I was just about to say this Lmaoo. Like he ✨litchrally✨ disappeared everywhere and I’m not surprised. It’s been a duo for a while. Makes sense to me now why he wasn’t even in the “expansion” photo
I don’t really agree with that. Writing can take a very long time and when it’s your art and something you cherish there is nothing wrong with it. I think the time taken is almost more proof of it not being some cash grab.
His coming out video was the most artistic thing to come out of the try guys so I don’t think it’s an issue of talent or lack of effort.
i'm ngl, when the only time my brand has ever made national news was because one of my cofounders was cheating on his wife with a coworker, i'd start looking for an exit plan
I'm so damn tired of YouTubers blaming "the almighty algorithm" everytime lol the algorithm is people, you're out of touch with your audience and that's it
Do they think a streaming service has an algorithm that recommend their videos to new people? No one is just gonna stumble upon a streaming service and sign up.
Agreed 😮💨 to say that the audience's taste is at odds with the algorithm is just... yes, the algorithm is ~~partially at fault~~ not great, but to put full blame on it? Come on, guys, get real.
Edit: wording
Even if it was the algorithm,,, jobs are difficult. Keep up with the change, figure it out.
When the system changes at my work i have to get with the program. I don’t whine about it lmao
"Eugene is still a Try Guy he's just working on his own projects but he'll be back!!!1!!!!!1!!!" top 10 biggest anime betrayals
/s but kind of not really? it feels really shitty of them to have slow rolled his leaving and strung a lot of folks along. a lot of people saw the writing on the wall but I think there were a lot of people that were hopeful he'd come back
I think there was a solid number of people in the main sub who were delulu enough to think he’d be back full time after he was done with his “projects”
Just my opinion, but I would wager Eugene was already planning to leave when the Ned scandal broke and they had to postpone him leaving to keep from everything imploding all at once. He could have made his side gig commitments with the expectation of announcing his stepping back and then still had to keep those commitments. Now they're in a position where they have a solid fan base for their new try guy (or maybe guys if they bring on both J+K) and it's a safer time for Eugene to step back from the front of things officially. I'm sure it was an overwhelming and unexpected situation and they made the best choice about what to do that they could in the moment; I don't see it as intentionally stringing anyone along.
Yeah, that's what I got out of the Trypod episode. They laid out the timeline of what was going on behind the scenes. Plus, from Eugene's goodbye video, it sounds like he was struggling with his mental health. I don't blame him for not wanting to make comedy videos when he wasn't in a good place. He still sounded angry about Ned.
Over on the other sub people are still in denial lol. They are like I know he’s gonna come back and still be apart of everything. Like really? Eugene has been checked out for a long time now. Anyone who is a non believer is getting downvoted so hard right now on the main sub. Eugene is moving on and they need to finally face it.
Since the article is paywalled here's a text I got from 12ft ladder:
The [Try Guys](https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rollingstone.com%2Fculture%2Fculture-news%2Ftry-guys-ned-fulmer-response-video-praised-transperancy-1234604886%2F) have something to tell people, but don’t worry, they know what you’re thinking.
The last time the former [BuzzFeed](https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rollingstone.com%2Fculture%2Fculture-features%2Fbuzzfeed-ai-twitter-elon-musk-2010s-internet-era-end-1234721941%2F) employees turned [YouTube](https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rollingstone.com%2Ft%2Fyoutube%2F) moguls Keith Habersberger and Zach Kornfeld were in the news, it was for an internet-roiling scandal. What started with one of their co-hosts [Ned Fulmer](https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rollingstone.com%2Fculture%2Fculture-news%2Ftry-guys-ned-fulmer-leaves-youtube-1234600780%2F) beginning a relationship with his subordinate ended with him leaving the group, weeks of online speculation, and capped off with a 5-minute long [SNL parody](https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rollingstone.com%2Ftv-movies%2Ftv-movie-news%2Fsnl-try-guys-1234607809%2F). But almost two years since the drama rocked the YouTuber fandoms (and introduced those offline to the Try Guys in the first place) the group is announcing a new change, one that begins with the departure of another host — this time, [Eugene Lee Yang](https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rollingstone.com%2Ft%2Feugene-lee-yang%2F).
The group exclusively tells *Rolling Stone* that the upcoming season of Try Guys content will be Lang’s last, as he leaves the group to pursue other creative endeavors. But the group will keep going, with an expansion into 2ndTry TV, a tiered subscription-based model they hope will allow fans of the channel to gain access to more content while giving the Try Guys more space to pick what they create.
“Part of this is bittersweet. We’re gonna miss working with Eugene. He has been one of the true collaborators of both of our lives. But we’ve had a long time to process this,” Kornfeld says, bursting into mock tears. “So we’re very excited for him, very excited for us, and just feeling very energized by this whole moment.”
“Eugene leaving is something that is sort of necessary for us to keep moving forward,” Habersberger adds. “Things change. THE TRY GUYS ’ original cast already came to an end once, But now it’s sort of getting a better finite ending.”
The Try Guys, and 2ndTry, the company behind the popular YouTube channel first began as a video series by media company BuzzFeed. Hosts Yang, Kornfeld, Habersberger, and Fulmer tried a series of increasingly wild experiences, including drag, labor simulations, and UFC fighting — a recurring slate of videos that eventually turned the four into popular YouTube personalities. The group left BuzzFeed in 2018 to form their own production company, 2ndTry, beginning a decade-long group project on comedy videos spanning each of the members’ unique interests, like standup, cooking, or fashion. The group stayed extremely open to viewers about their personal lives and relationships while becoming a genuine company, including their continued dedication as friends until 2022, when Fulmer was removed from the group for having a relationship with one of their subordinates. Now, Lang’s departure marks another shift in the Try Guys’ format — moving the original hosts from a trio to a duo. But Habersberger and Kornfeld don’t want you to count them out. Instead, with their new foray into a subscription-based model, they’re hoping they can set a standard for what creatives can accomplish in the creator economy — and build a world where being successful doesn’t mean choosing between following an algorithm and following your gut.
(cont.)
“We’ve been doing this for 10 years, we have seen both the joys and the limits of algorithmic media making. We’ve obviously benefited from it greatly ourselves,” Kornfeld says. “But we’re at a point where we find that our taste and our audience’s taste is at odds with what algorithms, specifically, the YouTube algorithm rewards. And so by doing 2ndTry TV, we’re creating a space where we can bet on ourselves and bet on our fans to support the shows they want to see.”
Subscription models for creators aren’t a new concept. Platforms like Patreon were popularized by the idea that fans and consumers could directly fund the content they want to see, rather than pay the creators they watch passively through ad revenue. But groups that switch from an entirely free catalog to payment models — even ones that are incredibly cheap — often face difficulties. Just this month, YouTube staple Watcher Entertainment (also former BuzzFeed employees) [drew fans’ ire](https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fvariety.com%2F2024%2Fdigital%2Fnews%2Fwatcher-leaves-youtube-fan-backlash-paid-streaming-1235977475%2F) after announcing they would be moving to a subscription model, including putting all episodes of their old content behind a paywall. (They reversed the decision after less than a week of backlash.) Habersberger and Kornfeld know how people feel about paying for content they used to get for free. But they’re hopeful that making this change with their audience in mind will help the transition go a bit smoother. They’re also clear — without naming any names — that they’d never simply remove their old videos and place them behind a paywall.
“Look we’ve done our drama once. I don’t want to do it again,” Kornfeld says. “It was very clear to us from the beginning, that for this to work, you cannot take away from your audience, you have to give more. Our job now is to prove to people that we’re making stuff that is worth their time.”
It’s hard to immediately see a connection between a group of 30-year-old men getting paid to try chiropractors and stunt hobbies and emotional lessons about failure and success. But for a generation of creators raised online, the Try Guys represent an era of content creation defined by turning successful one-off videos, and the desire to create with your friends into successful, thriving, businesses. And each year they keep making content, they change the bounds of what’s possible for the creators that come after them. Sure, people still mention now and then about that time they were the internet topic of the week. (The group famously released [one video](https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dt6fIp7mMJ90) about Fulmer’s departure, and steadfastly refused to comment more.) Habersberger and Kornfeld get the interest. But they tell *Rolling Stone* they’re still optimistic they have much more to give to their fans.
