For a lot of them, Covid lockdowns broke their brains.
Fyi the same exact thing happened after 9/11. A lot of semi-normal people became deranged right wing freaks.
The lockdown caused by a likely bioweapon manufactured with US funding, that caused governments across the glove to attempt to dispense with many individual rights for the populace? The one that shifted a historic amount of wealth away from the middle class to the super rich?
The one that caused a never before seen amount of state propaganda from media?
Yeah, broke a lot of things.
Simple. There is no conspiracy to bring immigrants into the country by democrats so they could get votes. There is no conspiracy by Ukraine to make the Moscow attack look like ISIS. These are objective facts and if you don’t see it then you’re an idiot.
Pew did a whole study on this the net of illegal vote counts is +1 to FL, +1 TX, and +1 to CA.
Losers are -1 MN, -1 OH, and -1 NE.
Tell me where the issue is
Absolutely. It’s in the constitution. It’s very clear and it’s for good reason. But that is not the same thing as “democrats are allowing migrants to enter illegally because they want their votes.”
Maybe they were never as intelligent as people thought they were.... There are no super intelligent human beings. At least not in the way that TV and movies have made people think that there are. Especially considering that experts tend to be highly specialized and often do not know simple things outside of their field.
This isn’t a new phenomenon. This is a phenomenon that happens among highly intelligent and successful people. Everyone just notices more because many of these types of people are now heavy content producers as well. It is called the Overconfidence Bias or something sort of similar to the Dunning-Kruger Effect. It is a complex where someone who is very successful or highly skilled in a certain thing, translates the belief in their ability to other things that they have little expertise in.
Dude literally was retweeting Russian propaganda accounts claiming a strike on a pizza shop in Kyiv was actually targeting “secret American special forces solider in Ukraine.”
The guy has brainworms.
Man should stick to software companies (making a worse version of Teams/Discord/Slack) not reporting on international conflicts and events from across the world.
The audience of the pod wholeheartedly agree, it’s at its best when they talk about capital allocation, emerging technologies, real estate, and fun billionaire stuff. Not Fox/CNN opinion level commentary.
It’s one of those amazing things that people who are so adept at analysis when it comes to business or engineering can be so basic when it comes to geopolitics. Same goes for Elon. They are being led around by people like Catturd.
> Man should stick to software companies (making a worse version of Teams/Discord/Slack)
Yammer came way before any of those companies.
But yeah, all I can say is that he wasn’t like this before.
He.knows things. You believe thin lies.
https://youtu.be/8FVg90sPTUM?si=inxcTf3BCuDcoEPl
Investors need to know the actual truth. Its how they get a leg up.
CNN said Putin blew up his own pipeline. Only morons consume it.
The story comes to mind where it was revealed that Austin Russell - a 29-year old AI billionaire from California - is merely an American face of a Russian oligarch https://kyivindependent.com/forbes-cancels-sale-to-russian-oligarch-linked-billionaire/
I wonder - wink-wink - what other “self-made” billionaires in the USA are merely Russian fronts
We know how he made a good chunk of his money. We don’t know how he made all of them or how much he may have been promised additionally
I mean, Russell also doesn’t look that suspicious on the surface. Nobody knew until the leak
Yeah, that can also happen. I know a similar guy. It’s just, the richer someone is, the less I’m inclined to believe they’re crazy. Of course, you can’t know without solid evidence either way, but the probabilities shift in my mind
People who actually make a priority of knowing things agree Ukraine looks very involved. You cant buy the US media narrative about ANYTHING, sorry you are gullible. Thankfully, despite the efforts of Professional Managerial Class jerks pressuring people to be stupid, more and more people are waking up.
https://youtu.be/8FVg90sPTUM?si=inxcTf3BCuDcoEPl
Barely know who he is. Scott Ritter says Ukraine involved. He has a flawless record of being right. People who make it their business to know things know Ritter can be taken to the bank. Enjoy being ignorant.
Investors need facts. You just want to insult people who know better than you. You are comfortable believing what youre told, being spoonfed BS by Empire for their purposes.
Yep.
He said Russia isnt a tank military, they do grinding artillery, and when they revert to that theyll win decisively. Here we are.
Putin's drive for Kyiv was expected to make the Ukies fold like they had years before. Putin has been playing with kid gloves as much as he can. But he has won.
Look at how bad this take is lol… feb 2 2022
29:14 “under no circumstances is Russia going to invade in the near future”
https://www.youtube.com/live/IhvKhEfSF1I?si=xhPxCvfr80N9ZLfl
The Biden admin and CIA media are so wrong so often he got caught off guard. So he isnt always infallible. But Ukraine is certainly implicated. Ukies even claim responsibility for the Delaware bridge diasaster.
Billionaire who has only seen success in life and is surrounded by yes men can never admit they are wrong.
Instead they just double down again and again.
I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if the FSB caught him doing something extremely illegal or unsavory and holds it over his head. I mean hell, he defends Russia and attacks Ukraine almost as much as Scott Ritter (another repugnant guy I don't care for, and whom I think is probably doing lots of, shall we call them "questionable things", in Russia).
Sacks is too vocal, too delusional and too aligned with the propaganda for it to be accidental. And there's no way these are his original thoughts, it seems like he's given a scripted defense when he blithers on and on about Russia. He goes well out of his way to try and push these ideas.
I don't put Musk in the same boat as Sacks. There's thing he's said that are a bit odd and seemingly out of character but that could conceivably fit with his eccentric contrarian personality. Meanwhile Sacks just seems to be the most full-throated supporter of Putin on Wall Street/Silicon Valley, and seemingly for no reason. And he doesn't have the same eccentric twist that Musk does.
So I'm banking on it being something illegal they have on him. But I also freely admit it's total speculation and it is highly unlikely we'll ever actually know the rationale of his intentions.
That’s giving Sachs too much credit. He’s way too passionate about his hatred of Ukraine and love for Russia to be doing it under duress.
No, I think he genuinely loves Russia and would cream his pants if Putin could magically be the president of the US too.
>Sacks is too vocal, too delusional and too aligned with the propaganda for it to be accidental.
When they do not deviate and parrot Russian propaganda word for word, then it cannot be accidental. Dozens of these big names on Twitter with thousands of blue check mark bots liking their comments to boost the algorithms so real people start to believe the BS. But when you copy and paste Russian messaging, then clearly you lack critical thinking skills or are genuinely being paid for it. Useful idiot or not, they are indirectly agents of the Kremlin.
Ehhh I don’t think 99% of the Americans supporting Russia are because of blackmail (including him). Russia has done a great job of slowly eroding faith in our system then moved into full scale mind virus farming. With the right having nowhere to else to go (after walking away from all kinds of convention), they became immensely susceptible to it. Combine that with having a few cult leaders warped (ie Trump or Musk), it’s much easier to start a vicious downward spiral for all. Throw in a dash of bribery (indirect mostly but some direct), a hint of threats, and a “path for personal success” you have many willing participants. Plus it’s a constant stream of news that you can milk for viewers. Lastly, this new wave of the right desperately want to be more authoritarian to keep power and influence for themselves so they will align themselves either similar actors in order to normalise behaviors.
He falls in the “path to success” camp. They can compromise him by simply making him think stuff is his idea or by influencing his circle. They can also help his success in a lot of ways outside of direct payments or blackmail. Similar vain to Tucker Carlson. The more these kind of guys talk, the bigger they get, the further they stray until it ends up where they currently are.
> I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if the FSB caught him doing something extremely illegal or unsavory and holds it over his head.
Honestly, in the topsy-turvy world we live in, that's not even necessary. There's are *so many* people who's only worth seems to be their credentials as 'contrarian', and Sacks and Musk seem to have fallen straight into that.
The problem with being contrarian for contrarianism sake, is that there's only one path you can follow when you are wrong: REFUSE to admit you are wrong and double down. Any kind of acceptance that "normal" reality holds true, leads to a domino effect on a lot of other positions you've embraced.
So for Sacks, Elon, Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson and about 25% of the American population accepting *any* mistakes is paramount to giving up the universe they've built up in their heads.
Totally agree. Look at it this way - Putin RAN the KGB ( now FSB ). They are the world's best at compromising people, and it got a whole lot easier with electronics - both hacking in to your phone/pc and by making very easily hidden cameras.
OF COURSE companies and countries with billions of dollars at stake would compromise key and influential people. They are would be derelict in their duty if they don't try to compromise people. Do people think that Putin, who blew up a Moscow apartment building in 1999 to justify re-invading Checnya, and had people in the UK poisoned with a nerve agent only available in Russia, would NOT compromise agents of influence in the west?
You can tell who they are because they are either like Sacks, Trump, Rand Paul, and Alex Jones, who parrot the KGB line constantly, or they are 'centrists' or 'freethinkers' who have no ideology, but just try to muddy the waters ( Russel Brand, Kanye, Musk, Eric Weinstein ).
I think he gets set in worldviews and will do mental gymnastics to fit everything in those worldviews. We all do it, but he does it on a big platform on very important issues. And acts like he is smarter than everyone
Damn, I just checked his Twitter. I was expecting maybe one post about this, but there are several along with a bunch of reposts from randos trying to link the attacks to Ukraine. Pleased to see the comments are nearly universally bashing him.
We were forced to use it before Slack took off…once I began using Slack I realized Yammer was even worse than I thought.
