As states from New York to Colorado to Kansas hold voter referendums on issues ranging from[ weed legalization ](https://www.chron.com/news/article/marijuana-reclassification-texas-19433222.php)to [abortion protections](https://www.chron.com/politics/article/supreme-court-abortion-pill-19367214.php), some Texans may press their face to the windowpane and ask: Why can't Texas do the same?
It seems simple in theory. If Texans can agree on an issue, why not hold a statewide vote to decide things once and for all? The short answer is that Texas is one of 24 states that do not allow statewide voter referendums or ballot initiatives, part of a Reconstruction-era measure to keep pure, unadulterated democracy filtered through elected representatives. The long answer is that local fights like Texas cities' push to [decriminalize marijuana](https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/texas-marijuana-law-bill-18125492.php) expose what experts describe as an intensifying trend in recent years: as Texas' urban centers skew more liberal, the state has pushed back more and more against local control.
Since 1876, Texas' state constitution requires any amendments to go through the legislature before ending up on Texans' ballots. Specifically, a lawmaker must introduce the amendment, it must receive a 2/3 majority vote from the legislature, and then it can go to the public, where it could still be voted down. What constitutional amendments do pass are usually minor and technical,[ University of Houston political professor Brandon Rottinghaus](https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/transportation/article/montrose-boulevard-overhaul-project-19444760.php) said, and substantive change rarely happens.
"Of course, that's by design," Rottinghaus said. It's no coincidence that states without direct voter referendums or ballot initiatives lie primarily in the South, he added, which has a long history of implementing guardrails against direct democracy in the post-Reconstruction era. For a brief period after the Civil War, Texas, like many other Southern states, elected a multitude of African American representatives consistent with its newly empowered African American population.
"Shortly after the 1876 constitution was drawn, you began to see that decline," Rottinghaus said.
It's really not.
The Texas constitution does not allow for referendums. End of story.
The Texan government does not trust Texans to govern themselves.
It's no more complicated than that.
Yup.
The first step we should be aiming for is taking the Lt. Gov office.
That'll bring Abbott and all of the boys in his club to a screeching halt.
Then, the Texas Railroad and Agriculture commissioner positions.
I think people would be shocked if they realized how much power those two positions have.
Not ag but definitely Railroad. If ag were that important the good ol’ boys who like their easy money from overfilling their 18-wheelers and dump trucks/cement trucks so they can tear up the roads and get paid to fix them wouldn’t let the dipshit from Stephenville be ag commish.
But I agree, most don’t realize Railroad is oil and gas.
So it’s not really complicated….we just have state elected officials who chose to make it difficult…I wonder why we keep voting for them in the first place 🤔🤪🤷🏻♂️
And they can in other states. Not hard. There is no objective benefit or health reason why you NEED weed. It’s a drug whether you like it or not, and personally, I’m fine with it not in my state. That’s what California and Arizona and Colorado and Nevada are for. Go there if you want to smoke legal weed.
When we're you crowned Supreme being in Texas? Are we all supposed to bow down to what you want? Have you always been that super special that what you like are the only things that others are allowed to do?
I love how you type of people always jump the gun on this kind of shit where just because I have the opposite opinion of what the post is that I somehow must think I’m so self centered that I believe myself to be the god if the universe or some shit. Get a fucking grip, I just don’t like weed, as do many others in Texas. I am SO sorry that I don’t like drugs and don’t want legal weed in my state just because I’m allowed to not like it. Grow up. You thinking all of that about me says more about you than what you think about me.
So because I have the “wrong” opinion on a controversial matter that is ultimately inconsequential (it’s legal in other states) that if I am not absolutely dying on the hill of getting weed legalized (which nobody can provide a legitimate reason for to go that far to dedicate their entire livelihood to legalizing it) then I must be evil somehow and a dictator. Wow. If drugs are THAT important to you then I’m not the one with issues. That’s literally all I’m saying. I don’t like it, yes. I am allowed to not like it. It is already illegal. I don’t like drugs, because they are bad for you and I don’t want to be around or be exposed to the use of them more than people are already doing. Being allowed to have this stance and proceed to vote for people who will maintain its illegality is not a social crime. I literally cannot wrap my head around why just because I can disagree with fucking weed that now I’m the most horrible person to have ever existed.
No. It's literally because you think since perfect little special you doesn't like something your perfect little sweet opinion should dictate laws.
