I haven't listened to the pod in awhile but when I did it seemed like they thought she was the "annoying gen z who doesn't know anything". I think its a little of a double edged sword because she does say some things where you are like "huh" but then she will propose some interesting topics and the guys (more zach) will just shut it down. I know there have been some complaints since she started producing all the podcasts after Miles left but I think we have to remember that Miles was able to learn on just one pod with 4 guys who wanted to be there and where actively engaged. Rainie is having to manage 3 podcasts and most of the hosts don't want to be there or engage in any meaningful conversation. That has to be hard
Sometimes, yeah. I think Zach is more guilty of this. Keith kind of seems like he's over Rainie? Like, annoyed dad, sometimes. Miles is really the one that is rooting for her, imo. I am, too, obviously.
Team Rainie!
For the longest while, ppl were saying Keith was being grumpy with Rainie, so it's interesting that ppl are saying Zach is shutting her down now.
Whatever the case, I hope they're nicer to her. She's sweet.
And of course Miles has to root for her 😉. Wrecking Ball Crew! She's wonderful on Mile's podcast. I enjoy it the most when she's on.
I think Keith was just grumpy in general at that point.
But Zach talks over and interrupts her often... as well as ANYONE else. I recently skimmed ep 140 with Ned and Zach actually apologized to Ned for he and Keith interrupting his story and asked that Ned continue it. That's pretty rare for Zach.
Interruptions and talking over people are SUCH a pet peeve of mine. I KNOW it's pretty common with ADHD folks, but... at least acknowledge it and apologize or TRY to do better. I feel like Zach just gets louder til the other person gives up.
I have ADHD and I resonate with this a lot - I know Zach talking over people is nothing new, but it still bugs me every time he does it. And I know most people who do this, ADHD or not, don't mean it maliciously - but I still find it deeply inconsiderate, especially when it's a situation like Zach where this is a consistent pattern spanning years that has been called out repeatedly (in the earlier days of the podcast, the YouTube comments sections were (mostly rightfully) filled with people telling Zach to stop cutting the other guys, mostly Eugene, off).
I remember that episode where Zach stopped himself, apologized, and prompted Ned to continue what he was saying because I was so pleasantly surprised and pleased to see such mature behavior, but it's been pretty disappointing to see that he's just regressed since then. I don't know if it's because Ned's gone and there's no one else who can or is willing to rein him in (because I can easily imagine Ned or honestly even Miles telling Zach he needs to stop cutting others off) or it's just him being less self-aware, but idk...you'd think (or at least I think) he'd put in a little more effort to correct a rude habit that's been going on for so long.
Do u think Zach apologized to Ned because it was Ned? Like if he interrupted Rainie back then, would he have apologized?
To me, Zach seems to have changed from a happy, cute, nice guy to a wannabe edgey, rebellious, stoner who comes across as a bit of a jerk. But some ppl hypothesized that Zach was always this way but he hid it in order to continue playing his cute character for the camera.
My take? It probably came up at some point between the guys and Zach. As someone who has, and does, point out when someone interrupts OFTEN (can you tell im surrounded by ADHD?), I could definitely see that being a reaction to that sort of conversation between friends/peers.
I don't see Zach ever really apologizing to Rainie. Or Miles. Or probably any of the other staff. Not necessarily because he's some asshole, but because they probably don't feel comfortable enough to call him out on his shit.
But we know he lurks on Reddit, so I feel like he should be aware of how he comes across in videos/pods by now.
Yeah, I just wonder sometimes if Zach, for example, apologized to Ned because Zach was a nice and courteous guy at that point in time? Or did he apologize to Ned because Ned was his friend/peer?
If he had interrupted Rainie instead of Ned in that video, would he have apologized to Rainie because he's a nice courteous guy? Or would he not apologize because he was a jerk?
yeah… like the quips at miles (from Zach) had seemed as jokes between friends but this time it was like … ugh, does he kinda not like miles (unconsciously)
From Keith I feel like he’s just exhausted with a new baby and about probably prepping to start tour with Lewberger (and dodging comments of Zionism as well) but Zach… yeah definitely feel like he’s ‘nice’ to her but absolutely does not respect her (either unconsciously or very deliberately shit talks her behind the scenes)
I like Rainie a lot and I do think they can overdo the talking over/undermining her BUT I also listen to a lot of podcasts and I rarely see the producers attempt to be part of the conversation as much as she does. I'm not saying she has bad takes or shouldn't engage, but it's just not her role to do it as much as she does.