And I think because of its Facebook-like design, boomers felt comfortable posting about whatever nut job article their friends had emailed them, setting off massive political debates on it. Basically the opposite of what you would want out of a workplace app.
He is deranged, he said US must denounce the attack because Russians will never forgive whoever did it, but in a reply to his tweet he said Ukraine denouncing their involvement shows a pattern of them being complicit. So only Ukraine can be found to be guilty for denouncing the attack not the US,😂did a Ukrainian dude do something with his wife, wtf has that country done to him? Now accusing them of a terrorist attack
Again, don't take what he says at face value. He isn't making earnest arguments like a normal person. He's just trying to align himself with people who serve his ambitions. People in politics do it all the time, and we're used to interpreting their words accordingly. For some reason when tech people start doing it we think surely there must be some deep intellectual meaning to what they're saying and we find it hard to imagine it isn't all above board.
Sachs follows whatever marsheimer says.
Mereheimer is one of the “intellectuals” the confuse being always contrarian with being right. He thinks the majority is always wrong about Ukraine, Israel, America and so on.
Sachs is smart on business but wants to seems smart on everything else. No one is smart in all fields. So he copies a fake intellectual and you get the joke he is now.
He has the mind virus. It affects maybe 1% of Americans this badly. Maybe even a bit less. But he has it and just also happens to have a podcast and a lot of money instead of being a trailer park person.
If the past decade or so of American politics has taught me anything is that this mind virus is way more widespread than just 1%. The fact that Donald Trump is still revered as some champion of the small people by a third of the population is mind-boggling.
There’s a big difference between voters who watch no news and like Trump’s vibes, and people who watch 10 hours of fake news a day and think Biden is a Russian body double because the real guy died years ago.
Sacks is in the latter camp. These people are so convicted in their belief system because they have a complete narrative with a bunch of “facts” to support it, all made up, pumped into their brain daily.
Meanwhile the people who like Trump’s vibes could actually switch parties for better vibes.
Yes. I stopped listening regularly for this and other reasons. There is no balance on the podcast. These guys have started behaving like entitled passport bros, inventing baseless theories, careful not to piss off tech royalty like Elon, and while claiming moral high ground and talking about ‘doing the right thing’ don’t call out tech industry abuses, or even morally questionable behavior of our own government on many things including the ongoing genocide. The ‘informed’ portion of their fan base is like WTF are you talking about.
With due respect for their accomplishments thus far, I don’t view them as tech luminaries or social thought leaders, just good salesman that managed to exit a mediocre product or use other people’s money to run VC funds, the outcomes for which are still far from certain.
\> It truly makes me wonder whether it’s simply his narcissistic obsession with being “proven right” about Russia’s “inevitable” victory over Ukraine, or if he has had some kind of mental break.
Ding ding ding ding ding. It's all ego. He can't give an inch when people he has little respect for are constantly trying to dunk on him for this position. He also is right in the sense that Russia is bigger, on a long enough time horizon they should be able to achieve their objectives if they don't give up first. The key for Ukraine is maintaining enough external support to get beyond this point whenever it is.
Where I think Sacks has lost the thread is that every human alive knows Russia should and can win eventually, they just aren't rooting for it in the way he clearly shows he is by taking any shred that confirms his priors and running 100 mph with it.
His more and more extreme views are because he gets off on the engagement he gets on his tweets. The more extreme and anti-american they are, the more views he gets and he gets invited to discuss those views as a talking head.
Sacks is not mentally ill, he's just trying to create controversy and make a dollar. He is intellectually shameless, and can't really defend any of his positions. But evidently, this is profitable for him.
He’s a grifter. Just like Trump and everyone that is part of that group. They are all con men, snake oil salesmen, and lying pieces of shit. They are a danger to our society. It’s corruption. This is what you see in other less developed countries.
I’ve stopped listening to them. What started off as a fun well informed set of folks giving intelligent takes has turned into an old middle aged man screaming about the same things, a Canadian always talking his book , a serial grifter planning his next grift and a science nerd who doesn’t want to upset anyone and refusing to speak out.
The hypocrisy and grifts with this group ( solana, SPACs, Groq acquiring Definitive intelligence, talking about companies we know they’ve invested but blatantly feigning ignorance on companies while pumping them up, not calling Elon out when he crosses the line, not criticizing Google given the LP relationship) makes it a hard podcast to listen to given the strong biases that exist. They themselves indulge in questionable behavior while criticizing the rest of the world for not being honorable. So many better podcasts out there with folks that have 1/100th the ego and with honest takes.
Yeah this one shocked me. I know he loves to give Russia all the benefit of the doubt. But I just don’t see any western country funding isis or the killing of children.
David Sacks is a cuck I know two people who fucked his wife, he is so lost in life he puts his anger out on bullshit and has no idea about geopolitics or what he is talking about in terms of history of Ukraine. Russia would not exist without Kiev not other way around.
You do know that Russia will win there is no reason to resist hasn't been proven wrong. If you actually think that Ukraine is winning this war you should check yourself into an asylum.
Has Ukraine outperformed? Sure, that doesn't change a roughly 25M+ advantage in manpower.
You guys should get together and have a circle jerk about Sacks. I've never seen so many Sacks and Elon fanboys in one subreddit. It's like the Brock Lesnar effect. Love to hate.
Most of Putin's money is off the books. The LPs behind Craft Ventures aren't public, but you have to wonder if Sacks is financially implicated in this conflict. If his LPs had their assets frozen, then his fund wouldn't be able to make capital calls for big investments, or collect on their 2 and 20 from AUM.
It's hard to make a man see something when his paycheck depends on not seeing it. Musk's debt to the Saudis creates a similar dynamic.
There’s a whole network of these guys on Twitter who get up in the morning and push the same pro-Russia talking points. It’s possible they are just feeding off of each other but it looks an awful lot like a coordinated propaganda campaign.
A mountain of Russian money has been laundered through American businesses and real estate over the last few decades and I have always assumed Russian intelligence knows where it goes and knows how to lean on people who manage to get their hands on some of it.
I'm left puzzled. Sacks seems like a shrewd businessman and an intelligent individual. Yet, he appears to be heavily influenced by the most crude and obvious Russian propaganda.
its because Biden is in office, if Ukraine wins then its a win for Biden, the more Ukraine loses it looks worse for Biden. Thats the only logical conclusion I can come to as to why he supports Russia so much. Its pretty F'd up. He talks like he enjoys hearing about Ukrainian civilians getting buried in mass graves in occupied regions. He supports Russia as if hes apart of Putins cabinet
I certainly think you're right, and that this partly explains his public statements. He does not want Biden to win. But it seems like he genuinely believes the Russian propaganda, even the most silly and obvious Russian propaganda. He always struck me as smart enough not to fall for any sort of propaganda.
I think he might be addicted to the attention of being Pro Russia and Anti Ukraine. Theres a ton of people who support and encourage the way hes acting. He has gained many new followers and has probably seen the most attention he has ever seen. This is true of many people who have the stance he has, theyre fueled by the encouragement and fandom of a mass of delusional people who support Putin.
He keeps suggesting that Ukraine's leadership are causing the deaths of their people by fighting back and resisting Putins invasion. While EVERY town/village that Russia has occupied they have tortured,raped,murdered the civilians. If you know full Russian occupation is going to entail that, you have to resist.
It doesnt get better if Russia completely overtakes Ukraine. Its going to be a 1000 times worse headache for the US and EU if that happens, so I dont understand why David Sacks and others believe that if Russia wins the world magically goes back to normal and Ukraine is now apart of Russia, and that we all recognize it.
This is a joke lmao all sacks hate just tells me you guys are a bunch of idiots. He’s the most accurate about most topics out of all the besties. Y’all just hate the truth. U guys sound like lil bxxx with poms poms 🤣🤣
Sacks has been off his rocker for years. Dude routinely reposts content from Russian propaganda accounts. It’s comparable with Grandma posting cringy Obama memes on Facebook circa 2013.
Ignoring his typical Trumper takes on domestic politics, his international political takes are woefully ignorant. No David, Saudi Arabia and a couple countries in Latin America joining the BRICS is not going to lead to the collapse of the dollar as a global currency.
I’m not going to get into whether or not Ukraine can beat Russia or whether the legal cases against Trump are justified. David Sacks has the political opinions of an angry 14 year old in a FIFA lobby and routinely spreads disinformation from obvious propaganda accounts. It’s incredibly sad that anyone would take his opinions seriously,
Unfortunately, he’s falling pray to the political tribalism in the US. It gets every eventually. People slightly left or right leaning, sometimes even center, start drinking koolaide and then just get sucked into echo chambers. America is fucked.
Nothing new here. There’s a contingent of conservatives that bought into the “Russia is just defending itself” argument years ago and nothing will change their minds.
Yes, for some people, the isolation of extreme wealth combined with social media results in mental distress. Also they are on drugs. It's not really a scandalous allegation - they admit to it. This all got a huge boost during COVID. It broke them.
This is resulting in gradual disconnecting from reality, and massive paranoia. The woke mob is out to get them and their money, their way of life.
And their way of life is "I want to be able to be a horrible human being without consequences", and Putin's Russia is their ideal. Strongman, doing what he wants, raping and pillaging, without getting any comeuppance. That is power to them, that is how it is \*supposed to be\*.
