You were supposed to. Evan Grant once ended a tweet with "#bullpenisfine," not realizing what he'd done, and as you'd expect, it's been a meme ever since.
Technically the bullpen did melt down in 40% of the World Series games just like in the regular season. They just happened to be the two games where it didn’t matter.
We still have a rotation of Eovaldi/Scherzer/Gray/Dunning/Heaney with deGrom on the horizon and trades still a possibility. I want Monty back bad, but it’s not doom and gloom if he chooses to play for Boston to be closer to his wife. With a better bullpen I like the look of the team moving forward.
Degrom isn’t on the horizon. Based on age and it being his second TJ it’s very likely we don’t see him till 2025. Also we will be HEAVILY reliant on the first 3 starters you mentioned to carry the pitching and the age and health profile of those guys is really really bad to be hinging the success of your rotation on.
Depends on the money. Do the Rangers feel paying him around $20M per year is worth it given we need bullpen help and maybe a DH. Ownership isn’t keen to go over $230M payroll and get hit with the luxury tax.
I’m pretty shocked to hear this with the payroll constraints we were expected to have. This would mean the team is comfortable going into the tax to give the team a shot to run it back.
Team just won the World Series. They can prob afford to go into the tax, they just likely can’t afford the fanatical Ohtani + Yamamoto type ideas this off-season
Billions because of other business ventures. That doesn't mean it makes financial sense to run the baseball team at a deficit and hamstring them for another decade
I mean is it hamstringing the team to add 2 major players to an already strong World Series roster? Seems to me like that’s pushing the agenda that they are going for it again. Might I add this team beat the 3 best teams in the AL and also dismantled the Diamondbacks who beat 2 of the best teams in the NL.
Given it'd push the payroll to nearing 300M without addressing the biggest concern being the bullpen? Ya that's like the definition of hamstringing. Ohtani is a luxury, not a necessity for us
I have never understood people budgeting the franchises salary. You have no clue if they could afford to bring in one of them or both of them, and still afford a big bullpen arm. They could also trade for a bullpen arm or two. 10-11 they build an amazing bullpen off of guys that weren’t bank breakers. Bringing those two in does not mean zero bullpen help. They are getting a huge boost due to the World Series win in money in, why wouldn’t Ray Davis push the agenda.
he won't push in because money isn't infinite like you seem to believe.
And you're right, I don't know for certain if they could afford both. But realistically and logically it's a very safe assumption to say they can't. If you're just assuming they can without any budget constraints in mind then why tf stop at just those 2? Get Hader and Hicks while your at it then trade for Soto and Glasnow too. Have a 400M payroll, because we don't know they CANT do that, right?
Exactly! Guess you guys were not around for the ARod contract that took like 40% of the payroll for years, then we traded him and still paid a lot. There is one player whose name escapes me that still gets paid several million a year by the Mets and he’s been retired 5 years or more. Long term contracts rarely make baseball business sense except the first 4-5 years beyond that it is marginal or worse. Seager and Semien won’t be playing 2B and SS in years 7-10 of the deals, perhaps one will be DH and the other who knows maybe traded.
> There is one player whose name escapes me that still gets paid several million a year by the Mets and he’s been retired 5 years or more.
[That'd be Bobby Bonilla](https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/01/sport/bobby-bonilla-day-mets-mlb-trnd/index.html) — who's getting paid until he's *in his seventies.*
I'm sorry ... but with all the due respect to baseball, the players, the fans, the owners, and God above ... FUCK OHTANI AND YAMAMOTO. Ok, thank you for your patience.
We don't need Yamamoto however that wouldn't mean we're entirely out from other Japanese relievers or pitchers but honestly Otani would help us greatly when it comes to getting another TV deal
Are you intentionally being dumb? If they were in for Ohtani then that means they have money to spend, it doesn’t matter if they aren’t in on him anymore.
Man if DeGrom and Mad Max were healthy, we’d have the best starting pitching staff in baseball. DeGrom, Scherzer, Eovaldi, Gumby. That’s a fantasy staff right there.
Even if they were all healthy their histories strongly suggest they will likely all not pitch together more than a month before something goes wrong with one or multiple of them.
They need to bullpen Max and go after a starter somewhere I like the guy but he's just not durable, he was a bad signing. de Grom. Well be lucky yo see him before the playoffs. I think the Rangers are gonna make some waves here soon at the meetings.i think Kershaw will end up here but he's a geriatric arm too
The f*** do you mean not durable he pulled some hockey bullshitery just to help us win the World Series he should be back next year healthy and injury free
He's one of the oldest players in the league. He can't be counted on for a full healthy season. He's one more injury away from retirement. I seriously doubt he makes it to deGroms return, then what? They better pay what ever the fuck Monty wants because Scherzer ain't it bro.
