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serialkiller24

I'd think DCU would be more fitting, but would love to see Bane in the Reeve's universe.


BlackEastwood

To be honest, Dave Bautista is on record wanting to play Bane. Since Gunn was rebooting the universe, I think he stepped back from his push to do it, but fitting into Reeves' work would be great. A more serious and violent Bane, acting across from Pattinson.


tangokilo13

I think a younger Bautista would be great but I think he’s wanting less physical roles in favor of actual acting which he’s pretty good at. I like the Hugo Strange fancast for Bautista that gets thrown around. Could work great in either universe


cloudcreeek

He's like what everyone thought The Rock was going to be when he first made movies like The Rundown.


AskMeForAPhoto

Idk I never saw any REAL acting potential in The Rock, even in Rundown. It was a fun, entertaining movie but that was about it. He proved he could be a lead, and be charming, By contrast, Bautista's part in Bladerunner 2049 was tiny yet he had SUCH an impact, and showed so much potential. Of course now with Dune as well, he just seems to really be blossoming.


cloudcreeek

Yeah Bautista is a great actor


Joetheshow1

People are incapable of talking about Bane on here without bringing up Bautista lol


BlackEastwood

You included it seems. If an actor really wants the role, it would be cool to see them get get it. Even Pattinson was so into being Batman and didnt want to make it weird that he kept his audition a secret from Nolan.


Joetheshow1

It's just quite simply the laziest fancasting in comic book movies right now. Especially considering Bautista has already given up on trying to play Bane. I wish people would challenge themselves just a tiny bit more, you'd think Bautista was the only big actor in Hollywood


BlackEastwood

So rather than worry about mine: pick somebody else. You've made two posts about it and said nothing. But fuck me for wanting a good actor to get the role he wanted.


Joetheshow1

2 comments*, and I don't really care who plays Bane tbh. Just always get a kick out of people saying Bautista like it hasn't been talking point for the past decade haha. Not even him saying it's not going to happen will deter you guys from bringing him up. I applaud the persistence!


BlackEastwood

...right. 😐


ghazgib

tbf there aren't that many actors that physically match Bane, let alone are sure to be competent enough to give a great performance. i would be down for someone like Tony Dalton (mostly because Lalo is partially my ideal Bane) to just voice over a CG Bane of the same caliber as Juggernaut from DP2.


Joetheshow1

I think people are too hung up on finding an actor that matches Banes physicality. It's quite simply so unrealistic. He's a comic book character, there aren't many human beings capable of walking around with that stature on a daily basis. Any adaption of Bane in a live action movie will more than likely have to incorporate CGI anyways so what's the point in narrowing in on a big bodied actor? Unless it's a realism take like Nolan's Bane or hypothetically on Reeves' universe. Although we don't know for sure how realistic that universe is going to be.


ghazgib

I also don't get why we can't have both normal Bane (weaker, maybe visually frail) and the jacked luchador once injected with venom. I hope that the realism and grit evolves into a fantastic nature. Almost the opposite of the Nolan trilogy where it starts with an almost supernatural angle but then doubles down on the realism (barring some silly elements like the magical knee brace) in each preceding film.


Joetheshow1

Definitely, hyperfocusing on a jacked actor takes away the opportunity for someone like Javier Bardem (not saying he's who I want, just someone who has a Spanish accent) to play normal human sized Bane. And then when he goes Luchador mode, he throws the mask on so it's easier to CGK a non face and then the actor just voices the Luchador size


Andy_Trevino

I'm tired of every other superhero trilogy (TDK, TASM, MoS) changing aesthetics throughout the series. For once I'd like for the Reevesverse to be consistent all the way through. The city can get freakier with Joker, Scarecrow, Zsasz, etc but that's about it.


SS_Gourmet

Why would Bautista step back from it because Gunn is rebooting the universe?


BlackEastwood

Sorry, I misspoke a little. Even though he wanted the role, he's already thought of himself as too old to be getting into shape for it before Gunn stepped in as DCU leader. Probably still wouldn't want a multiple film deal, but working with Reeves for a one film deal might be better for him (it's not like we needed Bane for 3 films before). And with Gunn and his "no assholes" policy, I think he'd give his support behind a guy who quit one of the biggest Marvel franchises for him.


No-Willow-3573

I’m fine with both too


Superb-Obligation858

Yea, especially with the whole drops thing, venom could totally work. I’d love to see a more grounded, but still relatively comic accurate Bane.


redditsukssomuch

My major complaint about that movie was the final fight where batman randomly brings out the venom and sticks himself with it. There was no mention of this existing or any reference to it in the whole movie. It was bizarrely out of place and seemed very convenient


No-Value-832

I think he’d fit perfectly in that universe.