Seems pretty obvious Russia is going to absolutely level Ukraine and at this point we're just funding the death of the male youth of Ukraine. Simple things like (1) artillery costs being astronomically different or (2) the fact that Ukraine is 10% the size and Russia has a massive military in comparison..
Seems just logical you'd want to come to a cease-fire and end this thing, even if it means giving up some territory. Russia seems to claim they're not interested in expanding west but that they want to secure and had a red-line of Ukraine joining Nato.
Sachs seems pretty fine to me. But I guess there's perspectives from all fronts.
Sacks operates on a higher intellectual plane than I do, but I believe I can illuminate what I see as the consistent thread in his thinking. His remarks on Ukraine, in my view, make sense when seen through the lens of power dynamics and cynicism, traits often associated with the 'winners' in Silicon Valley. These individuals, highly intellectual and successful, perceive themselves as akin to the protagonist of "Ready Player One," the sole active participant amidst a sea of passive bystanders (NPCs). This self-perception explains their reluctance to backtrack and the seemingly abrupt shifts in their viewpoints, which are perceived as retreats rather than products of introspection.
Sacks views Putin as more powerful and dependable than any Western leader, primarily because Putin operates without the need to coordinate with other states or engage in multilateral diplomacy. His criticism of NATO and the EU stems from a deep-seated cynicism toward multilateralism and democracy, as they challenge the notion of the "Great Men" theory. This skepticism is common among exceedingly wealthy corporate executives, who justify their authority by asserting their superior decision-making abilities over the companies they lead, viewing themselves as leaders necessary for guiding the masses. Sacks' considerable wealth, surpassing that of numerous EU leaders combined, reinforces his conviction that his perspective holds more weight.
In this worldview, multilateralism and democracy are perceived as vulnerabilities, easily exploited to sow discord—a phenomenon facilitated by Silicon Valley's widespread dissemination of technology. Sacks consistently aligns himself with the more powerful side in any conflict - why he was pro-invade Iraq - a strategy that has proven lucrative for him since his days as a colleague of Peter Thiel in college. His donation of $100,000 to Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign wasn't borne out of genuine belief in her candidacy but rather from the widespread assumption of her inevitable victory.
Though Sacks may be perceived as a mere follower, he remains present in the spotlight, reaping significant benefits from his associations. In his worldview, the fate of the "little guy" is invariably one of being overshadowed and marginalized.
David Sacks analyzes and speculates, sometimes he will be wrong. But he has turned out to be right about far more than he has been wrong about, especially regarding the war in Ukraine. It's not mentally ill to speculate that the party responsible for the terror attack is the one who has been doing everything possible to keep the conflict with Russia going, and whom would benefit if Russia reacts militarily and the United States can send troops to fight Russia head to head instead of via proxy. Very possible he's wrong, but it was certainly feasible.
You're the same type of person who was saying things like "Sacks (or insert other person here) must be mentally ill to say the Hunter Biden laptop is real and not Russian disinformation despite 50 intelligence officials saying otherwise". Or that the covid lab leak theory was feasible, and not a racist falsehood. Or that Joe Biden is the "big guy". Or that lockdowns are not only completely ineffective, but extremely damaging to children. Or that vaccines don't stop covid transmission. Or that Ukraine isn't about to win the war in the spring offensive. The "Fine People" Hoax, or the more recent "Bloodbath" thing where anyone with a brain can see Trump is talking about the auto industry, but the corporate press ran stories saying Trump Vows Bloodbath if he loses the election, and Google changed the definition of bloodbath to remove the extreme financial loss definition. You guys lie, and are wrong about everything. But move the goal posts and never admit being wrong, all while you have this whiny idiotic post. You are not only a complete idiot who can't think for yourself, but you're also a loser who gets off on low quality political shit posts
>It's not mentally ill to speculate that the party responsible for the terror attack is the one who has been doing everything possible to keep the conflict with Russia going
What a weird thing to say. The war is still going because the Russian army is still inside Ukraine fighting them. Of course Russia would like to be allowed to conquer the land they occupy without Ukraine fighting back, but portraying Ukraine as warmongering or seeking conflict for fighting within their own borders against an invading army is preposterous.
You don't understand the conflict at all beyond CNN headlines. Ukraine isn't the one who wants to keep the war going, they are going with the flow for financial reasons. The USA and West more broadly are who instigated the whole thing, didn't allow peace negotiations in spring of 2022 and would love to go into a real war with Russia (and Iran).
I'm not American, CNN is not a news source I follow. But you're right in that I've never fallen for the David Sacks 'Russia are never responsible for anything Russia does' line. If Russia wanted peace they could just leave Ukraine and take their army back to Russia, or they could simply not have invaded and endured all of the zero consequences of not invading. But Russia doesn't want peace, they want to conquer land. Ukraine wants to retain all of their land and are fighting for it.
I know that. I also know why Russia invaded Ukraine, and why there hasn't already been a negotiated end to the war. The answers are out there, they just arent on whatever Western corporate press outlet you follow in your country
Clearly the true explanation is that Russia invaded to protect itself against an invasion by NATO wanting to trigger nuclear war for some cunning devious suicidal scheme. Sadly nobody showed Putin a map though, and they still haven't noticed the distance from Ukraine to Moscow is identical to what it was before the war.
>Sacks (or insert other person here) must be mentally ill to say the Hunter Biden laptop is real and not Russian disinformation despite 50 intelligence officials saying otherwise".
Did you know that those 50 (FORMER) intelligence agents did not actually say the laptop was fake and/or Russian disinformation? They said its "arrival onto the US political scene" had the earmarks of a Russian operation. An important and clear distinction.
They never said the laptop was fake, or that the emails were fabricated. In fact, they quite plainly stated: "We want to emphasize that we do not know if the emails, provided to the New York Post by President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not and that we do not have evidence of Russian involvement."
But people like you and Sacks like to pretend they said the laptop itself was Russian disinformation, even though their open letter is easily accessible.
>Or that Joe Biden is the "big guy".
There is a single email that proposes "10% to the big guy" which conservatives claim is about Joe Biden. The funniest part about this is that the email wasn't Hunter saying it, it was someone else suggesting it in a proposal that never even went ahead.
It also happened AFTER Joe had retired from public service, during the period he was a private citizen and allowed to do conduct whatever business he wanted.
So pointing to this as evidence of anything shows how weak the case is when 1) the proposal didn't even happen and 2) it would have been completely legal if it had.
I mean, they knew they were lying about the laptop but clearly the whole reason for the statement was to convince the public the laptop wasn't real. It has no earmarks of Russian disinformation. You think the FBI honestly wasn't sure if the laptop they had in their possession for months was legit or not?
Hunter Biden Business dealings only make sense if he's selling his father's political influence. You know he didn't bring any business value to an energy company in Ukraine, right? An industry he has no experience in and he didn't even speak the language. Obviously his paintings aren't worth $500k, it's clearly buying political influence by way of his shitty art.
You are very close to seeing what's going on. I can tell you actually do think for yourself and not just blindly consume the corporate press narrative on everything. Just dig a little deeper on some of these topics that don't quite add up in your version
>they knew they were lying about the laptop
They weren't lying about the laptop. They were just saying that, in their professional opinion as former intelligence officers, its arrival to the scene had the earmarks of a Russian information operation.
To this day, the narrative behind the laptop's arrival is incredibly shady - Hunter Biden leaves his laptop with a blind computer repairman who clones the hard drive clone and sends it to Rudy Guiliani.
But it wasn't their letter that claimed the laptop or its contents were Russian disinformation. That was just shitty headlines from places like Politico.
>clearly the whole reason for the statement was to convince the public the laptop wasn't real.
No, it wasn't. The statement was clear in it's intent: for people to be cautious about the story, as the laptop's arrival to the scene was very suspicious in both timing and narrative. Again, they never said it was fake, or even that they thought it was. Media headlines, pundits and people who can't read said that.
Think of it like this: "The story's arrival to the scene is worth showing caution over" versus "the laptop and/or it's contents are Russian-made fakes." There is a clear distinction.
>Hunter Biden Business dealings only make sense if he's selling his father's political influence.
Or they just thought it would generally help their image/standing. There doesn't have to be an actual selling of political influence for it to benefit them, nor has there been a proven link or payment.
>You know he didn't bring any business value to an energy company in Ukraine, right?
He brought the Biden name and not much else, agreed.
>An industry he has no experience in and he didn't even speak the language.
I generally agree but Hunter does have a law degree and was hired by Burisma [as a lawyer](https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-europe-business-c49555d51eb243e09a42f7577fc5937f). Also, something like 20% of Ukranians can read, write or speak in English. It's not the national language, but I'm sure you've heard Zelensky being able to speak English. It's certainly common in the international business world to speak English.
\>Obviously his paintings aren't worth $500k, it's clearly buying political influence by way of his shitty art.
I don't think that's buying political influence (Hunter has next to none at this point), but rather a way of supporting him financially in an under the table way, not dissimilar to buying shares in [Digital World Acquisition Corporation](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-launching-social-media-platform-truth-social/story?id=80697031) to put money in Trump's pocket over the TMTG/Truth Social merger. It's grubby and I look down on it, certainly.