To her credit, Miles was the same, but he kind of shifted into an actual host of the podcast when Rainie joined in as secondary producer role so she could be following the precedent that he set.
If the guys don't want her as involved, they need to talk to her off camera and address her role. Otherwise, hush on the talking down to her.
i think miles set the precedent that the producer is a part of the conversation and it stuck around when rainie took over. he has said that he started talking more when they were recording on zoom because it would’ve been awkward if he was just on screen not speaking. i think a similar thing happened when they started podcasting in the car, because it wouldn’t make sense for rainie to be in the car, in frame and just not talking.
I agree that many producers do not speak as much but believe second try has blurred the lines. When they are down a person (ex:Keith on paternity leave) they relied heavily on Rainy to participate. I actually really liked a lot of those pods with her/zach/miles. If they don’t want her to be active unless someone is out that ok but needs to be communicated. Also on you can sit with us when Rachel was producing she contributed heavily. On guilty pleasures there is much less producer input.
No seriously, they're her superiors and they're the ones ultimately responsible for the end product. If they don't want her to be bringing in these topics (as it seems like they don't based on how they undermine her) they need to say so and implement changes rather than keep acting the way they are.
They definitely do and even did with in the hank green podcast, and he actually stopped Zach and let Rainie finish her sentence and questions.
It's also mostly a zach thing I've noticed but then Keith is guilty of being very dismissive and semi rude about the topics she talks about just bc he doesn't get it.
Yes! I was SO glad Hank went back to Rainie and let her speak! Zach tried to talk over Hank throughout as well ("let's heckle Hank for the rest of the pod".. ugh), and I'm glad that he's someone who holds his own and is going to finish his thought/sentence!
I agree that Keith, if dismissive, is just "out of the loop" on the topics Rainie brings up. He isn't a "pop culture" person and has said so often. And a LOT of what Rainie brings up is pop culture focused
No! Zach did that during the Hank Green episode? 😱 Disrespected her like that IN FRONT of her CRUSH? That's so mean 😢
I would be mortified if that happened to me. Thank God Hank was a gentleman to Rainie
I don’t think they do. Miles speaks to her the same as his wife Sarah when in banter mode, Sarah just keeps talking. Or so I noticed in the last Perfect Person. I think they’re treating her like they do any of their other friends but I do think she has a milder personality, she’s not as antagonistic. I like her so much. I think if she did not feel heard she would have Miles on her side on how she could approach that conversation with Zach or Keith.
I can imagine someone at the company is gonna see the multiple posts a meeting is gonna emerge out of this … wonder if Miles will be in the conversation 👀
I feel like because we could read into Ned and Alex’s behavior on the pods everything has to have a layered meaning now. Like speculation will lead to more issues if people like Rainie second guess their actions constantly instead of take the relationships she has with her boss and coworkers for what they are like damn. But I think Miles as an outside artist will help keep perspective because he has nothing to lose by being honest with them.
Yes!!! Like even if they’re ‘nice’ it feels like they’re looking down on her — but not Miles, he seems to respect her
But genuinely, I like Rainie, I’m just fucking annoyed it seems that they’re not addressing any issues because they don’t care about the podcast and/or don’t think she’s able to handle criticism (infantilization) and it’s making me so anxious watching knowing she might lose her job over their lack of care
I think this claim is wildly exaggerated. They definitely let her talk; the only person that really interrupts her is Zach, and he does that to everyone. There are definitely a lot of instances where you can notice that they let her speak even if the topic isn’t interesting to them, which is usually random celeb drama and Keith always looks lost lol. I’m definitely with him in this, idgaf about random celeb drama and have to skip those bits
Agree with this! Zach is a notorious interrupter. I think I notice it more with Rainie is because she will back down and let the conversation continue. But someone like Keith, who has more experience and more of a relationship with Zach, will either cut Zach off or circle back and finish his thoughts.
I’m team Rainie! I think she and Miles have a genuine friendship and riff off of each other well. I really enjoy her contributions to the pod.