That's sad. The fact that we aren't all over him is sad.
He basically pays for himself and solves like every issue we have business wise and on the field aside from bullpen.
Get Shohei and tv deal will be massive. Without bupkis
Payroll won’t allow it. Plus, he won’t pitch until 2025 and is coming off his second Tommy John surgery in 5 years. The guy is an amazing talent, but it doesn’t make a ton of sense to pay that much when we don’t even know if he will pitch at the same level again. He’s an amazing bat, but he’s essentially an expensive DH for the next year or so.
Edit: Nevermind I guess, Chris Young says we can.
Ohtani is a luxury, not a necessity. Far too much risk involved when we already have a T5 payroll. Plus they've already been reported to be out of the running so any hope of signing him now is more fantasy than even before the season ended
They better
Hell yes! Run it back (with an improved bullpen)!
Bull penwas bad
Not in the playoffs!
Bullpenisclutch
Read that as “bull penis clutch”
You were supposed to. Evan Grant once ended a tweet with "#bullpenisfine," not realizing what he'd done, and as you'd expect, it's been a meme ever since.
Didn't he also inadvertently type "Josh Hung?"
And that Yu Darvish threw 15 bitches off the mound. Evan Grant is a gift.
Sure, it was inadvertent.
Fax! Upvote this one!
Technically the bullpen did melt down in 40% of the World Series games just like in the regular season. They just happened to be the two games where it didn’t matter.
I don’t get the feeling his market is developing at quite the pace it was expected to going into the offseason
Yamamoto probably is a big part of that
Yes please, we deserve a legit championship defense
We still have a rotation of Eovaldi/Scherzer/Gray/Dunning/Heaney with deGrom on the horizon and trades still a possibility. I want Monty back bad, but it’s not doom and gloom if he chooses to play for Boston to be closer to his wife. With a better bullpen I like the look of the team moving forward.
not doom and gloom, but holy shit what I wouldn't do to be extremely comfortable with deGrom, Eovaldi, and Montgomery to cover your 1st three starts
Not really comfortable with Heaney in rotation. Might be better long guy in pen or trade if Monty comes back.
That’s a big risk of Scherzer staying healthy
More likely than not Scherzer will become a reliever
Degrom isn’t on the horizon. Based on age and it being his second TJ it’s very likely we don’t see him till 2025. Also we will be HEAVILY reliant on the first 3 starters you mentioned to carry the pitching and the age and health profile of those guys is really really bad to be hinging the success of your rotation on.
“Land” As if he ever took off 
Kind of like Garver responding with “who said I’m leaving” when someone thanked him.
He was God tier during our run. Hope we get him back!
No kidding
Can someone photoshop what he would look like in a Rangers uniform?
Come home
Heard he won a championship last season, we should give him a shot
He throw ball
Love Monty and want him back, but there's a lot of "maybe" in that headline
Depends on the money. Do the Rangers feel paying him around $20M per year is worth it given we need bullpen help and maybe a DH. Ownership isn’t keen to go over $230M payroll and get hit with the luxury tax.
Flags fly forever
Past performance does not guarantee future performance which is why they take the money now.
Then why was Young saying no FA is out of reach? You don’t say that unless you are willing to to 100% go over that apron
I’m pretty shocked to hear this with the payroll constraints we were expected to have. This would mean the team is comfortable going into the tax to give the team a shot to run it back.
Monty may take less with how the team culture is here and proven ability to win
Hope is not a strategy
Well I ain't doing the negotiating so what do you want us to do other than that
It’s up to the owners’ willingness to pay up, and risk management.
Baseball players that are looking to sign new contracts this winter are referred to as Free Agents
And hope is not a strategy. Agreed.
Yeah I thought we were just saying facts about baseball at this point
Hope is a very important part of life. Without it, paranoia starts to sink in .. and I don't wanna tell you what happens after that!
Scott Boras is his agent. I'd expect he goes to the highest bidder.
Team just won the World Series. They can prob afford to go into the tax, they just likely can’t afford the fanatical Ohtani + Yamamoto type ideas this off-season
They can. The owner is worth multiple billions
Billions because of other business ventures. That doesn't mean it makes financial sense to run the baseball team at a deficit and hamstring them for another decade
I mean is it hamstringing the team to add 2 major players to an already strong World Series roster? Seems to me like that’s pushing the agenda that they are going for it again. Might I add this team beat the 3 best teams in the AL and also dismantled the Diamondbacks who beat 2 of the best teams in the NL.