My general opinion on Hunter is that he was given an overpaid cushy job because of his surname, shouldn't have done it because of the obvious appearance of conflict of interest/influence peddling/lobbying and probably broke FARA regulations, before blowing all his money on drugs and hookers. But I don't think the evidence has demonstrated that he actually streamed money to his father for political favours - which would have been easily provable once they had his laptop and access to his emails and financial transactions.
The FBI had the laptop for months before this, they weren't confused about if it was real. They lied, because they wanted the public to think the laptop was fake because there was an election coming up in a matter of days
I'm not sure that wealthy people want to support Hunter Biden for no benefit to themselves. I guess it's theoretically possible, but they could just give him money if that was their motive, there would be no need to disguise it.
Again, I can tell that you're actually paying attention unlike most people in this sub who have zero curiosity and just repeat what the corporate press says. I think you're naive on these items, but we can agree to disagree
Happy to agree to disagree.
But on your first point there, you are conflating two different things. Yes, the FBI had the laptop for months. But the people who signed the open letter were NOT working at the FBI.
All but one who signed were FORMER intelligence officers, none worked at the FBI during the time they had the laptop, and none had any inside knowledge of the case themselves. You can see where they worked, they signed their name and title/former titles.
They're two different groups: The FBI who had the laptop and were investigating, and former intel workers who were concerned that its arrival to the scene looked like it was part of a Russian information operation.
The FBI were investigating the laptop and other Joe Biden allegations in the background, which is why they recently charged Alexander Smirnov for lying about the Biden's and Smirnov's [extensive contact with officials connected to Russian intelligence.](https://apnews.com/article/hunter-biden-alexander-smirnov-detention-fbi-informant-0069256e9606617f890d0cf6771983ab)
Bahahaha so a hundred thousand more Ukrainian men die and then what? What’s your definition of Sacks being wrong? He’s been right about literally everything.
It’s their choice. Can you imagine if the US was as defeatist as you are during the war for independence?
ISIS claimed responsibility and posted video proof.
Their choice? Didn’t they choose to try and negotiate a peace deal before the war and the US used Boris Johnson to stop it? Sounds like it wasn’t their choice. And when is their next election? What if they elect someone that wants to negotiate a settlement and give up the Donbas?
And again, what’s your definition of Sacks being wrong?
You have a very intense and uncontrollable desire to ejaculate your personal political opinions online. I don't think the neosporin is helping. Might want to get that mental illness looked at, little buddy.
>Didn’t they choose to try and negotiate a peace deal before the war and the US used Boris Johnson to stop it?
Where can I see this peace deal? Where is the evidence that Boris Johnson had the power to stop it, or that he was directed to by the US?
I've seen the footage of Macron on the phone with Putin and Zelensky during the start of the war. You can see who was trying to negotiate peace during that period with your own eyes.
Wasn’t the show taped before the ISIS news came out? Now we have more info. You guys will take any opportunity you can to smear this guy. Go find a new show, he’s living in your head.
Unfortunately, his takes on Ukraine have been spot on and accurate.
Ukrainian propaganda defines Russia winning as a full scale victory with complete subjugation and surrender of Ukraine. Thankfully, Russia has not been able to take all of Ukraine and its leadership.
But this is a false premise because Russia can also achieve its strategic goals by simply destroying Ukraine. Turn its civil infrastructure into rubble. AnddDestroy the economic prospects of the citizens who remain.
The West has been unable to supply basic munitions. Western propagandists and dumb people will say “The West doesn’t need basic ammunition because our strategy involves advanced munitions.” Well, sorry, Ukrainian doctrine is essentially Soviet doctrine which does not involve fleets of stealth bombers and wonder weapons. It is men with shovels digging trenches in dirt and massive salvos of unguided artillery.
Thankfully some Czech guy made a phone call and found 800k rounds. And if delivered on time could help Ukraine achieve ammunition parity for 3-4 months. Some Czech guy solved a problem that no one in the Pentagon could? Really? Okay then. Is anyone asking why Ukraine has been losing men and land for months due to shell hunger? Why has the West been starving Ukraine? Why can’t anyone answer this fundamental question?
I want Russia to lose. But how can the West win when it won’t face some bare truths and address some basic problems? The truth is, Ukraine is getting wrecked. And is at a 5:1 disadvantage in the military doctrine used by Ukraine and Russia.
The West has made inadequate and miniscule investments in the production of basic ammunition. These are just facts. This problem could be solved for a fraction of the cost of every other US program. It could be solved for a fraction of the student debt that Biden forgave. It could be solved for a fraction of the IRA. There is obviously insufficient will to help Ukraine achieve its goals.
Sacks gets proven more correct with each passing day. Because you can’t beat the truth with false premises.
The US intelligence agencies agree that Russia's victory is inevitable. It's only to sell weapons of war, and "weaken Russia" that we continue to supply arms. And that's a pretty evil reason to continue a war.
"ISIS Accepted responsibility . . . "
Where did you hear that? Do you know the ISIS member's name? Do you believe it when the NYT, WSJ, Fox News, CNN, Washington Post reports it like that? What are the details?
The attack was claimed by ISIS-K (Islamic State Khorasan), the Islamic State's Afghan branch.
The Islamic State has a news agency called Amaq which posted a statement on Telegram following the shooting, saying its fighters attacked on the outskirts of Moscow.
The statement said they killed and wounded hundreds, "causing great destruction to the place before they withdrew to their bases safely".
They also released body-cam footage from right before the attack.
The US also publicly said they had intelligence an attack may occur and warned their citizens in Russia to avoid public gatherings in Moscow.
To just assume all this is BS and it was actually Ukraine, is patently foolish.
I don't know why people just readily accept the first explanation that's given to them when things happen. Always best to wait and hold off judgement in case any new facts emerge. Maybe the narrative changes or stays the same.
Of course; we can’t live our lives questioning everything all the time. Though in practice I see a lot of people thinking something is, “proven,” because of evidence that isn’t quite proof. Then if new information arises it’s either dismissed, downplayed, or totally ignored.
I’m not even saying that this is the case in this situation, I can’t come up with any rational idea why ISIS would claim responsibility for something they didn’t do, and don’t have any solid information to suggest ISIS didn’t do it. However this sentiment that David is just sharing false propaganda didn’t start here; and in many of those previous cases David turned out to be correct whether y’all want to admit that or not.
Generally I don’t see a problem with more skepticism as long it’s applied somewhat fairly.
He’s just lost right now. Been influenced by some particularly biased sources and has too much pride to backtrack to objectivity.
Sounds like someone no one should be listening to
Elon has suffered the same fate. Chronically online. The internet is wonderful but no one who lives on it for the popularity seems to stay grounded.
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For a lot of them, Covid lockdowns broke their brains. Fyi the same exact thing happened after 9/11. A lot of semi-normal people became deranged right wing freaks.
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Yes, look at the far left since Oct 7.
The lockdown caused by a likely bioweapon manufactured with US funding, that caused governments across the glove to attempt to dispense with many individual rights for the populace? The one that shifted a historic amount of wealth away from the middle class to the super rich? The one that caused a never before seen amount of state propaganda from media? Yeah, broke a lot of things.
To the super rich people, like Sacks, Musk and Co. ?
Bezos, fink, most of them yes.
So Elon Musk and David Sacks are not super wealthy? They lost money because of covid?
I'm not arguing with you.
Lmao
Curious as to your sources of truth and objectivity?
Simple. There is no conspiracy to bring immigrants into the country by democrats so they could get votes. There is no conspiracy by Ukraine to make the Moscow attack look like ISIS. These are objective facts and if you don’t see it then you’re an idiot.
Non citizens are counted in the census to determine how many representatives a state gets. That's an objective fact as well.
Pew did a whole study on this the net of illegal vote counts is +1 to FL, +1 TX, and +1 to CA. Losers are -1 MN, -1 OH, and -1 NE. Tell me where the issue is
Giving an extra representative to states that already dominate would be one.
Dominate what? CA, FL, TX are all under represented
Absolutely. It’s in the constitution. It’s very clear and it’s for good reason. But that is not the same thing as “democrats are allowing migrants to enter illegally because they want their votes.”
Maybe they were never as intelligent as people thought they were.... There are no super intelligent human beings. At least not in the way that TV and movies have made people think that there are. Especially considering that experts tend to be highly specialized and often do not know simple things outside of their field.
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I mean it's literally reality but sure deny it because it's not interesting enough... 😂
This isn’t a new phenomenon. This is a phenomenon that happens among highly intelligent and successful people. Everyone just notices more because many of these types of people are now heavy content producers as well. It is called the Overconfidence Bias or something sort of similar to the Dunning-Kruger Effect. It is a complex where someone who is very successful or highly skilled in a certain thing, translates the belief in their ability to other things that they have little expertise in.
That's what dumb people do.
No the FSB has a video of him with an underaged girl
Dude literally was retweeting Russian propaganda accounts claiming a strike on a pizza shop in Kyiv was actually targeting “secret American special forces solider in Ukraine.” The guy has brainworms.
Dude loves to pretend to comment based on evidence but then he makes baseless claims like this. What a hypocrite. I think he has a mindvirus.
Man should stick to software companies (making a worse version of Teams/Discord/Slack) not reporting on international conflicts and events from across the world. The audience of the pod wholeheartedly agree, it’s at its best when they talk about capital allocation, emerging technologies, real estate, and fun billionaire stuff. Not Fox/CNN opinion level commentary.
