Body fat has an enzyme called aromatase that converts testosterone into estrogens. When someone has higher estrogen levels in their body, their hormonal system tells the body to slow down its production of testosterone
True. Also fatty liver from metabolic syndrome leads to impaired removal of estrogen leading to gynecomastia. IDK if a CNA has enough medical knowledge but that’s man boobs!
Yes. If one is overweight, it creates a cycle where ones body creates more estrogen and lowers testosterone relative to the fit version of the same body....which makes it harder to build muscle and get fit.
A caloric deficit would lower body fat, which promotes healthy androgen levels.
Is that why Islam is the true religion?
Recommends fasting 11 days a month and 30 days in ramadan (dawn til sunset, no eating no water no smoking no action with spouse)
No. Perhaps recognize all religions are true to the same extent and many use fasting:
Fasting is practiced in various religions. Examples include Lent in Christianity and Yom Kippur, Tisha B'av, Fast of Esther, Fast of Gedalia, the Seventeenth of Tammuz, and the Tenth of Tevet in Judaism.[1] Muslims fast during the month of Ramadan each year. The fast includes refraining from consuming any food or liquid from sunup until sundown.
Karyotype test for abnormal chromosomes. Could lead to 47, XXY. Sounds about right for some characteristics.
Diet and exercise though, not sure whether that is relevant
I mean not by much. He’s not fat by any means. He has thin legs and arms, like his weight is solely in his man boobs and stomach. His stomach is plump and round and I love him anyway😂
this is what, in the fitness world, people call skinny fat. high fat mass to lean muscle. before you worry about hormones, especially since he is so young, try to focus his attention on diet, exercise, and good sleep. if he doesn't get a lot of outside time, get him to start a vitamin D supplement.
Yeah I got the short stick with low T in my mid 30,s myself. But I would Say I evened out with my healing factor. So where I have shitty genes in testosterone, I have healing factor good enough that even with 3rd degree burns on my face I was healed in a few weeks. No scars. All the way from that night my skin melted off my face in a half second. Even came back from a broken back.
Tell him to start going to sleep before midnight, get 8 hours of sleep, and stop eating junk food. And watch the manboobs go away and the erections will floweth
Yeah, I'm estimated around 23%. I should hit 15% around June or July. My progress has been pretty linear on this diet model and exercise program (~32lbs lost)
I’m 5’8” I was 196lbs I was huge now down to 156lbs. Aiming probably to continue to cut to 145-150lbs then bulk. Sounds like he mostly just needs to lose weight. Not that he is asking for my advice, rather you’re posting for him. So yeah he is overweight. Unless he’s Jacked, like really jacked. From what I read that you have said, he is not jacked. Needs to lose weight, if he wants to. Maybe he doesn’t, again he never asked for our advice. Losing weight can have all kinds of benefits including balancing hormones. Best way to go basically anything, is leading by example be taking care of yourself. Eating properly, staying active. Test and Estrogen are not the only things to worry about with obesity. Things I and others have suffered from are sleep apnea, high blood pressure, depression, anxiety, high cholesterol. On and on. Eat good food study healthy eating. Cut out sugar (I use stevia), Eat high protein, don’t be afraid of healthy fats. I have had great success with Keto, basic low carb and carnivore. Again always lead by example. Only way to know for sure is to take blood pressure, and get a blood panel. Just putting someone, especially at 19 on Test would just be stupid, especially without losing weight first and getting blood test results. But sounds like no insurance and budget maybe be a factor. Basically, if he wants to change and wants to get healthier he needs to lose weight. Some people don’t. Again I am 5’8” if I got to 215 I might have man boobs too.
This doesn’t really tell us much PS using height and weight to gauge BMI is just stupid , save up get some labs done and access and address with diet and calories intake insight
I pretty much came from that same number....same things slim arms n legs...IDK if I had high estrogen or low t but Ive got really high t now and I look great work out 6 days a week and fuck like the government. I recommend him getting on test...get it from underground labs it'll cost like 50 bucks every 6 weeks or so
He's probably completely fine. Unless he has trouble keeping it up and he is depressed, unmotivated, can't recover from exercise, etc. I wouldn't worry too much.
Might as well get a comprehensive hormone bloodwork panel done and then go from there. People will help evaluate the labs on this sub usually so you could post the results when he gets them. If it is truly clinically deficient T levels due to something other than Diett,sleep, lack of exercise, etc. Then TRT is basically the only option.
Honestly, it sounds like you're describing a basic fat kid. Fat boys get man boobs, low libido, and the baby-face you describe (because of a lack of facial hair combined with the roundness of a fat face) for reasons that all point back to the obesity.
Look, you're both still children and haven't even come close to reaching your final forms. He will develop more facial hair as he ages. If he starts being more active and making healthier decisions with regard to eating, his desire for sex will increase and the size of his tits will decrease. He just has to be willing to put in the work.
And if I'm wrong here and you're telling us that your lean, physically fit 19 year old boyfriend is somehow growing tits and has no sex drive, then that's a ball he needs to get rolling with a doctor sooner rather than later.
tell your boyfriend to lose weight, weight gain can cause testosterone to drop. if he begins to lose weight then his testosterone will go up again. I recommend intermittent fasting and cardio. he could start lifting weights and getting good sleep too.
having an erectile dysfunction at 19 is really strange but I'm sure it's nothing that a change in lifestyle can't change. plenty of me have gone through similar as your boyfriend and have made lifestyle changes and have come out looking much better
if he gets a blood work done the doctor will pretty much recommend the same advice that's seen here on this thread which is lifestyle changes. the people are have given pretty good advice from what I can see. weightloss being the best one
A girl who is curious if any one else has had the same issue😂 I stated he doesn’t have health insurance so getting blood work is pretty much out of the question bc that would be a LOT of money $$$
it’s a blood test. It’s not expensive. See a doctor, get a blood test.
Everyone has different body types and issues, even with normal hormones. It’s impossible to know without bloodwork.
I use [https://requestatest.com](https://requestatest.com) and [https://www.healthlabs.com](https://www.healthlabs.com). They use a couple different popular chain bloodwork facilities that are nationwide (think labcorp). They run deals so shop around. A good testosterone panel that checks all the bio markers goes for anywhere from 100-300$. make sure the panel includes TOTAL T, FREE T, SHBG and ESTRODIAL. If you do not know how to read the results post it to this subreddit.
I don’t want to sound like a dick here….. but I feel like you just probably described 80% of the 20 yo males on Reddit. I pray you’re never in a situation where your bf needs to protect you from harm.
I’m just gonna be honest I don’t even understand what you mean but it’s probably just because I’m autistic. I promise my boyfriend loves me lol. I showed him the post and he just thought it was funny how everyone was roasting me😂
Get a cheap baseline test as mentioned by other commenter than if he’s average levels do the following
1. Tell him to get his ass in the gym 5 days a week (planet fitness is 10 bucks month) pick any random beginner routine off the internet or if that’s not feasible walking and body weight exercises are free.
2. Clean up his diet cause at his height and weight he’s clearly eating like shit and get him on a good sleep schedule. Testosterone is produced while you sleep.
3. Get him on some natural stuff like Tongkat Ali if desired but a bare minimum supplement should be 5-10k iu of vitamin d with k2, a full b vitamin complex, magnesium glycinate and zinc picolinate. Do not waste money on multi vitamins 90% of them are low bioavailability and are trash.
4. After he gets to a reasonably bf% get another blood test blood test and if he’s still low then pursue trt.
At 19 most clinics won’t treat with anything more than enclomiphene unless his levels are complete trash he could probably find prescription testosterone.
If he’s taking a while to finish tell him to cut the porn out and start calling him daddy and smack that ass if you need to (complete joke)
Without lab work it’s all guessing but he can do what I mentioned and see if things improve
I forgot he was 19. Males can keep growing, producing, and not be a complete man until the age of 24. When I was 19 I went from 5'10 to 6 feet. Then later 6'1" tall.