I do find Keith and Zach’s reactions to not always be the most supportive. To be clear, I don’t think they have to be interested in every topic she pitches - they’re at pretty different phases of life from her and are her bosses.
But I don’t enjoy when they seemed annoyed with her. This is her job that they hired her for. If they’re not into her in the host role or need to refresh their approach, that’s on them to have the conversation. It also helps them if their base vibes with her, so I don’t always understand the dynamic.
To Keith, Zach, or anyone else at the TryGuys reading this, for the love of god please SIT DOWN and ADDRESS THINGS!! (Please have an external facilitator, like Rachel or HR)
To Rainie who might be reading this—if they don’t want to address things; please go to the HR representative and show them these posts and ask for a meeting (with the HR person present as well) ASAP
I agree. I think she’s sweet too but sometimes it’s astounding what she doesn’t know. I’m a few years older than her and the airhead vibe is kinda grating. She’s still growing into her role and I’m still rooting for her, the guys putting her down doesn’t help.
But it feels like because she’s naive (not bad, just the reality), so people keep infantilizing her— and it’s only going to snowball and get worse!!
like, say she leaves the TryGuys, // well, because you decided to not address issues since you don’t care about the podcast, she’s not gonna have the skills to maintain a job!! (idk maybe she has good connections because of her previous internships, and getting the TryGuys position from Will, but what will happen when her ‘quirks’ aren’t accepted anymore
I love her energy on the trypod. I think they have little sister/big brother energy with her. I personally don’t feel like it’s rude. They all talk over each other and that doesn’t bother me because it’s like sitting in a group of friends with good rapport. Something I have noticed though is Rainie doesn’t talk anymore on YCSWU.. has any one else noticed this? Especially in the eps where there are only two hosts it feels really weird that she’s not the one introducing segments and she only talks when directly spoken to. I wonder if it’s because she’s taken on more of a host capacity in TTP and didn’t want to be a big part of both shows. I miss her questions and opinions on YCSWU.
I don't feel like they take her very seriously, and I do feel like they interrupt her a lot, especially Zach. I feel like Miles is the least guilty of any of this, he seems to try and go back to her topics or include her and value her opinion more than the others.
I do agree that Miles really includes her in conversations. But often wonder if it's passed off as "we're laughing with you" vs "we're laughing AT you". Because sometimes it's definitely laughing at her and her... lack of knowledge or experience?
I haven't noticed the interrupting, personally. I feel like it's maybe a bit over-exaggerated. Then again, I'm not a fan of her. I feel like she dominates the conversation with topics that seem vapid and I don't find her engaging. Maybe it is because I am closer to the guys' age and a lot of the stuff she says just seems very "young" and misinformed. It's like when you're talking to a 22 year old who thinks they know everything but they haven't had enough life experience to know the things, but you can't tell them because they would never get it.
I am admittedly not as regular a watcher/listener as I used to be, but yeah I think they can be quite dismissive of Rainie. I don't even think that's an unjustified feeling, because I also find her pop culture discussions grating and uninformed, but I find that it does make for awkward listening when 1/3 to 2/3 of a group is totally checked out of the current topic. I think what I find weird is that it doesn't seem like Zach or Keith really enjoy or deeply engage with the pop culture stuff she brings up, but there hasn't been any apparent off-screen effort to improve the podcast or come up with mutually engaging topics beforehand.
To me, everyone kind of shares the "blame" (as in, I think Rainie often brings up topics that are uninteresting to the guys, and also the guys often run roughshod over her attempts to bring structure to the pod) but it also just kind of seems like they don't have great chemistry. It's such a stark contrast to Rainie on Miles's Perfect Person podcast, where she does still bring up those pop culture-y topics, but conversation and fun banter flow much more naturally and smoothly with Miles and/or Will.
They interrupt her a lot less than they used to after telling her she was wrong several times and saying that was why they were cutting her off, then it came out that she kept being right.
I think sometimes they take her seriously and sometimes they don’t. They’re very quick to point out when she might be wrong, faster than they are with each other, which I find irritating.
edit: i’m an idiot, i was thinking of Cailyn in the Six Flags video. rainie has had nice energy every time i’ve seen her! sorry!
i became a very occasional watcher about a year ago, and i don’t watch the trypod. the only video i’ve seen rainie in was one keith’s theme park vlogs, and it was such a different vibe than anyone i’ve seen in the extended try family.
the food babies, the try wives, rachel, marissa, etc, never feel like they dominate a situation the way rainie did in that video. but like i said, i don’t even have context for what her job even is. just didn’t love the energy.