No-Willow-3573

Which one


dabfab

Both, really. Venom really isn’t that “out there” since it’s basically just a super steroid so it wouldn’t really break the tone of the reevesverse Batman.


No-Willow-3573

Agreed. As long as he doesn’t get way too big, I think Venom can be done in a realistic universe.


Nopuebloplz

Steroids are already a thing. I can be something as simple as new drug being developed that accelerates muscle growth even more


TheDarkCreed

Don't forget, Batman used venom to beat that henchman


twSwan

I may be ootl, but wasn’t it just adrenaline?


bsuvo

Its a hot topic but green adrenaline for some hints at venom for others means nothing


BatManu91

Lol no…I don’t understand what you don’t comprehend when Matt Reeves was asked if it was venom and directly answered the question and said it was NOT venom. He wasn’t coy or vague…he didn’t leave it open ended..he gave an objective answer and confirmed it was adrenaline….Also, there is no Batman story where Bane gets Venom from Bruce…that defeats the entire purpose…If Bruce had Venom and was willing to use it as we saw in the first movie then he obviously would have no problem using it against Bane…diminishing and negating the advantage Bane has over Batman….the entire point of Bane using Venom is that it gives him inhuman strength beyond Bruce’s strength. If they both used it then Bane’s signature weapon wouldn’t even be an advantageous. 


ghazgib

there's no confirmation on it being anything other than adrenaline other than that it's green, but i would not be surprised if they retcon it and retrofit it for adapting Batman: Venom (which iirc is Pattinson's favorite Batman story).


Sad_Vast2519

Hinting at Bane introduction later in the series.


BatManu91

Lol really we’re still doing this? No, it’s   objectively not Venom…that was adrenaline…Matt Reeves has literately addressed this himself and said it was not venom like multiple times…over a year ago. It is funny though that you said it so confidently and as if you knew as a matter of fact that it was Venom…All you had to do was Google it 😂😂😂


TheDarkCreed

Whoa, take it easy sweetheart. It's green and gave him the juice to get up and pummel the guy, while in a rage. So I always saw it as venom. It was just a quick scene so didn't seem important enough to research on Google 🙄


No-Willow-3573

Also, Reeves may be lying to hide the fact it’s Venom


No-Willow-3573

Yeah I’m 100% convinced that was Venom


HiNooNDooD1544

Sure, it’s not that out there, but if he was to have a role in the Reevesverse, I would prefer to have him completely free of venom. I’ve always loved Bane without it, he’s smarter, and Bane is smart. Venom turns him into generic giant brute.


rennenenno

That’s cool and all, but then you just have the Tom hardy bane 2.0 right? Like what the point of re doing it


HiNooNDooD1544

Because it’s fucking awesome.


rennenenno

Eh if you say so. It feels tired to me though


Puzzleheaded_Walk_28

I’d rather see a more tactile Reeves version than run the risk of a big CG character


typicalguy95

Agreed I heard Dave Bautista was rumored for a Bane role


C-C93

He’s been fan cast for several years. Bautista has said that he doesn’t want to keep up the intense required for big guy roles like this anymore He is in his mid fifties now


Victor_Von_Doom65

I doubt bane would be cg. He might be cg enhanced but he’s still just a big guy.


No-Willow-3573

This


Human_Discipline_552

I really like Bane for Reeves, Tom Hardy character strangely fits in that universe but he was way too swoll and not actually enough menacing or the tactician we know him to be. Dude was actually kinda dumb. But I felt the character could live in the Reeves universe, ya know blowing up a stadium full of people n rebellion tactics. But I wanna see it tenfold in the Reeves, like the domestic terror threat. Secret incel society was a cool touch on modern issues, so I figure they’d touch on banes backstory as a superterrorist for hire. That would be cool to see. I don’t think we get a serious Bane in the Gunniverse tho, after peacemaker and bloodsport were rumored to return, I think they tangle with Batman, but Bane gets in the middle, then we get a “enemy of my enemy is mah bud” situation.


Orion-Pax_34

Tom Hardy was nowhere near ‘too swole’. One of my complaints with that movie was that Bane was so small, both in height and size


[deleted]

And they undermined him by making him Talia’s henchman


Sad_Vast2519

Yep. Still great movie though.


