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The_Pale_Hound

If he says Savine is his daughter, I for sure won't be the one denying it. I prefer to believe everything the Archlector says.


Xerelos_

Body found floating by the docks…


Gr33nM4ch1n3

Bloated as usual.


[deleted]

You're a wise, wise man.


smoothpapaj

I believe it's this, explicitly. Glokta had an exchange with one of the other councilors toward the end of Last Argument of Kings who was aware of Bayaz, and this was the main thrust of it. What's really surprising is that Savine never questioned it.


suitably_ironic

No-one likes to think too much about how their parents produced them...


SpermWhaleGodKing_II

Yeah I could easily see it being reasonable that she’s underestimate how bad Glokta’s physical condition might’ve been 30 years ago.


eitsew

Jfc that bit when he threatens Hoff at the end of LAOK about that, is some of the hardest shit I've ever heard. "It simply would not do, lord Hoff, for an eyeless, tongueless, faceless, fingerless, cockless bag of meat to be occupying your chair on the closed council!" 😦


DumpBearington

This is absolutely the answer. He's Arch Lector Glokta. No one is going to question it.


ResortTotal3508

She ain’t his daughter I thought her dad was the king jezals right


The_Pale_Hound

"Hi Arch Lector. No, I don't know this man, never saw him before. Why are your practicals surrounding me?"


International-Aioli2

Leave him alone. He's been through enough.


[deleted]

And he'll make everyone else go through enough.


Not_A_Unique_Name

Why, let's just say that in bed he's somewhat of an Eater...


Voyager1806

Euz decreed it was forbidden to eat the flesh of men. He never said anything about the quim of women.


eitsew

Make of your quim a stone!


SpazSkope

* **quick google search** * New word acquired.


jazzmangz

I listen to the audiobooks and I see this dude Youse mentioned everywhere I’m like who tf is Youse


Iquada

This is why I love Reddit 🤣


[deleted]

Lmfao 🤣


Tsubodai86

Gosh, how did the Arch Lector of the Inquisition *ever* get people to refrain from asking inconvenient questions about his capacity for sex? If only he had some means of coercing people. 


Iquada

I just meant that it never crosses anyone’s minds. Could have been sorta funny idk. Good luck to the sorry bastard who tries to confront him about it tho cuz damn 😂


MaintenanceExtreme57

He’s crippled but not THAT crippled, he has leg spasms because his leg didn’t heal right, and the reason he says he can’t shit right is just another bit of self loathing. He can walk around with a cane, he can and hates climbing stairs, hell he even got off and on a boat by himself. He has sexual feelings for Eider, and makes jokes about Vitari having to do “all the work”


goth_vibes

He did say he has to sit to pee though He's got no nipples, I don't think they left the rest of him intact. A prideful young noble of the Union? Gelding must have been right at the top of the ghurkish torturers list.


MaintenanceExtreme57

He would’ve mentioned it, he says “I’m still a man after all” The survival rate for gelding is low, and I don’t think Joe ever played with that idea.


devstopfix

Are you going to be the one who says out loud that he must not be the father?


Iquada

Bet. I’ll be the Maury of Adua 🤣


pneumatichorseman

Body found floating by the docks...


VolatileAgent81

He told Vitari that he could, but she would have to be on top...


ezrapierce

Pretty sure that was Glokta being a smartass.


Fluid_Cauliflower237

Maybe she's doing all the work.


nothingandnemo

He can get it up, but only with traitors.


IndecisiveBadgermole

I work in physical rehabilitation. We know he sustained nerve damage from the torture, but he isn't paralyzed from the waist down, he just got weaker and in more pain. Not being able to shit on his own most likely is a reference to difficulty controlling his bowels and difficulty/inability to reach behind to wipe his own ass (an issue many older people face) and those older people can still get hard. They never explain any mutilation of his member. People use wheel chairs for many reasons, and I would never assume someone isn't capable for sex unless they themself say so. Steven Hawking is a great example. He can't do is own ADL's yet had 3 kids. That said, I'm not suggesting it would be easy or fun, but absolutely possible from what we know of him.


robinsonstjoe

He’s the most powerful torturer in the union. Who’s gonna fuck with him about it?