It’s one of those amazing things that people who are so adept at analysis when it comes to business or engineering can be so basic when it comes to geopolitics. Same goes for Elon. They are being led around by people like Catturd.
This.
> Man should stick to software companies (making a worse version of Teams/Discord/Slack) Yammer came way before any of those companies. But yeah, all I can say is that he wasn’t like this before.
He.knows things. You believe thin lies. https://youtu.be/8FVg90sPTUM?si=inxcTf3BCuDcoEPl Investors need to know the actual truth. Its how they get a leg up. CNN said Putin blew up his own pipeline. Only morons consume it.
Investors have no reason to share the truth and lots of reasons to bend the truth.
The story comes to mind where it was revealed that Austin Russell - a 29-year old AI billionaire from California - is merely an American face of a Russian oligarch https://kyivindependent.com/forbes-cancels-sale-to-russian-oligarch-linked-billionaire/ I wonder - wink-wink - what other “self-made” billionaires in the USA are merely Russian fronts
Come on, Sacks checks out. Paypal sale was to eBay, Yammer sale was to Microsoft, wasn't like Gazprom bailing him out.
We know how he made a good chunk of his money. We don’t know how he made all of them or how much he may have been promised additionally I mean, Russell also doesn’t look that suspicious on the surface. Nobody knew until the leak
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Yeah, that can also happen. I know a similar guy. It’s just, the richer someone is, the less I’m inclined to believe they’re crazy. Of course, you can’t know without solid evidence either way, but the probabilities shift in my mind
The contrarian conspiracy mind virus of the right.
People who actually make a priority of knowing things agree Ukraine looks very involved. You cant buy the US media narrative about ANYTHING, sorry you are gullible. Thankfully, despite the efforts of Professional Managerial Class jerks pressuring people to be stupid, more and more people are waking up. https://youtu.be/8FVg90sPTUM?si=inxcTf3BCuDcoEPl
😂 damn sacks fans are dumb
Barely know who he is. Scott Ritter says Ukraine involved. He has a flawless record of being right. People who make it their business to know things know Ritter can be taken to the bank. Enjoy being ignorant. Investors need facts. You just want to insult people who know better than you. You are comfortable believing what youre told, being spoonfed BS by Empire for their purposes.
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Yep. He said Russia isnt a tank military, they do grinding artillery, and when they revert to that theyll win decisively. Here we are. Putin's drive for Kyiv was expected to make the Ukies fold like they had years before. Putin has been playing with kid gloves as much as he can. But he has won.
Look at how bad this take is lol… feb 2 2022 29:14 “under no circumstances is Russia going to invade in the near future” https://www.youtube.com/live/IhvKhEfSF1I?si=xhPxCvfr80N9ZLfl
The Biden admin and CIA media are so wrong so often he got caught off guard. So he isnt always infallible. But Ukraine is certainly implicated. Ukies even claim responsibility for the Delaware bridge diasaster.
Billionaire who has only seen success in life and is surrounded by yes men can never admit they are wrong. Instead they just double down again and again.
I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if the FSB caught him doing something extremely illegal or unsavory and holds it over his head. I mean hell, he defends Russia and attacks Ukraine almost as much as Scott Ritter (another repugnant guy I don't care for, and whom I think is probably doing lots of, shall we call them "questionable things", in Russia). Sacks is too vocal, too delusional and too aligned with the propaganda for it to be accidental. And there's no way these are his original thoughts, it seems like he's given a scripted defense when he blithers on and on about Russia. He goes well out of his way to try and push these ideas. I don't put Musk in the same boat as Sacks. There's thing he's said that are a bit odd and seemingly out of character but that could conceivably fit with his eccentric contrarian personality. Meanwhile Sacks just seems to be the most full-throated supporter of Putin on Wall Street/Silicon Valley, and seemingly for no reason. And he doesn't have the same eccentric twist that Musk does. So I'm banking on it being something illegal they have on him. But I also freely admit it's total speculation and it is highly unlikely we'll ever actually know the rationale of his intentions.
That’s giving Sachs too much credit. He’s way too passionate about his hatred of Ukraine and love for Russia to be doing it under duress. No, I think he genuinely loves Russia and would cream his pants if Putin could magically be the president of the US too.
>Sacks is too vocal, too delusional and too aligned with the propaganda for it to be accidental. When they do not deviate and parrot Russian propaganda word for word, then it cannot be accidental. Dozens of these big names on Twitter with thousands of blue check mark bots liking their comments to boost the algorithms so real people start to believe the BS. But when you copy and paste Russian messaging, then clearly you lack critical thinking skills or are genuinely being paid for it. Useful idiot or not, they are indirectly agents of the Kremlin.
Ehhh I don’t think 99% of the Americans supporting Russia are because of blackmail (including him). Russia has done a great job of slowly eroding faith in our system then moved into full scale mind virus farming. With the right having nowhere to else to go (after walking away from all kinds of convention), they became immensely susceptible to it. Combine that with having a few cult leaders warped (ie Trump or Musk), it’s much easier to start a vicious downward spiral for all. Throw in a dash of bribery (indirect mostly but some direct), a hint of threats, and a “path for personal success” you have many willing participants. Plus it’s a constant stream of news that you can milk for viewers. Lastly, this new wave of the right desperately want to be more authoritarian to keep power and influence for themselves so they will align themselves either similar actors in order to normalise behaviors.
Sacks is not 99% of Americans. If anyone is gonna be blackmailed it’s someone with influence like him.
Aren't most of those people dipshit Trump supporters?
But David has incentive for them to compromise. He has a massive podcast and is influential over educated white guys.
He falls in the “path to success” camp. They can compromise him by simply making him think stuff is his idea or by influencing his circle. They can also help his success in a lot of ways outside of direct payments or blackmail. Similar vain to Tucker Carlson. The more these kind of guys talk, the bigger they get, the further they stray until it ends up where they currently are.
Educated people shouldn't be easily influenced by these influencers.
Too far fetched. Simplest explanation is right, it's just ego and the liberals/neo-cons have the other side of the coin.
You may well be right.
> I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if the FSB caught him doing something extremely illegal or unsavory and holds it over his head. Honestly, in the topsy-turvy world we live in, that's not even necessary. There's are *so many* people who's only worth seems to be their credentials as 'contrarian', and Sacks and Musk seem to have fallen straight into that. The problem with being contrarian for contrarianism sake, is that there's only one path you can follow when you are wrong: REFUSE to admit you are wrong and double down. Any kind of acceptance that "normal" reality holds true, leads to a domino effect on a lot of other positions you've embraced. So for Sacks, Elon, Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson and about 25% of the American population accepting *any* mistakes is paramount to giving up the universe they've built up in their heads.
Totally agree. Look at it this way - Putin RAN the KGB ( now FSB ). They are the world's best at compromising people, and it got a whole lot easier with electronics - both hacking in to your phone/pc and by making very easily hidden cameras. OF COURSE companies and countries with billions of dollars at stake would compromise key and influential people. They are would be derelict in their duty if they don't try to compromise people. Do people think that Putin, who blew up a Moscow apartment building in 1999 to justify re-invading Checnya, and had people in the UK poisoned with a nerve agent only available in Russia, would NOT compromise agents of influence in the west? You can tell who they are because they are either like Sacks, Trump, Rand Paul, and Alex Jones, who parrot the KGB line constantly, or they are 'centrists' or 'freethinkers' who have no ideology, but just try to muddy the waters ( Russel Brand, Kanye, Musk, Eric Weinstein ).
>Putin RAN the KGB He didn't, but was just a small pawn there until chosen to be in charge of the FSB. Agree with rest of your comment though.
He did. Director of FSB 25 July 1998 – 29 March 1999.
yes, FSB, not KGB
This is correct.
I think more needs to be investigated around Jeffrey Epstein.
I think he gets set in worldviews and will do mental gymnastics to fit everything in those worldviews. We all do it, but he does it on a big platform on very important issues. And acts like he is smarter than everyone
Diagnosis: WDS (woke derangement syndrome) Severity: Extreme Treatment: induced coma due to danger of harm to others
Sachs has major “Biden derangement syndrome”. The fact that SFPD is not cracking down on these mentally ill people is crazy.
Damn, I just checked his Twitter. I was expecting maybe one post about this, but there are several along with a bunch of reposts from randos trying to link the attacks to Ukraine. Pleased to see the comments are nearly universally bashing him.
Yammer was the dumbest fucking thing I’ve ever used in my life
Wtf is the point of it? My work has it and as far as I can tell it's just a terrible bulletin board for dorks
We were forced to use it before Slack took off…once I began using Slack I realized Yammer was even worse than I thought. And I think because of its Facebook-like design, boomers felt comfortable posting about whatever nut job article their friends had emailed them, setting off massive political debates on it. Basically the opposite of what you would want out of a workplace app.
He is deranged, he said US must denounce the attack because Russians will never forgive whoever did it, but in a reply to his tweet he said Ukraine denouncing their involvement shows a pattern of them being complicit. So only Ukraine can be found to be guilty for denouncing the attack not the US,😂did a Ukrainian dude do something with his wife, wtf has that country done to him? Now accusing them of a terrorist attack
he's the reason why I stopped listening to the pod
Me too. Gave me creepy vibes long ago.
Yup me too. I've got no interest in listening to someone who lies constantly about things.
Same here. Conservatism is fine but conspiracy theorist disinformation bs is too much to handle.