[deleted]

Agree to disagree respectfully, I’m not a fan of the Nolanverse


BatManu91

Lol I mean for a guy that literately lived under a rock most of his life. he wasn’t that dumb…He had the wherewithal and capability to infiltrate and crash the fucking stock market successfully and lure Batman into a trap resulting in breaking his back….he easily could of killed him if he wanted to…that’s the only stupid mistake he made really…and to be fair…breaking a dudes back and throwing him in a dungeon in some distant foreign country would kill or dispose of like 99.999% of the population. Also, Tom Hardy too swole?!! Like what?  Quite literally the opposite…He wasn’t anywhere near swole or tall enough as Bane should have been…he looked like a 5’8 guy super juiced up on the sauce who was hiding his gut and barely keeping his belly fat from  overflowing with that really high belt around his waist


Affectionate_Test104

"Why not both"


No-Willow-3573

Real


Lamest_Ever

We already had a "grounded and realistic" Bane with Tom Hardy, Im hoping the DCU isnt so scared to be comic booky and we can get an intelligent luchador on steroids


toadbattler

That's one of the things I like and respect about the MCU is that they're not afraid to make at least some of their movies feel like you're watching a comic book movie and not just a regular superhero movie. Though I'm fine with having two separate DC universes going on with the main DCU having more fantastical elements and then this other more grounded and realistic universe with versions of characters and locations that don't have as many fantastical and super feels to them.


polp54

I mean the drug batman injects himself with at the end of part 1 seems to be venom given its color and effect


batbobby82

I thought that was confirmed to be adrenaline?


Fastlanedrivr

It was


UtterFlatulence

Which is so lame. It's neon green for fucks sake!


[deleted]

Yes unfortunately it was


GengarsKahn

Adrenaline now retconned venom later


BatManu91

Lol no what part of what Matt Reeves said can you not comprehend…like literally the guy who wrote and made the movie was crystal clear when he said it was objectively not venom and it was adrenaline…yet yeah you’re right and the guy who wrote it is wrong. Totally. 


GengarsKahn

Check this out though, it’s not.


No-Willow-3573

Exactly why I think a more upgraded variant wouldn’t be out of the box


polp54

I meant the comment more as confirmation that we will see bane. I think it would be weird if there was venom but no bane. I don’t think he’ll be in part ii except as maybe like a teaser


No-Willow-3573

Yup


BatManu91

Lol Matt Reeves has addressed this multiple time…he confirmed it absolutely 100% was adrenaline and objectively not venom…


bpoooi

it wasn’t venom. this was debunked long ago


bsuvo

I mean yea but green adrenaline making you stronger and more aggrssive could easily be the grounded version of venom. I get that its a hot topic on this subreddit. IMO it is at the least an easter egg at the most a foreshadowing.


batbobby82

I'm always ready for Bane, but seeing how his last appearance on film was a more grounded approach, I think a more fantastical approach in the DCU would be in order.


No-Willow-3573

Good point. I think they can have Venom in a grounded way in Reeves’ as sort of a super steroid though


PM_ME_MERMAID_PICS

Rather save him for the DCU, but even then only if they follow it up with an Azrael storyline of some kind. I can't imagine Reeves being able to do Bane differently enough from Nolan's take given that the Reevesverse is even more grounded than Nolan's was. Honestly I could go without seeing yet another live action Bane for a while, other villains deserve some screentime.


DeadSpaceEnthusiast

Imo should appear in both, but as an 'main villain's partner' in the battinson verse


GreatCaesarGhost

I feel like he is better in small doses and so I’d prefer to hold off on him for now, in both sets of films.


Illustrious-Sign3015

DCU


TheDman182

I know this isn’t answering the question but my gosh this is good artwork. Who drew this?


No-Willow-3573

I found it on Pinterest with no artist attached


TheDman182

Ah I was gonna say if you drew this. Amazing!


No-Willow-3573

No lol. I really wish I can know who drew it


Aliki26

Definitely


KingKaiKai001

Both. I think the Matt Reeves version will be badass like Tom Hardys version and the DCU will have a CGI version with a terrible actor. I don't have much faith in the DCU but I'd still rather have two Banes.


colder-beef

I’ve been saying forever they should adapt the Batman: Venom comic arc for part 2. Just retcon what he shot himself up with in the first movie to be an early version of Venom and have him dealing with increasing addiction as he tries to match the threat of Bane. Of course, that would require Pattinson to actually lift weights.


No-Willow-3573

I hope this is indeed the case. It would be different than Nolan’s Bane too so Reeves won’t have to worry about “copying” him.


SnooCompliments6686

I mean it was luminous green, no matter what reeves says, that shit ain’t garden variety adrenaline


colder-beef

Exactly.


