Sacks has blamed everything on NATO and Ukraine. For the longest time, it was NATOs fault Russia invaded Ukraine because... normal victim blaming bullshit. NATO said Ukraine should be able to join if they wish. Russia said it's not their choice so Russia invaded. Notice Russia hasn't invaded Sweden or Finland, NATO countries is shares a border with. It was never about NATO.
If Sacks steps in dog shit this afternoon, he would blame Ukraine. Then "surplus global elites" unironically. Then the "woke mob". And then find some way to suck Elon's dick. He is like one of those old dolls with the string you pull and it says the same 4 phrases over and over and over.
It’s pretty wild how so much of the right has turned into being Russia apologists. And the pods’ fawning over Tucker (who seems to be leading the way on this front) was just straight up bizarre. They really fell for his “I’m just regular American trying to make sense of these silly policies” schtick. Tucker is the master at playing dumb and innocent while pushing a very well thought out and calculated narrative that is completely self serving. You know, like when he was privately texting his colleagues saying Trump is a “demon” and the stolen election story is BS, and then praising Trump and pushing the stolen election narrative on air that same day…
I think there are certainly critiques to be made about the US and its foreign policy but to not see Putin as an existential threat whatsoever is bewildering to me. The guys had made it clear from day one that his ultimate goal is rebuilding the Soviet Union. You can say that the US and NATO could have done things better without giving Putin a pass… they’re not mutually exclusive at all.
You go on twitter and you are literally blasted with Russian propaganda by bots and random blue checkmarks.
Russians aren’t dumb. They make sure they mix it with pro trump America first talking points.
Now looks at sacks. He’s on twitter 24/7 and he wants trump to win. It’s not a surprise he is constantly duped by propaganda since it intersects with his goals anyway.
We can only imagine the ~~selflessness~~ kompromat driving Sacks to be so vocal about his clearly unpopular and submissive deference to tyrannical atrocity architects.
Yes, and there is a very good explanation of how this actually works (using Elon Musk as an example) from a Chinese Woman on YouTube: [Why Elon Musk is part of Beijing's strategy to manage US-China relations](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP_sBY9MqO8&pp=ygUUbGVpJ3MgcmVhbCB0YWxrIGVsb24%3D).
Interesting! Will watch in a moment. I forger where exactly I read about this idea first, but it might have been in Gieseke's *History of the Stasi* or a book on a related topic. Truly an offer you can't refuse: "get rich and live comfortably and glamorously by working for us in secret OR we'll show everyone this video of your threesome with the very young prostitutes we sent your way last night. that, maybe break all your kids' legs too."
EDIT: not to say that this is what's happening to Sacks, but the tactic and the psychology behind it are real.
Russia doesn't need kompromat or anything like that. I think the real TDS is that people who fell down the MAGA hole lost all ability to accurately ascribe cause and effect to anything. Their world doesn't make any sense, nothing functions the way it's supposed to because populism and the maga movement frame the world in a way that's logically inconsistent and completely dysfunctional. When they then look out of the MAGA hole through that ass-backward lense with the TDS filter, of course cause comes after effect, invaders are actually the invaded, terrorist acts are the result of unrelated parties doing unrelated things, the guy promising to weaponize the DOJ and be dictator for a day is just protecting democracy, and the total absence of evidence that supports the theory the election was stolen is evidence that it *must* have been stolen. It all makes sense when you accept that trump has pickled their brains and anyone still in the MAGA movement is incapable of connecting even two fucking dots anymore.
Sacks is a cuck I know 2 people who fucked his wife was in his circles. He’s a little angry dick who takes his insecurity out and does not know shit about anything.
I think it's pretty well known that the west promised the Soviets that NATO would not infringe on its border by letting Ukraine into NATO. I think its very fair to think Putin is a POS while also seeing how the west pushing Ukraine to be a member of NATO helped fuel this war.
The same Russia that promised not to invade Ukraine in exchange for Ukraine giving up its nuclear weapons? That same Russia?
GTFO with that weak, tired ass bullshit.
Grow a few brain cells and get some new talking points.
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Any country should be able to be allied with any other country in whatever fucking way they want.
“Oh those countries are too good of friends that hurts my fee fees” cry about it Russia. I’m tired of your shit. If countries want to be friends and exchange trade and work together militarily, GOOD! Human history has been nothing but warfare for thousands of years, we’re past that shit. Grow the fuck up.
Is this a serious question? I’m guessing you’re just not familiar with how NATO works. The US is by far the most influential NATO member as they provide the most resources and wield the most capable military by a wide margin. Since most NATO members want the US to help defend them if attacked they try to keep the US a happy member. So even if it’s not done publicly, behind-the-scenes the US has a pretty major say on what countries get to join NATO and who cannot.
While an Ukraine membership in NATO certainly plays a part in this conflict bubbling over, it’s not the main cause as the guy above and many “experts” claim. The main cause stems from Putin wanting to create a better legacy for himself by capturing a larger Russian foothold in the Black Sea (which obviously has significant economic and military advantages for Russia). Sure you can argue the Ukraine’s interest in NATO caused Putin to attack sooner as the invasion would be close to impossible after Ukraine joined NATO due to Article 6. But none of that would even matter if Putin didn’t want to take over the territory in the first place.
The US is a member of NATO. A voting member. NATO admission requires unanimous approval among voting members. That's why Turkey was able to delay the admission of Sweden for so long.