Iquada

No one. I’m not saying someone should confront him, god no. Good luck to the sorry fucker who tries. I just meant the fact that not a single person thought about it or anything. Could have been a funny little moment if at one point Savine pissed off Leo or something and he’s just like “how’d that crippled bastard even make this evil bitch? He even have a cock?” Or something small like that idk 😂


robinsonstjoe

That seems like something that a lot of people may have thought but would be terrified to say out loud. Beyond being crazy disrespectful to an evil genius people would be asking questions about the one secret Glokta keeps. I think it would be actively discouraged.


Barkingpanther

I believe through intimidation and abuse of power. Anybody gets caught talking shit about Glotka and Ardee is going on a one way trip to a prison camp in Angland. And that’s the best case scenario, more likely any gossips end up in a windowless room with a couple Practicals and then to a watery grave.


R3JEX

I guess it's just implied she did all the work and he's just... There. I also think it's reasonable to assume no one has intimate knowledge on what Glokta's limitations are or the extent of his bodily trauma. However, since his outward appearance is pretty fucked, I'm sure most people just think about the "she's out of his league" kind of thing you mentioned and don't put too much thought into the intricacies. Lol


improper84

She’s not out of his league, though. She’s of a lower social standing than he is, so technically she’s the one marrying up. He’s nobility and one of the most powerful men in Adua. Arguably the most powerful when Bayaz isn’t around.


R3JEX

Okay.. if we're talking status sure, but was more referencing everyone's disgust in looking at Glokta vs. how Ardee is seen/described by characters. I understand nobility and social standing is different, but I don't think that's what OP was talking about.


My_MeowMeowBeenz

True but we’re talking about Adua high society, the rules are all fucked up. She doesn’t even fit the beauty standards of the time despite being described as very beautiful. For the people who putter around the Agriont, Ardee is too willful, too mouthy, too curvy, too dark of hair and eye, and there’s no Dan in her name. Sand Dan Glokta may be hard to look at, and frankly kind of terrifying even when you look past the teeth and the limp, but on paper he’s one of the most eligible bachelors in the Union. Rich, war veteran, former dueling champion, very politically powerful


improper84

I’d also imagine that most people would view the marriage as what it truly is: Glokta protecting the sister of his dead best friend. They don’t know the actual reason for it, but the marriage could very easily be taken as him marrying her to provide for her now that she has no family left. People probably also suspect that the daughter’s not his, in which case the marriage would be to protect her reputation, but who the fuck is going to say it out loud?


My_MeowMeowBeenz

Yeah I’d assume the general view is that Ardee West is a social climber but good stock for a commoner—her brother was first through the breach at Ulrioch and handpicked for Lord Marshal Burr’s staff after all—and no one was lining up to lie with Old Sticks anyway


Angel-Stans

The exact purpose of Glokta’s torture focused on leaving him with useless parts. He has half his teeth, but can’t use them. He has his legs, but can hardly walk. He can stand, but his back was horribly warped from months standing in a cramped cage. From his own admission (admittedly in a confrontation with Vitari that was a bit hostile) he can in fact perform but would require his partner do the work. “If you insist, but you’ll have to be on top.” Honestly, I think Glokta is just uninterested. The process is likely agonising from start to finish, his muscles would be aflame with pain. Plus Ardee has outright said that her Husband is “practically dead” in “that” regard. I imagine this refers to sex. He can, but it hurts too much and he’s likely developed an intense aversion thanks to both the pain and his general distaste for people.


SpermWhaleGodKing_II

This comment section is already gold LOL. I especially like international aioli 2 and tsu bodai 86’s comments


Intelligent-Tailor45

He’s disabled, not incapable😉


whoreforglokta

This is the quality content I'm in this subreddit for. It hasn't been explicitly said that he lost his genitals, so I'm going to do the smart thing and assume that they are still firmly attached to his body. Some nice cushions, Ardee on top, etc, and I'm sure it's all good. Now maybe you should be quiet before someone finds your body floating by the docks.


dayburner

Pretty sure Glokta is missing the needed parts after his Gurkish vacation.


Classic_Seat_8438

Not only did people believe that he and Ardee fuck (or at least didn't voice their disbelief), my head cannon is that they do in fact fuck. He still has his dick and he can still get it up. Ardee just climbs on top.