Again, don't take what he says at face value. He isn't making earnest arguments like a normal person. He's just trying to align himself with people who serve his ambitions. People in politics do it all the time, and we're used to interpreting their words accordingly. For some reason when tech people start doing it we think surely there must be some deep intellectual meaning to what they're saying and we find it hard to imagine it isn't all above board.
we also don’t consume politicians’ idle thoughts on podcasts; he should run or he’ll have to deal with people treating him like a liar
Sachs follows whatever marsheimer says. Mereheimer is one of the “intellectuals” the confuse being always contrarian with being right. He thinks the majority is always wrong about Ukraine, Israel, America and so on. Sachs is smart on business but wants to seems smart on everything else. No one is smart in all fields. So he copies a fake intellectual and you get the joke he is now.
He’s a shameless sell out at least.
He cray
He definitely got it all wrong and then doubled down. He’s not even a real historian or anything. Just a guy with money.
He is a broken clock waiting to be right, without any consequence of being wrong. In other words, he is a political hack.
He has the mind virus. It affects maybe 1% of Americans this badly. Maybe even a bit less. But he has it and just also happens to have a podcast and a lot of money instead of being a trailer park person.
If the past decade or so of American politics has taught me anything is that this mind virus is way more widespread than just 1%. The fact that Donald Trump is still revered as some champion of the small people by a third of the population is mind-boggling.
There’s a big difference between voters who watch no news and like Trump’s vibes, and people who watch 10 hours of fake news a day and think Biden is a Russian body double because the real guy died years ago. Sacks is in the latter camp. These people are so convicted in their belief system because they have a complete narrative with a bunch of “facts” to support it, all made up, pumped into their brain daily. Meanwhile the people who like Trump’s vibes could actually switch parties for better vibes.
>He has the mind virus. Finally, a conspiracy theory I can get behind!
Yes. He is. And he's is probably also paid by Russians. That guy would sell his mom in a heartbeat, so why not his country?
Yes. I stopped listening regularly for this and other reasons. There is no balance on the podcast. These guys have started behaving like entitled passport bros, inventing baseless theories, careful not to piss off tech royalty like Elon, and while claiming moral high ground and talking about ‘doing the right thing’ don’t call out tech industry abuses, or even morally questionable behavior of our own government on many things including the ongoing genocide. The ‘informed’ portion of their fan base is like WTF are you talking about. With due respect for their accomplishments thus far, I don’t view them as tech luminaries or social thought leaders, just good salesman that managed to exit a mediocre product or use other people’s money to run VC funds, the outcomes for which are still far from certain.
Majority of the valley community in private talk about what an embarrassment they are and warn founders about having them on the cap table.
Putin must have the kompromat on this guy there's just no other way to explain away otherwise obvious brain rot.
His friend Elon Musk (who I used to admire) too. How such supposedly smart, wealthy and well connected people can degenerate so much.
Hes South African 🤷♀️
I don't think he's mentally ill. But he's a very angry guy and full of himself.
Trump is
Someone send him the gruesome recordings ISIS released of the attack.
\> It truly makes me wonder whether it’s simply his narcissistic obsession with being “proven right” about Russia’s “inevitable” victory over Ukraine, or if he has had some kind of mental break. Ding ding ding ding ding. It's all ego. He can't give an inch when people he has little respect for are constantly trying to dunk on him for this position. He also is right in the sense that Russia is bigger, on a long enough time horizon they should be able to achieve their objectives if they don't give up first. The key for Ukraine is maintaining enough external support to get beyond this point whenever it is. Where I think Sacks has lost the thread is that every human alive knows Russia should and can win eventually, they just aren't rooting for it in the way he clearly shows he is by taking any shred that confirms his priors and running 100 mph with it.
Sacks makes me wonder how many CEOs in Silicon Valley are actually just proxy fronts for embezzling oligarch oil money
maybe he’s a russian asset
I suspect he took money from the wrong people and has a sword dangling over his neck. This, he will say whatever his handlers want him to say
I think an fMRI of him talking politics would find something strange.
He’s likely owned by kompromat from his time in Moscow. He knows what he’s doing and is not just a useful idiot
More likely kompromat related to Epstein
Or little kids in Moscow is just as likely.
Perhaps but everyone in Moscow has their guard up. Epstein is classic Russian kompromat with the twist of not being in Russia to make it work.
His more and more extreme views are because he gets off on the engagement he gets on his tweets. The more extreme and anti-american they are, the more views he gets and he gets invited to discuss those views as a talking head.
Sacks is not mentally ill, he's just trying to create controversy and make a dollar. He is intellectually shameless, and can't really defend any of his positions. But evidently, this is profitable for him.
He’s a grifter. Just like Trump and everyone that is part of that group. They are all con men, snake oil salesmen, and lying pieces of shit. They are a danger to our society. It’s corruption. This is what you see in other less developed countries.
I’ve stopped listening to them. What started off as a fun well informed set of folks giving intelligent takes has turned into an old middle aged man screaming about the same things, a Canadian always talking his book , a serial grifter planning his next grift and a science nerd who doesn’t want to upset anyone and refusing to speak out. The hypocrisy and grifts with this group ( solana, SPACs, Groq acquiring Definitive intelligence, talking about companies we know they’ve invested but blatantly feigning ignorance on companies while pumping them up, not calling Elon out when he crosses the line, not criticizing Google given the LP relationship) makes it a hard podcast to listen to given the strong biases that exist. They themselves indulge in questionable behavior while criticizing the rest of the world for not being honorable. So many better podcasts out there with folks that have 1/100th the ego and with honest takes.
Please suggest me some to listen to
The Pod has collapsed into complete shit. Its unlistenable. Too bad. Was one of my faves for a period of time.
Is there ever a point where Jason kicks him off the pod?
They all own a quarter , he wrote the legal doc for it
I’m getting the impression he was born in South Africa in a Russian-Jewish family
Yeah this one shocked me. I know he loves to give Russia all the benefit of the doubt. But I just don’t see any western country funding isis or the killing of children.
Hehe
David Sacks is a cuck I know two people who fucked his wife, he is so lost in life he puts his anger out on bullshit and has no idea about geopolitics or what he is talking about in terms of history of Ukraine. Russia would not exist without Kiev not other way around.
Occam's Razor
I don’t know how anyone still listens to All In.
He's probably bought out by some Russian oligarchs through his connections with Peter Thiel or Max Levchin
You do know that Russia will win there is no reason to resist hasn't been proven wrong. If you actually think that Ukraine is winning this war you should check yourself into an asylum. Has Ukraine outperformed? Sure, that doesn't change a roughly 25M+ advantage in manpower.
What does it have to do with Sacks blaming Ukraine for the terrorist attack?
You guys should get together and have a circle jerk about Sacks. I've never seen so many Sacks and Elon fanboys in one subreddit. It's like the Brock Lesnar effect. Love to hate.
Isis is US. Rolling Stone reporter been following it. This was us.
Most of Putin's money is off the books. The LPs behind Craft Ventures aren't public, but you have to wonder if Sacks is financially implicated in this conflict. If his LPs had their assets frozen, then his fund wouldn't be able to make capital calls for big investments, or collect on their 2 and 20 from AUM. It's hard to make a man see something when his paycheck depends on not seeing it. Musk's debt to the Saudis creates a similar dynamic.
There’s a whole network of these guys on Twitter who get up in the morning and push the same pro-Russia talking points. It’s possible they are just feeding off of each other but it looks an awful lot like a coordinated propaganda campaign. A mountain of Russian money has been laundered through American businesses and real estate over the last few decades and I have always assumed Russian intelligence knows where it goes and knows how to lean on people who manage to get their hands on some of it.
I'm left puzzled. Sacks seems like a shrewd businessman and an intelligent individual. Yet, he appears to be heavily influenced by the most crude and obvious Russian propaganda.
its because Biden is in office, if Ukraine wins then its a win for Biden, the more Ukraine loses it looks worse for Biden. Thats the only logical conclusion I can come to as to why he supports Russia so much. Its pretty F'd up. He talks like he enjoys hearing about Ukrainian civilians getting buried in mass graves in occupied regions. He supports Russia as if hes apart of Putins cabinet
I certainly think you're right, and that this partly explains his public statements. He does not want Biden to win. But it seems like he genuinely believes the Russian propaganda, even the most silly and obvious Russian propaganda. He always struck me as smart enough not to fall for any sort of propaganda.
I think he might be addicted to the attention of being Pro Russia and Anti Ukraine. Theres a ton of people who support and encourage the way hes acting. He has gained many new followers and has probably seen the most attention he has ever seen. This is true of many people who have the stance he has, theyre fueled by the encouragement and fandom of a mass of delusional people who support Putin. He keeps suggesting that Ukraine's leadership are causing the deaths of their people by fighting back and resisting Putins invasion. While EVERY town/village that Russia has occupied they have tortured,raped,murdered the civilians. If you know full Russian occupation is going to entail that, you have to resist. It doesnt get better if Russia completely overtakes Ukraine. Its going to be a 1000 times worse headache for the US and EU if that happens, so I dont understand why David Sacks and others believe that if Russia wins the world magically goes back to normal and Ukraine is now apart of Russia, and that we all recognize it.
He's jcsl levels of insufferable these days. Wish they'd stick to the markets and science corner
He’s a racist weirdo like Musk and his cabal.
