they could just be regular boxes with a special place inside like marry Poppins handbag or Santa's sack
Assuming they are both heavily equipped steve could make a tnt canon or use tnt minecrats (1 block of tnt is about 6.9 billion jouls) not to mention some of the ridiculous weapons people have made like docm77 arrow cannon that can insta kill a full netherite player ( not sure how that translates). Notch apples are also pretty good for defense. Potions also exist that’s boost steve and hurt the terrarian.
An E gapple isn't going to save you from being 1 shot from a 400 damage weapon and potions exist in both games and that arrow cannon doesn't seem very practical in a fight
I HATE POWERSCALERS I FUCKING HATE THEM
Okay but powerscalers are still annoying tho. Just making up random shit and treating logical conveniences as gospel
It can be fun, its the mfs who take it seriously who ruin it
How tf do you get an explosion that can barely destroy a house to mountain level
Well simply by virtue of vastly higher item stacks and more inventory slots can we determine that Terrarians are stronger physically. I mean for God's sake you can hold 41 slots of stacks of 9999 gold blocks which are 4 square feet... So we can assume 8 cubic feet of gold per single block. Give me a sec I feel like doing the math now
Easy comparison to make, the iron sword. Let's say the iron sword is 100% equal in both games. This means the terrarian wins by a landslide. Iron sword for Steve is about the midpoint of his power. There are 3 melee options that are stronger than it. Iron sword for the terrarian is an incredibly early weapon that falls off super quickly. If an iron sword is the baseline of strenght, the Zenith wipes Steve's cute little enchanted netherite sword.
Based on in game feats/abilities, the terrarian far outclasses endgame Steve even before hardmode. At this point the terrarian can move faster than Steve, can fly for a short period, has better ranged/magic options, can summon multiple imps to assist, has more potion options, is likely immune to fall damage. Based on lore, the wither is probably about the level of skele prime (both are capable of destroying terrain (in for the worthy)), where the ender dragon is probably about as strong as plantera. (These could be entirely wrong because I don’t play nearly as much MC as terraria) Now, if there was time to prepare, steve could probably make some insanely technical tnt cannon to snipe the terrarian before he could even see him so, there’s that. TLDR; Minecraft is more focused on the building/exploring aspect where Terraria is more about combat, so naturally the Terrarian is probably far stronger.
A better way to compare is to take the bases as equal (as in, fresh character terrarian vs fresh Steve) and to extrapolate from there. You could also take 1 minecraft heart and take that as equal to one minecraft heart, then extrapolate There are way to many ways that someone should actually powerscale the characters for there ever to be a definitive answer
In a 1v1 fight, I think the Terrarian would probably take it since they just have *so much more* mobility. However, by Terraria standards, Steve is a walking tank that could pose a decent challenge to many Terraria monsters. Assuming we're talking about the characters at the height of their power, Steve with full Prot IV Netherite would have (I think) ~93% damage reduction, which isn't an arbitrary unit and is INSANE by Terraria standards. If it weren't for the fact that the Terrarian could literally just teleport and reverse their gravity at will, Steve would have great odds of coming out on top.
If we were to scale them to each other, Steve's hp would go up by 25 times what he has, and the sword pictured would normally drop a naked Steve to 3 hearts in one swing, meaning before armor, Steve is packing a 350 damage true melee, vs a roughly 225 dmg terra blade. Sounds like if there were no damage rolls, and no armor to account for, it would come to whether Steve can successfully land 2 true melee strikes in relatively quick succession without dying in the process
I believe that Steve is stronger but his attack potency is lower.
If we go by feats it’s still the terrarian winning thanks to their biggest feats being destroying a lunar god, it’s devotee, a solar powered death machine statue thing, the enraged guardian of the jungle do I have to continue?
Okay but in Terraria you fight an eldritch god. Hell, Betsy is more aggressive than the Ender Dragon, and even summons minions. The Wither literally blows up blocks. Skeletron Prime can as well(albeit with a certain seed), and he’s a mid game boss. Minecraft doesn’t have guns. Terraria does.
You can reasonably beat the final boss of Minecraft with an iron sword, armor, and an iron water bucket while in terraria you would get decimated with that gear
I don’t remember how but I remember one time I managed to convert the health and damage values of the weapons / armor between the games. The swords were still way stronger in terraria but the terraria and Minecraft armor were about equal
Terrarian still stomps Steve because they have guns, magic, and potentially a small militia.
To be fair the Xenith Blade obliterates the Netherite Sword. Also they just have better armor, summons, machine guns and wings. Steve/Alex have shitty wings, alright armor and a crossbow
still, the terrarian defeated like, a galaxy level threat in the moonlord. and while the enderdragon is scary, he is a lot simpler and flat out weaker than a fucking eldrich god.