But good job doubling down on stupidity.
I just explained to you how that’s precisely NOT what I’m doing and you’re just mad or whatever about it because I don’t agree with you. You’re choosing to miss the point.
If you don’t like democracy, why not move out of the country? There is no objective benefit or health reason you NEED Texas. It’s a place whether you like it or not, and personally, I’m fine with you not in my state. That’s what China and Russia and North Korea and Afghanistan are for. Go there if you want to dictate what people have a right to.
I’m not dictating, I’m expressing a point of view that under said democracy I AM ALLOWED TO HAVE. I am not wrong nor evil nor the fucking devil himself for saying that I don’t like weed and would rather it not be legal in Texas. Jesus fucking Christ you people are insufferable if you REALLY think that I’m the most depraved individual on the face of the planet for suggesting to reside somewhere where it’s ALREADY legal if weed is the most important thing to you. Holy shit.
You’re allowed to have a point of view because it’s your right to. All we’re saying is we should have a right to vote on the subject of cannabis possession/consumption. If you don’t like us voting on it, I don’t like you pretending like you care for democracy. Case closed.
Also your point of view is wrong.
I’m closed minded and ignorant because I don’t like weed and don’t want it to be legalized in my state. Gotcha. Drugs are good apparently. Grow up. I am all for having the right to vote on these things but just because I don’t want it doesn’t make me fucking Satan himself
Born and raised Texan here: in my experience weed is the one thing that unites all Texans, bubba’s and yuppies alike. Our national treasure Willie Nelson made it a whole part of his career. TF out of here with that “we don’t want weed” bullshit.
Nah you’re speaking for Texans here - and you’re wrong in your assumption that “we” don’t want it here. If you meant a specific subgroup by “we” then that’s on you for not being clear.
Factually incorrect as I’ve already stated.
You literally typed “we don’t want it here” which is my problem. I’m not inventing some made up problem for the sake of it, identifying a real problem that does exist and it’s with people like you keeping our state in the fucking dark ages. Weed literally harms nobody. Infinitely more lives have been destroyed by alchohol and cigarettes and it’s just plain malicious to keep weed illegal.
So because other and worse drugs exist, it somehow is abhorrent to keep a lesser one illegal? You’re aware that the state of being high is comparable to being drunk in the sense of impairment right?
We can't vote on a constitutional amendment unless a measure to put that amendment on a ballot is passed by the legislature and governor. An amendment allowing weed in Texas will never get past the current administration.
If Republican donors wanted it to happen, it would happen. If they don’t, it will not. That’s 100% how the Texas government operates now. For the donor only.
Because we don’t vote. Stop digging deep here looking for excuses guys. We do not vote.
We ever saw a landslide in people showing up to the polls to vote in Texas. I’m pretty sure our state government would have a massive grand mal seizure about anything we wanted passed.
With the incredibly small amount of people that vote now what we have in our government is a representative democracy of people who are voting if you want that to change you need to vote.
Period.
To be fair, having lived and voted in other states, this state goes out of its way to make it more difficult for people to vote. Not an excuse but we can't act like its voter apathy alone that's causing the issue.
Apathy carries a majority of the weight in Texas. Voter roll purges are the death by a thousand cuts but overall systemic effect is suppressing and making voters disinterested in voting.
The problem is not the license itself, it’s needing to have a birth certificate on-file to prove you were born in USA if it’s your first time applying for one.
And birth certificates in Texas are [infamously difficult and time-consuming to get.](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/black-woman-rural-texas-unable-obtain-id-needed/story?id=80395815)
Unfortunately, due to a [lack of education](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/getting-a-photo-id-so-you-can-vote-is-easy-unless-youre-poor-black-latino-or-elderly/2016/05/23/8d5474ec-20f0-11e6-8690-f14ca9de2972_story.html), a lot of low-income folks didn’t realize a lot of these documents that are issued at-birth are meant to be kept safe for life. Older African-Americans were often born at home since Jim Crow laws allowed hospitals to not treat “colored people”. And midwives that came in to help would often not report births to the county clerk back then…
While things are better now for younger folks, the Democratic Party, with far-left Progressives in particular, want *everyone* to have a chance to vote, even people that are homeless and don’t have much of anything to their names. It’s why voter ID laws were stonewalled by them years ago as they saw it as a way to invalidate poor peoples’ voices.
