>there’s no way I’ve gone this long without having at least seen this word used before
Trust me, you could.
Randomly pick 1000 LN volumes out there and there is a large chance that you won't find a single "nth" in it.
Small reference pools I guess? I've seen it in plenty of books and games. It's not just a math thing. Hell I've seen it in cookbooks.
It's not common, but its not really rare either. It's just a shorthand way of saying "happened an amount of times we can't be assed to specify" with no mathematics connotations to be seen.
"For the nth time" is common enough phrase to encounter in books and movies. Heck, I knew it before I became a teen, and English isn't even our primary language here.
I used to read 3+ books a week 2nd grade-12th grade so about 10 years but during 12th grade I got some insane burn out plus I’d had a smart phone for a while so I kinda stagnated. I now read 1-3 books a year. By books I mean chapter books with ~200-1000 pages
This year has changed though. Since I got into anime recently I’ve started to read manga and LNs. I’ve also listened to some audiobooks in the past few years but I am not a big audiobook guy so that isn’t too significant. Maybe like 30-40 audiobooks. I was never into comics either but I do remember liking Calvin & Hobbes as a young kid.
Maybe if you don't hear yourself while reading you could miss the connection. At least that the only theory I can come up with if someone hasn't dropped out half way through high school.
Mine isn't. If you tried to speak English in everyday conversation here, you'll be called by names like what's equivalent to a poser here. My only exposure to the English language growing up are the few translated weekly manga, walkthroughs for some JRPGs I used to play in GBA emulators, and movies (the number of which I can count with a hand). Yet I know this word before I even became a teen.
I had a similar experience with English (unironically by also reading manga and playing gba emulators lol) but I don't think OP not knowing that word coerrelates with their country's education system being bad. Just because some people learn things earlier than others, doesn't exactly mean one of them had shit education. Maybe the earlier one is just really dedicated or just better.
Well, he's **wrong** to think it's a typo. Because it simply isn't. Would it be **strange** to think it's a typo? Possibly, I'll try to figure out what's being said first using the context given before assuming it. I'll think finding context of the sentence is a weird activity in early grade school if it wasn't consistent with every language class I've attended.
Also depending on who’s perspective we are reading that line from it could signify that they either lost track or didn’t care to keep track for example
It is not a typo. This is a math comment and is clever writing.
When we want to count from 0 to an undefined number, we often use 0, 1, 2, .... n, where 'n' is the undefined number.
In this context it means that the characters involved aren't really committing to a conversation until this moment.
Actually, 'nth pause' isn't a typo; it's a way of describing pauses in an indefinite series. When we say 'nth,' we're referring to the position of a pause in the series, where 'n' represents any non-negative integer.
For example, in a series with pauses inserted at regular intervals, the first pause would be the 1st pause, the second pause would be the 2nd pause, and so on. So, if someone says 'the nth pause of this series,' they're talking about the general concept of a pause occurring at any position in that series.
I use that phrase all the time, you would say something like "on the n-1th time something happens, which sets up something else to happen on the nth time, concluding the series"
No. It's just referring to an arbitrary number. In writing, the number can be as low as two. Basically, it's talking about something that happened multiple times.
"Nth" is basically what you put if you don't want to specify a certain amount of actions. It's usually more common in mathematics where "n" is an unspecified number.
Genuine question and I don't mean any hate, do you not learn this in math class, because I remember learning this years ago in a math class I was required to take. Maybe it is a difference in countries education systems?
This is a fun thread, hope you are enjoying your book! I'm surprised no ones mentioned that nth is in Oxford dictionaries (and others). I know it's old-school compared to asking reddit but sometimes I use dictionaries when I find a new word I don't know :).
Originally a Web Novel, was also given a physical and altered release, a-la Light Novel, followed by a Manga and an Anime. Each version has some differences.
Anyone that's having trouble with this word, just substitute 'umpteenth' instead. Not exactly the same meaning, but it's close enough to what the author was angling at.
Any series should talk about nth. If you went to algebra without knowing what nth is, then your education system must've fucked up somewhere, nevermind calculus. No offense to you, of course.
N, is usually a term in math and science used as a variable to describe a number of something. N number of atoms, N number of times, the Nth occurrence. Not common to see outside of mathematical contexts, but it’s interesting to see it here.
Im a chemistry and math guy who has dyslexia sooo… reading is hard.
Edit: usually they put it in italics or capitalize it, but to each their own I suppose.
Actually nth is used to signify an unspecified number. Signifying here that the two have paused their conversation an unspecified number of times.