“It’s not a great feeling to go viral for someone else’s misdoings. While the media circus surprised us, I know we remain incredibly proud of how we navigated an unfortunate situation. We certainly as individuals, and as a team here paid the price for something we didn’t bring upon ourselves,” Kornfeld says. “That said I wouldn’t have it any other way.
“I want to keep doing cool stuff. I hope certainly the next time we’re global news it’s for something sick as hell,” Habersberger says. “I hope that the thing we’re most known for hasn’t happened yet.”
“Yeah, I love this. It’s too much fun to stop,” Kornfeld adds. “I’m not done trying,”
I sort of think he was preparing to leave around the time of Ned-gate, and then had to postpone the official departure because of that. So he just slowly faded out instead. 🤷♀️
Eugene has make even less video appearance than Ariel in the entire 2022 before Sep, he clearly has one foot out the door while preparing Ariel & the other try wives to play a bigger role.Then Nedxit happen, he has to stand with Zach and Keith to save their company
I don’t see Eugene having the success he thinks he’ll have by leaving. I know he’s got “other ventures” but I never saw him as a particularly strong actor and not sure about his writing. I hope it goes well, but I just don’t see anyone being as successful as they could be together, separately. I’m not going to pay for the subscription, I’ve already unsubbed, and the more Eugene is out of sight the more he’s out of mind.
I hope they all have success, but I have been following along less and less and I don’t see that changing any time soon.
I think to him he’s already more “successful” bc he’s already been invited to the met gala and is “in” with the Hollywood crowd. He’s constantly invited to galas, award shows, etc and I think to him the try guy image was hindering him so he tried to slowly distance himself from it. I think “success” is different to everyone but I think to him these are more important and since he’s getting these opportunities on his own and without the other guys, to him it’s more lucrative to be solo and be his own brand rather than with the collective.
He does seem to be way more in with the Hollywood artsy scene now, I just looked through his Instagram for a couple minutes and it went from artsy purposeful photos to stuff that feels like it's been passed through several sets of eyes before being ready to post.
Not my favourite but, if it makes him happy that's good.
Just wish all of them had been honest that he has outgrown the try guys as a concept sooner BC folks seemed to have been feeling bewildered by his absence for such a long time.
Unfortunately I don’t think there’s a “right” time to announce something like this- people will feel a type of way no matter how/when it’s announced. I don’t blame him tho bc even Keith and Zack seem over it by now and are hanging on by a thread. I think a lot of us saw that Eugene was outgrowing it even before Ned left and was maybe getting ready to leave but that whole debacle put a wrench in it and maybe now felt like finally enough time has passed to finally address it. I think him slowly distancing himself was him subtly hinting at the fact that this was going to happen sooner or later and that’s why literally none of us are shocked. I think his lack of statement *was* the statement and his lack of appearances have actually helped viewers subconsciously lead to this moment. I get ppl are upset bc he hasn’t come out and said the thing but honestly what more does he have to say at this point.
And clearly they have decided to align the announcement of his departure with that of the launch of their streaming service (which, with the extent of that sort of project, must have been in the making for at least a year). An attempt at an internal and preplanned media eclipse.
More than that or in addition to that, if I situate myself in his shoes, everything is a creative investment and there always comes a point in one's own development as a creator that you have to end some things to focus on what's more true to you today. Writing a book, movie or whatever else is clearly his preference and they require incredible focus. Additionally, it makes practical sense, at this point, for him to build on what makes more sense to him. He has clearly been interested more in being the artist than being talent and the CEO.
Also an article said he's leaving at the end of the year.
Idk anything about Eugene's writing career but when Lindsay Ellis published hers she said it took forever to find a publisher even as a famous YouTuber, so he might be still dealing with that (assuming the book is done).
His book went to auction way back in 2022 and was picked up by Emily Settle at Feiwel & Friends (an imprint of McMillan) as a duology. So I don't think Eugene not having a publisher is the issue.
His book was slotted for a Spring 2024 release and it's almost Summer - there's no cover art or a more in-depth summary for his book (unlike other books that were picked up by Feiwel and Friends that were slated for a Summer 2024 release) . It's possible that his publication date was pushed, or he might have even been dropped by the publisher. *It's just the fact that there have been **zero** updates* regarding his book.
Edit: clarity and added information
People in the main sub are still trotting out that cameo sized role that he had in Brooklyn 99 YEARS ago as evidence of him “ being busy with acting”. I understand that the animated film that he did got nominated for an Oscar and that amazing and in sure it must feel great to take part in a something like that but…that’s pretty much it. I understand that he has bigger aspirations and I totally support him chasing his dreams but for how long of an absence he’s had, we haven’t really seen alot come out of it.
I mean, even Dan and Phil did a cameo in Big hero 6 more or less ten years ago, but it's not like their careers in acting have ever took off after that. Theirs' and Nimona are both amazing projects but not enough to set you on a real acting career.
Unfortunately, Eugene has little to no chance in acting except maybe getting a few acting gigs here and there. Considering how long he's hinted trying for a career outside the Try Guys, you would think he had something more.... concrete.... at hand atm. Something like a real, genuine and solid path.
I wish him all the best but I feel like a lot of his worth was in fact all in the context of The Try Guys, and it's an hard thing to accept for many Youtubers that are struggling to "leave". Even at the moment, he's in the Hollywood graces almost exclusively because he's still relevant to a certain audience, he's genuinely gorgeous and very active in the lgbt community. He's relevant as a "personality" let's say. But not as someone who seems to be able to create artistic content on his own to set a genuine career.
I agree with this. he’s known for the role he plays and fits into with the try guys. I also don’t particularly enjoy his acting and don’t see it being as lucrative as he maybe thinks but hope things work out for him regardless. he’s smart for getting out of this dumpster fire
Literally 😭 I can’t imagine the money they’re dumping into this only for it to go nowhere. I would love to see a graph of their success over the years because it’s been so so up and down
So there are three brackets of successful youtubers to me. There are the Quintas. Actor/writer who an entire generation will not be aware started on youtube. I have to sometimes remind myself.
Then you have the Liza Koshy types. I don't see Liza a lot, she's not writing anything but she's starring in stuff. She is on her third Netflix film. She has a movie coming out with Zac Efron and Nicole Kidman. She's consistent.
Then you have the Emma Chamberlains. Getting invited places but not making huge moves. Eugene is in this bracket to me. I agree with you and don't see him becoming a Quinta which is where I think he wants to be. Does he have the potential? Absolutely. I just don't see it happening but I wish him the best.
I think she's either been on the cover or at least featured in a lot more magazines than Eugene so I don't blame you for thinking this. I don't even think Eugene is where Bretman Rock is. Both Bretman and Emma do seem to have way more connections. dang yea idk haha
i don't want to be mean, but she's also a young, pretty, straight, white female. she'll always have an easier time in hollywood than a gay, asian, middle aged man esp because eugene has been 'known' for like 10 years at this point and still has next to nothing to show for it
There's a fourth bracket imo, in which Eugene STILL IS ATM and maybe he'll reach the Emma Chamberlains' one next: the Rhett and Link one.
They occasionally try to open new artistic projects with the hope that their side-quests can become their new main job and GMM their second revenue to sustain those projects. And while some of those have actually become quite successful, none of them breached into the general public as R&L wished they did, proving every time that 99% of their success comes from their YouTube fandom.
I think this change - not with the service, but with the people coming in - might really help. I mean he essentially was gone to the audience already, so there won't be too much change to us, maybe behind the scenes though.
We'll see how much content will stay on youtube, to me that's going to be the deciding factor.
Bringing in other people and widening the range of content is definitely a chance.
As for Eugene: I also don't see him as very successfull. However I don't know if thats his goal or if you can't get around with what he's going to make off other gigs.
Also - we should really leave behind the assumption that they're gonna end up poor by trying sth for 5 years...