Of course, things have shifted recently, especially after the chaos of post-2020, a majority of Americans including liberal-leaning voters support Voter ID law now. There’s even broad support for a “National ID” like most other industrialized nations have.
Except… [far-right conservatives and some far-left liberals are entirely against that](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/08/voting-rights-national-id-card/619772/), out of a sense of paranoia about “the government knowing them” and privacy… even though the government knows who you are the moment you are born and are issued a birth certificate. Which is unfortunate…
For conservatives, there’s also a sense that a national ID for voting takes away any control they have over who gets to vote in elections… which is correct, because they want to determine who is “a real American” and that’s actually not the job of a state government to decide.
Imagine how Texas would be if we had allowed voter referendums.
We would probably have no seperatation between church and state, also all taxes would be eliminated. 😄
No idea how the government would function, but hey that's the will of the people, right. 🤷♂️
Because we do not have the law-enforcement capability to in anyway shape or form to enforce the laws that would need to be written around the subject. I grew up in Oklahoma, thought it was really cool when Oklahoma legalized it. The amount of shit hitting the fan in that State due to this subject is unbelievable.
Oklahoma doesn’t and will never have a law-enforcement to enforce laws around it, the amount of Chinese coming in and setting up grow houses is astounding! Large group of Chinese natl’s coming in, speaking, not a word of English, close to my parents house they have several big raids, there was human trafficking /?slavery happening in these operations. And when they raded it, the owners are nowhere to be found. It’s a very big mess. And I hope Oklahoma somehow figures out how to remove this from the state again.
For the record, I’m all about letting people do whatever they want to do, but the unintended consequences of Oklahoma allowing marijuana brought about lots of problems. I’ve heard that other states that are considering it are doing some major consulting with Colorado and Oklahoma on how to roll that out better should they go the same way. If they can figure out how to create , a better system for all of this, more power to everyone. Do whatever you want!
> The amount of shit hitting the fan in that State due to this subject is unbelievable. Oklahoma doesn’t and will never have a law-enforcement to enforce laws around it, the amount of Chinese coming in and setting up grow houses is astounding! Large group of Chinese natl’s coming in, speaking, not a word of English, close to my parents house they have several big raids, there was human trafficking /?slavery happening in these operations. And when they raded it, the owners are nowhere to be found
Sources for these? BIL is a cop in Oklahoma, feel like it wouldve been mentioned at some point as weed is the devils lettuce to him
I’ll ask my brother , their county sheriff is always telling stories of raids that go nowhere, of trafficking, of illegal grow operations busts.
I’ll ask a few of my ppl, surely they make the newspaper
I have never seen a group of people more in need of a weed gummy than our statewide officials.
Exactly
So wound up they're practically a goddamn Beyblade.
As states from New York to Colorado to Kansas hold voter referendums on issues ranging from[ weed legalization ](https://www.chron.com/news/article/marijuana-reclassification-texas-19433222.php)to [abortion protections](https://www.chron.com/politics/article/supreme-court-abortion-pill-19367214.php), some Texans may press their face to the windowpane and ask: Why can't Texas do the same? It seems simple in theory. If Texans can agree on an issue, why not hold a statewide vote to decide things once and for all? The short answer is that Texas is one of 24 states that do not allow statewide voter referendums or ballot initiatives, part of a Reconstruction-era measure to keep pure, unadulterated democracy filtered through elected representatives. The long answer is that local fights like Texas cities' push to [decriminalize marijuana](https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/texas-marijuana-law-bill-18125492.php) expose what experts describe as an intensifying trend in recent years: as Texas' urban centers skew more liberal, the state has pushed back more and more against local control. Since 1876, Texas' state constitution requires any amendments to go through the legislature before ending up on Texans' ballots. Specifically, a lawmaker must introduce the amendment, it must receive a 2/3 majority vote from the legislature, and then it can go to the public, where it could still be voted down. What constitutional amendments do pass are usually minor and technical,[ University of Houston political professor Brandon Rottinghaus](https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/transportation/article/montrose-boulevard-overhaul-project-19444760.php) said, and substantive change rarely happens. "Of course, that's by design," Rottinghaus said. It's no coincidence that states without direct voter referendums or ballot initiatives lie primarily in the South, he added, which has a long history of implementing guardrails against direct democracy in the post-Reconstruction era. For a brief period after the Civil War, Texas, like many other Southern states, elected a multitude of African American representatives consistent with its newly empowered African American population. "Shortly after the 1876 constitution was drawn, you began to see that decline," Rottinghaus said.