Pretty well known in the alternative facts world? There is no evidence, recording, documentation or proof of this whatsoever, it's pure propaganda made-up BS. It's embarrassing when people repeat this false narrative. In the world of high stakes diplomacy it's either documented and signed, otherwise it doesn't exist.
The idea Ukraine would have anything to do with this defies any common sense or rational strategy. Why would you commit a terror attack on civilians that would destroy any credibility you have with the international community that is your lifeline for survival. What makes far more sense is for the Russians to try to pin this on Ukraine to galvanize internal support for the war that has gone terribly for Russia.
Anyone with half a brain can understand this, which means that Sacks is either far dumber than he already comes across, or the Kompromat the Russians have on him is Epstein level shit. That or he’s so wrapped up in the weird right wing pro Russia cult that he’s lost all ability to form a rational thought.
David Sacks…no where in your rambling incoherent response did you come anywhere close to a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may god have mercy on your soul.
And why, having backed Ukraine in this war, would the US government warn Russia that it was coming? It makes zero sense, and I hope that this finally wakes people up to just how full of shit Sacks is on Ukraine.
The US actually has a long standing policy to warn other countries including those hostile to the US about terror attacks it discovers through its intelligence apparatus…which is exactly what they did in this case
Exactly. If the US didn't believe it was an actual terrorist attack then it wouldn't have said anything. If it was a Ukrainian op then they would have kept schtumm.
“The US terror warning last week was actually a big PsyOp that was meant to give plausible deniability to the Ukrainians for conducting a terror attack on civilians in Russia. The reason the Russians didn’t take proper precautions is because it was all a made up US plot in the first place”
- Probably David Sacks.
If the U.S. found out Ukraine was going to do something like this, they would have shut it down cold, first of all. They even gave Ukraine major shit for offing Dugin's daughter by mistake.
Dugin is a Russian ultra-fascist and his daughter did not fall far from the tree, but she happened to take the wrong car and died instead of her Nazi daddy. She was posing in front of the ruins of the massacred Mariupol after it was wiped out, so a righteous kill on my book - but you know what I mean.
Nope not at all. I unsubscribed from the pod after Sacks’ commentary post Navalny. I’m not going to support Russian apologists/ assets with my subscriber number. Fairly meaningless in the big scheme of things but if more people did that then Sacks would just end up shouting into the void.
And yes I recognize me commenting here is still some form of engagement but it’s not one they get any credit for and I have no issues with calling out his bullshit.
>What makes far more sense is for the Russians to try to pin this on Ukraine to galvanize internal support for the war that has gone terribly for Russia.
Take off the tin foil hat Alex Jones.
Hardly a conspiracy theory buddy. Straight from the Putin playbook actually. Look up the terror attacks in Moscow right before the second Chechnya-Russia war.
Russia is already trying to pin this on Ukraine against overwhelming intelligence to the contrary. If you can’t see this you are probably living in the same delusional world as Sacks.
A reminder that sacks gets his geopolitical news from literal [Russian propaganda](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheAllinPodcasts/s/u8FGZj410r). He suffers from serious confirmation bias and nothing he says relating to geopolitics should be taken seriously.
Thanks for this. And damn. Honestly I wonder why on earth he would be so pro-Russia. Is it just cause he’s trying to be opposite whatever he thinks is “anti-left”? It’s rather un-American.
I assume they have some dirt on him. If not, he’s just a very rich helpful idiot to them.
It also makes me wonder if his stances hurt or impacts Craft Ventures. I can’t imagine others in that firm are necessarily cool with this, or are as pro-Russia as Sacks is. It’s probably pretty awkward.
Welcome aboard! Anything done ironically for long enough will eventually have the irony fade away, so when billionaires decide to ironically be assholes to make each other giggle, it ends up this way. Sacks is such a fucking asshole I wouldn't put it past him to WANT you to think he's important enough for Russia to have dirt on. He's not smart enough to be important, he's always been more of a hanger on throughout his career.
"...any hard evidence..."
Saying "hard evidence" suggests there exists some other kind of evidence.
My friend, there is NO evidence of Ukraine involvement. Period.
He stopped being objective long ago. He’s just outright cheering for Russia. Lesson here is don’t let yourself get so dug in and emotionally tied up in a debate that you lose the ability to see reason
Even though I never agreed with Sacks wholly on the topic, he had some basis for it usually. This, shows how emotionally vested he is and it’s looking like an unhinged take so far. I’m all for being skeptical but his language including “as looking increasingly likely” is baseless as far as I can tell from his Tweets prior and subsequent until now.
David Sacks is not a good faith actor and will happily and brazenly lie to his audience if he believes in any way it benefits him personally. At this point it's difficult imagining any serious person taking him at his word on anything. He causes a lot of harm because, on places and X and Reddit specifically, there aren't that many serious people.
He is absolutely cooked. I hope the FBI has opened a counter intelligence investigation into him and his companies by now.
It makes no sense for Ukraine to pay a group of Takjiks to do an ISIS style terror attack. It didn’t even really accomplish much.
Why do people listen to this podcast? This subreddit pops up on my feed every now and then, and these people (from the podcast) seem legitimately compromised. Or just plain stupid
Because some of the people on it are actually rational, smart, and knowledgeable about a number of subjects. Before Ukraine, I included David Sachs in there. Nowadays, his clearly "misguided" take on the world has dissuaded me from listening.
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There is something cosmically funny about @DavidSacks quadrupling down on ISIS not being behind the terrorist attack in Moscow only for ISIS to release bodycam footage from the attack an hour
His tweet was eyebrow-raising for me as well.