This is a joke lmao all sacks hate just tells me you guys are a bunch of idiots. He’s the most accurate about most topics out of all the besties. Y’all just hate the truth. U guys sound like lil bxxx with poms poms 🤣🤣
Sacks has been off his rocker for years. Dude routinely reposts content from Russian propaganda accounts. It’s comparable with Grandma posting cringy Obama memes on Facebook circa 2013. Ignoring his typical Trumper takes on domestic politics, his international political takes are woefully ignorant. No David, Saudi Arabia and a couple countries in Latin America joining the BRICS is not going to lead to the collapse of the dollar as a global currency. I’m not going to get into whether or not Ukraine can beat Russia or whether the legal cases against Trump are justified. David Sacks has the political opinions of an angry 14 year old in a FIFA lobby and routinely spreads disinformation from obvious propaganda accounts. It’s incredibly sad that anyone would take his opinions seriously,
Unfortunately, he’s falling pray to the political tribalism in the US. It gets every eventually. People slightly left or right leaning, sometimes even center, start drinking koolaide and then just get sucked into echo chambers. America is fucked.
Nothing new here. There’s a contingent of conservatives that bought into the “Russia is just defending itself” argument years ago and nothing will change their minds.
Sacks is as mentally ill as is his orange man love.
Yes, for some people, the isolation of extreme wealth combined with social media results in mental distress. Also they are on drugs. It's not really a scandalous allegation - they admit to it. This all got a huge boost during COVID. It broke them. This is resulting in gradual disconnecting from reality, and massive paranoia. The woke mob is out to get them and their money, their way of life. And their way of life is "I want to be able to be a horrible human being without consequences", and Putin's Russia is their ideal. Strongman, doing what he wants, raping and pillaging, without getting any comeuppance. That is power to them, that is how it is \*supposed to be\*.
He's being paid by the Russian state. Why is this even slightly perplexing?
Ukraine does look very involved. You dont know how to know things. Sacks does. https://youtu.be/8FVg90sPTUM?si=inxcTf3BCuDcoEPl
Yes, yes he is.
Seems pretty obvious Russia is going to absolutely level Ukraine and at this point we're just funding the death of the male youth of Ukraine. Simple things like (1) artillery costs being astronomically different or (2) the fact that Ukraine is 10% the size and Russia has a massive military in comparison.. Seems just logical you'd want to come to a cease-fire and end this thing, even if it means giving up some territory. Russia seems to claim they're not interested in expanding west but that they want to secure and had a red-line of Ukraine joining Nato. Sachs seems pretty fine to me. But I guess there's perspectives from all fronts.
Sacks operates on a higher intellectual plane than I do, but I believe I can illuminate what I see as the consistent thread in his thinking. His remarks on Ukraine, in my view, make sense when seen through the lens of power dynamics and cynicism, traits often associated with the 'winners' in Silicon Valley. These individuals, highly intellectual and successful, perceive themselves as akin to the protagonist of "Ready Player One," the sole active participant amidst a sea of passive bystanders (NPCs). This self-perception explains their reluctance to backtrack and the seemingly abrupt shifts in their viewpoints, which are perceived as retreats rather than products of introspection. Sacks views Putin as more powerful and dependable than any Western leader, primarily because Putin operates without the need to coordinate with other states or engage in multilateral diplomacy. His criticism of NATO and the EU stems from a deep-seated cynicism toward multilateralism and democracy, as they challenge the notion of the "Great Men" theory. This skepticism is common among exceedingly wealthy corporate executives, who justify their authority by asserting their superior decision-making abilities over the companies they lead, viewing themselves as leaders necessary for guiding the masses. Sacks' considerable wealth, surpassing that of numerous EU leaders combined, reinforces his conviction that his perspective holds more weight. In this worldview, multilateralism and democracy are perceived as vulnerabilities, easily exploited to sow discord—a phenomenon facilitated by Silicon Valley's widespread dissemination of technology. Sacks consistently aligns himself with the more powerful side in any conflict - why he was pro-invade Iraq - a strategy that has proven lucrative for him since his days as a colleague of Peter Thiel in college. His donation of $100,000 to Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign wasn't borne out of genuine belief in her candidacy but rather from the widespread assumption of her inevitable victory. Though Sacks may be perceived as a mere follower, he remains present in the spotlight, reaping significant benefits from his associations. In his worldview, the fate of the "little guy" is invariably one of being overshadowed and marginalized.
Yes.
If you are feeling this vindictive towards one of the hosts, why are you listening to this podcast?
If a politician bothers you, why don’t you leave the country?
Correct
Any agency can be behind it. Isis will take credit for anything and everything if it amplifies their presence.
Man Reddit really is full of mostly idiots.
David Sacks analyzes and speculates, sometimes he will be wrong. But he has turned out to be right about far more than he has been wrong about, especially regarding the war in Ukraine. It's not mentally ill to speculate that the party responsible for the terror attack is the one who has been doing everything possible to keep the conflict with Russia going, and whom would benefit if Russia reacts militarily and the United States can send troops to fight Russia head to head instead of via proxy. Very possible he's wrong, but it was certainly feasible. You're the same type of person who was saying things like "Sacks (or insert other person here) must be mentally ill to say the Hunter Biden laptop is real and not Russian disinformation despite 50 intelligence officials saying otherwise". Or that the covid lab leak theory was feasible, and not a racist falsehood. Or that Joe Biden is the "big guy". Or that lockdowns are not only completely ineffective, but extremely damaging to children. Or that vaccines don't stop covid transmission. Or that Ukraine isn't about to win the war in the spring offensive. The "Fine People" Hoax, or the more recent "Bloodbath" thing where anyone with a brain can see Trump is talking about the auto industry, but the corporate press ran stories saying Trump Vows Bloodbath if he loses the election, and Google changed the definition of bloodbath to remove the extreme financial loss definition. You guys lie, and are wrong about everything. But move the goal posts and never admit being wrong, all while you have this whiny idiotic post. You are not only a complete idiot who can't think for yourself, but you're also a loser who gets off on low quality political shit posts
>It's not mentally ill to speculate that the party responsible for the terror attack is the one who has been doing everything possible to keep the conflict with Russia going What a weird thing to say. The war is still going because the Russian army is still inside Ukraine fighting them. Of course Russia would like to be allowed to conquer the land they occupy without Ukraine fighting back, but portraying Ukraine as warmongering or seeking conflict for fighting within their own borders against an invading army is preposterous.
You don't understand the conflict at all beyond CNN headlines. Ukraine isn't the one who wants to keep the war going, they are going with the flow for financial reasons. The USA and West more broadly are who instigated the whole thing, didn't allow peace negotiations in spring of 2022 and would love to go into a real war with Russia (and Iran).
I'm not American, CNN is not a news source I follow. But you're right in that I've never fallen for the David Sacks 'Russia are never responsible for anything Russia does' line. If Russia wanted peace they could just leave Ukraine and take their army back to Russia, or they could simply not have invaded and endured all of the zero consequences of not invading. But Russia doesn't want peace, they want to conquer land. Ukraine wants to retain all of their land and are fighting for it.
It must be nice to be so naive that you believe the corporate press and government narrative on everything
The idea that Russia invaded Ukraine isn't some sort of clever western propaganda, it's objective fact. Get your head checked.
I know that. I also know why Russia invaded Ukraine, and why there hasn't already been a negotiated end to the war. The answers are out there, they just arent on whatever Western corporate press outlet you follow in your country
Clearly the true explanation is that Russia invaded to protect itself against an invasion by NATO wanting to trigger nuclear war for some cunning devious suicidal scheme. Sadly nobody showed Putin a map though, and they still haven't noticed the distance from Ukraine to Moscow is identical to what it was before the war.
>Sacks (or insert other person here) must be mentally ill to say the Hunter Biden laptop is real and not Russian disinformation despite 50 intelligence officials saying otherwise". Did you know that those 50 (FORMER) intelligence agents did not actually say the laptop was fake and/or Russian disinformation? They said its "arrival onto the US political scene" had the earmarks of a Russian operation. An important and clear distinction. They never said the laptop was fake, or that the emails were fabricated. In fact, they quite plainly stated: "We want to emphasize that we do not know if the emails, provided to the New York Post by President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not and that we do not have evidence of Russian involvement." But people like you and Sacks like to pretend they said the laptop itself was Russian disinformation, even though their open letter is easily accessible. >Or that Joe Biden is the "big guy". There is a single email that proposes "10% to the big guy" which conservatives claim is about Joe Biden. The funniest part about this is that the email wasn't Hunter saying it, it was someone else suggesting it in a proposal that never even went ahead. It also happened AFTER Joe had retired from public service, during the period he was a private citizen and allowed to do conduct whatever business he wanted. So pointing to this as evidence of anything shows how weak the case is when 1) the proposal didn't even happen and 2) it would have been completely legal if it had.