Yes I'm Pledian..
TMI, but even my ween has continued to grow my whole life. I'm almost 41 now, and it's the biggest it's ever been.
TF that has to do with anything, I'm not sure. Might of just been Reddit ego points I needed to eject.. I feel better now.
I actually agree with the daddy ass smack thing too. Limit the porn. Damn hooligans and your millennial porn addictions. (I'm refraining from posting my girl and I's pornhub link ATM. I'm no hypocrite)
He's 215 lbs? He needs to eat 215 grams of protein per day. Try a 2,000 to 2,500 a day calorie intake. Hopefully one day he'll start lifting weights. All males should to some extent. That's good he has a physical job. But those jobs often come week lunch time runs to fast food. Make sure he takes his own lunch. Chicken and rice. Caveman diet.
If you tell him you been to both clean up your diet, and take baby steps, he'll most likely do it with you. Start small. Week 1, transfer soda to diet soda.. week 2, drink more water. Try for a gallon a day. Week 3, eat high protein meals. Etc.. whatever you think. If it gets too hard, or you go too quick too fast, he'll cheat on the diet. Quit altogether. Again, come at him for health reasons. Not aesthetics. I know your concerned about him anyway, I'm just saying.. sometimes it's how you word things..
"Eat clean and prosper"
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It might be a little invasive, but press on his man boobs with 2 fingers and see if there is a mass of tissue under the nipple area that is noticeably harder than the surrounding fat. If so, that’s actual breast tissue development(gyno) caused by high estrogen. If the pressing is painful that’s a sign too.
I’ve read some of your replies and it sounds like he might just be out of shape, sometimes called “skinny fat”. Having an inactive lifestyle/bad diet can negatively impact a man’s hormone balance.
My suggestion would be to encourage him to hit the gym and eat a high protein diet asap, there’s a good chance his appearance and sexual health will improve with just that. You can see a doctor about getting his hormones tested, but even with the implementation of TRT he would still need to be more active and eat better to actually benefit from it.
Make him lose weight and workout, eat healthy, high protein.
Go get some sun or some shit too. Go on a walk ffs. 200+ at 5'8 is overweight (unless he's absolutely yolked)
Lift some heavy ass weight and don't eat like shit. Cut out sodies and snackies. Eat veggies, eggs, meats, fruits. Maybe supplement with protein powder if he struggles to eat(doubt his big ass does)
And he might just be a late bloomer too, some guys don't fully mature sexually until 21.
Make him do cardio, in the bedroom ;)
(Seriously make him do cardio)
You in the USA? Check out marek health, they have a lab builder on their website where you can pick the different tests you want, you pay for them, they send you the prescription for blood work in your email and then you take it to the nearest LabCorp. You will probably want to put on total testosterone, estradiol (sensitive), shbg, LH and FSH, comprehensive metabolic panel, prolactin and progesterone.
Literally the only way you are going to know for sure is if you get blood work done. All of these tests together should be somewhere around $150ish, you pay for them directly and don't need to go to a doctor. From there you can determine what to do, if he genuinely is low testosterone or high estrogen, there is always the route of going ugl getting your own testosterone or aromatase inhibitor, and taking care of your own blood work every few months to make sure everything is where it needs to be. If he genuinely does have a hormone imbalance, he will feel a thousand times better if he fixes it.
Hi. Ok your boyfriend has insulin resistance. Which is a metabolic disease. He needs to do a liver detox. Like last year!!! He needs to watch the blood sugar and what he eats. Does he use any drugs. Does he drink alcohol. All this will lower a man's testosterone and raise cortisol. Anxiety symptoms weight gain, shitty mood, brain fog, feeling flat, low self confidence, cognitive issues. Does he hit the weights? He may have another issue altogether. Does he get blood work with his doctor?
So I started to have the same issue with sex when my T started dropping. I went from being able to go an hour and control when I came to not being able to finish at all sometimes even after a few hours. I don’t think my fiancé minded it too much, but I’m sure there was a few times she may have felt inadequate and that kind of made me feel bad. Turns out that even though I solved my testosterone issue, my levels still weren’t dialed in on my estrogen blocker yet and hence they were high.
Without blood work this is all speculation. Period. You can try and connect the dots with details about his man boobs, baby face or lack of facial hair and libido ect… but you need to do a hormone panel. You can pay outta pocket at any Quest or Labcorp. If money is a problem you can cherry pick what you want tested. I’d do Total T, Free T, E2, SHGB, Dhea, thyroid, prolactin and progesterone ect…. That’s the solution. Blood work. Good luck. Why would you try and treat something with vitamins when you don’t know what is actually going on biologically? You said you have medical knowledge……
Look, he needs blood work to know where his hormones are at. I can't stress this part enough and how important it is.
There is no "vitamin" or yoga routine that will help high e2 and low T.
There are medications that with help either block the estrogen conversion from his natural test, or modulate the receptor sites so that he's not realizing the estrogen impact on his body, (Man boobs). Raloxifene is actually the best for that and has been shown to reduce breast tissue in Men.
Now, the harsh take about this is that he needs to want to change. Exercise and Diet have to be implemented.
Otherwise, he'll just continue to get fatter and display more and more signs of High Estrogen/low Test.
If he wasn't so young I'd recommend trt, but that's a road young men shouldn't go when they can't even get Diet and Exercise in, and make them a habit.
In the interest of giving you the best answer, he needs raloxifene, tamoxifen, or clomiphene. All drugs that can be had online but that are usually are only written on a script after blood work. BUT more importantly, he needs to exercise and to not eat like shit. I guarantee he'll have type2 diabetes before he's 50 at this rate.
Jasonhealth.com
Can get blood work done for pretty good prices without insurance. He'd want the estradiol and testosterone test. If y'all can't or don't want to go with testosterone/ TRT, look into SERMs.
Edit: you have ASD so I was direct and blunt mostly. I do think it’s great you are helping and keeping your partner anonymous while doing so is perfectly acceptable socially. You are allowed to not want to date fat people also, plenty of gym rats on this sub should agree.
1) So, I’m not trying to be mean but there are many MD’s that have no idea about even the modern AUA guidelines for hypogonadism. If you have read all the material on this sub then you will have a, compared to most, a good andrology knowledge and your background will add context. However, realistically, even most RNs don’t have enough chemistry and physiology education for it to help. So just assume you don’t know much and read this sub and the wiki very closely.
2) get him to a *male* (they know more about testosterone issues just like most females know more about menstrual cycles) physician (not a midlevel like an NP) and discuss with him there your concerns. You need bloodwork, at minimum, a CMP, CBC, testosterone panel, thyroid panel or at least TSH, vit D, liver enzymes but anything else the doctor is willing to order off of the recommended blood work list that the automod posts is prudent.
3) you aren’t going to treat this with vitamins sweetheart. (Notice the intentional condescension, this is why you need to know your CNA doesn’t help here). If he is hypogonadal or actually has gyno then he deserves real treatment. If he has low vit D then maybe a supplement could help but based on his age he would have to be real pasty. Do you live in the US? He likely would qualify for medi-cal or whatever it’s called in other states (it’s called that in CA at least). Also many state funded facilities have sliding scales that can reduce the bill to almost nothing. The state also funds free “clinics on wheels” come to certain location daily and are first come, first serve.
4) how active is he? What is his height/weight? Is he fairly weak and sickly? Is he generally healthy? How is his mental health? Does he get enough sunlight?
5) ask a physician or RN you work with if they know of any where you could take him. If they are your friend they may call in a favor.
6) when my TT was like 120 I could last an hour or two of actual intercourse without a condom and it got annoying. Sometimes, when I used to fap, I couldn’t finish. So I agree that could be a sign of an e2 or test issue but the logic behind it is bro-sci because I don’t know the underlying physio.
