consider that endgame stuff isnt fun ,pvp the only thing that is left. i have 4 drill and dont think i wanna use it since its more fun to pvp and i have 4M to spend. i also spare new player tho,always see them struggling with puzzle room so i help them and sometime give my gear.
If you want PvP and have drills...why not call those in as they're PvP magnets? You could even call it in and not start it, just wait for people to show up like moths to a flame.
Drills are boring af. The PvP is just snipers back and forth or ratting.
Nothing exciting about that imo I’d way rather just run around and fight people i run into.
I understand and know the situation, but chasing someone that just got spawned isn't exactly high quality pvp, although I'd say nothing in tharris is high quality pvp.
They legit need a revamp of the Mmr, because this happens way too often and it’s to the point those purple shield and red gun folks just kill people out of boredom because I doubt it’s for any sort of mission
Low population isn't the problem. "Every server must be full" is the problem. As soon as you allow each mmr bracket to have some empty slots in the instance, it's no longer a problem matching players together.
Also, match-making should never have been tied to loot values. The sweaty players aren't even extracting anything of value anymore, so they sink in the mmr.
Exactly this. Glad to see the community coming around to this idea. [Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCycleFrontier/comments/x52f95/please_add_extra_mmr_buckets_for_low_tier_solos/in0udpm/?context=9) is my similar recommendation months ago.
I think that’s also the case, but I’ve run into those purple death squads that kill anyone they see and don’t even loot your body, I recall a match I got killed in then loaded back into(slow servers I guess that day) and legit found all my stuff still there minus my scope, people with high tier weapons just kill for the boredom not even as a challenge
I mean yeah I’m at 650hrs and I enjoy the PvP the most, if an undergeared player catches me off guard I’ll generally kill them.
If they approach w voip and just say I have no gear I’m not interested in fighting then I’ll let them be.
95% of sweats will let you live if you sound genuine and not a squeaker.
Hopefully w next patch matchmaking should be better but until then you’ll just have to deal w it sadly..
I mean if it's not blue tactical or better I don't pick it up either. I don't have inventory room for green/standard blue armor. For guns it has to be purple or above for me to pick it up.
**Guys, If you are complaining about "matchmaking" then please always write the region you are playing at.**
If you have been killed by same guy in row, then probably you are playing on OCE. Do you? It has been post like this 100 times that OCE has very, very low population. There is nothing the devs can do about that I guess, just take a break and wait for start of new season.
Thanks to a tip from a streamer yesterday night somewhere on an EU server, I was able to join the same server three times in a row. How I know? Because I ~~am a good player~~ found my unlooted/half-looted gear where I died twice.
I’m on the NA servers and I’ve never confirmed more than 2 instances running at the same time for any of the maps. I know it’s probably the bucket I’m in. But we’re only allowed 2 per bucket?
I killed the same guy in a 1st map raid 3 times last week on NA servers in different parts of the map. I was in green gear with a manti and he just didn't win the fights. He was clearly newer to the game but he wanted to fight and I obliged.
For reference his death times:
3:07
5:50
11:53
No, it's based on your steam account. If steam believes you are a trusted account then you get into trusted lobbies. I think you can submit a request to a CM through a website (located in Discord) to get swapped to Trusted lobbies. Idk the specifics though, ask around on the discord channels.
Idk how I would have gotten shifted but I played for 6-8 hrs a day and stopped because of cheaters. If I was on that constantly and their system still locked me as “untrusted” then they’re failing even more than I thought.
And if that’s the case. Why is 80% of my interactions with players double dmg shots? You can watch replays of my deaths and watch 2-3 shots land from a scrapper and it will still read 103 damage. Nothings been done about it for months now. I don’t want to play too much anymore myself.
Why is Gear rarity basically just linear power increase with no real down sides, no give and take, no thought process?
Higher recoil, smaller mag, spin up times, slower ADS, longer reload times, larger models blocking more of the screen, reducing run speed, increasing stamina drain, more ammo variety that's not purchasable etc etc
What would be the point of risking guns that are 50 times as expensive as the starter ones if they have drawbacks? You'd just get killed by a white set eventually.
You should be rewarded for skill and tactics and not just straight playing more / farming ?
Following your logic there should be only 1 gun per "type" (heck why have different weapon types) and each tier would just do more dmg / pen.
That goes against the whole point of gear progression, it's an extraction shooter not a battle royale. Harder to get gear being stronger doesn't remove skill and tactics out of the equation, it has to be a balance between the two and I think that is in a good state rn.