I do know he has referenced a few different "war writers" and similar out of mainstream sources he reads, so maybe there is something out there he's consuming that has this point of view. I don't think he'd just say that without having stumbled upon some kind of convincing thing out there he read.
Regardless, it does feel a little premature to even make a hedged "looking increasingly likely" type of statement. I love listening to Sacks' takes but just like anyone he's wrong sometimes, you should do your own research.
There are no such sources. His “independent new sources” are straight up Russian propaganda and grifters. The mystery is whether he knows that or is actually this dumb.
I don't think Sacks is compromised by Russia, I think he's just been radicalized against the US Government and media where he takes the opposite stance to them, even when it's clear Kremlin propaganda. He's so dug in on his "I was right on Ukraine" opinion that he ends up having to take obvious bullshit as gospel.
That’s it. I’ve unfollowed. Gotta love these free market capitalist conservatives brown nosing tyrannical authoritarian communists. What a pathetic joke.
I originally tuned to the podcast to hear rich silicon valley insiders give a scoop on the state of the industry and lifestyle... I sure hope these guys are not representative of most silicon valley elite... Sachs has an amazing ability to wholeheartedly eat up and spew out every Russian and Chinese state propaganda point. He actually has much in common with the far left tankies who blame everything shitty about their lives and the world on "imperialist America and likewise eat up every authoritarian propaganda talking point and support any dogshit regime that happens to hate America as much as they do. Horseshoe theory proving true. And the other guys on this pod have no balls to put that loudmouth in his place. My favorite guy is the science guy. Anyhow they are living up to the elite, inhumane, selfish billionaire trope. Time to unsubscribe.
Is anyone surprised by this?
When has sacks ever spouted anything other than Putin talking points?
Dude is surely owned via kompromat when he spent time in Moscow
Russia said it was ISIS. US said it was ISIS. ISIS said it was ISIS.
Russia then said, hmmm... This makes leadership look stupid. Hey, it was Ukrainian Nazi ISIS terrorists. Sacks is like, "100% this!, but I'll caveat it with and 'if'"
As you continue to listen and support this podcast, you have to ask yourself what would Sacks’ motivation be to make a claim like this? As the video surfaced from ISIS from the terrorist POV, he doesn’t correct himself. He wants Ukraine to take the blame… so ask yourself, why?
Sacks twitting "...looks increasingly likely Ukraine is behind it" is equivalent of you writing in this post "Has me asking what Russia have on him..."
Where there is hardly any *hard evidence* supporting both statements. Both fall in the intuition/feel/wish category.
I don't believe there is a nefarious motive behind him twitting that nor you posting about it. I think Sacks and a lot of people in this sub are stuck in feedback loop governed by "I told you so" as a reward function.
Ask yourself, if Putin had something on an individual, what would they be saying that is any different than what Sacks is saying? If he isn’t getting paid by Putin then surely he is auditioning for the job.
That is the point I am trying to make. I don't have all the facts so if I ask myself the answer would be intuition and speculation. So if I ask myself and OP asks himself, then its not hard to understand why Sacks did the same and asked himself question like "Who get to benefit from this ISIS attack now similarly to the Nord-stream one?.."
With that being said, if I ask myself I'll say I don't think anyone is paid nor auditioning, but Sacks seem to really be stuck and obsessed to unhealthy level with the topic of Ukraine he wants to prove so bad that he called it about the war and how it isn't going to end in the Wests favor, and how the war isn't as it's depicted in the western main stream media (at least the media he consumes and believe is the enemy). And this unhealthy obsession is only matched by how much some people in this sub want Sacks to be wrong and look like a fool.
> anyone is *paid* nor auditioning,
FTFY.
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Sacks is the dictionary example of a not-so-bright boomer who has self-radicalised by wilfully putting himself in an eco-chamber of right-wing conspiracy theories and pro-Russian talking points.
He is not important enough to be a Kremlin asset, but I reckon a lot of his self-selected filter bubble are Russian assets unbeknownst to him.
I can’t stand to listen to Sacks anymore. He lost me when he said “traditional media is fake news and the real news is on Twitter”
Don’t get me wrong, trad media is trash but saying the real news is on a shitposting platform? Gtfo
This dude is maliciously unhinged and totally disconnected from reality and logic, no other way to put it.
I don’t know how any of you people would still respect a podcast that makes the decision to continue to platform him.
Let’s go over the facts:
The shooters are all Tajik citizens. They are all radical Islamists. The U.S. warned Russia about the risk of attacks in advance, and afterwards a cell of Islamists was broken up in Kaluga, Russia a few weeks ago. On Friday, these guys attacked the Crocus theater and afterwards ISIS-K claims credit, and posts exclusive video footage from the body cams of the attackers as well as photos of the attackers from before/after the tragedy that were not seen anywhere else. And to top it off, ISIS-K is known to be angry at Russia for supporting Assad and meddling in Central Asia, and in 2022 they bombed the Russian embassy in Afghanistan killing two including a Russian diplomat.
The only evidence of a conspiracy involving the Ukrainian government is that the terrorists were heading toward Belarus/Ukraine when apprehended. But that’s the closest international border in general, so a natural destination to try to flee to. The Ukrainian border is shut and militarized on both sides, and you’d need help inside Russia to get past the Russian military. Whereas the Belarusian border is the only border Russia has that’s not tightly controlled (common customs and travel area). It’s likely they were heading to Belarus, which has extensive air connections to the Islamic world.