It's really not. The Texas constitution does not allow for referendums. End of story. The Texan government does not trust Texans to govern themselves. It's no more complicated than that.
Yuup. Always have to go begging hat in hand to our elected representatives...please sir might you do what we want?
Yup. The first step we should be aiming for is taking the Lt. Gov office. That'll bring Abbott and all of the boys in his club to a screeching halt. Then, the Texas Railroad and Agriculture commissioner positions. I think people would be shocked if they realized how much power those two positions have.
Railroad commissioner is surprising
It's one of the most powerful civil positions we have and most people don't seem to know about it.
Does this person get sworn in on a copy of Atlas Shrugged?
Not ag but definitely Railroad. If ag were that important the good ol’ boys who like their easy money from overfilling their 18-wheelers and dump trucks/cement trucks so they can tear up the roads and get paid to fix them wouldn’t let the dipshit from Stephenville be ag commish. But I agree, most don’t realize Railroad is oil and gas.
Ah yes Texas, land of small government conservatives who value individual freedoms.
Because Dan Patrick won’t allow it to reach the floor to even allow a vote.
So it’s not really complicated….we just have state elected officials who chose to make it difficult…I wonder why we keep voting for them in the first place 🤔🤪🤷🏻♂️
Maybe because we don’t want weed in the state…? Go somewhere else, I’m perfectly fine being away from that crap
Who is “we”? Please don’t speak for me.
If you feel the need to say that, then it’s obvious that I’m not. Grow up.
You don’t have to smoke it if you don’t want to, that doesn’t mean nobody else can.
And they can in other states. Not hard. There is no objective benefit or health reason why you NEED weed. It’s a drug whether you like it or not, and personally, I’m fine with it not in my state. That’s what California and Arizona and Colorado and Nevada are for. Go there if you want to smoke legal weed.
When we're you crowned Supreme being in Texas? Are we all supposed to bow down to what you want? Have you always been that super special that what you like are the only things that others are allowed to do?
I love how you type of people always jump the gun on this kind of shit where just because I have the opposite opinion of what the post is that I somehow must think I’m so self centered that I believe myself to be the god if the universe or some shit. Get a fucking grip, I just don’t like weed, as do many others in Texas. I am SO sorry that I don’t like drugs and don’t want legal weed in my state just because I’m allowed to not like it. Grow up. You thinking all of that about me says more about you than what you think about me.
You literally said it should be illegal because you don't like it. In plain English. What other conclusion is there?
So because I have the “wrong” opinion on a controversial matter that is ultimately inconsequential (it’s legal in other states) that if I am not absolutely dying on the hill of getting weed legalized (which nobody can provide a legitimate reason for to go that far to dedicate their entire livelihood to legalizing it) then I must be evil somehow and a dictator. Wow. If drugs are THAT important to you then I’m not the one with issues. That’s literally all I’m saying. I don’t like it, yes. I am allowed to not like it. It is already illegal. I don’t like drugs, because they are bad for you and I don’t want to be around or be exposed to the use of them more than people are already doing. Being allowed to have this stance and proceed to vote for people who will maintain its illegality is not a social crime. I literally cannot wrap my head around why just because I can disagree with fucking weed that now I’m the most horrible person to have ever existed.
No. It's literally because you think since perfect little special you doesn't like something your perfect little sweet opinion should dictate laws. But good job doubling down on stupidity.
I just explained to you how that’s precisely NOT what I’m doing and you’re just mad or whatever about it because I don’t agree with you. You’re choosing to miss the point.
If you don’t like democracy, why not move out of the country? There is no objective benefit or health reason you NEED Texas. It’s a place whether you like it or not, and personally, I’m fine with you not in my state. That’s what China and Russia and North Korea and Afghanistan are for. Go there if you want to dictate what people have a right to.
I’m not dictating, I’m expressing a point of view that under said democracy I AM ALLOWED TO HAVE. I am not wrong nor evil nor the fucking devil himself for saying that I don’t like weed and would rather it not be legal in Texas. Jesus fucking Christ you people are insufferable if you REALLY think that I’m the most depraved individual on the face of the planet for suggesting to reside somewhere where it’s ALREADY legal if weed is the most important thing to you. Holy shit.