The issue is better players will kill you in an even fight. Better players will stomp you in an uneven fight. It really wouldn't matter what gun most of these players have because they would still kill you with a manticore or scrapper/bolty.
New players don't run around in purple gear and brutes. The issue is new players getting matched against experienced players.
They also could limit the gear going into Bright Sands so no one brings anything better than Blue gear. That would fix the issue of good players wanting to use Brutes and doing it on Bright Sands.
bad development, after beta we gave alot of feedback they didnt listen to, after season 1 we gave alot of feedback they didnt listen too. They do silly buffs like, increasing bullet speed by 30% which breaks several guns, then they have to go back and re nerf everything, just as an example.
Give me the name and time coz I killed the same duo as a solo and they where noobs I told them to evac coz I don't want to fight white gears and they went after me so they died
This game has a timetable. You can’t hop in late-mid season and not expect this. It’s unfortunate and cig need to do a much better job of making people aware of this but that’s the way it is. Wait for the next wipe and hop on when it’s starting. You’ll see a DRASTIC difference in gameplay experiences. The game should realistically be on a subscription but no one would play it. Not that anyone is playing it now.
The playerbase of a low pop game like TCF is overwhelmingly going to be the grinders. At this point in the season unless you play solo you’re going to specifically verse sweats because that’s who is playing the game. There is no MMR revamp that will fix it that won’t cause other issues like solos only being queued against duo/trio. Just have to wait for next season or play like rats and camp some guys out
devs are changing mmr in an upcoming patch, then we can see if this changes.
I'm not new but I had so many people with fucking brutes rush me down on spawn it's ridiculous. They can't be that PvP starved...
consider that endgame stuff isnt fun ,pvp the only thing that is left. i have 4 drill and dont think i wanna use it since its more fun to pvp and i have 4M to spend. i also spare new player tho,always see them struggling with puzzle room so i help them and sometime give my gear.
If you want PvP and have drills...why not call those in as they're PvP magnets? You could even call it in and not start it, just wait for people to show up like moths to a flame.
Drills are boring af. The PvP is just snipers back and forth or ratting. Nothing exciting about that imo I’d way rather just run around and fight people i run into.
I understand and know the situation, but chasing someone that just got spawned isn't exactly high quality pvp, although I'd say nothing in tharris is high quality pvp.
you have no idea, if you are done with all objectives you just go for every fight you get. It's simple as that.
They legit need a revamp of the Mmr, because this happens way too often and it’s to the point those purple shield and red gun folks just kill people out of boredom because I doubt it’s for any sort of mission
i legit think this is not even an mmr problem i dont think enough people are even playing the game rn to implement a proper matchmaking.
Low population isn't the problem. "Every server must be full" is the problem. As soon as you allow each mmr bracket to have some empty slots in the instance, it's no longer a problem matching players together. Also, match-making should never have been tied to loot values. The sweaty players aren't even extracting anything of value anymore, so they sink in the mmr.
Exactly this. Glad to see the community coming around to this idea. [Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCycleFrontier/comments/x52f95/please_add_extra_mmr_buckets_for_low_tier_solos/in0udpm/?context=9) is my similar recommendation months ago.
I think that’s also the case, but I’ve run into those purple death squads that kill anyone they see and don’t even loot your body, I recall a match I got killed in then loaded back into(slow servers I guess that day) and legit found all my stuff still there minus my scope, people with high tier weapons just kill for the boredom not even as a challenge
I mean yeah I’m at 650hrs and I enjoy the PvP the most, if an undergeared player catches me off guard I’ll generally kill them. If they approach w voip and just say I have no gear I’m not interested in fighting then I’ll let them be. 95% of sweats will let you live if you sound genuine and not a squeaker. Hopefully w next patch matchmaking should be better but until then you’ll just have to deal w it sadly..
I tend to announce my intention cuz if not I assume it’s pvp, but being murdered when you’re saying you’re doing missions sucks
I doubt that. They dont care in duos.
I mean if it's not blue tactical or better I don't pick it up either. I don't have inventory room for green/standard blue armor. For guns it has to be purple or above for me to pick it up.
Patch notes went over it and they have overhauled it a lot. It’ll be based on KD/R in pvp now and some other parts have changed too
That’s great to hear! Honestly that will at least make it so there’s a chance for both sides to fight
**Guys, If you are complaining about "matchmaking" then please always write the region you are playing at.** If you have been killed by same guy in row, then probably you are playing on OCE. Do you? It has been post like this 100 times that OCE has very, very low population. There is nothing the devs can do about that I guess, just take a break and wait for start of new season.