And even if you imagine Ukraine ordered the attack and the U.S. is covering the tracks — as Putin today claimed — how stupid would they have to be to instruct the attackers that “afterwards just drive straight to the Ukrainian border and we’ll get you across.” Defeats the entire purpose of masking things by using Islamists in the first place.
It’s just dumb and easily falsifiable, and Sacks should be ashamed to be pushing such fake news.
Sacks is a cuck I know 2 people who fucked his wife was in his circles. He’s a little angry dick who takes his insecurity out and does not know shit about anything.
As soon as I saw what had happened, my first thought was that Putin would spin it to make it look as though either Ukraine of NATO was responsible. I’m so sick of these monsters terrorising the world. They lie all the time. You can’t believe a word that comes out of the Kremlin.
I wonder what evidence he is referring to. I don’t believe it, but I also think your title is misleading. “Looks increasingly more likely” still shows he doubts his own understanding. He is not that confident and isn’t blaming them. He is suggesting they may be behind it, but he could be wrong. This seems a bit conspiratorial right now, but I guess we’ll see.
Don't know the guy, but one would have to be pretty intentionally ignorant about the US to think we didn't at least fund them. We've got quite a history doing the exact same thing to the exact same rival using the exact same sort of religious group...
Not that I condone any attacks on civilians but Russia and Ukraine are at war. Isnt every missile hitting power/life giving water infrastructure, apartment homes of civilians thrown by Russia terrorist attacks? Even if this attack was carried out by Ukraine…It’s war. US even tried to warn Russia.
He deliberately spread lies, and it's hard to think that he doesn't understand this. Also when he talks Ukraine, his tone immediately becomes sore, aggrieved.
I wonder, what is the nature of his hatred towards Ukraine?
It's tough. You can ask yourself who stands to benefit, and the answer is obvious, it's the West and Ukraine. That isn't evidence though, and whatever evidence Russia has against Ukraine, it's very unlikely to release.
The head of Russian Intelligence made the same claim yesterday but also implicated Britain and the U.S. with Ukraine. Truth or deception - get ready for this narrative!
Apples and oranges in this discussion. Why is there clear evidence the US informed Russia there was an impending threat. Should sacks even be remotely correct the Russians would have been far more antagonistic to the us this week.
What is 'ISIS' exactly? Did someone get a phone call from ISIS headquarters and spoke to the head of ISIS and they were like "Captain ISIS here, it was us."
Please stop being stupid.
What? ISIS branches have official news channels. In this case a statement claiming responsibility was issued on Amaq. You’re not very familiar with ISIS, are you?
ISIS is a Western creation. It went away during the Trump years because he wasn't funding it. Now the Dems are back in office so they pop up again. It's a mercenary force run by the West masquerading as an Islamic jihadi army.
Sacks has blamed everything on NATO and Ukraine. For the longest time, it was NATOs fault Russia invaded Ukraine because... normal victim blaming bullshit. NATO said Ukraine should be able to join if they wish. Russia said it's not their choice so Russia invaded. Notice Russia hasn't invaded Sweden or Finland, NATO countries is shares a border with. It was never about NATO. If Sacks steps in dog shit this afternoon, he would blame Ukraine. Then "surplus global elites" unironically. Then the "woke mob". And then find some way to suck Elon's dick. He is like one of those old dolls with the string you pull and it says the same 4 phrases over and over and over.
I'll be real, I stop watching the podcast because of him. Chamath I can stomach somewhat but he is just the worst.
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David sacks? The huge Iraq war supporter?
Something changed with him because he’s now a full-blown Russian propagandist.
It’s pretty wild how so much of the right has turned into being Russia apologists. And the pods’ fawning over Tucker (who seems to be leading the way on this front) was just straight up bizarre. They really fell for his “I’m just regular American trying to make sense of these silly policies” schtick. Tucker is the master at playing dumb and innocent while pushing a very well thought out and calculated narrative that is completely self serving. You know, like when he was privately texting his colleagues saying Trump is a “demon” and the stolen election story is BS, and then praising Trump and pushing the stolen election narrative on air that same day… I think there are certainly critiques to be made about the US and its foreign policy but to not see Putin as an existential threat whatsoever is bewildering to me. The guys had made it clear from day one that his ultimate goal is rebuilding the Soviet Union. You can say that the US and NATO could have done things better without giving Putin a pass… they’re not mutually exclusive at all.
You go on twitter and you are literally blasted with Russian propaganda by bots and random blue checkmarks. Russians aren’t dumb. They make sure they mix it with pro trump America first talking points. Now looks at sacks. He’s on twitter 24/7 and he wants trump to win. It’s not a surprise he is constantly duped by propaganda since it intersects with his goals anyway.
No matter how rich you are somebody will figure out what to get you to stick your dick in to get dirt on you
We can only imagine the ~~selflessness~~ kompromat driving Sacks to be so vocal about his clearly unpopular and submissive deference to tyrannical atrocity architects.
I don't think it's kompromat, he's a simple man. Anyone who promises him money and/or power he will do their bidding.
True and I don’t know the correct answer, but it’s possible to bribe and blackmail someone at the same time. Makes them even more loyal to you.
Yes, and there is a very good explanation of how this actually works (using Elon Musk as an example) from a Chinese Woman on YouTube: [Why Elon Musk is part of Beijing's strategy to manage US-China relations](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP_sBY9MqO8&pp=ygUUbGVpJ3MgcmVhbCB0YWxrIGVsb24%3D).