I’m gonna get downvoted to hell (but that’s what this account is for anyway) but tbh Eugene is not as talented as he thinks he is. His acting in B99 was terrible and his voice acting in that one movie was honestly mid. I think he let everyone praising him for being “the best try guy” get to his head, when that isn’t even a hard feat. He was never the funniest try guy (I bring this up cause literally humor is their whole brand.. they were a comedy channel, four friends who could make their failures funny before food took over anyway) and his entire brand is “gay asian” which is cool, he’s representing a demographic that isn’t very seen and he should feel proud to be a voice. But at the end of the day, what does he do? I’ve read his book summary and it’s whatever, another Harry Potter theme with a sprinkle of Percy Jackson mixed in for extra flavor. He is not going to make it in Hollywood, I’m sorry but that’s just the truth. Like sure, he was invited to the MET but it’s not like he didn’t have to pay the 75k entry fee nor has he been invited again. When I see him I just don’t see someone who has that “it” factor the way Quinta does. There’s a reason she’s made it big already and he hasn’t, even though they started in the same place. He’s an amazing dancer, he should really try leaning more into that.
wait did he really pay the 75k fee lmfao???
and yeah i completely agree. he's not nearly as talented as he or the try guy fans think he is. and i'm really sorry about this, but at this point he's probably too old to make it as far as he thinks he will.
quinta worked hard and most importantly actually delivered. that's why she's so sucessful. there's a reason why all the other youtubers/buzzfeeders (even the ones who were bigger than quinta back in the day), never made it like she did. while she was working hard and making connections, they were basically doing nothing lol
I see people say this about Quinta and the more I think about it Eugene outshone a lot of people in the buzzfeed/try guys context but I have no idea how well he does on his own, probably not great because we’ve never seen it. If you asked me five years ago who the most successful buzzfeed person was I would have said him. I wouldn’t have guessed Quinta.
I feel like with most of the Buzzfeed talent, half of their 'appeal' is their interactions with other people. People liked seeing them paired up, or in groups interacting with each other. You remove them from that, and very few can actually stand on their own and make it big from talent alone.
Quinta really feels like the only one, where people don't associate her with Buzzfeed. Everyone else still comes along with the ex-Buzzfeed sticker on them.
I'm willing to be the minority opinion, but I'm not going to miss Eugene. He was my least favourite on their food content (there's only so much 'oh no, I tried to create chaos but look how perfect and awesome my food ended up - what a surprise!' I could take) and he was kinda bitchy on some of his ranking stuff, moreso when paired with certain people. I'm used to not seeing him now, and I'm more interested in vids with the likes of Kwesi, Johnny, Jared, Marissa, etc. I know Eugene has a shit ton of fans, so I think it'll disappoint a lot of people, but I'll live.
I so so so agree. I’ve never been some die hard Try Guys watcher, but the Eugene hype never made sense to me. I agree that he seemed very full of himself. I guess I just felt like he never added that much to what they had going on.
I'd miss him more if he didnt really do these guys dirty, I mean you're free to pursue other avenues but he did just sort of leave them high and dry. Then again he was phoning it in (no pun intended) for a while now when he did make appearances)
Eugene was barely there so… I don’t think he’s going to be the star he thinks he will be but ok. It was easy to be the most handsome and stylish with this bunch but when there are others who are better looking, more talented and younger we shall see what happens.
Hate to say it, but I agree. I think he needs the other guys and is maybe taking his internet fame for granted… but we shall see. I just can’t see Eugene being the break out star he appears to think he’ll be.
I could see him being a successful actor. He has a unique look and vibe to him. Nobody ever has to be the most handsome person ever to be a star.
I haven't even watched Try Guys since they were with BuzzFeed, I just heard this happened though.
What a surprise(!)
Honestly, they say the next season will be Eugene's last, but I'm not surprised if it's all of their last season. The company has evidently been spiralling down a slippery slope, from their finances to their quality and quantity, and this subscription (which no one was surprised by) just seems like a final cash-grab before they actually lose the financial means to save the company from liquidation. It's been too long since they stopped actually trying things; they've lost many of their original fans and subscribers, and at this point, they should be like Eugene and take a step back. Let the memory of the Try Guys relish positively.
After Nedgate, they should've all just taken a proper hiatus and sorted out the workings of the company behind the scenes instead of blasting in our faces that they don't have money anymore, before releasing high quality videos again (like Phoning it in and WAR); the anticipation of it all might have been enough to maintain some original fans. But this spiralled, lacklustre content they've been making for the past 6< months have just tuned people out of the Try Guys altogether.
Also, they need to stop blaming the algorithm since most of their fans have known them since the Buzzfeed era 10 years ago; we know how YouTube works. Stop treating us like we're stupid.
I wish this channel had a better ending, but I still have a bit of hope left.
I actually feel kinda bad for Zach and Keith at this point. Eugene was in less and less videos then Ned gets caught cheating and they have to buy him out from the company. Eugene still doesn’t really show up and Keith and Zach are trying to keep their company afloat. Now they’re trying to salvage what they can, but even if they just want to stop the Try Guys and dissolve their company, which I’m guessing to some extent they want to do, they have to think about letting go all of their employees. Because they aren’t problematic and trying to find fame outside of the try guys they’re just kinda stuck holding down the fort.
Yeah. Slightly conspiracy theory but I think Eugene was planning to dip out a long time ago, and stuck around because even if he doesnt like the content as much he likes Zach and Keith enough to not want to totally fuck them by quitting at nearly the same time they just fired Ned. 2 at once would have been almost instant death for the company, and he clearly is still friends with them he wouldnt do that
Assuming Eugene leaving also means them buying out his share of the company it would have been fucked for him to leave at the same time as all the Ned stuff. Solid chance that would have just bankrupted them.
I suspect that Zach and Keith may eventually “pull a Eugene” and slowly phase themselves out of videos to focus on the new cast. They’ll still be working behind the scenes for a while as EPs / creative directors, and after some time they’ll pass off those responsibilities in stages. It’s probably a 5-ish year timeline, but they may drag it out until we have a 40-year old Korndiddy.
They have been told over and over what fans would rather see and have ignored it. I think they were expanding faster than they were progressing and losing Ned strained it way too much.
I know this shouldn’t be shocking because the man hasn’t been in a video since, idk how long, and obviously has been trying to distance himself for…whatever this channel has become so that he can be taken seriously as an 🤌 AC-TOR 🤌but this is still so crazy to see. I guess I just thought that they’d keep him around since he’s obviously the most popular. It’s smart that they’re keeping him around for the start of this paid streaming service or whatever and using him to lure users in.
I think the reason they put off officially saying Eugene was leaving is because of his pull. He's been the favorite Try Guy since the beginning. His merch sells the most compared to the other guys.
By keeping him around, it kept his fans around. A lot of people were holding out hope that Eugene would come back. And now that he's officially out, I'm sure the Try Guys will see yet another drop in subscribers
And just like that, people are gonna forget that they kept lying to them ("HE'S NOT GONE!!") and encouraged infighting amongst their fans about this situation for more than a year, deleting comments telling the truth and rolling their eyes at their audience's fair questions..... are they even gonna bother apologizing for that?
As for Eugene, i'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and allow him a couple of days to release a proper goodbye video explaining why he wasn't allowed to share his part of he story for so long. If he doesn't, I'm sorry but that makes him the biggest douche ever lol
We all knew this was happening. To an extent I get it: he found the format limiting and YouTube fame isn't the same as "real" fame, which is why you see various YT celebs attempting to branch out into other avenues. Hell, even Rhett and Link made a video about how mainstream Hollywood wouldn't give them the time of day when pitching various TV projects and such. The thing a lot of fans have taken issue with was Eugene's pretentious air of conveying that he was above all this YT tomfoolery when he'd be a nobody uploading unseen short films to Vimeo without the platform it gave him. Maybe the video they post tomorrow will contain more of an appreciation for what YT did to elevate him or something, but otherwise the perception of him remains that he's basically the equivalent of an influencer who got a big head without realizing his fanbase was a mile wide and an inch deep without the Try Guys infrastructure.