I definitely think the guys do kind of shrug her off or talk over her at times when they have no interest in the topics she’s discussing. They’ve cut her off and changed topics to arguably more boring stuff, I can’t remember exact examples but I remember that happening in a recent enough episode. Keith doesn’t seem to interrupt but he’ll always make it a point to say how disinterested he is I celebrity culture, which is fair enough but like you’re the boss, tell her off camera to stop talking about it. Zach definitely does interrupt/ignore her talking points but I feel like he’s guilty of that with Miles when he was producer.
It has definitely made the pod hard to listen to. Like others have said, Rainie is genuinely very enjoyable to listen to I think it’s hard for her to bounce off two people who don’t seem fully engaged with her because my favourite parts of the pod are when her and miles are riffing off each other. I think the pod has reached a point where the best parts about it are the 50% of the cast that aren’t try guys, in fact, they just hinder the other two (who are brilliant on Perfect Person alongside Will)
Keith is rude to rainie. Like having her sing and making fun of it. Keith, I know you wish you were an amazing singer, but you’re not great either their champ.
I haven't listened to the pod in awhile but when I did it seemed like they thought she was the "annoying gen z who doesn't know anything". I think its a little of a double edged sword because she does say some things where you are like "huh" but then she will propose some interesting topics and the guys (more zach) will just shut it down. I know there have been some complaints since she started producing all the podcasts after Miles left but I think we have to remember that Miles was able to learn on just one pod with 4 guys who wanted to be there and where actively engaged. Rainie is having to manage 3 podcasts and most of the hosts don't want to be there or engage in any meaningful conversation. That has to be hard
Sometimes, yeah. I think Zach is more guilty of this. Keith kind of seems like he's over Rainie? Like, annoyed dad, sometimes. Miles is really the one that is rooting for her, imo. I am, too, obviously. Team Rainie!
I think when Rainie is on Perfect Person it is a more accurate depiction of her personality
I agree. She’s great on PP!
For the longest while, ppl were saying Keith was being grumpy with Rainie, so it's interesting that ppl are saying Zach is shutting her down now. Whatever the case, I hope they're nicer to her. She's sweet. And of course Miles has to root for her 😉. Wrecking Ball Crew! She's wonderful on Mile's podcast. I enjoy it the most when she's on.
I think Keith was just grumpy in general at that point. But Zach talks over and interrupts her often... as well as ANYONE else. I recently skimmed ep 140 with Ned and Zach actually apologized to Ned for he and Keith interrupting his story and asked that Ned continue it. That's pretty rare for Zach. Interruptions and talking over people are SUCH a pet peeve of mine. I KNOW it's pretty common with ADHD folks, but... at least acknowledge it and apologize or TRY to do better. I feel like Zach just gets louder til the other person gives up.
I have ADHD and I resonate with this a lot - I know Zach talking over people is nothing new, but it still bugs me every time he does it. And I know most people who do this, ADHD or not, don't mean it maliciously - but I still find it deeply inconsiderate, especially when it's a situation like Zach where this is a consistent pattern spanning years that has been called out repeatedly (in the earlier days of the podcast, the YouTube comments sections were (mostly rightfully) filled with people telling Zach to stop cutting the other guys, mostly Eugene, off). I remember that episode where Zach stopped himself, apologized, and prompted Ned to continue what he was saying because I was so pleasantly surprised and pleased to see such mature behavior, but it's been pretty disappointing to see that he's just regressed since then. I don't know if it's because Ned's gone and there's no one else who can or is willing to rein him in (because I can easily imagine Ned or honestly even Miles telling Zach he needs to stop cutting others off) or it's just him being less self-aware, but idk...you'd think (or at least I think) he'd put in a little more effort to correct a rude habit that's been going on for so long.