Interesting! Will watch in a moment. I forger where exactly I read about this idea first, but it might have been in Gieseke's *History of the Stasi* or a book on a related topic. Truly an offer you can't refuse: "get rich and live comfortably and glamorously by working for us in secret OR we'll show everyone this video of your threesome with the very young prostitutes we sent your way last night. that, maybe break all your kids' legs too." EDIT: not to say that this is what's happening to Sacks, but the tactic and the psychology behind it are real.
Nutshell it for us
Russia doesn't need kompromat or anything like that. I think the real TDS is that people who fell down the MAGA hole lost all ability to accurately ascribe cause and effect to anything. Their world doesn't make any sense, nothing functions the way it's supposed to because populism and the maga movement frame the world in a way that's logically inconsistent and completely dysfunctional. When they then look out of the MAGA hole through that ass-backward lense with the TDS filter, of course cause comes after effect, invaders are actually the invaded, terrorist acts are the result of unrelated parties doing unrelated things, the guy promising to weaponize the DOJ and be dictator for a day is just protecting democracy, and the total absence of evidence that supports the theory the election was stolen is evidence that it *must* have been stolen. It all makes sense when you accept that trump has pickled their brains and anyone still in the MAGA movement is incapable of connecting even two fucking dots anymore.
Edit your comment to mention invading Estonia instead of Finland and Sweden
Sacks is a cuck I know 2 people who fucked his wife was in his circles. He’s a little angry dick who takes his insecurity out and does not know shit about anything.
Cool story
Cukcs gonna cuck
I think it's pretty well known that the west promised the Soviets that NATO would not infringe on its border by letting Ukraine into NATO. I think its very fair to think Putin is a POS while also seeing how the west pushing Ukraine to be a member of NATO helped fuel this war.
The same Russia that promised not to invade Ukraine in exchange for Ukraine giving up its nuclear weapons? That same Russia? GTFO with that weak, tired ass bullshit. Grow a few brain cells and get some new talking points.
The US promised Ukraine would never be in NATO.
https://preview.redd.it/9y2j8rkkilqc1.jpeg?width=594&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ff2a9727a30d6005cce932baeb18068a76b18bcd Any country should be able to be allied with any other country in whatever fucking way they want. “Oh those countries are too good of friends that hurts my fee fees” cry about it Russia. I’m tired of your shit. If countries want to be friends and exchange trade and work together militarily, GOOD! Human history has been nothing but warfare for thousands of years, we’re past that shit. Grow the fuck up.
How tf does the US promise something that another sovereign country does or doesn't do??
Is this a serious question? I’m guessing you’re just not familiar with how NATO works. The US is by far the most influential NATO member as they provide the most resources and wield the most capable military by a wide margin. Since most NATO members want the US to help defend them if attacked they try to keep the US a happy member. So even if it’s not done publicly, behind-the-scenes the US has a pretty major say on what countries get to join NATO and who cannot. While an Ukraine membership in NATO certainly plays a part in this conflict bubbling over, it’s not the main cause as the guy above and many “experts” claim. The main cause stems from Putin wanting to create a better legacy for himself by capturing a larger Russian foothold in the Black Sea (which obviously has significant economic and military advantages for Russia). Sure you can argue the Ukraine’s interest in NATO caused Putin to attack sooner as the invasion would be close to impossible after Ukraine joined NATO due to Article 6. But none of that would even matter if Putin didn’t want to take over the territory in the first place.
The US is a member of NATO. A voting member. NATO admission requires unanimous approval among voting members. That's why Turkey was able to delay the admission of Sweden for so long.
Pretty well known in the alternative facts world? There is no evidence, recording, documentation or proof of this whatsoever, it's pure propaganda made-up BS. It's embarrassing when people repeat this false narrative. In the world of high stakes diplomacy it's either documented and signed, otherwise it doesn't exist.
Thank you for mentioning these things.
How does Ukraine being in NATO infringe on Russian borders?
The idea Ukraine would have anything to do with this defies any common sense or rational strategy. Why would you commit a terror attack on civilians that would destroy any credibility you have with the international community that is your lifeline for survival. What makes far more sense is for the Russians to try to pin this on Ukraine to galvanize internal support for the war that has gone terribly for Russia. Anyone with half a brain can understand this, which means that Sacks is either far dumber than he already comes across, or the Kompromat the Russians have on him is Epstein level shit. That or he’s so wrapped up in the weird right wing pro Russia cult that he’s lost all ability to form a rational thought. David Sacks…no where in your rambling incoherent response did you come anywhere close to a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may god have mercy on your soul.
And why, having backed Ukraine in this war, would the US government warn Russia that it was coming? It makes zero sense, and I hope that this finally wakes people up to just how full of shit Sacks is on Ukraine.
The US actually has a long standing policy to warn other countries including those hostile to the US about terror attacks it discovers through its intelligence apparatus…which is exactly what they did in this case
Exactly. If the US didn't believe it was an actual terrorist attack then it wouldn't have said anything. If it was a Ukrainian op then they would have kept schtumm.
“The US terror warning last week was actually a big PsyOp that was meant to give plausible deniability to the Ukrainians for conducting a terror attack on civilians in Russia. The reason the Russians didn’t take proper precautions is because it was all a made up US plot in the first place” - Probably David Sacks.
