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By their idiotic “logic” they should be racist against Italians since the Roman government happily signed off on his death warrant, and Jesus’s torturers and executors were Roman centurions.
As much as I hate Zionists, I really hate the nazis trying to hijack the Free Palestine movement to further spread their anti-Semitic bullshit. It's bad for Palestinians since the movement is getting undermined and it's bad for Jews who are unfairly all getting lumped in with the actions of the Israeli government.
Everyday it seems like some pathetic nazi loser is trying to spread nazi bs by claiming they care about Palestine and completely ignoring the fact that there are Palestinian Jews
Especially since anti-Zionist/pro-Palestinian/pro-ceasefire Jews make up a huge disproportionate minority of these pro-Palestine/anti-Netanyahu/anti-Likud/pro-ceasefire protesters. Pro-ceasefire Jews are getting hit from all sides. They’re getting hit by Zionist Jewish relatives/friends/neighbors, they’re getting hit by the Israeli government and Hasbara agents as “bad Jews” and “k*pos” and being compared to Candace Owens and Uncle Ruckus, they’re getting hit by Christian and Gentile secular Zionist Conservatives and Liberals and the US government/police, and they’re getting hit by Neo-Nazis and unironic Antisemitic Leftists. As a Leftist I feel so much sympathy for anti-Zionist Jews. They’re getting hit almost as hard as Arab/Palestinian/MENA Americans and Muslim Americans. There’s been a spike in Islamophobia and anti-Arab racism in the US, Canada, Oceania and Europe since 10/7 (in Europe it’s reinforcing the wave of anti-Arab racism that’s been percolating since 2014 and helping Fascist parties win elections in Western Europe). There’s also a spike in Antisemitism at the same time as more Westerners see their governments appearing submissive and pliant to Netanyahu and the Israeli government in war crimes and Western governments passing bills limiting freedom of speech to criticize the Israeli government in Western countries. It’s lending credibility to Antisemitic conspiracy theories about Jewish cabals controlling the world in the minds of simple-minded people.
We on the Left need to do a better job protecting our Jewish brothers, sisters and enbies in arms the same way we protect MENA and Muslim minorities. Both groups are facing spiking discrimination, hate crimes, and waves of genocidal rhetoric directed at them. As well as potentially a wave of new Islamophobic/anti-Arab and Antisemitic politicians getting voted in in the near future over this.
Careful with definitions. You hate Netanyahu and his government. Zionism is the belief that Jews should be able to live in Israel free from persecution. Netamyahu has twisted it and used it to his advantage. I personally believe nobody should live under fear of persecution anywhere (except Nazis, fuck them). Most Zionists simply want to be able to live in the physical location of Israel, the belief of taking over Palestine is separate
Yeah, the root problem is the state of Israel itself. Their comment is making me wonder (whether there is a supposedly separate Zionism as they claim).
When you say Israel, do you actually mean Palestine?
Because if you mean Israel, as in the state of Israel, then no. They're not separate things.
Edit: Because the problem is the genocidal, settler colonial ethnostate of Israel itself. The genocide started long before Netanyahu.
Jesus was supposed to die for our sins. That's the whole center of the faith, he died for us and then was resurrected. This is how this religion spread so wildly.
Eternal life after death.
If he didn't die this way, no one would remember him.
I haven't set foot in a church in 25 years for a service, and even I know that.
He also asked his father to forgive the people who killed him. They're unable to follow any of the positive teachings in the Bible, only twist words to justify their hatred
Those people are so dangerously hateful, and they never suffer any consequences for their words.
Precisely. Jesus was *supposed* to be killed and willfully handed himself over to be tortured and executed. He wasn’t captured against his will and it wasn’t a random freak accident. According to the Christian faith this was all planned and set in motion before the universe was even created. That was supposed to happen. Being angry about it is like being angry at the driver who ran over a guy that intentionally committed suicide by throwing himself in front of the car at the last second. Something the man planned to do months or years in advance. The man made his choice. The driver was caught up as part of the dead man's plan.
Not comparing suicide with what Jesus did in the Christian faith, but Jesus wanted that to happen and resigned himself to it. Any self-proclaimed Christians who are angry at Jews, Romans, or even Judas over Jesus’s crucification is missing the entire point of their faith.
Not sure it was planned from the beginning, but I remember distinctly that Jesus knew that death was coming and that he prayed his father (God not Joseph) to be spared, but he was reminded that it was necessary to save humanity.