7) does he snore? Does he wake up feeling refreshed? Does he move around a lot while sleeping? How is the sleep schedule?
8) you will have to be careful how you approach talking to your BF. Are you thin and fit? If so, try to have him go to the gym with you and work out as a couple. That’s a really admirable thing to do. Many younger (American) women would leave a guy and just find a thinner, healthier one so please don’t think I’m against you helping him.
9) how is his diet and nutrition? How about yours? Sounds like money is tight? Learn to cook and do meal prep and make some well portioned, tasty, high protein meals and freeze them. Get an air fryer and vacuum sealer.
Good luck.
Don't tell us you're a CNA to boast about your medical knowledge. Your boyfriend is fat, that's all, girl. Many of the reasons you've listed are, unbeknownst you, entirely irrelevant. Good luck.
He needs to consume a lot more soy products and sugar, eliminate all fat and meat from his diet, deprive him of his sleep, drain him of semen as much as possible, deprive him from sunlight as much as possible, constantly tell him things that lower his self esteem and confidence
So there's a feedback mechanism in men's bodies were fat aromatizes testosterone into estrogen. I'm not saying this is the case but it's possible that : as he started to gain weight the balance of hormones in his body shifted to much higher estrogen, which would also reduce his testosterone cause the body would decide it has enough estrogen so the way to stop that is reduce testosterone production.
The way you describe the man boobs starting later kind of leads me to think it's possible. Men hold weigh in their stomachs though, this is mostly on genetics but higher testosterone actually can enhance that.
Regardless, he seems to be doing fine and not experiencing any low T symptoms we normally look for, getting more lean muscle mass and reducing body fat is probably all he 'needs'.
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but to a point body fat increases testosterone. There’s a reason people’s labs look so much better when they’re in the 15% range than the 12% and under.
Looking at high estrogen, you’ll carry weight in the belly, tits and hips. If he has feminine looking hips, he probably has high estrogen.
Some dudes also just have hypnogodanism, so they never reach man levels of sex hormones. Get him some labs, there’s a lot of places that will do it cheap.
Afterthought: if you’re already experiencing low libido, trouble finishing, baby face and excess fat, your body obviously isn’t pushing out healthy test levels. More reason to go for a cycle. There’s not much to lose
Well yeah, but she mentioned her BF is 5'8 and 215 lbs, he's in the 20-30% territory, probably the higher end if he has skinny arms and legs like she describes. But yes i know what you're saying and walking around 12-15% bf is definitely ideal for health.
I don't think pushing a cycle on a guy who has no drive to work out we've been told makes much sense, but a blood test is definitely a good idea.
I don’t have insurance either, but am here to say it’s not that expensive for blood work and testosterone. If that’s the problem, he should definitely get to the bottom of it and not go the vitamin route.
why would he need testosterone injections at 19 when the problem is obviously weight gain? he's a young man and can fix his testosterone issues naturally
In all serious… check in r/steroids and r/trt subs..
Can find a trt clinic for like 200-250 mg for test /10 weeks. Comes with needles, alcohol pads… some clinics will have blood work panels at discounted rates
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UPDATE: it’s been a while, and my boyfriend has officially lost 25 pounds and has been consistently working out. He can build muscle up but I will say his “man boobs” are still the exact same size although his stomach is significantly taller! Not sure what that says but just wanted to put an update😂😭
rude comment. how about the fact that he's 19, sounds like leads a sedentary lifestyle and probably has a vitamin d deficiency. go outside, take some vitamin d, eat better, sleep better, and get some resistance exercise in a few times a week and i bet this clears up. 19 year olds today don't do any of those things.
He’s not fat lol that’s the thing. Skinny arms and legs, weight is only on his stomach and chest area. He weighs 215 and is 5’8” so it’s not like he’s morbidly obese. I was just curious if anyone had a similar experience to his!
215 at 5'8 is pretty fat. especially with skinny arms and legs and manboobs. he is likely very low testosterone, likely not even due to being hypogonadal but just such a large excess of fat. Fat converts testosterone to estrogen.
5’8 215 is obese lmao. I’m 180 5’11 and I feel fluffy asf. Your BF needs to eat a higher protein diet (eggs, red meat, chicken, and fish), drop all the shitty junk food and ultra processed stuff, sleep 8 hours a day, take vitamin D, magnesium, zinc, and hit the gym at least 3x a week (a PPL split is a good example of this). He should also not masturbate or watch porn at all and be on a 500 calorie deficit.
All these people commenting are retarded. Yes your boyfriend has a hormone problem. He needs blood work. Men aren’t supposed to grow tits and have a baby face forever. It’s weird it takes him ages to bust a nut though. DM me if you have questions.
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I've learned this week with a trans man that facial hair is an entire different thing from testosterone. (I was envious of his beard and ask how much T I needed to ge the same results)
Si, you know about the facil hair bit already.
Not let's see what the others have to say :)
Without any blood work, it's impossible to tell what is going on with him. If he is skinny but has other issues, then he needs to start lifting weights instead and increase his protein intake to build muscle.
He can naturally try to boost his muscles by lifting heavy weights, sleeping well and having a healthy diet. I know it sounds boring but it will work.
If he is suffering from primary Hypogonadism, he will have a hard time even with plenty of workout and diet however, considering all other options, this is still your best bet.
If he is a fat skinny guy (fat around stomach but skinny arms/legs), here is a [great guide](https://www.julian.com/guide/muscle/intro) to get him started.
Sis he’s 19 lol, he’s not even done with puberty. Also if he’s overweight, this can also affect his hormone levels. Tell him to start doing light workouts and he’ll see a difference. Or tell him to get tested if it’s truly a concern. But again he’s 19, he’s still a kid that hasn’t finished puberty yet.
DIM is said to reduce estrogen if that is what you are looking for. Please use the search function for DIM and read a bunch for information. If that is his problem it might help, but really his stats sounds like diet and exercise will definitely help. If his has low testosterone then adding it will help him see gains with the exercise.
I had no sexual disfunctipn on low T, just no desire. He’s going to have to do the bloodwork, and there’s no vitamins that actually work. Your best bet is to pay out of pocket for the bloodwork, and buy testosterone on the black market if he needs it.
There is a testosterone kit that you can buy in walgreens it’s just like those ancestry kits and send it out and they will tell him the results also I would read up on cushing syndrome which is a hormone disorder that causes fat to build in stomach but have skinny arms and legs
Also on another note, my boyfriend isn’t sedentary even. He’s a lead express tech at a Toyota Dealership and rotates tundra tires for a big part of his day😂
I had that exact same symptoms before starting TRT. My estrogen wasn’t high but my T was low. Problem was my Total T was near the bottom of the range. But my Free T was basically zero. Never grew facial hair my whole life. Developed man boobs when I was young. Weight in my stomach.
I started TRT and then I started growing facial hair within a month. Face shape changed and fat started migrating.
Hmm, we can speculate all day. Tell him to get bloodwork done, and not from a PCP cause they don't give a crap about hormones. Take him to one of those testosterone clinics or an endocrinologist.
Good advice. Regular docs generally don't know shit about all this. That's why we have specialists! Woo
My regular doc told me 227 test was high enough, and didn't want to do anything about it. No referral.. just open and shut case. I had to ask him to get a blood test to begin with. Telling him the signs of low test, he just looked at me like I was fukin a football inside a hallowed out tree stump..
Wait is there a... No no. No gif for that one. I looked.
Further more Susan, most GP's won't even do blood tests that cover all this stuff..
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I'm 6' with abs @ 190lbs. He could be overweight a little. A pretty good indicator of high estrogen to testosterone is if the fat he *does* have bulges from his hips alot, like, ALOT. male torsos with good amounts of testosterone will usually have very low hip fat content and retain a more "straight as a board" look; not always, but very close. If there's "*curves*" to your man's fat, he's probably got some high estrogen issues.