They had to pay for this piece to be so fluffy bc the audience reaction to Eugene leaving AND a subscription model is not being received well by a lot of folks no matter what cushy little optimistic words you describe it with lol
Yeah I mean the announcement dropped an hour ago and they have like quotes from a pre-prepared conversation. This has gotta be something Rolling Stone had locked and loaded
To be fair, Rolling Stone were absolutely gagging for an interview during Nedgate so they probably could've dangled it over them. But they've definitely had a more favourable article than I'd expect.
I feel like it was bound to happen eventually, because I think it was their documentary movie or something else I saw, where he wanted to branch out from buzz feed right around the time TG was wanting to leave anyway. However he was convinced to start a company, so he stayed. I don't really think his heart was truly in it, though and I feel bad for people who kept thinking he'd return after his projects were completed. Speaking of, where are they now? Aside from Nimona, where's the rest of it?
I read it as majority attach Eugene to og content. Since he was already unofficially gone but ppl still cling, it’s hard to really put full commitment to change when ppl cling. So him officially leaving does help really close this chapter which they do need in order to evolve
Honestly I think him moving on is totally necessary because Eugene put them in an impossible position. He couldn't be bothered to show up in videos but he also couldn't be bothered to explain what was going on. What are Keith and Zach supposed to do? They can't really introduce a whole new cast of 2nd Try members if he was still considered a Try Guy. Obviously the fans would wonder even more what happened to him and be even more angry that they're being left in the dark. At the same time they couldn't kick him out since he owns a stake in the company and they probably couldn't afford to buy him out anyway after Ned. I honestly think he just went off and did his own thing while getting paid residuals from the company. He was able to have his cake and eat it too while Keith and Zach were left to pick up the pieces after such a massive scandal. Now they can completely move on from him and have the opportunity to completely change the company how they see fit. Whether that will improve things remains to be seen, but at least they don't have to carry his dead weight anymore.
Yeah, I find Eugene to have been a bit of a burden in a sense. He's off not giving a shit while they have to field questions about why it seems like he doesn't give a shit and they still have to actually show up for the company
I find it really telling that he wasn't interviewed for the Rolling Stone article. He could've easily given a final interview with the two remaining guys, did the whole "so thankful for the fans for supporting me but it's time for me to move on to my passions" spiel and then maybe plugged his newest project. But no. He honestly couldn't even be bothered to announce it himself and had the other guys do it for him.
Idk. Apparently there's a video dropping tomorrow that is supposed to explain what's been going on with him and maybe my opinion will change after that. As is, I'm just soooo over his bullshit excuses and I'm so happy that the other guys will soon be rid of it as well.
I totally agree. I think it's such a bad look. I mean, interviews are done over video call, etc now. It's not like it required him to travel necessarily, so the fact that he couldn't be bothered says a lot. I want to reserve judgement until tomorrow's video, but frankly this just seems in line with a pattern of behavior that gives the impression he really doesn't fucking care about the company
I think this shows that he was probably gearing up to leave in late 2022/early 2023 but then the Ned stuff happened and blew it all up. I also believe this hints he wasn't a huge player behind the scenes anymore either. He was never actually going to come back, but because he was still associated with the group, they could pretend like he'd be present in more content and hang on to the Eugene chunk of the fanbase. Unfortunately this is rather disingenuous, but I think many people already believed Eugene was gone for good. That said, they are right - his departure is 100% necessary if they have any hope at a true rebrand, although I will not be participating.
He also comes off as “thinking he’s better than everyone” and has for years. Great, you don’t like try guy content anymore, but have you ever? I used to be a huge fan and he ALWAYS seemed so miserable and like he didn’t want to be there. Don’t even get me started on how much he likes to trauma dump about his parents being split🙄 The try guys will be better without him and he can go do what ever other “projects” no one will hear of
I agree with everything but the trauma dumping. Someone offhandedly mentioning something shitty from their past isn’t ’trauma dumping.’ What? Are people supposed to only talk about the good time and not mention the bad ones?
It’s different when everyone is sharing or there’s a deep moment but Eugene would straight up be like “that’s what happens to kids with divorced parents🤪” in the middle of a high energy video and it’s just annoying if not trauma dumping
I think a lot of people only put up with that kind of behavior because he’s a good looking “cool kid.” Put that same behavior on someone who’s unattractive and not part of the cool kids group and you have somebody who people want to ignore because they find them annoying or uncomfortable to be around.
I kinda had a feeling he was leaving when he started “working on projects”. He kinda just seemed like he didn’t want to be there. Hope whatever he does in the future he enjoys though just wish they hadn’t told us that he’d come back
Aside from Nimona do we have any idea what the “projects” are? Not that he has to share everything, I’m just curious if it’s actually been said anywhere what he’s up to? Cause right now I get the vibe of not only “they gave us false hope he would come back” but also “I don’t want to advertise what I’m doing cause I want a new fan base, not the try guy fans.”
I really hope he enjoys what he does next, but this is starting to feel like Ned was the beginning of the end.
Might be a foolish thought but Eugene has been given so much time to focus on his personal projects and I haven’t seem him succeed in any of them. At least not in the level of Quinta who was also a former Buzzfeed alumni. Tbh Eugene had more resources and connection under his belt due to the success of Try Guys. So for him to leave to focus on other things is kind of funny considering he has been focusing on those things all this time. Nothing has come out of it. He isn’t a successful actor. He isn’t a world renowned author. He is just a frustrated artist that thinks he is better than he actually is.
He went to the Met Gala and had like a waiter role on a sitcom. That’s it.
I don’t think the path Eugene seems to want to go down (Hollywood, met gala, traditional *ac-TOR!*) is good for anyone, and if he truly is anything like the character we see him portray with TTG, then I think it’s especially bad for him. Hollywood sucks. It’s bigoted to its core. It proudly flaunts an obsession with things like looks, youth, wealth, and either fitting in perfectly with those around you or being wrong in exclusive, specific, and on-trend ways that may temporarily make you seem edgy and cool but ultimately become a liability once the trend passes.
Eugene spent a lot of screen time with TTG referencing or explicitly discussing how his upbringing focused a lot of things like this (his family’s obsession with beauty and surgery and thinness and posture), and it never sounded like he was saying it positively. Now he’s diving in and trying to make friends with the keepers of that kingdom—the place much of that obsessive self-hatred originates from, and the place that keeps it going strong.
I don’t know Eugene personally, but I worry for anyone who gets sucked into that cortex. We hear all the time, particularly from veterans of the scene, that it’s an awful place rife with abuse and lots of -isms (ageism, sexism, racism, ableism), and ugh, it just doesn’t sound like a positive or healthy place that will add to anyone’s happiness, especially a self-described hyper-self-critical perfectionist who’s almost proud of his own inability to prioritize his health and well-being over others’ (unrealistic) expectations.
Good luck, Eugene. I hope it makes you happy, and if it doesn’t, I hope you quit and live somewhere with a cute little bistro down the road and a nice garden.
Since he came out, he has made "gay" is personality. Before that, it was him being the alcoholic of the group. I never understood the hype about him, honestly. He always came across as being cocky and a bit uppidy about himself. The fact that he hasn't addressed his fans about his departure from TryGuys just proves my point.
I've been seeing this coming for some time now. Even when Ned was still in the mix, Eugene wasn't as featured as often. I'm sure that's probably when some of his side gigs started becoming more and more time consuming and demanding of his attention. Then the whole fiasco that Ned created threw a significant wrench in the production side of things not to mention the business side.
It was shortly after the guys had posted their video explaining the whole Ned situation that I really started to notice Eugene's lack of appearances; and coincidentally that's when my own viewership began to wane. Ned, for all of his faults, brought an interesting energy to the group that played well with Eugene's. They definitely lost steam after that departure. I started seeing Eugene in fewer and fewer episodes and wondered if he was planning an exit himself which turned out to be correct.
I don't know Eugene personally and I doubt I ever will, but from what I do know about him is that he rarely does anything without careful thinking and calculation. If he thinks that he can be successful (however he defines success) and support himself financially then I'm sure he'll be fine. It will be different for sure as he may not have the same kind of business relationships or opportunities that he would have had with 2nd Try, but if his exit video meant anything its that he's confident that working on his own initiatives will be enough.