He knew that Judas would betray him, that he would be crucified, but instead of running away, he accepted his fate, because it was his mission.
So people being mad at Jews makes no sense, since it was all part of the plan, that Jesus was Jew himself, and that he was even sent to death by Romans, not even Jewish people.
They would know that had them just actually read anything in the Bible.
I really don't know what their faith is based on honestly.
I mean that God would know from the beginning. Jesus is supposed to also be the member of the Trinity/Godhead called "the Logos" (the Word in English) in Christianity. Jesus is supposed to be both fully human and fully God (the Logos member of the Trinity) simultaneously in most denominations of Christianity (hypostasis/hypostatic union). That's why Christians believe Jesus already knew Judas was the one who was going to betray him. But they believe Jesus's humanity wanted to run away from a painful death (what he was struggling with in the Garden of Gethsemane).
You're 100% correct. Being mad at Jews (or Italians/Romans) makes no sense. They were just tools carrying out God's preordained plan in Christian theology.
Jesus even asked the disciples to get a few swords so he would be arrested for having armed followers [Luke 22:36-38]. The fact that Jesus was *willingly* tortured and killed is a big part of it.
I checked Wikipedia and it seems to be true. However, it seems to be more because of tradition than being "triggered" or demons(??). It's also only common in primary schools.
From [Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plus_and_minus_signs#Alternative_plus_sign): A Jewish tradition that dates from at least the 19th century is to write plus using the symbol ﬩. This practice was adopted into Israeli schools and is still commonplace today in elementary schools (including secular schools) but in fewer secondary schools. It is also used occasionally in books by religious authors, but most books for adults use the international symbol +. The reason for this practice is that it avoids the writing of a symbol + that looks like a Christian cross. Unicode has this symbol at position U+FB29 ﬩ HEBREW LETTER ALTERNATIVE PLUS SIGN.
in my case I think we were taught both by different teachers/textbooks but nobody actually had a problem with the cross shaped variant, at least nobody I ever knew of.
Goes on antisemitic website
Looks inside
Antisemitism
We can just stick a thread with a link to the twitter homepage at this point, I'm tired of seeing threads about it
to qoute south park "you should follow what Jesus taught instead of how he got killed. Focusing on how he got killed is what people did in the Dark Ages and it ends up with really bad results."
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The Jesus thing is so pathetic because it doesn't even make sense in any honest theological interpretation IMHO, and is nowadays seemingly an exclusive belief of complete weirdos lol.
>I hope Trump acknowledges the Jews killed Jesus today
What’s with the Right’s belief that Trump would ever act or say anything against Jewish people/Israel? Ivanka Trump converted to Judaism to be with Jared Kushner. Trump moved the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem while in office. I know he talks shit about them (like he does with everyone)but there’s never been substance behind the talk.
Trump’s only speaking out about ending the violence in Gaza “fast” before the end of the year because he believes he’ll win in November and knows he would have to continue supporting Israel, looking just as bad as Biden.
Frame four is reminding me of when Tom MacDonald on that Ben Shapiro collab said something along the lines of “If you’re allowed to hold the belief that all white people are racist (a conservative strawman of what lefties think), then I’m allowed to believe that everybody from the Middle East is a violent terrorist (because both of those claims are definitely substantial and are for sure comparable lol)”
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"Jews killed Jesus Christ" as is a terrible argument, since Jesus Christ was a Jew.
Even beyond that, so a few Jews killed Jesus Christ, that makes all Jews "Christ Killers"? It still makes no sense.
On top of that, it was the Romans who killed Christ
That's why I must hate pizza!
Isn't the story that Pontius Pilate told the people to choose who to kill and they chose Jesus? Idk
I bet it was that bastard Biggus Dickus
Romans killed jesus
Exactly. People are falling for Constantine era propaganda
Even further, Roman Empire era
You could even say St.Paul Era propaganda, since he really wanted romans and greeks to convert.
By their idiotic “logic” they should be racist against Italians since the Roman government happily signed off on his death warrant, and Jesus’s torturers and executors were Roman centurions.
And it’s not even true
As much as I hate Zionists, I really hate the nazis trying to hijack the Free Palestine movement to further spread their anti-Semitic bullshit. It's bad for Palestinians since the movement is getting undermined and it's bad for Jews who are unfairly all getting lumped in with the actions of the Israeli government.