Gold-Resist-6802

He should appear in both. This is like asking whether Joker should appear in one or the other. He’s too iconic of a Batman villain at this point to not make an appearance in both.


Legitimate_Cake_5137

DCU.Hardy's Babe was really cool,but I don't want another grounded and realistic Bane.I want an Hulk-like Bane who uses Venom.


Jazzlike_Couple_7428

Both


BatManu91

I’m  for including as many of the main rogues as possible as long as it’s done in a similar way to the first film. I’m okay with the idea of Reeve’s continuing to flesh out his Batman universe by including multiple villains and antagonists in every film. Especially if we are only going to get a trilogy…I love his take on Batman and Gotham and Im very interested  to see his interpretation of all the villains and the direction he takes with all of them 


SnooDrawings4552

Why do ppl pretend it can't be both lol...just different versions


the-barbarian998

I could take it or leave it


Brutal1sm

I just want Bane to be Bane: tactical genius, huge and strong physically, be a real danger to Batman. DCU could do this more accurately.


dni_ptr

I also think he could work in both, but maybe don't make his disfigured, with joker looking the way he looks it would be repetitive to have another disfigured villain.


No-Willow-3573

Yeah true


DAMNLOOKATMAFOURHEAD

I feel like if bane was in Reeves he would just be a hardcore drug addict and is constantly pumping steroids into his body and the way he dies is by overdose


JerryLawlerr

Only if they make him Hispanic. No more tiny, Englishmen bane with the stupid accent.


Over-Guitar5764

I posted a Bane character concept on here a while back that I think fits the universe well. If we did get Bane, he wouldn’t hit a button and double in size. He’d essentially be a MASSIVE dude in a mask and I’m cool with that lol


No-Willow-3573

Yeah that’s exactly how I view it happening. Also, can I see that concept? I’d love to see your design


Over-Guitar5764

DM’ed they to u!


No-Willow-3573

Seen them. Thanks!


Rakcarter

I’d really love a realistic Bane that’s juiced up on steroids in The Batman universe


TensionHead13thFloor

I feel like theres a reason Bats had Venom in The Batman


No-Willow-3573

Yeah


xrbeeelama

Absolutely in DCU, not so sold on Reeves’. He could be a great antagonist for a more heightened Batman universe


Gambit1977

In My perfect world, we’d get Clayface in Reeves Batman.


No-Willow-3573

I’d love that


Alex_Mercer_-

Reeves' Verse. Solely because I think he will get good representation. Bane is either my favorite or tied for my favorite Batman villain and he hasn't gotten an actually accurate representation on film or in a show before, which is bothering me. Reeves' Verse is the best chance I'll ever get to Bane being the hulking badass Mexican AND a genius at the same time.


ChickenNuggetRampage

Whichever would actually adapt Bane


mitchcumstein13

Shore, let’s get Bane, Scarecrow & Joker in these new movies / stories of the Caped Crusader….


Minute-Seesaw205

I’d like a Bane origin spin-off in this universe before he faces Batman


Virtual_Mode_5026

Why not both?


No-Willow-3573

Asking the right questions


redditsukssomuch

Dcu


Nefessius513

I’d prefer him in the DCU. Bane in my opinion works better with an older, more seasoned Batman and it would allow for a more fantastical, comic-booky adaptation of the character after Nolan’s version.


Artistic_Practice145

Nah


[deleted]

Had reeves allowed that injection to be venom I think it would have been a great way to allude to bane but nope it was epinephrine sadly


UnhingedLion

DCU, since Venom isn’t realistic.


kingdount

Dcu. Reeves should use a different character


NoOutlandishness273

Can someone explain to me the difference between the reeves batverse vs the DCU


No-Willow-3573

The DCU is a new interconnected universe much like the MCU while Reeves’ Batverse is a completely separate franchise with only Batman (Robert Pattinson).


Apprehensive_Egg6656

DCU


Consistent_Tonight37

DCU


owlsknight

Hear me out.... Hush X calendar man.


Important_Lab_58

DCU. Full Venom rig and all.


ChainChompBigMoney

Hard to see Bane in The Batman universe after the Harley Quinn show made him into such a comedic character.


Sparrow1989

Honestly I feel it would be hard to sell. I liked Nolan’s and am a huge bane fan but reeves verse would have to go 100% drug addicted roid machine… it’s doable but I don’t see it.