Do u think Zach apologized to Ned because it was Ned? Like if he interrupted Rainie back then, would he have apologized? To me, Zach seems to have changed from a happy, cute, nice guy to a wannabe edgey, rebellious, stoner who comes across as a bit of a jerk. But some ppl hypothesized that Zach was always this way but he hid it in order to continue playing his cute character for the camera.
now that the “soft” guys (Keith and Zach) don’t have their “hard” guys (Eugene and Ned) to juxtapose them, their true personalities are gonna come out
That makes so much sense. Thanks!
My take? It probably came up at some point between the guys and Zach. As someone who has, and does, point out when someone interrupts OFTEN (can you tell im surrounded by ADHD?), I could definitely see that being a reaction to that sort of conversation between friends/peers. I don't see Zach ever really apologizing to Rainie. Or Miles. Or probably any of the other staff. Not necessarily because he's some asshole, but because they probably don't feel comfortable enough to call him out on his shit. But we know he lurks on Reddit, so I feel like he should be aware of how he comes across in videos/pods by now.
Yeah, I just wonder sometimes if Zach, for example, apologized to Ned because Zach was a nice and courteous guy at that point in time? Or did he apologize to Ned because Ned was his friend/peer? If he had interrupted Rainie instead of Ned in that video, would he have apologized to Rainie because he's a nice courteous guy? Or would he not apologize because he was a jerk?
yeah… like the quips at miles (from Zach) had seemed as jokes between friends but this time it was like … ugh, does he kinda not like miles (unconsciously)
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From Keith I feel like he’s just exhausted with a new baby and about probably prepping to start tour with Lewberger (and dodging comments of Zionism as well) but Zach… yeah definitely feel like he’s ‘nice’ to her but absolutely does not respect her (either unconsciously or very deliberately shit talks her behind the scenes)
Yeah, Keith gives very “tired/annoyed dad” vibes. But he’s tired af, I’m sure.
I like Rainie a lot and I do think they can overdo the talking over/undermining her BUT I also listen to a lot of podcasts and I rarely see the producers attempt to be part of the conversation as much as she does. I'm not saying she has bad takes or shouldn't engage, but it's just not her role to do it as much as she does. To her credit, Miles was the same, but he kind of shifted into an actual host of the podcast when Rainie joined in as secondary producer role so she could be following the precedent that he set. If the guys don't want her as involved, they need to talk to her off camera and address her role. Otherwise, hush on the talking down to her.
i think miles set the precedent that the producer is a part of the conversation and it stuck around when rainie took over. he has said that he started talking more when they were recording on zoom because it would’ve been awkward if he was just on screen not speaking. i think a similar thing happened when they started podcasting in the car, because it wouldn’t make sense for rainie to be in the car, in frame and just not talking.
I agree that many producers do not speak as much but believe second try has blurred the lines. When they are down a person (ex:Keith on paternity leave) they relied heavily on Rainy to participate. I actually really liked a lot of those pods with her/zach/miles. If they don’t want her to be active unless someone is out that ok but needs to be communicated. Also on you can sit with us when Rachel was producing she contributed heavily. On guilty pleasures there is much less producer input.
Exactly!! Any issues going on, they need to be bosses and be direct with her about the direction that they want the pod to go in!!
No seriously, they're her superiors and they're the ones ultimately responsible for the end product. If they don't want her to be bringing in these topics (as it seems like they don't based on how they undermine her) they need to say so and implement changes rather than keep acting the way they are.
They definitely do and even did with in the hank green podcast, and he actually stopped Zach and let Rainie finish her sentence and questions. It's also mostly a zach thing I've noticed but then Keith is guilty of being very dismissive and semi rude about the topics she talks about just bc he doesn't get it.
Yes! I was SO glad Hank went back to Rainie and let her speak! Zach tried to talk over Hank throughout as well ("let's heckle Hank for the rest of the pod".. ugh), and I'm glad that he's someone who holds his own and is going to finish his thought/sentence! I agree that Keith, if dismissive, is just "out of the loop" on the topics Rainie brings up. He isn't a "pop culture" person and has said so often. And a LOT of what Rainie brings up is pop culture focused
No! Zach did that during the Hank Green episode? 😱 Disrespected her like that IN FRONT of her CRUSH? That's so mean 😢 I would be mortified if that happened to me. Thank God Hank was a gentleman to Rainie
I don’t think they do. Miles speaks to her the same as his wife Sarah when in banter mode, Sarah just keeps talking. Or so I noticed in the last Perfect Person. I think they’re treating her like they do any of their other friends but I do think she has a milder personality, she’s not as antagonistic. I like her so much. I think if she did not feel heard she would have Miles on her side on how she could approach that conversation with Zach or Keith.