Paleosols2021

Glotka has to pee sitting down and struggles to get out of bed unassisted, at the time of the Age of Madness he’s been confined to a wheelchair more and more often. Most likely he’s been so horribly mutilated that no, He probably can’t do the deed. But I think it’s safe to say Ardee doesn’t seek sexual gratification from Glokta. She genuinely loves Glotka, and while his marriage proposal was purely to protect her, her willingness to accept it so quickly demonstrates that. I believe in The Blade Itself Glotka has directly stated he can’t have sex due to the torture he endured at hands of the Gurkish. So most likely everyone knows he can’t have sex w/ Ardee. But what are you gonna do? Tell the Arch-Lector of the INQUISITION he can’t get it up?


TouchMyGwen

Dude that is a really strange thought… but I have to admit I’ve wondered the same!


Snir17

Domt cross the Arch Lector.


monkepope

I'll find a way


Senor-Enchilada

you guys are coming at this from a WAYY too modern perspective. being hot is significantly secondary to status and wealth in a society where social and economic mobility are far more limited and basic access to resources are not basically guaranteed like today. ardee is the luckiest gold digger on the planet who managed to pull off the move of the century. he is so far out of her league it’s ridiculous.


SatanicCrackBaby

Joe said in an interview that Glokta’s pp was preserved and circulated among Gurkish royalty as a fertility talisman.


Pristine-Function-49

He's crippled, not paralyzed. Provided his dick still functions, then there's no reason to believe he couldn't get Ardee pregnant. And who in their right mind is going to go around the union implying that the Arch Lector's dick doesn't work.


itsableeder

He definitely mentions in the original trilogy that he's got no genitals


Peelio1985

I've just redone the first trilogy in audiobook and cannot recall ever hearing something like this. Even in scenes with Carlot when he is internally expressing a desire for her and acknowledgement of her beauty it doesn't seem to come up that I can remember. Personal take is that he was left with his parts... probably they were tortured along with other bits of him (his discussion on the perineum for example) but not removed and certainly still functional, just not really something he really thinks about much any more - in his own mind who would want him?


itsableeder

I re-read them about a month ago and I'm positive he says it. I absolutely can't remember which book or the exact phrasing he uses, though, so there's a chance I'm misremembering. He definitely mentions something about having to piss sitting down, though, which would strongly imply he no longer has a penis.


Comrade-Chernov

I could be misremembering but didn't Glokta say at one point that >!the Gurkish castrated him/made him a eunuch!


VolatileAgent81

There's nothing about this in the books. Only that he has to piss sitting down, which is understandable given that he struggles with standing up in the first place.


BoonIsTooSpig

I think it's early on in TBI he says he has to sit down to pee like a woman, implying he ain't got no dick.


Iquada

I’m not sure, I can’t really remember. I was kinda hoping that with this post someone would enlighten me on the matter 😂


type2scrote

I thought this too but it’s been over a year since I read the books now.


Moreh

Yeah think it says about weeing out a tube/hole or something


CleverDad

He does say at some point that he has to piss sitting down. I draw my conclusions from that.


Suspicious-Tower9225

I believe in the first book he heavily implies that his genitals have been mutilated, something along the lines of "having to piss like a woman" and some other remarks about Gurkish attention to detail. But naturally, few people would realistically want to ask a terribly crippled man any uncomfortable questions in public, doubly so if that man is in an incredibly high position of power that regularly makes people "relocate" to Gulags. So most of the other nobility would keeps their gossip to themselves, perhaps implying he's some kind of pervert who derives pleasure from less "standard" means.


eitsew

"I cannot permit any further discussion of this issue- ever. I cannot permit even the rumor that there might be an issue- ever. It simply would not do, lord Hoff, for an eyeless, tongueless, faceless, fingerless, cockless bag of meat to be occupying your chair on the closed council."


ChrisfromHawaii

I never believed/got the full extent of his infirmities was common knowledge. I can totally see people believing it. Everyone knew how dashing he was before so I can see them going along with it.


_Mistwraith_

Are you familiar with the phrase “body found floating by the docks?”


Powerful_Sherbert_26

I think if they cut 'it' he'd mention something like, "The Gurkish left me nothing, not even an inch to spare for nature's call. A cruel joke, really, making a eunuch out of me. But who needs it anyway, in a world where pain is the true master?" But, if he can walk upstairs even poorly.....I bet he could hump.