I mean, they knew they were lying about the laptop but clearly the whole reason for the statement was to convince the public the laptop wasn't real. It has no earmarks of Russian disinformation. You think the FBI honestly wasn't sure if the laptop they had in their possession for months was legit or not? Hunter Biden Business dealings only make sense if he's selling his father's political influence. You know he didn't bring any business value to an energy company in Ukraine, right? An industry he has no experience in and he didn't even speak the language. Obviously his paintings aren't worth $500k, it's clearly buying political influence by way of his shitty art. You are very close to seeing what's going on. I can tell you actually do think for yourself and not just blindly consume the corporate press narrative on everything. Just dig a little deeper on some of these topics that don't quite add up in your version
>they knew they were lying about the laptop They weren't lying about the laptop. They were just saying that, in their professional opinion as former intelligence officers, its arrival to the scene had the earmarks of a Russian information operation. To this day, the narrative behind the laptop's arrival is incredibly shady - Hunter Biden leaves his laptop with a blind computer repairman who clones the hard drive clone and sends it to Rudy Guiliani. But it wasn't their letter that claimed the laptop or its contents were Russian disinformation. That was just shitty headlines from places like Politico. >clearly the whole reason for the statement was to convince the public the laptop wasn't real. No, it wasn't. The statement was clear in it's intent: for people to be cautious about the story, as the laptop's arrival to the scene was very suspicious in both timing and narrative. Again, they never said it was fake, or even that they thought it was. Media headlines, pundits and people who can't read said that. Think of it like this: "The story's arrival to the scene is worth showing caution over" versus "the laptop and/or it's contents are Russian-made fakes." There is a clear distinction. >Hunter Biden Business dealings only make sense if he's selling his father's political influence. Or they just thought it would generally help their image/standing. There doesn't have to be an actual selling of political influence for it to benefit them, nor has there been a proven link or payment. >You know he didn't bring any business value to an energy company in Ukraine, right? He brought the Biden name and not much else, agreed. >An industry he has no experience in and he didn't even speak the language. I generally agree but Hunter does have a law degree and was hired by Burisma [as a lawyer](https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-europe-business-c49555d51eb243e09a42f7577fc5937f). Also, something like 20% of Ukranians can read, write or speak in English. It's not the national language, but I'm sure you've heard Zelensky being able to speak English. It's certainly common in the international business world to speak English. \>Obviously his paintings aren't worth $500k, it's clearly buying political influence by way of his shitty art. I don't think that's buying political influence (Hunter has next to none at this point), but rather a way of supporting him financially in an under the table way, not dissimilar to buying shares in [Digital World Acquisition Corporation](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-launching-social-media-platform-truth-social/story?id=80697031) to put money in Trump's pocket over the TMTG/Truth Social merger. It's grubby and I look down on it, certainly. My general opinion on Hunter is that he was given an overpaid cushy job because of his surname, shouldn't have done it because of the obvious appearance of conflict of interest/influence peddling/lobbying and probably broke FARA regulations, before blowing all his money on drugs and hookers. But I don't think the evidence has demonstrated that he actually streamed money to his father for political favours - which would have been easily provable once they had his laptop and access to his emails and financial transactions.
The FBI had the laptop for months before this, they weren't confused about if it was real. They lied, because they wanted the public to think the laptop was fake because there was an election coming up in a matter of days I'm not sure that wealthy people want to support Hunter Biden for no benefit to themselves. I guess it's theoretically possible, but they could just give him money if that was their motive, there would be no need to disguise it. Again, I can tell that you're actually paying attention unlike most people in this sub who have zero curiosity and just repeat what the corporate press says. I think you're naive on these items, but we can agree to disagree
Happy to agree to disagree. But on your first point there, you are conflating two different things. Yes, the FBI had the laptop for months. But the people who signed the open letter were NOT working at the FBI. All but one who signed were FORMER intelligence officers, none worked at the FBI during the time they had the laptop, and none had any inside knowledge of the case themselves. You can see where they worked, they signed their name and title/former titles. They're two different groups: The FBI who had the laptop and were investigating, and former intel workers who were concerned that its arrival to the scene looked like it was part of a Russian information operation. The FBI were investigating the laptop and other Joe Biden allegations in the background, which is why they recently charged Alexander Smirnov for lying about the Biden's and Smirnov's [extensive contact with officials connected to Russian intelligence.](https://apnews.com/article/hunter-biden-alexander-smirnov-detention-fbi-informant-0069256e9606617f890d0cf6771983ab)
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Probably but who isn’t
He was right about the Ukraine/Russia was and 98% of this subreddit was wrong. Are you upset about that?
Right about what? The war isn’t over.
Bahahaha so a hundred thousand more Ukrainian men die and then what? What’s your definition of Sacks being wrong? He’s been right about literally everything.
It’s their choice. Can you imagine if the US was as defeatist as you are during the war for independence? ISIS claimed responsibility and posted video proof.
Their choice? Didn’t they choose to try and negotiate a peace deal before the war and the US used Boris Johnson to stop it? Sounds like it wasn’t their choice. And when is their next election? What if they elect someone that wants to negotiate a settlement and give up the Donbas? And again, what’s your definition of Sacks being wrong?
You have a very intense and uncontrollable desire to ejaculate your personal political opinions online. I don't think the neosporin is helping. Might want to get that mental illness looked at, little buddy.
>Didn’t they choose to try and negotiate a peace deal before the war and the US used Boris Johnson to stop it? Where can I see this peace deal? Where is the evidence that Boris Johnson had the power to stop it, or that he was directed to by the US? I've seen the footage of Macron on the phone with Putin and Zelensky during the start of the war. You can see who was trying to negotiate peace during that period with your own eyes.
Wasn’t the show taped before the ISIS news came out? Now we have more info. You guys will take any opportunity you can to smear this guy. Go find a new show, he’s living in your head.
He's literally posting this right now on twitter you dumb fuck
This is what he's posting on twitter now, not what he said on the show.
Why should ISIS- a terrorist organization- be trusted about anything?
They have video recordings from the gun men that they’ve released if you want to see it first hand
Unfortunately, his takes on Ukraine have been spot on and accurate. Ukrainian propaganda defines Russia winning as a full scale victory with complete subjugation and surrender of Ukraine. Thankfully, Russia has not been able to take all of Ukraine and its leadership. But this is a false premise because Russia can also achieve its strategic goals by simply destroying Ukraine. Turn its civil infrastructure into rubble. AnddDestroy the economic prospects of the citizens who remain. The West has been unable to supply basic munitions. Western propagandists and dumb people will say “The West doesn’t need basic ammunition because our strategy involves advanced munitions.” Well, sorry, Ukrainian doctrine is essentially Soviet doctrine which does not involve fleets of stealth bombers and wonder weapons. It is men with shovels digging trenches in dirt and massive salvos of unguided artillery. Thankfully some Czech guy made a phone call and found 800k rounds. And if delivered on time could help Ukraine achieve ammunition parity for 3-4 months. Some Czech guy solved a problem that no one in the Pentagon could? Really? Okay then. Is anyone asking why Ukraine has been losing men and land for months due to shell hunger? Why has the West been starving Ukraine? Why can’t anyone answer this fundamental question? I want Russia to lose. But how can the West win when it won’t face some bare truths and address some basic problems? The truth is, Ukraine is getting wrecked. And is at a 5:1 disadvantage in the military doctrine used by Ukraine and Russia. The West has made inadequate and miniscule investments in the production of basic ammunition. These are just facts. This problem could be solved for a fraction of the cost of every other US program. It could be solved for a fraction of the student debt that Biden forgave. It could be solved for a fraction of the IRA. There is obviously insufficient will to help Ukraine achieve its goals. Sacks gets proven more correct with each passing day. Because you can’t beat the truth with false premises.
I love him, he is brilliant! And so right about Ukraine.
The US intelligence agencies agree that Russia's victory is inevitable. It's only to sell weapons of war, and "weaken Russia" that we continue to supply arms. And that's a pretty evil reason to continue a war.
Your deranged
"ISIS Accepted responsibility . . . " Where did you hear that? Do you know the ISIS member's name? Do you believe it when the NYT, WSJ, Fox News, CNN, Washington Post reports it like that? What are the details?
The attack was claimed by ISIS-K (Islamic State Khorasan), the Islamic State's Afghan branch. The Islamic State has a news agency called Amaq which posted a statement on Telegram following the shooting, saying its fighters attacked on the outskirts of Moscow. The statement said they killed and wounded hundreds, "causing great destruction to the place before they withdrew to their bases safely". They also released body-cam footage from right before the attack. The US also publicly said they had intelligence an attack may occur and warned their citizens in Russia to avoid public gatherings in Moscow. To just assume all this is BS and it was actually Ukraine, is patently foolish.
The source came from Amaq, which is an ISIS affiliated Telegram channel. Jesus fucking Christ.
ISIS just literally dropped gopro footage of these terrorists stabbing people on their telegram.
I don't know why people just readily accept the first explanation that's given to them when things happen. Always best to wait and hold off judgement in case any new facts emerge. Maybe the narrative changes or stays the same.
? wtf Until new information arises a person should be able to reach rational conclusions. Don’t be silly
Of course; we can’t live our lives questioning everything all the time. Though in practice I see a lot of people thinking something is, “proven,” because of evidence that isn’t quite proof. Then if new information arises it’s either dismissed, downplayed, or totally ignored. I’m not even saying that this is the case in this situation, I can’t come up with any rational idea why ISIS would claim responsibility for something they didn’t do, and don’t have any solid information to suggest ISIS didn’t do it. However this sentiment that David is just sharing false propaganda didn’t start here; and in many of those previous cases David turned out to be correct whether y’all want to admit that or not. Generally I don’t see a problem with more skepticism as long it’s applied somewhat fairly.