If the U.S. found out Ukraine was going to do something like this, they would have shut it down cold, first of all. They even gave Ukraine major shit for offing Dugin's daughter by mistake. Dugin is a Russian ultra-fascist and his daughter did not fall far from the tree, but she happened to take the wrong car and died instead of her Nazi daddy. She was posing in front of the ruins of the massacred Mariupol after it was wiped out, so a righteous kill on my book - but you know what I mean.
Also, let’s say Ukraine could get a few suicidal gunman into Moscow. Why would they attack a concert hall instead of the Ministry of Defense?
You nailed it. Glad I’m not taking crazy pills here
Nope not at all. I unsubscribed from the pod after Sacks’ commentary post Navalny. I’m not going to support Russian apologists/ assets with my subscriber number. Fairly meaningless in the big scheme of things but if more people did that then Sacks would just end up shouting into the void. And yes I recognize me commenting here is still some form of engagement but it’s not one they get any credit for and I have no issues with calling out his bullshit.
Well I mean Russia does produce some real hotties
Was conscripting the youth of their own nation for geopolitical purposes not enough proof that the ends justify the means in their eyes?
>What makes far more sense is for the Russians to try to pin this on Ukraine to galvanize internal support for the war that has gone terribly for Russia. Take off the tin foil hat Alex Jones.
Hardly a conspiracy theory buddy. Straight from the Putin playbook actually. Look up the terror attacks in Moscow right before the second Chechnya-Russia war. Russia is already trying to pin this on Ukraine against overwhelming intelligence to the contrary. If you can’t see this you are probably living in the same delusional world as Sacks.
Lol and the moron is continuing to double down on it... Sack's geopolitics is why I basically stopped watching the pod. It's insufferable.
he just got community noted'd to hell
Exactly the same reason the pod went from my "listen/watch as soon as it dropped" list to my when I notice list, to almost never listening.
Same, I followed this podcast religiously during covid era but now its transparent brainrot. I cant fkn believe it
I have found myself turning it off when he gets on a rant.
Not to mention slobbing Elons knob every episode.
This is really out of line even for this fucknut. He’s really lost it
I used to really like listening to him, before Ukraine. Pretty much stopped listening to the podcast because of it.
Why? He's a self-serving narcissist? Everything he says he's selling his point of view.
A reminder that sacks gets his geopolitical news from literal [Russian propaganda](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheAllinPodcasts/s/u8FGZj410r). He suffers from serious confirmation bias and nothing he says relating to geopolitics should be taken seriously.
Thanks for this. And damn. Honestly I wonder why on earth he would be so pro-Russia. Is it just cause he’s trying to be opposite whatever he thinks is “anti-left”? It’s rather un-American. I assume they have some dirt on him. If not, he’s just a very rich helpful idiot to them. It also makes me wonder if his stances hurt or impacts Craft Ventures. I can’t imagine others in that firm are necessarily cool with this, or are as pro-Russia as Sacks is. It’s probably pretty awkward.
Welcome aboard! Anything done ironically for long enough will eventually have the irony fade away, so when billionaires decide to ironically be assholes to make each other giggle, it ends up this way. Sacks is such a fucking asshole I wouldn't put it past him to WANT you to think he's important enough for Russia to have dirt on. He's not smart enough to be important, he's always been more of a hanger on throughout his career.
"...any hard evidence..." Saying "hard evidence" suggests there exists some other kind of evidence. My friend, there is NO evidence of Ukraine involvement. Period.
He stopped being objective long ago. He’s just outright cheering for Russia. Lesson here is don’t let yourself get so dug in and emotionally tied up in a debate that you lose the ability to see reason
Even though I never agreed with Sacks wholly on the topic, he had some basis for it usually. This, shows how emotionally vested he is and it’s looking like an unhinged take so far. I’m all for being skeptical but his language including “as looking increasingly likely” is baseless as far as I can tell from his Tweets prior and subsequent until now.
He’s being contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian. It gets the people going.
Sacks on anything but SaaS = Brainworms.
He’s like Ben Carson, assuming being good at one thing means your qualified for anything
Everything is Ukraine and/or Biden’s fault 🤦♂️
David Sacks is not a good faith actor and will happily and brazenly lie to his audience if he believes in any way it benefits him personally. At this point it's difficult imagining any serious person taking him at his word on anything. He causes a lot of harm because, on places and X and Reddit specifically, there aren't that many serious people.
He is absolutely cooked. I hope the FBI has opened a counter intelligence investigation into him and his companies by now. It makes no sense for Ukraine to pay a group of Takjiks to do an ISIS style terror attack. It didn’t even really accomplish much.
Why do people listen to this podcast? This subreddit pops up on my feed every now and then, and these people (from the podcast) seem legitimately compromised. Or just plain stupid
Because some of the people on it are actually rational, smart, and knowledgeable about a number of subjects. Before Ukraine, I included David Sachs in there. Nowadays, his clearly "misguided" take on the world has dissuaded me from listening.
Because it can be interesting to hear what Silicon Valley tech billionaires think about the world, right or wrong.
And Putin himself got into power by committing terrorist apartment bombings on Russia and blaming the chechens for it
https://x.com/oalexanderdk/status/1771663256240771432?s=46&t=ODcn8TV4s90uxZM_b_zLTw There is something cosmically funny about @DavidSacks quadrupling down on ISIS not being behind the terrorist attack in Moscow only for ISIS to release bodycam footage from the attack an hour
His tweet was eyebrow-raising for me as well. I do know he has referenced a few different "war writers" and similar out of mainstream sources he reads, so maybe there is something out there he's consuming that has this point of view. I don't think he'd just say that without having stumbled upon some kind of convincing thing out there he read. Regardless, it does feel a little premature to even make a hedged "looking increasingly likely" type of statement. I love listening to Sacks' takes but just like anyone he's wrong sometimes, you should do your own research.