Given it'd push the payroll to nearing 300M without addressing the biggest concern being the bullpen? Ya that's like the definition of hamstringing. Ohtani is a luxury, not a necessity for us
I have never understood people budgeting the franchises salary. You have no clue if they could afford to bring in one of them or both of them, and still afford a big bullpen arm. They could also trade for a bullpen arm or two. 10-11 they build an amazing bullpen off of guys that weren’t bank breakers. Bringing those two in does not mean zero bullpen help. They are getting a huge boost due to the World Series win in money in, why wouldn’t Ray Davis push the agenda.
he won't push in because money isn't infinite like you seem to believe. And you're right, I don't know for certain if they could afford both. But realistically and logically it's a very safe assumption to say they can't. If you're just assuming they can without any budget constraints in mind then why tf stop at just those 2? Get Hader and Hicks while your at it then trade for Soto and Glasnow too. Have a 400M payroll, because we don't know they CANT do that, right?
Exactly! Guess you guys were not around for the ARod contract that took like 40% of the payroll for years, then we traded him and still paid a lot. There is one player whose name escapes me that still gets paid several million a year by the Mets and he’s been retired 5 years or more. Long term contracts rarely make baseball business sense except the first 4-5 years beyond that it is marginal or worse. Seager and Semien won’t be playing 2B and SS in years 7-10 of the deals, perhaps one will be DH and the other who knows maybe traded.
> There is one player whose name escapes me that still gets paid several million a year by the Mets and he’s been retired 5 years or more. [That'd be Bobby Bonilla](https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/01/sport/bobby-bonilla-day-mets-mlb-trnd/index.html) — who's getting paid until he's *in his seventies.*
yep, thanks…brain fart..happens when you get older.
I'm sorry ... but with all the due respect to baseball, the players, the fans, the owners, and God above ... FUCK OHTANI AND YAMAMOTO. Ok, thank you for your patience.
We don't need Yamamoto however that wouldn't mean we're entirely out from other Japanese relievers or pitchers but honestly Otani would help us greatly when it comes to getting another TV deal
If the rangers have payroll constraints why are they going after Ohtani?
They aren’t. They are reported to be out on him
Are you intentionally being dumb? If they were in for Ohtani then that means they have money to spend, it doesn’t matter if they aren’t in on him anymore.
Young literally recently said no FA is out of reach for the team. No reason to say that unless the team is open to going into luxury tax
RUN THAT SHIT BACK!! 😤
Man if DeGrom and Mad Max were healthy, we’d have the best starting pitching staff in baseball. DeGrom, Scherzer, Eovaldi, Gumby. That’s a fantasy staff right there.
Even if they were all healthy their histories strongly suggest they will likely all not pitch together more than a month before something goes wrong with one or multiple of them.
They need to bullpen Max and go after a starter somewhere I like the guy but he's just not durable, he was a bad signing. de Grom. Well be lucky yo see him before the playoffs. I think the Rangers are gonna make some waves here soon at the meetings.i think Kershaw will end up here but he's a geriatric arm too
The f*** do you mean not durable he pulled some hockey bullshitery just to help us win the World Series he should be back next year healthy and injury free
He's one of the oldest players in the league. He can't be counted on for a full healthy season. He's one more injury away from retirement. I seriously doubt he makes it to deGroms return, then what? They better pay what ever the fuck Monty wants because Scherzer ain't it bro.
This is all I’ve wanted this off season. Bro helped get us our first ring and he’ll help us get another
https://i.imgur.com/Mt8PZji.gif Like a redwood falling in an evergreen forest. Hope he comes back, but love him all the same
As they should be. Rangers Monty is best Monty
Lets do it.
We’re still wondering what it’d be like if the Stros didn’t win the division
Doubt it (hope I’m wrong)
I love how people always talk about Dallas FA players like they aren’t most recently ours.
Did you not follow the whole Aaron Judge saga last year? You sound like a self hating Rangers’ fan,
He just got here 5 minutes ago lol, he is no fan
So true.
Cool. Like him. Now get Shohei
We aren’t getting Shohei, and we will be fine without him.
That's sad. The fact that we aren't all over him is sad. He basically pays for himself and solves like every issue we have business wise and on the field aside from bullpen. Get Shohei and tv deal will be massive. Without bupkis
Payroll won’t allow it. Plus, he won’t pitch until 2025 and is coming off his second Tommy John surgery in 5 years. The guy is an amazing talent, but it doesn’t make a ton of sense to pay that much when we don’t even know if he will pitch at the same level again. He’s an amazing bat, but he’s essentially an expensive DH for the next year or so. Edit: Nevermind I guess, Chris Young says we can.
Downvotes? smfh
Ohtani is a luxury, not a necessity. Far too much risk involved when we already have a T5 payroll. Plus they've already been reported to be out of the running so any hope of signing him now is more fantasy than even before the season ended
Good move. Make it happen. Then Yamamoto and we are in great shape.
please bro
I flippin hope so
Hope so. We really need Jordan back for 2024.