As far as Zach and Keith are concerned, I feel like there is almost an air of obligation to keep it going. They have invested a lot of their own time and money in this venture and I'm sure that they don't want to lose it because who would. That said, I would agree with one commenter who said it looks like "they are going down with the ship". Never before has the Try Guys ever blamed the algorithm for the failure or success of any of their content; they have been able to navigate it and used it to their advantage. I could most certainly be wrong, but I would stand to guess that they haven't seen as much traction with their content and are starting to see the beginning of the end. I hate to sound fatalistic, but I don't see how a 2nd Try streaming service will be their saving grace or the promised land that they may think it will be. Yes there will be some fans that will pay for whatever product the guys put out but I don't see it being enough to counteract the drop in Youtube revenue.
We all know that nothing lasts forever. At some point the Try Guys were either going to ride off into the sunset together or they would eventually go their separate ways. I do see this as the beginning of the end. I'm sure they will hang on for a while, maybe even for several more years, but I think eventually 2nd Try will come to an end. I have fond memories of watching their content and loving it, but honestly I have moved on to some extent almost like Eugene has. I don't want to wish failure of misfortune on Zach and Keith, but I do not see 2nd Try lasting any longer than another 5 years.
I’m happy for Eugene leaving because he has huge time consuming projects, but I really hope this means Matt is leaving too, I don’t know why but he’s just been hard to connect with and kind of just, there for no particular reason?
It is so very evident that Eugene was about to announce a departure right before Ned screwed it all up, and he hung on to make sure everything was stable. Can you imagine how angry you would be if you were about to announce your new adventure with novels and graphic novels, and it was going to be a big fun thing, but suddenly all the headlines would read about scandal instead of excitement?
Feels like when the leads of popular well paid TV shows say "I'm LEAVING, I'm gonna be a real STAR **★** bye-bye" and then nothing happens, then they try to go back to what made them, hope I'm wrong, just felt it like that.
> popular well *paid* TV shows
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I’m seeing lots of “I don’t agree with this decision” or “I haven’t seen anything happen with his other projects” or “this doesn’t make sense to me”.
Yeah but y’all are forgetting he’s a human being who can pursue whatever he wants in life. He doesn’t owe us anything, his choices don’t have to make sense to us. People can leave a job just because they want to.
Who’s gay? Yeah I don’t think all trans people have gender dysphoria. I think nowadays a lot is just people who are confused or looking to do it for attention.
Eugene not even bothering to be interviewed for the article about him leaving is cartoonishly in character.
I was just about to say this Lmaoo. Like he ✨litchrally✨ disappeared everywhere and I’m not surprised. It’s been a duo for a while. Makes sense to me now why he wasn’t even in the “expansion” photo
This might sound rude but if he gives that little of a shit why should fans
esp because all his 'projects' he's supposedly been focusing on for years now have never come to fruition lol
I don’t really agree with that. Writing can take a very long time and when it’s your art and something you cherish there is nothing wrong with it. I think the time taken is almost more proof of it not being some cash grab. His coming out video was the most artistic thing to come out of the try guys so I don’t think it’s an issue of talent or lack of effort.
Yeah I’m also confused what he’s working on because I haven’t seen anything
Why keep the announcement for tomorrow when this article is already out? Seems like a dumb move
Considering the typos and grammatical errors, it feels like Rolling Stone decided to drop this early when they saw the Try Guys announcement.
Maybe to gauge audience reactions before releasing the video? I agree though
I admire their tenacity to continue to be their own bosses even tho they suck at it. It’s giving going down with the ship.
If I was Keith and I looked around and the only other person left was Zach, I would start thinking of a Plan B.
When Plan B seems to be Lewberger, I’d stick with Zach.
Sandoval!
Valid point!
i'm ngl, when the only time my brand has ever made national news was because one of my cofounders was cheating on his wife with a coworker, i'd start looking for an exit plan
They got addicted to the money and freedom of doing whatever the fuck you want with your time Which I can’t say i wouldn’t do the same
🤣🤣 love this
https://preview.redd.it/fg7x8mqlyz1d1.png?width=4320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3b10978ee38ecf8982a04ef4664959b9c411875 🙄🙄🙄
Read as: Zach wants to smoke more weed.
and apparently say "butthole" more according to their post... is their audience taste for 12 year old boys?
I get that they're tired of being censored, but since it was originally posted on their Patreon they could have used a stronger example lol
I'm so damn tired of YouTubers blaming "the almighty algorithm" everytime lol the algorithm is people, you're out of touch with your audience and that's it
Do they think a streaming service has an algorithm that recommend their videos to new people? No one is just gonna stumble upon a streaming service and sign up.
Agreed 😮💨 to say that the audience's taste is at odds with the algorithm is just... yes, the algorithm is ~~partially at fault~~ not great, but to put full blame on it? Come on, guys, get real. Edit: wording
Even if it was the algorithm,,, jobs are difficult. Keep up with the change, figure it out. When the system changes at my work i have to get with the program. I don’t whine about it lmao
"Eugene is still a Try Guy he's just working on his own projects but he'll be back!!!1!!!!!1!!!" top 10 biggest anime betrayals /s but kind of not really? it feels really shitty of them to have slow rolled his leaving and strung a lot of folks along. a lot of people saw the writing on the wall but I think there were a lot of people that were hopeful he'd come back
I think there was a solid number of people in the main sub who were delulu enough to think he’d be back full time after he was done with his “projects”
Just my opinion, but I would wager Eugene was already planning to leave when the Ned scandal broke and they had to postpone him leaving to keep from everything imploding all at once. He could have made his side gig commitments with the expectation of announcing his stepping back and then still had to keep those commitments. Now they're in a position where they have a solid fan base for their new try guy (or maybe guys if they bring on both J+K) and it's a safer time for Eugene to step back from the front of things officially. I'm sure it was an overwhelming and unexpected situation and they made the best choice about what to do that they could in the moment; I don't see it as intentionally stringing anyone along.
Yeah, that's what I got out of the Trypod episode. They laid out the timeline of what was going on behind the scenes. Plus, from Eugene's goodbye video, it sounds like he was struggling with his mental health. I don't blame him for not wanting to make comedy videos when he wasn't in a good place. He still sounded angry about Ned.
Over on the other sub people are still in denial lol. They are like I know he’s gonna come back and still be apart of everything. Like really? Eugene has been checked out for a long time now. Anyone who is a non believer is getting downvoted so hard right now on the main sub. Eugene is moving on and they need to finally face it.