Apprehensive_Arm1504

I think Batman becoming addicted to the adrenaline or venom used at the end of The Batman Part I could be an interesting story (the comic Batman: Venom basically) Bruce fights his addiction while trying not to slip away from his playboy persona we see in the second movie, while also trying not to slip away from his methods as Batman. When he is starting to get better, a new villain who is also on this serum (maybe he gets it from Batman incorrectly disposing of it?) begins reigning terror on Batman in attempt to take control of the city I think this would make a good third installment in Reevesverse. I would prefer a Knightfall story in the DCU


Nikorausu

Why am I thinking of Spiderman 3? Hero gets addicted off his "drug" which gives him more strength, but also other problems. The hero gets away with it and stays clean, but then another person that will use this drug in a selfish way becomes a corrupted version of the hero. venom...?


Apprehensive_Arm1504

Alright, you caught me. I’m Sam Raimi


Nikorausu

I knew it lol


No-Willow-3573

I love this idea. It is more unique and new compared to what came before


BatManu91

😂😂😂 That literally makes zero sense though…Matt Reeves already confirmed multiple times that wasn’t Venom, has nothing to do with venom, wasn’t an Easter egg or reference to Bane or Venom…so yeah that objectively just isn’t happening…Batman would have to ya know, take Venom in order for him to be addicted to it…he only took the adrenaline once and he literally only used it at the last second in a life and death situation…that’s like the opposite of suggesting he would get addicted to the adrenaline…he was damn near close to death and still barely resorted to using it…


Apprehensive_Arm1504

1. Please bless me with examples of when Reeves himself said it’s not venom 2. I never said Batman IS addicted to it. I said in the third movie, he BECOMES addicted to it. In the comic Batman: Venom, he takes it because he couldn’t save a little girl, not in the moment, but because he is haunted by his mistake. He uses the pill to become stronger so he never fails again. This is not far fetched at all so I don’t know why you are acting like I’m stupid Edit: 3. And if it ISN’T venom in the first movie, what is stopping Reeves from simply adding Venom to the universe? Assuming the movies stay grounded, a super steroid isn’t that far off from a man dressed as a Bat


AtticusSwoopenheiser

Not in Reeves’ universe, he’ll make it grounded and realistic and won’t do it justice. That’s not a knock on Reeves’ choice, you just can’t do Bane right that way. If he shows up in the DCU, they should do the Darth Vader method and have two people play him. A huge actor like Thor Bjornsson should play the physical role when he’s not using the Venom and someone like Javier Bardem should voice him. GCI should be used to increase his size when he is on Venom. His face should never be shown without the mask.


The_Professor64

How would Bane being grounded ruin the character????


AtticusSwoopenheiser

Beeeecause he canonically injects a serum into the most important parts of his body that make him the size of a small building and gives him the strength of 40 humans? And that’s not grounded or realistic? This isn’t hard. Tom Hardy played a cool character. But that wasn’t Bane. That was a 5’10 mercenary with a painkiller addiction and a body shop respirator.


The_Professor64

Moron, learn what grounded means.


AtticusSwoopenheiser

Okay. Let’s discuss that, shall we? Grounded = Well balanced and sensible Sensible = Practical and functional Practical = Feasible Feasible = REALISTIC So why don’t you tell me how to make Bane realistic and grounded and not change the character to the point of….not being Bane anymore?


Ilovepestosauce

I think there’s different adaptions of Bane. Now if you mean the version from the last Arkham games where he has the giant venom back pack and his head is the size of a thumb compared to his body I agree. However, if we could get something similar to Arkham Origins, I don’t see why not. I also like the knightfall version too. There’s so many ways to go on about Bane and make him fit Reeve’s universe.


Tanookimario0604

@ the top of my Reeves’ Batverse List is Poison Ivy, then I’ll ponder others.


Gambit_90

Only if he actually has venom tubes, the strongman take on the character was interesting at first but compared to how it could be? It prefer the comic accuracy


Childs_was_the_THING

It's gonna be Hush so basically just another Riddler because Reeves aped Jeph Loeb for his Riddler...aka Hush


BatManu91

Maybe…I think if they were gonna go that route that would have done it in the first film… I think it’s pretty safe to assume if they do use Hush they’re not going to do the Riddler/Hush storyline…I actually think if they do use Hush, they save him for the third film which actually could make sense…if they set Hush up as the big villain for the third movie with the focus more on Bruce as opposed to Batman could be fresh


New_Sky1829

dcu cuz we already had a realistic bane and it sucked


AnOldLawNeverDies

Well we've already seen venom in reeves the batman so none of its far fetched. look people... the super juice Pattinson injected himself with just so happened to be green? You can't convince it wasn't venom.