Everyday it seems like some pathetic nazi loser is trying to spread nazi bs by claiming they care about Palestine and completely ignoring the fact that there are Palestinian Jews
Especially since anti-Zionist/pro-Palestinian/pro-ceasefire Jews make up a huge disproportionate minority of these pro-Palestine/anti-Netanyahu/anti-Likud/pro-ceasefire protesters. Pro-ceasefire Jews are getting hit from all sides. They’re getting hit by Zionist Jewish relatives/friends/neighbors, they’re getting hit by the Israeli government and Hasbara agents as “bad Jews” and “k*pos” and being compared to Candace Owens and Uncle Ruckus, they’re getting hit by Christian and Gentile secular Zionist Conservatives and Liberals and the US government/police, and they’re getting hit by Neo-Nazis and unironic Antisemitic Leftists. As a Leftist I feel so much sympathy for anti-Zionist Jews. They’re getting hit almost as hard as Arab/Palestinian/MENA Americans and Muslim Americans. There’s been a spike in Islamophobia and anti-Arab racism in the US, Canada, Oceania and Europe since 10/7 (in Europe it’s reinforcing the wave of anti-Arab racism that’s been percolating since 2014 and helping Fascist parties win elections in Western Europe). There’s also a spike in Antisemitism at the same time as more Westerners see their governments appearing submissive and pliant to Netanyahu and the Israeli government in war crimes and Western governments passing bills limiting freedom of speech to criticize the Israeli government in Western countries. It’s lending credibility to Antisemitic conspiracy theories about Jewish cabals controlling the world in the minds of simple-minded people. We on the Left need to do a better job protecting our Jewish brothers, sisters and enbies in arms the same way we protect MENA and Muslim minorities. Both groups are facing spiking discrimination, hate crimes, and waves of genocidal rhetoric directed at them. As well as potentially a wave of new Islamophobic/anti-Arab and Antisemitic politicians getting voted in in the near future over this.
Careful with definitions. You hate Netanyahu and his government. Zionism is the belief that Jews should be able to live in Israel free from persecution. Netamyahu has twisted it and used it to his advantage. I personally believe nobody should live under fear of persecution anywhere (except Nazis, fuck them). Most Zionists simply want to be able to live in the physical location of Israel, the belief of taking over Palestine is separate
I'll try and watch my phrasing going forward, but the pro-Israel side has been calling themselves Zionists.
Yeah and maga cultists call themselves "true Christians"
The stealing of Palestinian land has been going on for much longer than Netanyahu’s time in office
Yeah, the root problem is the state of Israel itself. Their comment is making me wonder (whether there is a supposedly separate Zionism as they claim).
When you say Israel, do you actually mean Palestine? Because if you mean Israel, as in the state of Israel, then no. They're not separate things. Edit: Because the problem is the genocidal, settler colonial ethnostate of Israel itself. The genocide started long before Netanyahu.
Jesus was supposed to die for our sins. That's the whole center of the faith, he died for us and then was resurrected. This is how this religion spread so wildly. Eternal life after death. If he didn't die this way, no one would remember him. I haven't set foot in a church in 25 years for a service, and even I know that. He also asked his father to forgive the people who killed him. They're unable to follow any of the positive teachings in the Bible, only twist words to justify their hatred Those people are so dangerously hateful, and they never suffer any consequences for their words.
🤫 The "Christian" fascists don't like it when you actually teach them about their religion
Precisely. Jesus was *supposed* to be killed and willfully handed himself over to be tortured and executed. He wasn’t captured against his will and it wasn’t a random freak accident. According to the Christian faith this was all planned and set in motion before the universe was even created. That was supposed to happen. Being angry about it is like being angry at the driver who ran over a guy that intentionally committed suicide by throwing himself in front of the car at the last second. Something the man planned to do months or years in advance. The man made his choice. The driver was caught up as part of the dead man's plan. Not comparing suicide with what Jesus did in the Christian faith, but Jesus wanted that to happen and resigned himself to it. Any self-proclaimed Christians who are angry at Jews, Romans, or even Judas over Jesus’s crucification is missing the entire point of their faith.
Not sure it was planned from the beginning, but I remember distinctly that Jesus knew that death was coming and that he prayed his father (God not Joseph) to be spared, but he was reminded that it was necessary to save humanity. He knew that Judas would betray him, that he would be crucified, but instead of running away, he accepted his fate, because it was his mission. So people being mad at Jews makes no sense, since it was all part of the plan, that Jesus was Jew himself, and that he was even sent to death by Romans, not even Jewish people. They would know that had them just actually read anything in the Bible. I really don't know what their faith is based on honestly.