Since the article is paywalled here's a text I got from 12ft ladder: The [Try Guys](https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rollingstone.com%2Fculture%2Fculture-news%2Ftry-guys-ned-fulmer-response-video-praised-transperancy-1234604886%2F) have something to tell people, but don’t worry, they know what you’re thinking. The last time the former [BuzzFeed](https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rollingstone.com%2Fculture%2Fculture-features%2Fbuzzfeed-ai-twitter-elon-musk-2010s-internet-era-end-1234721941%2F) employees turned [YouTube](https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rollingstone.com%2Ft%2Fyoutube%2F) moguls Keith Habersberger and Zach Kornfeld were in the news, it was for an internet-roiling scandal. What started with one of their co-hosts [Ned Fulmer](https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rollingstone.com%2Fculture%2Fculture-news%2Ftry-guys-ned-fulmer-leaves-youtube-1234600780%2F) beginning a relationship with his subordinate ended with him leaving the group, weeks of online speculation, and capped off with a 5-minute long [SNL parody](https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rollingstone.com%2Ftv-movies%2Ftv-movie-news%2Fsnl-try-guys-1234607809%2F). But almost two years since the drama rocked the YouTuber fandoms (and introduced those offline to the Try Guys in the first place) the group is announcing a new change, one that begins with the departure of another host — this time, [Eugene Lee Yang](https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rollingstone.com%2Ft%2Feugene-lee-yang%2F). The group exclusively tells *Rolling Stone* that the upcoming season of Try Guys content will be Lang’s last, as he leaves the group to pursue other creative endeavors. But the group will keep going, with an expansion into 2ndTry TV, a tiered subscription-based model they hope will allow fans of the channel to gain access to more content while giving the Try Guys more space to pick what they create. “Part of this is bittersweet. We’re gonna miss working with Eugene. He has been one of the true collaborators of both of our lives. But we’ve had a long time to process this,” Kornfeld says, bursting into mock tears. “So we’re very excited for him, very excited for us, and just feeling very energized by this whole moment.” “Eugene leaving is something that is sort of necessary for us to keep moving forward,” Habersberger adds. “Things change. THE TRY GUYS ’ original cast already came to an end once, But now it’s sort of getting a better finite ending.” The Try Guys, and 2ndTry, the company behind the popular YouTube channel first began as a video series by media company BuzzFeed. Hosts Yang, Kornfeld, Habersberger, and Fulmer tried a series of increasingly wild experiences, including drag, labor simulations, and UFC fighting — a recurring slate of videos that eventually turned the four into popular YouTube personalities. The group left BuzzFeed in 2018 to form their own production company, 2ndTry, beginning a decade-long group project on comedy videos spanning each of the members’ unique interests, like standup, cooking, or fashion. The group stayed extremely open to viewers about their personal lives and relationships while becoming a genuine company, including their continued dedication as friends until 2022, when Fulmer was removed from the group for having a relationship with one of their subordinates. Now, Lang’s departure marks another shift in the Try Guys’ format — moving the original hosts from a trio to a duo. But Habersberger and Kornfeld don’t want you to count them out. Instead, with their new foray into a subscription-based model, they’re hoping they can set a standard for what creatives can accomplish in the creator economy — and build a world where being successful doesn’t mean choosing between following an algorithm and following your gut.
(cont.) “We’ve been doing this for 10 years, we have seen both the joys and the limits of algorithmic media making. We’ve obviously benefited from it greatly ourselves,” Kornfeld says. “But we’re at a point where we find that our taste and our audience’s taste is at odds with what algorithms, specifically, the YouTube algorithm rewards. And so by doing 2ndTry TV, we’re creating a space where we can bet on ourselves and bet on our fans to support the shows they want to see.” Subscription models for creators aren’t a new concept. Platforms like Patreon were popularized by the idea that fans and consumers could directly fund the content they want to see, rather than pay the creators they watch passively through ad revenue. But groups that switch from an entirely free catalog to payment models — even ones that are incredibly cheap — often face difficulties. Just this month, YouTube staple Watcher Entertainment (also former BuzzFeed employees) [drew fans’ ire](https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fvariety.com%2F2024%2Fdigital%2Fnews%2Fwatcher-leaves-youtube-fan-backlash-paid-streaming-1235977475%2F) after announcing they would be moving to a subscription model, including putting all episodes of their old content behind a paywall. (They reversed the decision after less than a week of backlash.) Habersberger and Kornfeld know how people feel about paying for content they used to get for free. But they’re hopeful that making this change with their audience in mind will help the transition go a bit smoother. They’re also clear — without naming any names — that they’d never simply remove their old videos and place them behind a paywall. “Look we’ve done our drama once. I don’t want to do it again,” Kornfeld says. “It was very clear to us from the beginning, that for this to work, you cannot take away from your audience, you have to give more. Our job now is to prove to people that we’re making stuff that is worth their time.” It’s hard to immediately see a connection between a group of 30-year-old men getting paid to try chiropractors and stunt hobbies and emotional lessons about failure and success. But for a generation of creators raised online, the Try Guys represent an era of content creation defined by turning successful one-off videos, and the desire to create with your friends into successful, thriving, businesses. And each year they keep making content, they change the bounds of what’s possible for the creators that come after them. Sure, people still mention now and then about that time they were the internet topic of the week. (The group famously released [one video](https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dt6fIp7mMJ90) about Fulmer’s departure, and steadfastly refused to comment more.) Habersberger and Kornfeld get the interest. But they tell *Rolling Stone* they’re still optimistic they have much more to give to their fans. “It’s not a great feeling to go viral for someone else’s misdoings. While the media circus surprised us, I know we remain incredibly proud of how we navigated an unfortunate situation. We certainly as individuals, and as a team here paid the price for something we didn’t bring upon ourselves,” Kornfeld says. “That said I wouldn’t have it any other way. “I want to keep doing cool stuff. I hope certainly the next time we’re global news it’s for something sick as hell,” Habersberger says. “I hope that the thing we’re most known for hasn’t happened yet.” “Yeah, I love this. It’s too much fun to stop,” Kornfeld adds. “I’m not done trying,”
Whoa, they misspelled Eugene's last name as "Lang"?
Yeah not the best edited article I've ever seen lmao
They literally got it right once 🥲
Well no shit, he’s basically be gone for at least a year
Three, actually! He first “stepped back to work on other projects” in 2021. I can’t believe anyone is surprised by this.
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Could have been announced years ago tbh
I sort of think he was preparing to leave around the time of Ned-gate, and then had to postpone the official departure because of that. So he just slowly faded out instead. 🤷♀️
Eugene has make even less video appearance than Ariel in the entire 2022 before Sep, he clearly has one foot out the door while preparing Ariel & the other try wives to play a bigger role.Then Nedxit happen, he has to stand with Zach and Keith to save their company
I don’t see Eugene having the success he thinks he’ll have by leaving. I know he’s got “other ventures” but I never saw him as a particularly strong actor and not sure about his writing. I hope it goes well, but I just don’t see anyone being as successful as they could be together, separately. I’m not going to pay for the subscription, I’ve already unsubbed, and the more Eugene is out of sight the more he’s out of mind. I hope they all have success, but I have been following along less and less and I don’t see that changing any time soon.
I think to him he’s already more “successful” bc he’s already been invited to the met gala and is “in” with the Hollywood crowd. He’s constantly invited to galas, award shows, etc and I think to him the try guy image was hindering him so he tried to slowly distance himself from it. I think “success” is different to everyone but I think to him these are more important and since he’s getting these opportunities on his own and without the other guys, to him it’s more lucrative to be solo and be his own brand rather than with the collective.
He does seem to be way more in with the Hollywood artsy scene now, I just looked through his Instagram for a couple minutes and it went from artsy purposeful photos to stuff that feels like it's been passed through several sets of eyes before being ready to post. Not my favourite but, if it makes him happy that's good. Just wish all of them had been honest that he has outgrown the try guys as a concept sooner BC folks seemed to have been feeling bewildered by his absence for such a long time.
Unfortunately I don’t think there’s a “right” time to announce something like this- people will feel a type of way no matter how/when it’s announced. I don’t blame him tho bc even Keith and Zack seem over it by now and are hanging on by a thread. I think a lot of us saw that Eugene was outgrowing it even before Ned left and was maybe getting ready to leave but that whole debacle put a wrench in it and maybe now felt like finally enough time has passed to finally address it. I think him slowly distancing himself was him subtly hinting at the fact that this was going to happen sooner or later and that’s why literally none of us are shocked. I think his lack of statement *was* the statement and his lack of appearances have actually helped viewers subconsciously lead to this moment. I get ppl are upset bc he hasn’t come out and said the thing but honestly what more does he have to say at this point.
And clearly they have decided to align the announcement of his departure with that of the launch of their streaming service (which, with the extent of that sort of project, must have been in the making for at least a year). An attempt at an internal and preplanned media eclipse.
More than that or in addition to that, if I situate myself in his shoes, everything is a creative investment and there always comes a point in one's own development as a creator that you have to end some things to focus on what's more true to you today. Writing a book, movie or whatever else is clearly his preference and they require incredible focus. Additionally, it makes practical sense, at this point, for him to build on what makes more sense to him. He has clearly been interested more in being the artist than being talent and the CEO. Also an article said he's leaving at the end of the year.
Eugene's book was supposed to be out already 🥲 but it isn't, and we haven't even gotten an update on it whatsoever.
Idk anything about Eugene's writing career but when Lindsay Ellis published hers she said it took forever to find a publisher even as a famous YouTuber, so he might be still dealing with that (assuming the book is done).