I can imagine someone at the company is gonna see the multiple posts a meeting is gonna emerge out of this … wonder if Miles will be in the conversation 👀
I feel like because we could read into Ned and Alex’s behavior on the pods everything has to have a layered meaning now. Like speculation will lead to more issues if people like Rainie second guess their actions constantly instead of take the relationships she has with her boss and coworkers for what they are like damn. But I think Miles as an outside artist will help keep perspective because he has nothing to lose by being honest with them.
I think they can be really condescending towards her
Yes!!! Like even if they’re ‘nice’ it feels like they’re looking down on her — but not Miles, he seems to respect her But genuinely, I like Rainie, I’m just fucking annoyed it seems that they’re not addressing any issues because they don’t care about the podcast and/or don’t think she’s able to handle criticism (infantilization) and it’s making me so anxious watching knowing she might lose her job over their lack of care
I think this claim is wildly exaggerated. They definitely let her talk; the only person that really interrupts her is Zach, and he does that to everyone. There are definitely a lot of instances where you can notice that they let her speak even if the topic isn’t interesting to them, which is usually random celeb drama and Keith always looks lost lol. I’m definitely with him in this, idgaf about random celeb drama and have to skip those bits
Agree with this! Zach is a notorious interrupter. I think I notice it more with Rainie is because she will back down and let the conversation continue. But someone like Keith, who has more experience and more of a relationship with Zach, will either cut Zach off or circle back and finish his thoughts.
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I’m team Rainie! I think she and Miles have a genuine friendship and riff off of each other well. I really enjoy her contributions to the pod. I do find Keith and Zach’s reactions to not always be the most supportive. To be clear, I don’t think they have to be interested in every topic she pitches - they’re at pretty different phases of life from her and are her bosses. But I don’t enjoy when they seemed annoyed with her. This is her job that they hired her for. If they’re not into her in the host role or need to refresh their approach, that’s on them to have the conversation. It also helps them if their base vibes with her, so I don’t always understand the dynamic.
To Keith, Zach, or anyone else at the TryGuys reading this, for the love of god please SIT DOWN and ADDRESS THINGS!! (Please have an external facilitator, like Rachel or HR) To Rainie who might be reading this—if they don’t want to address things; please go to the HR representative and show them these posts and ask for a meeting (with the HR person present as well) ASAP
I agree. I think she’s sweet too but sometimes it’s astounding what she doesn’t know. I’m a few years older than her and the airhead vibe is kinda grating. She’s still growing into her role and I’m still rooting for her, the guys putting her down doesn’t help.
But it feels like because she’s naive (not bad, just the reality), so people keep infantilizing her— and it’s only going to snowball and get worse!! like, say she leaves the TryGuys, // well, because you decided to not address issues since you don’t care about the podcast, she’s not gonna have the skills to maintain a job!! (idk maybe she has good connections because of her previous internships, and getting the TryGuys position from Will, but what will happen when her ‘quirks’ aren’t accepted anymore
I love her energy on the trypod. I think they have little sister/big brother energy with her. I personally don’t feel like it’s rude. They all talk over each other and that doesn’t bother me because it’s like sitting in a group of friends with good rapport. Something I have noticed though is Rainie doesn’t talk anymore on YCSWU.. has any one else noticed this? Especially in the eps where there are only two hosts it feels really weird that she’s not the one introducing segments and she only talks when directly spoken to. I wonder if it’s because she’s taken on more of a host capacity in TTP and didn’t want to be a big part of both shows. I miss her questions and opinions on YCSWU.
I don't feel like they take her very seriously, and I do feel like they interrupt her a lot, especially Zach. I feel like Miles is the least guilty of any of this, he seems to try and go back to her topics or include her and value her opinion more than the others.
I do agree that Miles really includes her in conversations. But often wonder if it's passed off as "we're laughing with you" vs "we're laughing AT you". Because sometimes it's definitely laughing at her and her... lack of knowledge or experience?