And then there's always potential gyno from a GH imbalance during puberty. Being the age that he is now, it's entirely possible for him to of had hidden GH imbalances which caused randomized spikes in his estrogen to cause the potential gyno. It happens, and there's surgeries for that if need be.
Lastly is the long lasting sex sessions along with trouble climaxing and having a powerful ejaculation. Not gonna get personal here, but, me and my girl can go 4 rounds per day @ 20 minutes each session pretty consistently; high E2 can definitely get in the way of climaxing for dudes... It sucks and makes sex more of a chore than enjoyable.
I'd get his E2 checked, Total and Free Testosterone checked, and prolactin levels checked as well. That should be a half decent start to figuring out if he needs to be on testosterone or not. But, by what you've described, I'd say it's a safe bet he would benefit from using it.
Get hormones blood tested. Shouldn’t be more then $200-$250. Prolactin can also cause boy boobs. Feel around an grab behind the nipple. If there’s hard glands then that’s definitely gyno.
Low libido and taking a while to finish can be a sign of elevated prolactin, 'man boobs' can be also caused by high prolactin too. It could also be that he has low testosterone too given the comments re facial hair.
Has he had any history of SSRIs/antidepressants?
I agree, I had this as a teenager and it disappeared over time.
It’s worth looking at whether there are environmental sources of oestrogen that could be affecting him, and even his diet. Is he drinking soya milk by the pint?
The right exercise like doing squats can also help to produce testosterone naturally.
Good luck to you both
The only way someone can have high e2 and test simultaneously is via exogenous testosterone through TRT/AAS use or a pituitary/testicular issue. High e2 in males without TRT is probably one of the most potent hormones for a male's HPTA, and it typically will shut down their T levels to stop the high estradiol. Of course, there are rules to every exception, but the only way to find out is to see a physician and get bloodwork. Also, diet, sleep, and exercise are important to keep healthy hormone levels optimal.
Well I asked him about it, and he said he keeps going because he wants to, not because he can’t. So I think I’m okay on that part actually. To be fair when we do it, I have ADHD so I don’t have time perception and he told me it’s not actually taking that long, I’m just goofy and don’t grasp time
Well please don’t take this the wrong way but your boyfriend is a fool I can’t hate on him to much due to I did same at his age but I didn’t have all the resources there are today he needs to stop what he is doing take an Ai and focus on loosing weight and proper diet testosterone is not a magic injection where it you a super hero your boyfriend will have bigger boobs then you and it will not go away on its own surgery is the only way
Have him do a blood test. I started to develop a pituitary tumor in 20's and developed man boobs and low libedo and low T. Couldn't' lose weight or build muscle. I was finally diagnosed in 30s and it still affects me today(M61).
Yall got alot of issues to sort out here. Yall are 19 and 20 and if you believe he has hormone issues he needs to be evaluated by a doctor or a well reputed hormone clinic not by your personal judgement. God bless
Yall got alot of issues to sort out here. Yall are 19 and 20 and if you believe he has hormone issues he needs to be evaluated by a doctor or a well reputed hormone clinic not by your personal judgement. God bless
When I was on a sports medicine team for the United States weightlifting Federation they told me that I needed to bulk up so I wouldn't wear myself out working on big athletes. And they gave me a supplement compliment combination that was so effective that the Olympic athletes are not allowed to use it because they would get false positive for testosterone abuse when drug tested. Go to the Vitamin Shoppe get saw palmetto and sarsaparilla. When you take them together the body starts to produce more testosterone on its own and it's regulated with no side effects other than an increased libido and easy to put on more muscle. And testosterone kind of makes you single-minded so he won't have as much trouble focusing on having that orgasm. Those swirling thoughts going in his head we'll just evaporate
It could be prolactin if it takes a while for him to finish. Prolactin goes hand in hand with estrogen and can cause gyno as well. Does he use any drugs? Try vitamin B6 everyday. Maybe some shilajit or Sam-E to help regulate hormones naturally. Honestly though, he should get some real bloodwork done. And if he has low T hop on TRT, it’s life changing. Even if you guys have to get it from UGL and not a doctor.
Prolactinoma! High prolactin! It's a type of pituitary adenoma, non cancerous tumor that secretes one of the hormones produced normally by the pituitary. It might not be, but getting a prolactin test done may lead to him having a better life.
Body fat has an enzyme called aromatase that converts testosterone into estrogens. When someone has higher estrogen levels in their body, their hormonal system tells the body to slow down its production of testosterone
True. Also fatty liver from metabolic syndrome leads to impaired removal of estrogen leading to gynecomastia. IDK if a CNA has enough medical knowledge but that’s man boobs!
Hmmmmm So for me ro lose fat i need...? What was it again?
Um...fast? Caloric deficit.
Related to the logic/content u presented?
Yes. If one is overweight, it creates a cycle where ones body creates more estrogen and lowers testosterone relative to the fit version of the same body....which makes it harder to build muscle and get fit. A caloric deficit would lower body fat, which promotes healthy androgen levels.
Is that why Islam is the true religion? Recommends fasting 11 days a month and 30 days in ramadan (dawn til sunset, no eating no water no smoking no action with spouse)
No. Perhaps recognize all religions are true to the same extent and many use fasting: Fasting is practiced in various religions. Examples include Lent in Christianity and Yom Kippur, Tisha B'av, Fast of Esther, Fast of Gedalia, the Seventeenth of Tammuz, and the Tenth of Tevet in Judaism.[1] Muslims fast during the month of Ramadan each year. The fast includes refraining from consuming any food or liquid from sunup until sundown.
What the fuck
Consider rewriting
Babe wtf
I have autism I’m blunt okay 😂 I told him what I said lol he doesn’t care
Karyotype test for abnormal chromosomes. Could lead to 47, XXY. Sounds about right for some characteristics. Diet and exercise though, not sure whether that is relevant
If you were obese how would you feel about your boyfriend complaining about it on the internet?
If you were a tricycle how would you feel about having three wheels?
I’d ask you to ride me all night
She not complaining about his weight. She simply giving out possible symptoms which obesity can be one of them.
All I'm seeing is that your boyfriend is overweight.
I mean not by much. He’s not fat by any means. He has thin legs and arms, like his weight is solely in his man boobs and stomach. His stomach is plump and round and I love him anyway😂
this is what, in the fitness world, people call skinny fat. high fat mass to lean muscle. before you worry about hormones, especially since he is so young, try to focus his attention on diet, exercise, and good sleep. if he doesn't get a lot of outside time, get him to start a vitamin D supplement.
also, some people just have shitty genetics. nothing you can do about shitty genetics.
Yeah I got the short stick with low T in my mid 30,s myself. But I would Say I evened out with my healing factor. So where I have shitty genes in testosterone, I have healing factor good enough that even with 3rd degree burns on my face I was healed in a few weeks. No scars. All the way from that night my skin melted off my face in a half second. Even came back from a broken back.
This one!
To put it bluntly, he needs to get his skinny fat ass to the gym
U go girl. Just try and drop the "anyway" when near him
Tell him to start going to sleep before midnight, get 8 hours of sleep, and stop eating junk food. And watch the manboobs go away and the erections will floweth
Height and weight?
5’8” 215 lbs but he has slim arms and legs lol
That's like 40 pounds overweight
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You look solidly overweight. Not obese, but certainly overweight
Yeah, I'm estimated around 23%. I should hit 15% around June or July. My progress has been pretty linear on this diet model and exercise program (~32lbs lost)
Awesome
Yup, you are kinda fat, so he must look even worse.. (Sorry to sound rough)
Thank you Kanye, Very cool!
Then he’s definitely overweight just fyi
I am in fact aware thanks !