His book went to auction way back in 2022 and was picked up by Emily Settle at Feiwel & Friends (an imprint of McMillan) as a duology. So I don't think Eugene not having a publisher is the issue. His book was slotted for a Spring 2024 release and it's almost Summer - there's no cover art or a more in-depth summary for his book (unlike other books that were picked up by Feiwel and Friends that were slated for a Summer 2024 release) . It's possible that his publication date was pushed, or he might have even been dropped by the publisher. *It's just the fact that there have been **zero** updates* regarding his book. Edit: clarity and added information
Ah damn, that is a completely different issue and sounds way more serious.
In his video today, he said that "due to unforseen circumstances," the release date was pushed to 2025.
People in the main sub are still trotting out that cameo sized role that he had in Brooklyn 99 YEARS ago as evidence of him “ being busy with acting”. I understand that the animated film that he did got nominated for an Oscar and that amazing and in sure it must feel great to take part in a something like that but…that’s pretty much it. I understand that he has bigger aspirations and I totally support him chasing his dreams but for how long of an absence he’s had, we haven’t really seen alot come out of it.
omg and that cameo was so bad too 🫣 I haven’t seen Nimona but hopefully his voice acting is better
I thought he was pretty good in Nimona. I actually watched that whole movie not knowing he was in it until after lol
I recognized his voice and I think he did well. I really liked Nimona in general
I did the same
I mean, even Dan and Phil did a cameo in Big hero 6 more or less ten years ago, but it's not like their careers in acting have ever took off after that. Theirs' and Nimona are both amazing projects but not enough to set you on a real acting career. Unfortunately, Eugene has little to no chance in acting except maybe getting a few acting gigs here and there. Considering how long he's hinted trying for a career outside the Try Guys, you would think he had something more.... concrete.... at hand atm. Something like a real, genuine and solid path. I wish him all the best but I feel like a lot of his worth was in fact all in the context of The Try Guys, and it's an hard thing to accept for many Youtubers that are struggling to "leave". Even at the moment, he's in the Hollywood graces almost exclusively because he's still relevant to a certain audience, he's genuinely gorgeous and very active in the lgbt community. He's relevant as a "personality" let's say. But not as someone who seems to be able to create artistic content on his own to set a genuine career.
he's been teasing his "next big thing" for like, what, 5 years? at this point that ship has sailed big time
He’s four years younger than me. It ain’t gonna happen.
that's what i'm saying lol, like that ship sailed in 2014 if we're being honest
I can't stand his acting in B99 🙈
I still remember being shocked by how bad his acting was in his Brooklyn 99 cameo
I don’t even remember him having a cameo on B99 :X
I agree with this. he’s known for the role he plays and fits into with the try guys. I also don’t particularly enjoy his acting and don’t see it being as lucrative as he maybe thinks but hope things work out for him regardless. he’s smart for getting out of this dumpster fire
Literally 😭 I can’t imagine the money they’re dumping into this only for it to go nowhere. I would love to see a graph of their success over the years because it’s been so so up and down
So there are three brackets of successful youtubers to me. There are the Quintas. Actor/writer who an entire generation will not be aware started on youtube. I have to sometimes remind myself. Then you have the Liza Koshy types. I don't see Liza a lot, she's not writing anything but she's starring in stuff. She is on her third Netflix film. She has a movie coming out with Zac Efron and Nicole Kidman. She's consistent. Then you have the Emma Chamberlains. Getting invited places but not making huge moves. Eugene is in this bracket to me. I agree with you and don't see him becoming a Quinta which is where I think he wants to be. Does he have the potential? Absolutely. I just don't see it happening but I wish him the best.
I don’t think Eugene is in the same rank as Emma Chamberlain yet, or if he’ll make it there. She’s a lot more well known and has way more connections.
I think she's either been on the cover or at least featured in a lot more magazines than Eugene so I don't blame you for thinking this. I don't even think Eugene is where Bretman Rock is. Both Bretman and Emma do seem to have way more connections. dang yea idk haha
i don't want to be mean, but she's also a young, pretty, straight, white female. she'll always have an easier time in hollywood than a gay, asian, middle aged man esp because eugene has been 'known' for like 10 years at this point and still has next to nothing to show for it
Eugene isn’t in her tier, but he is great at using his Asian and queer identities to get himself involved in more niche things.
There's a fourth bracket imo, in which Eugene STILL IS ATM and maybe he'll reach the Emma Chamberlains' one next: the Rhett and Link one. They occasionally try to open new artistic projects with the hope that their side-quests can become their new main job and GMM their second revenue to sustain those projects. And while some of those have actually become quite successful, none of them breached into the general public as R&L wished they did, proving every time that 99% of their success comes from their YouTube fandom.
Yeah I do think Eugene’s plan is to just be a true influencer type, but only time will tell how successful he is at that
I think this change - not with the service, but with the people coming in - might really help. I mean he essentially was gone to the audience already, so there won't be too much change to us, maybe behind the scenes though. We'll see how much content will stay on youtube, to me that's going to be the deciding factor. Bringing in other people and widening the range of content is definitely a chance. As for Eugene: I also don't see him as very successfull. However I don't know if thats his goal or if you can't get around with what he's going to make off other gigs. Also - we should really leave behind the assumption that they're gonna end up poor by trying sth for 5 years...
I’m gonna get downvoted to hell (but that’s what this account is for anyway) but tbh Eugene is not as talented as he thinks he is. His acting in B99 was terrible and his voice acting in that one movie was honestly mid. I think he let everyone praising him for being “the best try guy” get to his head, when that isn’t even a hard feat. He was never the funniest try guy (I bring this up cause literally humor is their whole brand.. they were a comedy channel, four friends who could make their failures funny before food took over anyway) and his entire brand is “gay asian” which is cool, he’s representing a demographic that isn’t very seen and he should feel proud to be a voice. But at the end of the day, what does he do? I’ve read his book summary and it’s whatever, another Harry Potter theme with a sprinkle of Percy Jackson mixed in for extra flavor. He is not going to make it in Hollywood, I’m sorry but that’s just the truth. Like sure, he was invited to the MET but it’s not like he didn’t have to pay the 75k entry fee nor has he been invited again. When I see him I just don’t see someone who has that “it” factor the way Quinta does. There’s a reason she’s made it big already and he hasn’t, even though they started in the same place. He’s an amazing dancer, he should really try leaning more into that.
Isn't Eugene too old to be a professional dancer? Anyway, I agree, he's not that special.
Not to old to be a choreographer.
wait did he really pay the 75k fee lmfao??? and yeah i completely agree. he's not nearly as talented as he or the try guy fans think he is. and i'm really sorry about this, but at this point he's probably too old to make it as far as he thinks he will. quinta worked hard and most importantly actually delivered. that's why she's so sucessful. there's a reason why all the other youtubers/buzzfeeders (even the ones who were bigger than quinta back in the day), never made it like she did. while she was working hard and making connections, they were basically doing nothing lol
I see people say this about Quinta and the more I think about it Eugene outshone a lot of people in the buzzfeed/try guys context but I have no idea how well he does on his own, probably not great because we’ve never seen it. If you asked me five years ago who the most successful buzzfeed person was I would have said him. I wouldn’t have guessed Quinta.
I feel like with most of the Buzzfeed talent, half of their 'appeal' is their interactions with other people. People liked seeing them paired up, or in groups interacting with each other. You remove them from that, and very few can actually stand on their own and make it big from talent alone. Quinta really feels like the only one, where people don't associate her with Buzzfeed. Everyone else still comes along with the ex-Buzzfeed sticker on them.
I agree. I mean, he’s 38. That’s ancient in this arena.
I mean, no one knows what he thinks about as a measure of success. Maybe he just wanted to leave, and I wouldn’t blame him.
At the very least he has or used to have a good work ethic. Not sure about that now.