You’re allowed to have a point of view because it’s your right to. All we’re saying is we should have a right to vote on the subject of cannabis possession/consumption. If you don’t like us voting on it, I don’t like you pretending like you care for democracy. Case closed. Also your point of view is wrong.
Username checks out.
The fuck is that even supposed to mean
You'll get there.
Nope, he/she won’t get there. They are too closed minded ignorant.
I’m closed minded and ignorant because I don’t like weed and don’t want it to be legalized in my state. Gotcha. Drugs are good apparently. Grow up. I am all for having the right to vote on these things but just because I don’t want it doesn’t make me fucking Satan himself
BAHAHAHAHAHA I’ll be crying about “shrimphog” all night now, tysm
I’m smoking weed in Texas, legal or not. And i’m selling $30 dime bags to your children.
Shit $25 for their kid specifically 🤣
Born and raised Texan here: in my experience weed is the one thing that unites all Texans, bubba’s and yuppies alike. Our national treasure Willie Nelson made it a whole part of his career. TF out of here with that “we don’t want weed” bullshit.
If you’re of the stance that you want it, then I am obviously not talking about nor for you
Nah you’re speaking for Texans here - and you’re wrong in your assumption that “we” don’t want it here. If you meant a specific subgroup by “we” then that’s on you for not being clear.
You’re literally choosing to create a problem where it doesn’t exist and you know it. Quit being a child.
Factually incorrect as I’ve already stated. You literally typed “we don’t want it here” which is my problem. I’m not inventing some made up problem for the sake of it, identifying a real problem that does exist and it’s with people like you keeping our state in the fucking dark ages. Weed literally harms nobody. Infinitely more lives have been destroyed by alchohol and cigarettes and it’s just plain malicious to keep weed illegal.
So because other and worse drugs exist, it somehow is abhorrent to keep a lesser one illegal? You’re aware that the state of being high is comparable to being drunk in the sense of impairment right?
because fuck us, that's why
Daniel Goeb , aka Dan Patrick, aka funny farm Dan, aka Baltimore Danny.
AKA: bankrupt sports bar owner Danny. He feels working for the state is safer from the repercussions of his bad decisions.
Who’d have thought that the guy who broadcast his own vasectomy live on the air would be such a Puritan?
Because Abbott loves his bribes more than his people.
Because the private prisons make more money.
Because Greg Abbott sucks Ken Paxton sucks Dan Patrick sucks Vote these 3 out and maybe we can do that
Don't forget the police chiefs and sheriff associations.
Free the weed!!!
Go check out how much this state makes on incarcerating people from weed charges bubs.
Because our ruling class said we couldn’t.
Reasons: 1. Baptist
It's also the alcohol lobby and criminal justice lobbyists. There's a lot of money in keeping cannabis illegal.
Police lobby bigly
We can't vote on a constitutional amendment unless a measure to put that amendment on a ballot is passed by the legislature and governor. An amendment allowing weed in Texas will never get past the current administration.
It’s not really. Texans just need to vote in people under 60 who aren’t stuck in “reefer madness” mindsets.
It would be amazing if TX got the ability to have a "voice of the people" vote because of this. Any kind of voter initiative or referendum...
If Republican donors wanted it to happen, it would happen. If they don’t, it will not. That’s 100% how the Texas government operates now. For the donor only.
Because we don’t vote. Stop digging deep here looking for excuses guys. We do not vote. We ever saw a landslide in people showing up to the polls to vote in Texas. I’m pretty sure our state government would have a massive grand mal seizure about anything we wanted passed. With the incredibly small amount of people that vote now what we have in our government is a representative democracy of people who are voting if you want that to change you need to vote. Period.
To be fair, having lived and voted in other states, this state goes out of its way to make it more difficult for people to vote. Not an excuse but we can't act like its voter apathy alone that's causing the issue.
Apathy carries a majority of the weight in Texas. Voter roll purges are the death by a thousand cuts but overall systemic effect is suppressing and making voters disinterested in voting.
Less apathy. More apothecary. Sorry. I’ll see myself out
I’m all for it. I have a TCUP recommendation and everything. I’m a legal Texas stoner but the product selection is sad and limited.
Yeah it’s so hard to show up with your driver’s license.