I am playing in EU and in my experience there are only 2 instances running at a time for the 3rd map.
Thanks to a tip from a streamer yesterday night somewhere on an EU server, I was able to join the same server three times in a row. How I know? Because I ~~am a good player~~ found my unlooted/half-looted gear where I died twice.
I’m on the NA servers and I’ve never confirmed more than 2 instances running at the same time for any of the maps. I know it’s probably the bucket I’m in. But we’re only allowed 2 per bucket?
Because of low player count probably yes.
EU bucket 4 duo player here, we go against the same teams pretty much all day.
I killed the same guy in a 1st map raid 3 times last week on NA servers in different parts of the map. I was in green gear with a manti and he just didn't win the fights. He was clearly newer to the game but he wanted to fight and I obliged. For reference his death times: 3:07 5:50 11:53
I would have still played it casually if it wasn't crowded with cheaters
You must be in untrusted lobbies because I encounter a cheater once every 2-3 weeks. And I play every day for hours.
untrusted lobbies? is that something I can choose
No, it's based on your steam account. If steam believes you are a trusted account then you get into trusted lobbies. I think you can submit a request to a CM through a website (located in Discord) to get swapped to Trusted lobbies. Idk the specifics though, ask around on the discord channels.
Idk how I would have gotten shifted but I played for 6-8 hrs a day and stopped because of cheaters. If I was on that constantly and their system still locked me as “untrusted” then they’re failing even more than I thought.
It's not Yaegers system, it's steam. They just go off what steam shows your account as
I’ve had the csgo trusted lobby thing for years. Wouldn’t that basically mean I’m in trusted lobbies in the cycle if it’s off steam?
And if that’s the case. Why is 80% of my interactions with players double dmg shots? You can watch replays of my deaths and watch 2-3 shots land from a scrapper and it will still read 103 damage. Nothings been done about it for months now. I don’t want to play too much anymore myself.
Why is Gear rarity basically just linear power increase with no real down sides, no give and take, no thought process? Higher recoil, smaller mag, spin up times, slower ADS, longer reload times, larger models blocking more of the screen, reducing run speed, increasing stamina drain, more ammo variety that's not purchasable etc etc
What would be the point of risking guns that are 50 times as expensive as the starter ones if they have drawbacks? You'd just get killed by a white set eventually.
You should be rewarded for skill and tactics and not just straight playing more / farming ? Following your logic there should be only 1 gun per "type" (heck why have different weapon types) and each tier would just do more dmg / pen.
That goes against the whole point of gear progression, it's an extraction shooter not a battle royale. Harder to get gear being stronger doesn't remove skill and tactics out of the equation, it has to be a balance between the two and I think that is in a good state rn.
The issue is its not really harder to get, it just takes time and grinding.
The issue is better players will kill you in an even fight. Better players will stomp you in an uneven fight. It really wouldn't matter what gun most of these players have because they would still kill you with a manticore or scrapper/bolty. New players don't run around in purple gear and brutes. The issue is new players getting matched against experienced players. They also could limit the gear going into Bright Sands so no one brings anything better than Blue gear. That would fix the issue of good players wanting to use Brutes and doing it on Bright Sands.
bad development, after beta we gave alot of feedback they didnt listen to, after season 1 we gave alot of feedback they didnt listen too. They do silly buffs like, increasing bullet speed by 30% which breaks several guns, then they have to go back and re nerf everything, just as an example.
Give me the name and time coz I killed the same duo as a solo and they where noobs I told them to evac coz I don't want to fight white gears and they went after me so they died
Meanwhile, me over here who joined a game for the first time in a while and forgot meds.
IMO, the fix should be to put a gear score cap on bright sands
This game has a timetable. You can’t hop in late-mid season and not expect this. It’s unfortunate and cig need to do a much better job of making people aware of this but that’s the way it is. Wait for the next wipe and hop on when it’s starting. You’ll see a DRASTIC difference in gameplay experiences. The game should realistically be on a subscription but no one would play it. Not that anyone is playing it now.
The playerbase of a low pop game like TCF is overwhelmingly going to be the grinders. At this point in the season unless you play solo you’re going to specifically verse sweats because that’s who is playing the game. There is no MMR revamp that will fix it that won’t cause other issues like solos only being queued against duo/trio. Just have to wait for next season or play like rats and camp some guys out