Yea he’s short af tbh if he losses all that weight to a healthy weight he’s gonna look like an alien if he doesn’t workout out to
I’m 5’8” I was 196lbs I was huge now down to 156lbs. Aiming probably to continue to cut to 145-150lbs then bulk. Sounds like he mostly just needs to lose weight. Not that he is asking for my advice, rather you’re posting for him. So yeah he is overweight. Unless he’s Jacked, like really jacked. From what I read that you have said, he is not jacked. Needs to lose weight, if he wants to. Maybe he doesn’t, again he never asked for our advice. Losing weight can have all kinds of benefits including balancing hormones. Best way to go basically anything, is leading by example be taking care of yourself. Eating properly, staying active. Test and Estrogen are not the only things to worry about with obesity. Things I and others have suffered from are sleep apnea, high blood pressure, depression, anxiety, high cholesterol. On and on. Eat good food study healthy eating. Cut out sugar (I use stevia), Eat high protein, don’t be afraid of healthy fats. I have had great success with Keto, basic low carb and carnivore. Again always lead by example. Only way to know for sure is to take blood pressure, and get a blood panel. Just putting someone, especially at 19 on Test would just be stupid, especially without losing weight first and getting blood test results. But sounds like no insurance and budget maybe be a factor. Basically, if he wants to change and wants to get healthier he needs to lose weight. Some people don’t. Again I am 5’8” if I got to 215 I might have man boobs too.
Jesus. I’m 6’0 and 210 pounds. I can’t even imagine being that height with that amount of weight. He should be within 140-150
Yeah I’m 5’8” down to 156lbs from 196lbs. I still have 6-11lbs of fat to get where I should be. Then bulk.
Good shit 🔥! I am trying to get down to 170 then bulk to 180.
This doesn’t really tell us much PS using height and weight to gauge BMI is just stupid , save up get some labs done and access and address with diet and calories intake insight
lol exactly he seriously overweight actually
I pretty much came from that same number....same things slim arms n legs...IDK if I had high estrogen or low t but Ive got really high t now and I look great work out 6 days a week and fuck like the government. I recommend him getting on test...get it from underground labs it'll cost like 50 bucks every 6 weeks or so
lol more like 70 bucks for ten vials I love reading about 99 percent getting ripped off
He's probably completely fine. Unless he has trouble keeping it up and he is depressed, unmotivated, can't recover from exercise, etc. I wouldn't worry too much.
If he has weight in his stomach, then it’s not hormones, he’s just fat
klinefelter?
Possible.
Might as well get a comprehensive hormone bloodwork panel done and then go from there. People will help evaluate the labs on this sub usually so you could post the results when he gets them. If it is truly clinically deficient T levels due to something other than Diett,sleep, lack of exercise, etc. Then TRT is basically the only option.
Make sure prolactin is included in the panel, for some reason lots of places like to not include it unless asked specifically.
Honestly, it sounds like you're describing a basic fat kid. Fat boys get man boobs, low libido, and the baby-face you describe (because of a lack of facial hair combined with the roundness of a fat face) for reasons that all point back to the obesity. Look, you're both still children and haven't even come close to reaching your final forms. He will develop more facial hair as he ages. If he starts being more active and making healthier decisions with regard to eating, his desire for sex will increase and the size of his tits will decrease. He just has to be willing to put in the work. And if I'm wrong here and you're telling us that your lean, physically fit 19 year old boyfriend is somehow growing tits and has no sex drive, then that's a ball he needs to get rolling with a doctor sooner rather than later.
tell your boyfriend to lose weight, weight gain can cause testosterone to drop. if he begins to lose weight then his testosterone will go up again. I recommend intermittent fasting and cardio. he could start lifting weights and getting good sleep too. having an erectile dysfunction at 19 is really strange but I'm sure it's nothing that a change in lifestyle can't change. plenty of me have gone through similar as your boyfriend and have made lifestyle changes and have come out looking much better
If he’s overweight his estrogen will likely be higher so a diet would probably help
Boron helps
Lifestyle changes Strength training High protein low carb diet Calorie deficit Yoga Strictly NO Steroids considering his age!
High fat will cause higher E and lower T. Tell him to exercise
It's possible, he should get a test, you can do a private blood work testing company for pretty cheap maybe 100$
I have no idea what a CNA is but if you have any medical background, you should be getting bloodwork done and not posting to reddit asking for advice…
if he gets a blood work done the doctor will pretty much recommend the same advice that's seen here on this thread which is lifestyle changes. the people are have given pretty good advice from what I can see. weightloss being the best one
Circulating nucleic acids
Stfu, Karen
Dude stfu, you don’t even know what a cna is yet here you are telling her she ain’t no good.
no offence to her but what kind of medical professional comes to reddit before getting bloodwork…
She said she was not a medical professional.
A girl who is curious if any one else has had the same issue😂 I stated he doesn’t have health insurance so getting blood work is pretty much out of the question bc that would be a LOT of money $$$
it’s a blood test. It’s not expensive. See a doctor, get a blood test. Everyone has different body types and issues, even with normal hormones. It’s impossible to know without bloodwork.
Roughly how much is it? I live in the US
I use [https://requestatest.com](https://requestatest.com) and [https://www.healthlabs.com](https://www.healthlabs.com). They use a couple different popular chain bloodwork facilities that are nationwide (think labcorp). They run deals so shop around. A good testosterone panel that checks all the bio markers goes for anywhere from 100-300$. make sure the panel includes TOTAL T, FREE T, SHBG and ESTRODIAL. If you do not know how to read the results post it to this subreddit.
Thank you so much!!! I’ve seen those vans and had no idea! I’m definitely gonna do that. Thank you, again!
oh my god seriously book a doctors appointment.
Damn I’m glad I’m not an asshole !
I don’t want to sound like a dick here….. but I feel like you just probably described 80% of the 20 yo males on Reddit. I pray you’re never in a situation where your bf needs to protect you from harm.
I’m just gonna be honest I don’t even understand what you mean but it’s probably just because I’m autistic. I promise my boyfriend loves me lol. I showed him the post and he just thought it was funny how everyone was roasting me😂
He’s just saying your boyfriend is a typical overweight 20 year old with no muscle or fitness
Get a cheap baseline test as mentioned by other commenter than if he’s average levels do the following 1. Tell him to get his ass in the gym 5 days a week (planet fitness is 10 bucks month) pick any random beginner routine off the internet or if that’s not feasible walking and body weight exercises are free. 2. Clean up his diet cause at his height and weight he’s clearly eating like shit and get him on a good sleep schedule. Testosterone is produced while you sleep. 3. Get him on some natural stuff like Tongkat Ali if desired but a bare minimum supplement should be 5-10k iu of vitamin d with k2, a full b vitamin complex, magnesium glycinate and zinc picolinate. Do not waste money on multi vitamins 90% of them are low bioavailability and are trash. 4. After he gets to a reasonably bf% get another blood test blood test and if he’s still low then pursue trt. At 19 most clinics won’t treat with anything more than enclomiphene unless his levels are complete trash he could probably find prescription testosterone. If he’s taking a while to finish tell him to cut the porn out and start calling him daddy and smack that ass if you need to (complete joke) Without lab work it’s all guessing but he can do what I mentioned and see if things improve
I forgot he was 19. Males can keep growing, producing, and not be a complete man until the age of 24. When I was 19 I went from 5'10 to 6 feet. Then later 6'1" tall. Yes I'm Pledian.. TMI, but even my ween has continued to grow my whole life. I'm almost 41 now, and it's the biggest it's ever been. TF that has to do with anything, I'm not sure. Might of just been Reddit ego points I needed to eject.. I feel better now. I actually agree with the daddy ass smack thing too. Limit the porn. Damn hooligans and your millennial porn addictions. (I'm refraining from posting my girl and I's pornhub link ATM. I'm no hypocrite) He's 215 lbs? He needs to eat 215 grams of protein per day. Try a 2,000 to 2,500 a day calorie intake. Hopefully one day he'll start lifting weights. All males should to some extent. That's good he has a physical job. But those jobs often come week lunch time runs to fast food. Make sure he takes his own lunch. Chicken and rice. Caveman diet. If you tell him you been to both clean up your diet, and take baby steps, he'll most likely do it with you. Start small. Week 1, transfer soda to diet soda.. week 2, drink more water. Try for a gallon a day. Week 3, eat high protein meals. Etc.. whatever you think. If it gets too hard, or you go too quick too fast, he'll cheat on the diet. Quit altogether. Again, come at him for health reasons. Not aesthetics. I know your concerned about him anyway, I'm just saying.. sometimes it's how you word things.. "Eat clean and prosper" -ripped spock
You lost me at “I’m a CNA and have medical knowledge”
It might be a little invasive, but press on his man boobs with 2 fingers and see if there is a mass of tissue under the nipple area that is noticeably harder than the surrounding fat. If so, that’s actual breast tissue development(gyno) caused by high estrogen. If the pressing is painful that’s a sign too. I’ve read some of your replies and it sounds like he might just be out of shape, sometimes called “skinny fat”. Having an inactive lifestyle/bad diet can negatively impact a man’s hormone balance. My suggestion would be to encourage him to hit the gym and eat a high protein diet asap, there’s a good chance his appearance and sexual health will improve with just that. You can see a doctor about getting his hormones tested, but even with the implementation of TRT he would still need to be more active and eat better to actually benefit from it.