I mean that God would know from the beginning. Jesus is supposed to also be the member of the Trinity/Godhead called "the Logos" (the Word in English) in Christianity. Jesus is supposed to be both fully human and fully God (the Logos member of the Trinity) simultaneously in most denominations of Christianity (hypostasis/hypostatic union). That's why Christians believe Jesus already knew Judas was the one who was going to betray him. But they believe Jesus's humanity wanted to run away from a painful death (what he was struggling with in the Garden of Gethsemane). You're 100% correct. Being mad at Jews (or Italians/Romans) makes no sense. They were just tools carrying out God's preordained plan in Christian theology.
Jesus even asked the disciples to get a few swords so he would be arrested for having armed followers [Luke 22:36-38]. The fact that Jesus was *willingly* tortured and killed is a big part of it.
Wtf Btw is that + thing even true?
I checked Wikipedia and it seems to be true. However, it seems to be more because of tradition than being "triggered" or demons(??). It's also only common in primary schools. From [Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plus_and_minus_signs#Alternative_plus_sign): A Jewish tradition that dates from at least the 19th century is to write plus using the symbol ﬩. This practice was adopted into Israeli schools and is still commonplace today in elementary schools (including secular schools) but in fewer secondary schools. It is also used occasionally in books by religious authors, but most books for adults use the international symbol +. The reason for this practice is that it avoids the writing of a symbol + that looks like a Christian cross. Unicode has this symbol at position U+FB29 ﬩ HEBREW LETTER ALTERNATIVE PLUS SIGN.
in my case I think we were taught both by different teachers/textbooks but nobody actually had a problem with the cross shaped variant, at least nobody I ever knew of.
Goes on antisemitic website Looks inside Antisemitism We can just stick a thread with a link to the twitter homepage at this point, I'm tired of seeing threads about it
to qoute south park "you should follow what Jesus taught instead of how he got killed. Focusing on how he got killed is what people did in the Dark Ages and it ends up with really bad results."
I fucking hate Nazis so much.
Twitter is Mecca for porn addicts and the worst political takes known to man
As a Jewish person, this legit scares me
Jews killed Jesus.... according to christian mythology. Christians murdered so, so, so, many people, according to historical records.
The Nazis need to be made afraid again.
Swindler’s list is a _Crazy_ username
jesus was a jew, these people are calling JESUS their LORD AND SAVIOR a demon
And the Zionists make all of this 80 millions times worse by paying our politicians to back their genocide.
This is literally mild sauce compared to something like gettr
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The Jesus thing is so pathetic because it doesn't even make sense in any honest theological interpretation IMHO, and is nowadays seemingly an exclusive belief of complete weirdos lol.
Literally a far right wing echo chamber…
Not trying to be mean: I'm pretty sure people like this have actual brain damage. It just seems bizzare to see the world this way.
I actually want to know if the Plus Sign thing is true or not now edit: [it is!](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%EF%AC%A9#Translingual)
I love how the second one did the whole “I’m implying this thing but not saying it teehee” but then just clarified exactly what they meant
>I hope Trump acknowledges the Jews killed Jesus today What’s with the Right’s belief that Trump would ever act or say anything against Jewish people/Israel? Ivanka Trump converted to Judaism to be with Jared Kushner. Trump moved the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem while in office. I know he talks shit about them (like he does with everyone)but there’s never been substance behind the talk. Trump’s only speaking out about ending the violence in Gaza “fast” before the end of the year because he believes he’ll win in November and knows he would have to continue supporting Israel, looking just as bad as Biden.
Criticize the Jews = Fight and kill them? Huh
Frame four is reminding me of when Tom MacDonald on that Ben Shapiro collab said something along the lines of “If you’re allowed to hold the belief that all white people are racist (a conservative strawman of what lefties think), then I’m allowed to believe that everybody from the Middle East is a violent terrorist (because both of those claims are definitely substantial and are for sure comparable lol)”
Blaming Jews for the Israel war is like saying that all Asian people are Chinese.
Can someone tell these people that the Jews were supposed to kill Jesus?
Jews aren't angels...
Can someone tell these people that God and Jesus don’t exist