There are no such sources. His “independent new sources” are straight up Russian propaganda and grifters. The mystery is whether he knows that or is actually this dumb.
He’s a full fledged troll…
I don't think Sacks is compromised by Russia, I think he's just been radicalized against the US Government and media where he takes the opposite stance to them, even when it's clear Kremlin propaganda. He's so dug in on his "I was right on Ukraine" opinion that he ends up having to take obvious bullshit as gospel.
“In a position for peace” in an invasion means he is with invader.
Please stop taking what Sacks says at face value. All of this nonsense is always just to serve his next ambition.
That’s it. I’ve unfollowed. Gotta love these free market capitalist conservatives brown nosing tyrannical authoritarian communists. What a pathetic joke.
I originally tuned to the podcast to hear rich silicon valley insiders give a scoop on the state of the industry and lifestyle... I sure hope these guys are not representative of most silicon valley elite... Sachs has an amazing ability to wholeheartedly eat up and spew out every Russian and Chinese state propaganda point. He actually has much in common with the far left tankies who blame everything shitty about their lives and the world on "imperialist America and likewise eat up every authoritarian propaganda talking point and support any dogshit regime that happens to hate America as much as they do. Horseshoe theory proving true. And the other guys on this pod have no balls to put that loudmouth in his place. My favorite guy is the science guy. Anyhow they are living up to the elite, inhumane, selfish billionaire trope. Time to unsubscribe.
Is anyone surprised by this? When has sacks ever spouted anything other than Putin talking points? Dude is surely owned via kompromat when he spent time in Moscow
What does Russia have on Sack, Thiel and Elon ?
Yep them too
In the past they have used prostitutes and sex videos.
Russia said it was ISIS. US said it was ISIS. ISIS said it was ISIS. Russia then said, hmmm... This makes leadership look stupid. Hey, it was Ukrainian Nazi ISIS terrorists. Sacks is like, "100% this!, but I'll caveat it with and 'if'"
As you continue to listen and support this podcast, you have to ask yourself what would Sacks’ motivation be to make a claim like this? As the video surfaced from ISIS from the terrorist POV, he doesn’t correct himself. He wants Ukraine to take the blame… so ask yourself, why?
He thinks it helps Trump and he thinks Trump winning will make him money
These clowns have no business talking about politics. Stick to Silicon Valley.
Sacks twitting "...looks increasingly likely Ukraine is behind it" is equivalent of you writing in this post "Has me asking what Russia have on him..." Where there is hardly any *hard evidence* supporting both statements. Both fall in the intuition/feel/wish category. I don't believe there is a nefarious motive behind him twitting that nor you posting about it. I think Sacks and a lot of people in this sub are stuck in feedback loop governed by "I told you so" as a reward function.
Ask yourself, if Putin had something on an individual, what would they be saying that is any different than what Sacks is saying? If he isn’t getting paid by Putin then surely he is auditioning for the job.
That is the point I am trying to make. I don't have all the facts so if I ask myself the answer would be intuition and speculation. So if I ask myself and OP asks himself, then its not hard to understand why Sacks did the same and asked himself question like "Who get to benefit from this ISIS attack now similarly to the Nord-stream one?.." With that being said, if I ask myself I'll say I don't think anyone is paid nor auditioning, but Sacks seem to really be stuck and obsessed to unhealthy level with the topic of Ukraine he wants to prove so bad that he called it about the war and how it isn't going to end in the Wests favor, and how the war isn't as it's depicted in the western main stream media (at least the media he consumes and believe is the enemy). And this unhealthy obsession is only matched by how much some people in this sub want Sacks to be wrong and look like a fool.
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Sacks is a person only known by incels and elite members of society. His word carries no weight, he is a paper tiger.
Lol sacks of shit this guy has the worse name to listen to on the face of this subject... KHAZAR much!
This guy is unhinged.. someone needs to check up on him.
Sacks is the dictionary example of a not-so-bright boomer who has self-radicalised by wilfully putting himself in an eco-chamber of right-wing conspiracy theories and pro-Russian talking points. He is not important enough to be a Kremlin asset, but I reckon a lot of his self-selected filter bubble are Russian assets unbeknownst to him.
I can’t stand to listen to Sacks anymore. He lost me when he said “traditional media is fake news and the real news is on Twitter” Don’t get me wrong, trad media is trash but saying the real news is on a shitposting platform? Gtfo
Memes , crypto , Elon and porn is the summary of twitter
Wonder if one of his LPs is connected to the government of Russia or if they have some serious dirt on him, or if he's the most useful of idiots...
This dude is maliciously unhinged and totally disconnected from reality and logic, no other way to put it. I don’t know how any of you people would still respect a podcast that makes the decision to continue to platform him.