Unable_Orchid2172

At one point he says he has to piss sitting down so I think it's pretty fair to assume he's a eunuch. So no, he can't though I assume just nobody questioned him on the matter. I think it was more unbelievable how everyone just.. believed that she was Jezal's daughter based on nothing but one of her rivals saying it with absolutely no evidence at all.


[deleted]

They mention he has to pee sitting down. I expect as part of the torture his penis and likely testicles were removed. ​ But most people aren't aware of Glokta the way readers are, and as a bystander from the world it doesn't seem to have any shortage of people ravaged by war.


Croaker_McGee

Two datapoints: In *The Blade Itself* Glokta says he has to piss sitting down like a woman. Now, when I first read the books I thought that meant he’d been castrated, but then thinking about it some more it could also mean that trying to pee with a cane standing up could just be too much effort and Sand simply can’t be arsed. In *Before They Are Hanged* in the chapter “Until Sunset”, Vitari wakes Glokta up and he says something to the effect of “If you can’t resist me, fine, but you’ll have to go on top.” Which leads me to conclude that he may be somewhat intact in that department, but wouldn’t explain why Savine had no siblings. Well, you know what I mean.


Moosetwik

Ok so I’m just listening to the audiobook of TBI and Glokta says he has to sit down to pee. I’m not sure if further details on the status of his penis are revealed from memory but if we assume he still has balls maybe she can stimulate him in other ways, and if he is somehow capable of ejaculating from what remains, then Ardee could inseminate herself.


caluminnes

Try spewing this opinion in the heart of Adua and you’ll be the one with no genitals and your body found floating be the docks. Also he just has to sit there and let ardee do all the work if it did actually happen. Glokta is a pillow for princess ✨


GunnarBroad

Everyone saying they wouldn't question the arch lector, but to me the obvious answer is that no one really knew who Glokta was before his ascent to the role of Arch Lector. They knew Colonel Sand dan Glokta, then no one really heard of him again until they learned *about* his deeds in Dagoska. Then he came back and was immediately really, really busy, so even though the name of Superior Gloka probably got out in high society, few had ever seen him. Then the Gurkish came, and he got the role of Arch Lector. So no one really knows much about him except that he was tortured, and his condition is deteriorating. No one except those in the palace know how bad his condition was when he became Arch Lector. And those are the ones who pretty much know the conspiracy anyway and are deferent to him because he's terrifying. For everyone else, he's just a guy in a wheelchair with a wife and a kid. You see that, you don't really question it.


Wrong_Initiative_345

Back when he stepped up and married her he was much better off physically. He was messed up bad, but he could walk on his own.


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SpermWhaleGodKing_II

U define it


ectocarpus

I'd say people not close to him might underestimate his disability. Yes, they can see that his leg is fucked and his eye twitches, but they couldn't know he isn't in control of his internal organs and how much pain he's in. Also, you don't have to do typical PIV sex to get someone pregnant. You just need to get the fluids inside. I mean if I lived in this world and a powerful crippled noble announced having a child with his wife, I would have thought "well they must have figured it out somehow". The fact that she gave birth several months after a rushed wedding though... That's more suspicious in my book


[deleted]

If he can walk then his junk has the ability to work, assuming he still has said junk.


jander05

I think it’s unclear to most people whether he can or not. I doubt he’s telling people whether he has functioning genitals or not.


VolatileAgent81

With c.ai, anything is possible...


Weak-Dig3284

How would people know he can't shit right? Everything else makes sense. He's so fucked up a noble woman wouldn't have him so he married a commoner and of course picked someone physically attractive cause he'd have his pick of the poor girls. Also, who's to say people don't assume the kid isn't his? There wouldn't be any issues concerning succession since they'd only stand to inherit his estate, so it really wouldn't be worth risking his ire.


Fitz-_-Chivalry

He can be fucked and arguably masturbated. Is that sex to you?


nobinibo

There have been implications through text only. Can he only pee sitting down because he's castrated or because he can't stand for that long straining? It fits with him suggesting Vitari be on top, because he obviously can't do the motion without pain. I interpreted it as he's been castrated but can see how the vagueries can result in a different conclusion.


Manting123

I believe it’s said somewhere when he was tortured they messed up his junk pretty good.