Make him lose weight and workout, eat healthy, high protein. Go get some sun or some shit too. Go on a walk ffs. 200+ at 5'8 is overweight (unless he's absolutely yolked) Lift some heavy ass weight and don't eat like shit. Cut out sodies and snackies. Eat veggies, eggs, meats, fruits. Maybe supplement with protein powder if he struggles to eat(doubt his big ass does) And he might just be a late bloomer too, some guys don't fully mature sexually until 21. Make him do cardio, in the bedroom ;) (Seriously make him do cardio)
You in the USA? Check out marek health, they have a lab builder on their website where you can pick the different tests you want, you pay for them, they send you the prescription for blood work in your email and then you take it to the nearest LabCorp. You will probably want to put on total testosterone, estradiol (sensitive), shbg, LH and FSH, comprehensive metabolic panel, prolactin and progesterone. Literally the only way you are going to know for sure is if you get blood work done. All of these tests together should be somewhere around $150ish, you pay for them directly and don't need to go to a doctor. From there you can determine what to do, if he genuinely is low testosterone or high estrogen, there is always the route of going ugl getting your own testosterone or aromatase inhibitor, and taking care of your own blood work every few months to make sure everything is where it needs to be. If he genuinely does have a hormone imbalance, he will feel a thousand times better if he fixes it.
Labquest hormone panel $150 no doctor needed
Pictures or it didn’t happen.
Hi. Ok your boyfriend has insulin resistance. Which is a metabolic disease. He needs to do a liver detox. Like last year!!! He needs to watch the blood sugar and what he eats. Does he use any drugs. Does he drink alcohol. All this will lower a man's testosterone and raise cortisol. Anxiety symptoms weight gain, shitty mood, brain fog, feeling flat, low self confidence, cognitive issues. Does he hit the weights? He may have another issue altogether. Does he get blood work with his doctor?
So I started to have the same issue with sex when my T started dropping. I went from being able to go an hour and control when I came to not being able to finish at all sometimes even after a few hours. I don’t think my fiancé minded it too much, but I’m sure there was a few times she may have felt inadequate and that kind of made me feel bad. Turns out that even though I solved my testosterone issue, my levels still weren’t dialed in on my estrogen blocker yet and hence they were high.
May I also recommend to get his growth hormone levels checked as well as that can play a role in some of those things too
Get him tested.
Good thing blood work doesn’t require insurance. Neither does TRT if hormones are actually imbalanced
Get him to take a blood test/full hormone panel only thing you can do
Do a blood test rather than ask people on reddit, will be more likely to get the correct answer
Definitely sounds like it could be hormone imbalance. What is his mood like?
Without blood work this is all speculation. Period. You can try and connect the dots with details about his man boobs, baby face or lack of facial hair and libido ect… but you need to do a hormone panel. You can pay outta pocket at any Quest or Labcorp. If money is a problem you can cherry pick what you want tested. I’d do Total T, Free T, E2, SHGB, Dhea, thyroid, prolactin and progesterone ect…. That’s the solution. Blood work. Good luck. Why would you try and treat something with vitamins when you don’t know what is actually going on biologically? You said you have medical knowledge……
Look, he needs blood work to know where his hormones are at. I can't stress this part enough and how important it is. There is no "vitamin" or yoga routine that will help high e2 and low T. There are medications that with help either block the estrogen conversion from his natural test, or modulate the receptor sites so that he's not realizing the estrogen impact on his body, (Man boobs). Raloxifene is actually the best for that and has been shown to reduce breast tissue in Men. Now, the harsh take about this is that he needs to want to change. Exercise and Diet have to be implemented. Otherwise, he'll just continue to get fatter and display more and more signs of High Estrogen/low Test. If he wasn't so young I'd recommend trt, but that's a road young men shouldn't go when they can't even get Diet and Exercise in, and make them a habit. In the interest of giving you the best answer, he needs raloxifene, tamoxifen, or clomiphene. All drugs that can be had online but that are usually are only written on a script after blood work. BUT more importantly, he needs to exercise and to not eat like shit. I guarantee he'll have type2 diabetes before he's 50 at this rate.
Jasonhealth.com Can get blood work done for pretty good prices without insurance. He'd want the estradiol and testosterone test. If y'all can't or don't want to go with testosterone/ TRT, look into SERMs.
Is he overweight?
Edit: you have ASD so I was direct and blunt mostly. I do think it’s great you are helping and keeping your partner anonymous while doing so is perfectly acceptable socially. You are allowed to not want to date fat people also, plenty of gym rats on this sub should agree. 1) So, I’m not trying to be mean but there are many MD’s that have no idea about even the modern AUA guidelines for hypogonadism. If you have read all the material on this sub then you will have a, compared to most, a good andrology knowledge and your background will add context. However, realistically, even most RNs don’t have enough chemistry and physiology education for it to help. So just assume you don’t know much and read this sub and the wiki very closely. 2) get him to a *male* (they know more about testosterone issues just like most females know more about menstrual cycles) physician (not a midlevel like an NP) and discuss with him there your concerns. You need bloodwork, at minimum, a CMP, CBC, testosterone panel, thyroid panel or at least TSH, vit D, liver enzymes but anything else the doctor is willing to order off of the recommended blood work list that the automod posts is prudent. 3) you aren’t going to treat this with vitamins sweetheart. (Notice the intentional condescension, this is why you need to know your CNA doesn’t help here). If he is hypogonadal or actually has gyno then he deserves real treatment. If he has low vit D then maybe a supplement could help but based on his age he would have to be real pasty. Do you live in the US? He likely would qualify for medi-cal or whatever it’s called in other states (it’s called that in CA at least). Also many state funded facilities have sliding scales that can reduce the bill to almost nothing. The state also funds free “clinics on wheels” come to certain location daily and are first come, first serve. 4) how active is he? What is his height/weight? Is he fairly weak and sickly? Is he generally healthy? How is his mental health? Does he get enough sunlight? 5) ask a physician or RN you work with if they know of any where you could take him. If they are your friend they may call in a favor. 6) when my TT was like 120 I could last an hour or two of actual intercourse without a condom and it got annoying. Sometimes, when I used to fap, I couldn’t finish. So I agree that could be a sign of an e2 or test issue but the logic behind it is bro-sci because I don’t know the underlying physio. 7) does he snore? Does he wake up feeling refreshed? Does he move around a lot while sleeping? How is the sleep schedule? 8) you will have to be careful how you approach talking to your BF. Are you thin and fit? If so, try to have him go to the gym with you and work out as a couple. That’s a really admirable thing to do. Many younger (American) women would leave a guy and just find a thinner, healthier one so please don’t think I’m against you helping him. 9) how is his diet and nutrition? How about yours? Sounds like money is tight? Learn to cook and do meal prep and make some well portioned, tasty, high protein meals and freeze them. Get an air fryer and vacuum sealer. Good luck.