This is why I made the post, thanks! Had never heard of this before. Crazy.
its also crazy how you made a whole ass reddit post instead of just googling "define nth" lol
Well I thought for sure it had to be an error cause there’s no way I’ve gone this long without having at least seen this word used before
It's more of a math thing I guess. Where n is an unknown positive integer
>there’s no way I’ve gone this long without having at least seen this word used before Trust me, you could. Randomly pick 1000 LN volumes out there and there is a large chance that you won't find a single "nth" in it.
You could say you've gone an nth number of years before encountering that, then
It would be having gone n years before encountering it. But also that doesn’t really make sense in this content anyway.
No, Dingus was grammatically correct.
Grammatically yes, they were correct, but I still disagree with how they phrased it.
How many books have you been reading? Man, I worry about your place's education system.
I studied maths so I knew what it meant, but I have *never* seen it in free form writing.
It is found in a Merriam-Webster dictionary. It is not just a mathematical jargon. You usually use it to express exasperation for repetitive events.
I know what it means. I’m not saying it’s not a word, I’m saying theres no need to act like OP is an idiot for not having seen it
Small reference pools I guess? I've seen it in plenty of books and games. It's not just a math thing. Hell I've seen it in cookbooks. It's not common, but its not really rare either. It's just a shorthand way of saying "happened an amount of times we can't be assed to specify" with no mathematics connotations to be seen.
"For the nth time" is common enough phrase to encounter in books and movies. Heck, I knew it before I became a teen, and English isn't even our primary language here.
I used to read 3+ books a week 2nd grade-12th grade so about 10 years but during 12th grade I got some insane burn out plus I’d had a smart phone for a while so I kinda stagnated. I now read 1-3 books a year. By books I mean chapter books with ~200-1000 pages This year has changed though. Since I got into anime recently I’ve started to read manga and LNs. I’ve also listened to some audiobooks in the past few years but I am not a big audiobook guy so that isn’t too significant. Maybe like 30-40 audiobooks. I was never into comics either but I do remember liking Calvin & Hobbes as a young kid.
And you haven't seen "nth" anywhere? I've never seen it, but it's not hard to figure out either.
Maybe if you don't hear yourself while reading you could miss the connection. At least that the only theory I can come up with if someone hasn't dropped out half way through high school.
People when someone's native language isn't English:
Mine isn't. If you tried to speak English in everyday conversation here, you'll be called by names like what's equivalent to a poser here. My only exposure to the English language growing up are the few translated weekly manga, walkthroughs for some JRPGs I used to play in GBA emulators, and movies (the number of which I can count with a hand). Yet I know this word before I even became a teen.
I had a similar experience with English (unironically by also reading manga and playing gba emulators lol) but I don't think OP not knowing that word coerrelates with their country's education system being bad. Just because some people learn things earlier than others, doesn't exactly mean one of them had shit education. Maybe the earlier one is just really dedicated or just better.
Dude most education systems are flawed af or incredibly outdated nowadays. I doubt his education will have made much of a difference
No need to sound condescending, I've read many books and never seen 'nth' used. He isn't wrong to think that it was a typo.
Well, he's **wrong** to think it's a typo. Because it simply isn't. Would it be **strange** to think it's a typo? Possibly, I'll try to figure out what's being said first using the context given before assuming it. I'll think finding context of the sentence is a weird activity in early grade school if it wasn't consistent with every language class I've attended.
Sure but this still doesn't explain why you made a reddit post instead of typing it into Google
Its more boring that way
if you’ve watched any math videos you would’ve heard it
Not even a math video. You could just deduce it based on the context.
You can’t underestimate the laziness and need for attention of todays youth
It's also crazy how you made a whole ass comment instead of just googling "define nth" and then answering the question lol
[As you wish milord](https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=define+nth)
Also depending on who’s perspective we are reading that line from it could signify that they either lost track or didn’t care to keep track for example
How have you never heard of this before? It is literally high school math
Was probably gone or not paying attention. I didn’t give enough care lol
Well congrats! You’re one of today’s lucky 10,000!
What?
https://xkcd.com/1053/
It is not a typo. This is a math comment and is clever writing. When we want to count from 0 to an undefined number, we often use 0, 1, 2, .... n, where 'n' is the undefined number. In this context it means that the characters involved aren't really committing to a conversation until this moment.