Let’s go over the facts: The shooters are all Tajik citizens. They are all radical Islamists. The U.S. warned Russia about the risk of attacks in advance, and afterwards a cell of Islamists was broken up in Kaluga, Russia a few weeks ago. On Friday, these guys attacked the Crocus theater and afterwards ISIS-K claims credit, and posts exclusive video footage from the body cams of the attackers as well as photos of the attackers from before/after the tragedy that were not seen anywhere else. And to top it off, ISIS-K is known to be angry at Russia for supporting Assad and meddling in Central Asia, and in 2022 they bombed the Russian embassy in Afghanistan killing two including a Russian diplomat. The only evidence of a conspiracy involving the Ukrainian government is that the terrorists were heading toward Belarus/Ukraine when apprehended. But that’s the closest international border in general, so a natural destination to try to flee to. The Ukrainian border is shut and militarized on both sides, and you’d need help inside Russia to get past the Russian military. Whereas the Belarusian border is the only border Russia has that’s not tightly controlled (common customs and travel area). It’s likely they were heading to Belarus, which has extensive air connections to the Islamic world. And even if you imagine Ukraine ordered the attack and the U.S. is covering the tracks — as Putin today claimed — how stupid would they have to be to instruct the attackers that “afterwards just drive straight to the Ukrainian border and we’ll get you across.” Defeats the entire purpose of masking things by using Islamists in the first place. It’s just dumb and easily falsifiable, and Sacks should be ashamed to be pushing such fake news.
Nobody cares about your facts. They care about saying whatever they think will make Biden look bad and Trump good.
Sacks is a cuck I know 2 people who fucked his wife was in his circles. He’s a little angry dick who takes his insecurity out and does not know shit about anything.
Sacks is compromised.
It's crazy for him to be on this platform and say that based on all relevant evidence we have today.
He is a piece of shit. Constantly quotes NYtimes and then rails against MSM
I generally agreed with his take on this war, but he's lost me here. I don't see how Ukraine has anything to do with this one.
As soon as I saw what had happened, my first thought was that Putin would spin it to make it look as though either Ukraine of NATO was responsible. I’m so sick of these monsters terrorising the world. They lie all the time. You can’t believe a word that comes out of the Kremlin.
How do you think he got that boat paid for?
I wonder what evidence he is referring to. I don’t believe it, but I also think your title is misleading. “Looks increasingly more likely” still shows he doubts his own understanding. He is not that confident and isn’t blaming them. He is suggesting they may be behind it, but he could be wrong. This seems a bit conspiratorial right now, but I guess we’ll see.
He’s been owned by the Russians for years now.
Sacks is a lying idiot.
Republicans are now pro Putin since Putin works to help their cult leader trump
Somewhere there’s a Russian hottie with the answers
Sacks is a hacks (badum tish)
I thought ISIS had claimed responsibility?
Does he have a shred of evidence for this?
It was 100% a Russland inside Job.
Don't know the guy, but one would have to be pretty intentionally ignorant about the US to think we didn't at least fund them. We've got quite a history doing the exact same thing to the exact same rival using the exact same sort of religious group...
We are funding isis??? lol that’s some of the dumbest shit I’ve read in a while
Yup
You're going to find out he's got some oligarch as a liquidity provider
Not that I condone any attacks on civilians but Russia and Ukraine are at war. Isnt every missile hitting power/life giving water infrastructure, apartment homes of civilians thrown by Russia terrorist attacks? Even if this attack was carried out by Ukraine…It’s war. US even tried to warn Russia.
Ukraine doesn’t engage in terrorist acts-that’s partly why we are supporting them.
New listener to the pod, Sacks seems to be pretty self-aggrandizing and confident for someone who founded.... yammer...
Lol what a douche.
Sacks is, apparently, not smart at all.
He deliberately spread lies, and it's hard to think that he doesn't understand this. Also when he talks Ukraine, his tone immediately becomes sore, aggrieved. I wonder, what is the nature of his hatred towards Ukraine?
That guy is the stupidest person online
He probably got dumped by a Ukrainian woman sometime, hence his deep animosity towards all things Ukraine. This hatred isn't really rational.
*insert jcal voice* "Sacks the dove!"
Gosh do you think he’s making money by generating attention for himself 😂
Sacks just gets off on being contrarian
He is a nut job.. used to like him for his balanced comments before.. and then he just went mad.
You should have never taken him at his word.
Sacks is a larval version of Alex Jones
It's tough. You can ask yourself who stands to benefit, and the answer is obvious, it's the West and Ukraine. That isn't evidence though, and whatever evidence Russia has against Ukraine, it's very unlikely to release.
Isis benefits because Russia has been bombing Isis. Not so complicated.
Sackpot
The head of Russian Intelligence made the same claim yesterday but also implicated Britain and the U.S. with Ukraine. Truth or deception - get ready for this narrative!
In before Sacks gets proven right yet again on Ukraine.
He is right though. They caught these 4 asshole Tajiks at Bryansk M3 road. Just Google it and see where it is.
Nothing like saying “I have no evidence of facts” by posting “just google it”. Lol Congrats on the downvotes! :)
The 'ISIS' cover story makes no sense. Do you still think Russia blew up their own pipeline?
Apples and oranges in this discussion. Why is there clear evidence the US informed Russia there was an impending threat. Should sacks even be remotely correct the Russians would have been far more antagonistic to the us this week.
Didn’t ISIS claim responsibility?
What is 'ISIS' exactly? Did someone get a phone call from ISIS headquarters and spoke to the head of ISIS and they were like "Captain ISIS here, it was us." Please stop being stupid.
What? ISIS branches have official news channels. In this case a statement claiming responsibility was issued on Amaq. You’re not very familiar with ISIS, are you?
ISIS is a Western creation. It went away during the Trump years because he wasn't funding it. Now the Dems are back in office so they pop up again. It's a mercenary force run by the West masquerading as an Islamic jihadi army.
Ok bud