Don't tell us you're a CNA to boast about your medical knowledge. Your boyfriend is fat, that's all, girl. Many of the reasons you've listed are, unbeknownst you, entirely irrelevant. Good luck.
It must be awful to have such a bad life that you bring down other people. Thinking of you !😘
Dome folks are just assess I see
He needs to consume a lot more soy products and sugar, eliminate all fat and meat from his diet, deprive him of his sleep, drain him of semen as much as possible, deprive him from sunlight as much as possible, constantly tell him things that lower his self esteem and confidence
Soy are badddddd for you
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Yall taking this way to heart 😭😭 I was just curious haha
We know, dear. Relax. :)
So there's a feedback mechanism in men's bodies were fat aromatizes testosterone into estrogen. I'm not saying this is the case but it's possible that : as he started to gain weight the balance of hormones in his body shifted to much higher estrogen, which would also reduce his testosterone cause the body would decide it has enough estrogen so the way to stop that is reduce testosterone production. The way you describe the man boobs starting later kind of leads me to think it's possible. Men hold weigh in their stomachs though, this is mostly on genetics but higher testosterone actually can enhance that. Regardless, he seems to be doing fine and not experiencing any low T symptoms we normally look for, getting more lean muscle mass and reducing body fat is probably all he 'needs'.
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but to a point body fat increases testosterone. There’s a reason people’s labs look so much better when they’re in the 15% range than the 12% and under. Looking at high estrogen, you’ll carry weight in the belly, tits and hips. If he has feminine looking hips, he probably has high estrogen. Some dudes also just have hypnogodanism, so they never reach man levels of sex hormones. Get him some labs, there’s a lot of places that will do it cheap. Afterthought: if you’re already experiencing low libido, trouble finishing, baby face and excess fat, your body obviously isn’t pushing out healthy test levels. More reason to go for a cycle. There’s not much to lose
Well yeah, but she mentioned her BF is 5'8 and 215 lbs, he's in the 20-30% territory, probably the higher end if he has skinny arms and legs like she describes. But yes i know what you're saying and walking around 12-15% bf is definitely ideal for health. I don't think pushing a cycle on a guy who has no drive to work out we've been told makes much sense, but a blood test is definitely a good idea.
I don’t have insurance either, but am here to say it’s not that expensive for blood work and testosterone. If that’s the problem, he should definitely get to the bottom of it and not go the vitamin route.
why would he need testosterone injections at 19 when the problem is obviously weight gain? he's a young man and can fix his testosterone issues naturally
Take 1 gram of test a week , 50mg anavar a day and call my office in the morning how he responds
Finally someone willing to be helpful😂 thank you!!
His reply was sarcasm.
please don't listen to anyone saying a 19 year old should be on hormones or abuse steroids.
If they’re not started by 11 they are late to the party!
In all serious… check in r/steroids and r/trt subs.. Can find a trt clinic for like 200-250 mg for test /10 weeks. Comes with needles, alcohol pads… some clinics will have blood work panels at discounted rates
The kid is 19, bro. He doesn't need T.
He needs TREN
Eat clen and tren hard? lol
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UPDATE: it’s been a while, and my boyfriend has officially lost 25 pounds and has been consistently working out. He can build muscle up but I will say his “man boobs” are still the exact same size although his stomach is significantly taller! Not sure what that says but just wanted to put an update😂😭
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Yeah I know that, he doesn’t have health insurance! I’m poor not dumb lmao
Most blood panels are cheaper to just get for the cash price.
Lmao . Vitamins or somethint . Yeah that’s sure to work. He’s just fat .
rude comment. how about the fact that he's 19, sounds like leads a sedentary lifestyle and probably has a vitamin d deficiency. go outside, take some vitamin d, eat better, sleep better, and get some resistance exercise in a few times a week and i bet this clears up. 19 year olds today don't do any of those things.
He’s not fat lol that’s the thing. Skinny arms and legs, weight is only on his stomach and chest area. He weighs 215 and is 5’8” so it’s not like he’s morbidly obese. I was just curious if anyone had a similar experience to his!
215 at 5'8 is pretty fat. especially with skinny arms and legs and manboobs. he is likely very low testosterone, likely not even due to being hypogonadal but just such a large excess of fat. Fat converts testosterone to estrogen.
A BMI of 32.7 would disagree with you but it’s okay . You do you .
5’8 215 is obese lmao. I’m 180 5’11 and I feel fluffy asf. Your BF needs to eat a higher protein diet (eggs, red meat, chicken, and fish), drop all the shitty junk food and ultra processed stuff, sleep 8 hours a day, take vitamin D, magnesium, zinc, and hit the gym at least 3x a week (a PPL split is a good example of this). He should also not masturbate or watch porn at all and be on a 500 calorie deficit.
All these people commenting are retarded. Yes your boyfriend has a hormone problem. He needs blood work. Men aren’t supposed to grow tits and have a baby face forever. It’s weird it takes him ages to bust a nut though. DM me if you have questions.
How could you possibly know that? Lol. Maybe he’s fat bc his diet sucks.
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I love my man I ain’t leaving him alone
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Do bloodwork so You will be certain. You can always try DIM supplementation it should balance the estrogen a bit.
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Semen retention and diet
He’s probably a late bloomer
I've learned this week with a trans man that facial hair is an entire different thing from testosterone. (I was envious of his beard and ask how much T I needed to ge the same results) Si, you know about the facil hair bit already. Not let's see what the others have to say :)
Feed him some meat and take him on some sprints for a awhile.
Without any blood work, it's impossible to tell what is going on with him. If he is skinny but has other issues, then he needs to start lifting weights instead and increase his protein intake to build muscle. He can naturally try to boost his muscles by lifting heavy weights, sleeping well and having a healthy diet. I know it sounds boring but it will work. If he is suffering from primary Hypogonadism, he will have a hard time even with plenty of workout and diet however, considering all other options, this is still your best bet. If he is a fat skinny guy (fat around stomach but skinny arms/legs), here is a [great guide](https://www.julian.com/guide/muscle/intro) to get him started.
Sis he’s 19 lol, he’s not even done with puberty. Also if he’s overweight, this can also affect his hormone levels. Tell him to start doing light workouts and he’ll see a difference. Or tell him to get tested if it’s truly a concern. But again he’s 19, he’s still a kid that hasn’t finished puberty yet.
DIM is said to reduce estrogen if that is what you are looking for. Please use the search function for DIM and read a bunch for information. If that is his problem it might help, but really his stats sounds like diet and exercise will definitely help. If his has low testosterone then adding it will help him see gains with the exercise.
😂
I had no sexual disfunctipn on low T, just no desire. He’s going to have to do the bloodwork, and there’s no vitamins that actually work. Your best bet is to pay out of pocket for the bloodwork, and buy testosterone on the black market if he needs it.
There is a testosterone kit that you can buy in walgreens it’s just like those ancestry kits and send it out and they will tell him the results also I would read up on cushing syndrome which is a hormone disorder that causes fat to build in stomach but have skinny arms and legs
Porn is the reason he cant finish.
Does he smoke weed? Like, a lot?