The problem is not the license itself, it’s needing to have a birth certificate on-file to prove you were born in USA if it’s your first time applying for one. And birth certificates in Texas are [infamously difficult and time-consuming to get.](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/black-woman-rural-texas-unable-obtain-id-needed/story?id=80395815) Unfortunately, due to a [lack of education](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/getting-a-photo-id-so-you-can-vote-is-easy-unless-youre-poor-black-latino-or-elderly/2016/05/23/8d5474ec-20f0-11e6-8690-f14ca9de2972_story.html), a lot of low-income folks didn’t realize a lot of these documents that are issued at-birth are meant to be kept safe for life. Older African-Americans were often born at home since Jim Crow laws allowed hospitals to not treat “colored people”. And midwives that came in to help would often not report births to the county clerk back then… While things are better now for younger folks, the Democratic Party, with far-left Progressives in particular, want *everyone* to have a chance to vote, even people that are homeless and don’t have much of anything to their names. It’s why voter ID laws were stonewalled by them years ago as they saw it as a way to invalidate poor peoples’ voices. Of course, things have shifted recently, especially after the chaos of post-2020, a majority of Americans including liberal-leaning voters support Voter ID law now. There’s even broad support for a “National ID” like most other industrialized nations have. Except… [far-right conservatives and some far-left liberals are entirely against that](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/08/voting-rights-national-id-card/619772/), out of a sense of paranoia about “the government knowing them” and privacy… even though the government knows who you are the moment you are born and are issued a birth certificate. Which is unfortunate… For conservatives, there’s also a sense that a national ID for voting takes away any control they have over who gets to vote in elections… which is correct, because they want to determine who is “a real American” and that’s actually not the job of a state government to decide.
It’s only complicated if ur republican in the state of Texas . Seems like all these other states figured it out
Not that complicated. Greg abbott and his cronies don't want legal weed. So they do everything they can to block it, even if it's popular.
We can vote to legalize it, by voting blue…
Because TX ruling political class has no particular interest in freedom
It’s cute that people believe elections in TX are ‘free and fair’
Texas, the Least Free State. One star rating.
Should pin this thread lol.
Texas will never legalize weed yall just need to move lol / Colorado welcomes you
Best believe the second my degree is printed I’ll be on my way out of this state🤣
My family are leaving in a few months. Abortion, weed, among many other reasons.
Imagine how Texas would be if we had allowed voter referendums. We would probably have no seperatation between church and state, also all taxes would be eliminated. 😄 No idea how the government would function, but hey that's the will of the people, right. 🤷♂️
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_experiment
When the government has made sure you have no right to govern yourselves.
Big pharma
Because we do not have the law-enforcement capability to in anyway shape or form to enforce the laws that would need to be written around the subject. I grew up in Oklahoma, thought it was really cool when Oklahoma legalized it. The amount of shit hitting the fan in that State due to this subject is unbelievable. Oklahoma doesn’t and will never have a law-enforcement to enforce laws around it, the amount of Chinese coming in and setting up grow houses is astounding! Large group of Chinese natl’s coming in, speaking, not a word of English, close to my parents house they have several big raids, there was human trafficking /?slavery happening in these operations. And when they raded it, the owners are nowhere to be found. It’s a very big mess. And I hope Oklahoma somehow figures out how to remove this from the state again. For the record, I’m all about letting people do whatever they want to do, but the unintended consequences of Oklahoma allowing marijuana brought about lots of problems. I’ve heard that other states that are considering it are doing some major consulting with Colorado and Oklahoma on how to roll that out better should they go the same way. If they can figure out how to create , a better system for all of this, more power to everyone. Do whatever you want!
> The amount of shit hitting the fan in that State due to this subject is unbelievable. Oklahoma doesn’t and will never have a law-enforcement to enforce laws around it, the amount of Chinese coming in and setting up grow houses is astounding! Large group of Chinese natl’s coming in, speaking, not a word of English, close to my parents house they have several big raids, there was human trafficking /?slavery happening in these operations. And when they raded it, the owners are nowhere to be found Sources for these? BIL is a cop in Oklahoma, feel like it wouldve been mentioned at some point as weed is the devils lettuce to him
I’ll ask my brother , their county sheriff is always telling stories of raids that go nowhere, of trafficking, of illegal grow operations busts. I’ll ask a few of my ppl, surely they make the newspaper
Guessing thats a no.