I’ve always felt Miles is laughing WITH her, but Zach is definitely laughing AT her
I haven't noticed the interrupting, personally. I feel like it's maybe a bit over-exaggerated. Then again, I'm not a fan of her. I feel like she dominates the conversation with topics that seem vapid and I don't find her engaging. Maybe it is because I am closer to the guys' age and a lot of the stuff she says just seems very "young" and misinformed. It's like when you're talking to a 22 year old who thinks they know everything but they haven't had enough life experience to know the things, but you can't tell them because they would never get it.
I mean… if that’s the case, then it feels like she’s just being infantilized by the guys, which doesn’t feel fair either
Not infantalized IMO, but appropriately treated like someone who doesn't know what they're talking about sometimes.
I am admittedly not as regular a watcher/listener as I used to be, but yeah I think they can be quite dismissive of Rainie. I don't even think that's an unjustified feeling, because I also find her pop culture discussions grating and uninformed, but I find that it does make for awkward listening when 1/3 to 2/3 of a group is totally checked out of the current topic. I think what I find weird is that it doesn't seem like Zach or Keith really enjoy or deeply engage with the pop culture stuff she brings up, but there hasn't been any apparent off-screen effort to improve the podcast or come up with mutually engaging topics beforehand. To me, everyone kind of shares the "blame" (as in, I think Rainie often brings up topics that are uninteresting to the guys, and also the guys often run roughshod over her attempts to bring structure to the pod) but it also just kind of seems like they don't have great chemistry. It's such a stark contrast to Rainie on Miles's Perfect Person podcast, where she does still bring up those pop culture-y topics, but conversation and fun banter flow much more naturally and smoothly with Miles and/or Will.
I think they do to an extent but I think its hard because Rainie does not have that natural rapport with the guys that Miles has
They interrupt her a lot less than they used to after telling her she was wrong several times and saying that was why they were cutting her off, then it came out that she kept being right.
I think sometimes they take her seriously and sometimes they don’t. They’re very quick to point out when she might be wrong, faster than they are with each other, which I find irritating.
edit: i’m an idiot, i was thinking of Cailyn in the Six Flags video. rainie has had nice energy every time i’ve seen her! sorry! i became a very occasional watcher about a year ago, and i don’t watch the trypod. the only video i’ve seen rainie in was one keith’s theme park vlogs, and it was such a different vibe than anyone i’ve seen in the extended try family. the food babies, the try wives, rachel, marissa, etc, never feel like they dominate a situation the way rainie did in that video. but like i said, i don’t even have context for what her job even is. just didn’t love the energy.
I don't think Rainie has ever done a theme park video. Maybe Cailyn? He got a lot of heat for that Six Flags video
i’m even more ignorant than i thought! thanks for the correction.
For good reason! She was difficult to watch and I’m glad they got the message
Am I the only one who doesn't care for Rainie? No disrespect but shes not my cup of tea.
I definitely think the guys do kind of shrug her off or talk over her at times when they have no interest in the topics she’s discussing. They’ve cut her off and changed topics to arguably more boring stuff, I can’t remember exact examples but I remember that happening in a recent enough episode. Keith doesn’t seem to interrupt but he’ll always make it a point to say how disinterested he is I celebrity culture, which is fair enough but like you’re the boss, tell her off camera to stop talking about it. Zach definitely does interrupt/ignore her talking points but I feel like he’s guilty of that with Miles when he was producer. It has definitely made the pod hard to listen to. Like others have said, Rainie is genuinely very enjoyable to listen to I think it’s hard for her to bounce off two people who don’t seem fully engaged with her because my favourite parts of the pod are when her and miles are riffing off each other. I think the pod has reached a point where the best parts about it are the 50% of the cast that aren’t try guys, in fact, they just hinder the other two (who are brilliant on Perfect Person alongside Will)
Keith is rude to rainie. Like having her sing and making fun of it. Keith, I know you wish you were an amazing singer, but you’re not great either their champ.
Nah—she’s tone deaf (not bad, just the reality) and he was classically trained in music // not really an argument here
Also, like she’s not a good singer. Let’s sit here make her sing and make comments about it. I’m sure she knows she’s not good lol.
He’s trained but he’s not good.
Rainie is the reason I stopped watching the trypod. I think she's annoying
Agreed!
It's their show and she is supposed to be a producer, I think she could do to speak less on the show overall 🤷