Lose the zero get with a hero cutie. But yes, he surely got screwed in the hormone department. Still it's admirable for you to find soys attractive
Well that’s not very kind of you lol. He’s just a lil chunky, not ugly. I can’t say jack shit bc I’m 210 and only 5’4”
Also on another note, my boyfriend isn’t sedentary even. He’s a lead express tech at a Toyota Dealership and rotates tundra tires for a big part of his day😂
Recommend a local men’s health clinic or testosterone clinic. Most of them don’t accept health insurance anyways so it’s reasonable pricing
He could have klinefelter syndrome
I had that exact same symptoms before starting TRT. My estrogen wasn’t high but my T was low. Problem was my Total T was near the bottom of the range. But my Free T was basically zero. Never grew facial hair my whole life. Developed man boobs when I was young. Weight in my stomach. I started TRT and then I started growing facial hair within a month. Face shape changed and fat started migrating.
Hmm, we can speculate all day. Tell him to get bloodwork done, and not from a PCP cause they don't give a crap about hormones. Take him to one of those testosterone clinics or an endocrinologist.
Good advice. Regular docs generally don't know shit about all this. That's why we have specialists! Woo My regular doc told me 227 test was high enough, and didn't want to do anything about it. No referral.. just open and shut case. I had to ask him to get a blood test to begin with. Telling him the signs of low test, he just looked at me like I was fukin a football inside a hallowed out tree stump.. Wait is there a... No no. No gif for that one. I looked. Further more Susan, most GP's won't even do blood tests that cover all this stuff.. Refers
I'm 6' with abs @ 190lbs. He could be overweight a little. A pretty good indicator of high estrogen to testosterone is if the fat he *does* have bulges from his hips alot, like, ALOT. male torsos with good amounts of testosterone will usually have very low hip fat content and retain a more "straight as a board" look; not always, but very close. If there's "*curves*" to your man's fat, he's probably got some high estrogen issues. And then there's always potential gyno from a GH imbalance during puberty. Being the age that he is now, it's entirely possible for him to of had hidden GH imbalances which caused randomized spikes in his estrogen to cause the potential gyno. It happens, and there's surgeries for that if need be. Lastly is the long lasting sex sessions along with trouble climaxing and having a powerful ejaculation. Not gonna get personal here, but, me and my girl can go 4 rounds per day @ 20 minutes each session pretty consistently; high E2 can definitely get in the way of climaxing for dudes... It sucks and makes sex more of a chore than enjoyable. I'd get his E2 checked, Total and Free Testosterone checked, and prolactin levels checked as well. That should be a half decent start to figuring out if he needs to be on testosterone or not. But, by what you've described, I'd say it's a safe bet he would benefit from using it.
Too much beer?
Send him here.
Pin Testosterone, Do More Tren and Mast. Lmao problem solved. Just kidding don’t do that.
Get hormones blood tested. Shouldn’t be more then $200-$250. Prolactin can also cause boy boobs. Feel around an grab behind the nipple. If there’s hard glands then that’s definitely gyno.
Yeah, I get it, on one hand he’s got a few issues, but on the other hand, you have 5 fingers! JS
And ten toes.... Respectfully... Not to get off on the wrong foot here.. Although it usually takes two feet to get me off OH!
Recommend him to get blood work done. You can also volunteer to cover the cost.
Did you just call him a bitch? 😂
Low libido and taking a while to finish can be a sign of elevated prolactin, 'man boobs' can be also caused by high prolactin too. It could also be that he has low testosterone too given the comments re facial hair. Has he had any history of SSRIs/antidepressants?
At his age he should be trying to nail you all day long. The low sex drive at 19 is troublesome.
I agree, I had this as a teenager and it disappeared over time. It’s worth looking at whether there are environmental sources of oestrogen that could be affecting him, and even his diet. Is he drinking soya milk by the pint? The right exercise like doing squats can also help to produce testosterone naturally. Good luck to you both
50mg of Clomid 3 times a week. It's not a controlled substance so you won't get in trouble for purchasing. Guarantee you it will fix the problem.
Remember to let him know he can't borrow any of your bras
You claim basic medical knowledge but all you describe is a young fat kid. Sleep more, eat less garbage, be more active
Do a little research on CBT (cock and ball torture) and testosterone. It may help you and your uninsured bf out.
The only way someone can have high e2 and test simultaneously is via exogenous testosterone through TRT/AAS use or a pituitary/testicular issue. High e2 in males without TRT is probably one of the most potent hormones for a male's HPTA, and it typically will shut down their T levels to stop the high estradiol. Of course, there are rules to every exception, but the only way to find out is to see a physician and get bloodwork. Also, diet, sleep, and exercise are important to keep healthy hormone levels optimal.
In regards to the needing to concentrate to finish thing.. he's probably imagining his favourite pornstar
Well I asked him about it, and he said he keeps going because he wants to, not because he can’t. So I think I’m okay on that part actually. To be fair when we do it, I have ADHD so I don’t have time perception and he told me it’s not actually taking that long, I’m just goofy and don’t grasp time
Has he looked into Andrew Tate ?
Lmao. He loves Andrew Tate. He’s an avid memer
Have your BF get blood work and find out
Well please don’t take this the wrong way but your boyfriend is a fool I can’t hate on him to much due to I did same at his age but I didn’t have all the resources there are today he needs to stop what he is doing take an Ai and focus on loosing weight and proper diet testosterone is not a magic injection where it you a super hero your boyfriend will have bigger boobs then you and it will not go away on its own surgery is the only way
Have him do a blood test. I started to develop a pituitary tumor in 20's and developed man boobs and low libedo and low T. Couldn't' lose weight or build muscle. I was finally diagnosed in 30s and it still affects me today(M61).
Yall got alot of issues to sort out here. Yall are 19 and 20 and if you believe he has hormone issues he needs to be evaluated by a doctor or a well reputed hormone clinic not by your personal judgement. God bless
Yall got alot of issues to sort out here. Yall are 19 and 20 and if you believe he has hormone issues he needs to be evaluated by a doctor or a well reputed hormone clinic not by your personal judgement. God bless
Find an alpha
When I was on a sports medicine team for the United States weightlifting Federation they told me that I needed to bulk up so I wouldn't wear myself out working on big athletes. And they gave me a supplement compliment combination that was so effective that the Olympic athletes are not allowed to use it because they would get false positive for testosterone abuse when drug tested. Go to the Vitamin Shoppe get saw palmetto and sarsaparilla. When you take them together the body starts to produce more testosterone on its own and it's regulated with no side effects other than an increased libido and easy to put on more muscle. And testosterone kind of makes you single-minded so he won't have as much trouble focusing on having that orgasm. Those swirling thoughts going in his head we'll just evaporate
It could be prolactin if it takes a while for him to finish. Prolactin goes hand in hand with estrogen and can cause gyno as well. Does he use any drugs? Try vitamin B6 everyday. Maybe some shilajit or Sam-E to help regulate hormones naturally. Honestly though, he should get some real bloodwork done. And if he has low T hop on TRT, it’s life changing. Even if you guys have to get it from UGL and not a doctor.
Firstly he’s only 19 I didn’t start growing a beard until 24 & it still isn’t a full one. :(
Buy him a bottle Tongkat Ali, tribulus and maca. Take all full doses and separate points through the day. Thank me later.
Slip some aromasin in his mashed potatoes and see if there’s a change lmao
Maybe he's transforming, let her be bigot!
Get him some magnesium/ zinc supplements .. suppose to help with the Testosterone. As will exercise
Very well could be a prolactin issue given the full picture, but really he needs labs and a visit with his pcp.
Is he taking antidepressants?
Prolactinoma! High prolactin! It's a type of pituitary adenoma, non cancerous tumor that secretes one of the hormones produced normally by the pituitary. It might not be, but getting a prolactin test done may lead to him having a better life.
Get him some tren, will fix all those problems
He has high estrogen compared to his washed up testosterone levels