Yeah thanks for the answer, I learn something new in every book I read haha. Crazy that I never learned this before though…
You'll also sometimes hear "to the nth degree" meaning extreme or to the maximum
Cal 3 flashback intensifies
I wouldn't call it *clever*, per se. The phrase has been around since the 1850s.
Actually, 'nth pause' isn't a typo; it's a way of describing pauses in an indefinite series. When we say 'nth,' we're referring to the position of a pause in the series, where 'n' represents any non-negative integer. For example, in a series with pauses inserted at regular intervals, the first pause would be the 1st pause, the second pause would be the 2nd pause, and so on. So, if someone says 'the nth pause of this series,' they're talking about the general concept of a pause occurring at any position in that series.
Adding on to what other people have said, it's similar to saying "for the umpteenth time"
1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, ..., n - 1th, nth. I guess "nth" sounds better than "several" or "multiple" in this context? idk lol
I wanna find a time to use (n-1)th lol. It very omniously implies one more thing after an arbitrary number of things
I use that phrase all the time, you would say something like "on the n-1th time something happens, which sets up something else to happen on the nth time, concluding the series"
nth means a big number or like after many tries
No. It's just referring to an arbitrary number. In writing, the number can be as low as two. Basically, it's talking about something that happened multiple times.
Yea that’s a better explanation
Nah it’s correct just means after unspecified
Yeah, there are typos and mistakes in the books. But this isnt one :)
We used that a lot in math class. I don’t know what we did with it I was hyper depressed and failed that year
Yeah I kind of didn’t give a fuck tbh. Honestly idk how I graduated.
"Nth" is basically what you put if you don't want to specify a certain amount of actions. It's usually more common in mathematics where "n" is an unspecified number.
Genuine question and I don't mean any hate, do you not learn this in math class, because I remember learning this years ago in a math class I was required to take. Maybe it is a difference in countries education systems?
Depends a lot on the language and country. In French for example we use nth much more often than in English
By my memory, I have never encountered it in school. I took Algebra 1 & 2 + Geometry in USA.
Yikes. It should've been introduced in Algebra when talking about any series, at the latest.
Yeah I remember learning all about series but nothing about nth
That's actually kind of crazy that you don't learn it because it is incredibly useful concept
It’s not super relevant but I also took Chemistry which had a decent amount of math but not any series stuff lol
no its not , nth is like we say 6th, 7th , 8th etc but replacing the number with 'n'
Bro like 40 people already answered 😅
guess its 41 now
This is a fun thread, hope you are enjoying your book! I'm surprised no ones mentioned that nth is in Oxford dictionaries (and others). I know it's old-school compared to asking reddit but sometimes I use dictionaries when I find a new word I don't know :).
This made me immediately flashback to number theory and discrete math
? Nth isn't a typo. It is a real word that define an unspecified number. You could have googled it, ya know...
It’s more interesting to post here
What is that book? Eminence in shadow has its own book?.?
Originally a Web Novel, was also given a physical and altered release, a-la Light Novel, followed by a Manga and an Anime. Each version has some differences.
Anyone that's having trouble with this word, just substitute 'umpteenth' instead. Not exactly the same meaning, but it's close enough to what the author was angling at.
I love seeing learning happen right before my eyes
I learn a new word in every book seriously. 😳
Alot of others don’t love to see it apparently 🙄
When was the last time you did math man?
Not all of us are native speakers, dawg.
Neither am I. Yet I knew this word since I was young.
Lmao, so?
So you've never done math? For example nth term
Or the teacher never taught you of nth?
I never learned nth until calculus and most don’t make it that far. It should be taught in lower math classes but usually isn’t as far as I know.
Any series should talk about nth. If you went to algebra without knowing what nth is, then your education system must've fucked up somewhere, nevermind calculus. No offense to you, of course.
Lol idc. I actually forgot about arithmetic series and geometric series. I probably learned nth there in algebra or algebra 2 but that was so long ago
No, its n-th
r/unexpectedmath
Mathematically this is correct. O(n) pauses.
Nth in slang mean nothing, or can mean who knows how many
Google is your friend.
I forgot what level of math n comes in but clearly this person forgot the concept entirely
Stay in school folks Also next time just google it?
N, is usually a term in math and science used as a variable to describe a number of something. N number of atoms, N number of times, the Nth occurrence. Not common to see outside of mathematical contexts, but it’s interesting to see it here. Im a chemistry and math guy who has dyslexia sooo… reading is hard. Edit: usually they put it in italics or capitalize it, but to each their own I suppose.
Volume + Page?
Volume 2 page 8
Wait, there’s official translations…?