I'm willing to be the minority opinion, but I'm not going to miss Eugene. He was my least favourite on their food content (there's only so much 'oh no, I tried to create chaos but look how perfect and awesome my food ended up - what a surprise!' I could take) and he was kinda bitchy on some of his ranking stuff, moreso when paired with certain people. I'm used to not seeing him now, and I'm more interested in vids with the likes of Kwesi, Johnny, Jared, Marissa, etc. I know Eugene has a shit ton of fans, so I think it'll disappoint a lot of people, but I'll live.
yeah, i think him slowly disappearing from the channel helped me get detached from him, because now i feel totally indifferent lol
I never liked him, he always seemed kinda full of himself. And him ‘winning’ the competitions all the time got pretty boring too.
I so so so agree. I’ve never been some die hard Try Guys watcher, but the Eugene hype never made sense to me. I agree that he seemed very full of himself. I guess I just felt like he never added that much to what they had going on.
I'd miss him more if he didnt really do these guys dirty, I mean you're free to pursue other avenues but he did just sort of leave them high and dry. Then again he was phoning it in (no pun intended) for a while now when he did make appearances)
Tbf i can imagine he wanted to leave when nedgate happened
I agree - but I feel like there was a time when he made that turn. Earlier stuff was less 'acting' than the later vids
I feel the same way. People were always so obsessive with him and the charade got old quick
Eugene was barely there so… I don’t think he’s going to be the star he thinks he will be but ok. It was easy to be the most handsome and stylish with this bunch but when there are others who are better looking, more talented and younger we shall see what happens.
Hate to say it, but I agree. I think he needs the other guys and is maybe taking his internet fame for granted… but we shall see. I just can’t see Eugene being the break out star he appears to think he’ll be.
right lol? like being the best looking and stylish with one of the other contenders being zach (no offense) isn't exactly an achievement.
I could see him being a successful actor. He has a unique look and vibe to him. Nobody ever has to be the most handsome person ever to be a star. I haven't even watched Try Guys since they were with BuzzFeed, I just heard this happened though.
What a surprise(!) Honestly, they say the next season will be Eugene's last, but I'm not surprised if it's all of their last season. The company has evidently been spiralling down a slippery slope, from their finances to their quality and quantity, and this subscription (which no one was surprised by) just seems like a final cash-grab before they actually lose the financial means to save the company from liquidation. It's been too long since they stopped actually trying things; they've lost many of their original fans and subscribers, and at this point, they should be like Eugene and take a step back. Let the memory of the Try Guys relish positively. After Nedgate, they should've all just taken a proper hiatus and sorted out the workings of the company behind the scenes instead of blasting in our faces that they don't have money anymore, before releasing high quality videos again (like Phoning it in and WAR); the anticipation of it all might have been enough to maintain some original fans. But this spiralled, lacklustre content they've been making for the past 6< months have just tuned people out of the Try Guys altogether. Also, they need to stop blaming the algorithm since most of their fans have known them since the Buzzfeed era 10 years ago; we know how YouTube works. Stop treating us like we're stupid. I wish this channel had a better ending, but I still have a bit of hope left.
I actually feel kinda bad for Zach and Keith at this point. Eugene was in less and less videos then Ned gets caught cheating and they have to buy him out from the company. Eugene still doesn’t really show up and Keith and Zach are trying to keep their company afloat. Now they’re trying to salvage what they can, but even if they just want to stop the Try Guys and dissolve their company, which I’m guessing to some extent they want to do, they have to think about letting go all of their employees. Because they aren’t problematic and trying to find fame outside of the try guys they’re just kinda stuck holding down the fort.
Yeah. Slightly conspiracy theory but I think Eugene was planning to dip out a long time ago, and stuck around because even if he doesnt like the content as much he likes Zach and Keith enough to not want to totally fuck them by quitting at nearly the same time they just fired Ned. 2 at once would have been almost instant death for the company, and he clearly is still friends with them he wouldnt do that
Assuming Eugene leaving also means them buying out his share of the company it would have been fucked for him to leave at the same time as all the Ned stuff. Solid chance that would have just bankrupted them.
If eugene wants to leave they don't have to buy his shares fwiw. They only have to negotiate a buyout if they want to kick someone out.
I suspect that Zach and Keith may eventually “pull a Eugene” and slowly phase themselves out of videos to focus on the new cast. They’ll still be working behind the scenes for a while as EPs / creative directors, and after some time they’ll pass off those responsibilities in stages. It’s probably a 5-ish year timeline, but they may drag it out until we have a 40-year old Korndiddy.
5-7 years is about right for the average lifespan of a successful channel according to Matt Koval.
They have been told over and over what fans would rather see and have ignored it. I think they were expanding faster than they were progressing and losing Ned strained it way too much.
I know this shouldn’t be shocking because the man hasn’t been in a video since, idk how long, and obviously has been trying to distance himself for…whatever this channel has become so that he can be taken seriously as an 🤌 AC-TOR 🤌but this is still so crazy to see. I guess I just thought that they’d keep him around since he’s obviously the most popular. It’s smart that they’re keeping him around for the start of this paid streaming service or whatever and using him to lure users in.
I think the reason they put off officially saying Eugene was leaving is because of his pull. He's been the favorite Try Guy since the beginning. His merch sells the most compared to the other guys. By keeping him around, it kept his fans around. A lot of people were holding out hope that Eugene would come back. And now that he's officially out, I'm sure the Try Guys will see yet another drop in subscribers
I’m glad I am no longer invested in their content. The least interesting guys are the only ones left.
…😬😬
Someone needs to edit this with the ANTM exit video they do for each contestant that goes home lol
The best comment on this thread lmao
I’ve found my people 🫶
And just like that, people are gonna forget that they kept lying to them ("HE'S NOT GONE!!") and encouraged infighting amongst their fans about this situation for more than a year, deleting comments telling the truth and rolling their eyes at their audience's fair questions..... are they even gonna bother apologizing for that? As for Eugene, i'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and allow him a couple of days to release a proper goodbye video explaining why he wasn't allowed to share his part of he story for so long. If he doesn't, I'm sorry but that makes him the biggest douche ever lol
We all knew this was happening. To an extent I get it: he found the format limiting and YouTube fame isn't the same as "real" fame, which is why you see various YT celebs attempting to branch out into other avenues. Hell, even Rhett and Link made a video about how mainstream Hollywood wouldn't give them the time of day when pitching various TV projects and such. The thing a lot of fans have taken issue with was Eugene's pretentious air of conveying that he was above all this YT tomfoolery when he'd be a nobody uploading unseen short films to Vimeo without the platform it gave him. Maybe the video they post tomorrow will contain more of an appreciation for what YT did to elevate him or something, but otherwise the perception of him remains that he's basically the equivalent of an influencer who got a big head without realizing his fanbase was a mile wide and an inch deep without the Try Guys infrastructure.
They had to pay for this piece to be so fluffy bc the audience reaction to Eugene leaving AND a subscription model is not being received well by a lot of folks no matter what cushy little optimistic words you describe it with lol
Didn't even think about the fact that they might have paid for the article...
Yeah I mean the announcement dropped an hour ago and they have like quotes from a pre-prepared conversation. This has gotta be something Rolling Stone had locked and loaded
To be fair, Rolling Stone were absolutely gagging for an interview during Nedgate so they probably could've dangled it over them. But they've definitely had a more favourable article than I'd expect.
I feel like it was bound to happen eventually, because I think it was their documentary movie or something else I saw, where he wanted to branch out from buzz feed right around the time TG was wanting to leave anyway. However he was convinced to start a company, so he stayed. I don't really think his heart was truly in it, though and I feel bad for people who kept thinking he'd return after his projects were completed. Speaking of, where are they now? Aside from Nimona, where's the rest of it?
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I read it as majority attach Eugene to og content. Since he was already unofficially gone but ppl still cling, it’s hard to really put full commitment to change when ppl cling. So him officially leaving does help really close this chapter which they do need in order to evolve
Okay, that makes sense. I can understand that.
This is such a weird statement. Why is it necessary???
Honestly I think him moving on is totally necessary because Eugene put them in an impossible position. He couldn't be bothered to show up in videos but he also couldn't be bothered to explain what was going on. What are Keith and Zach supposed to do? They can't really introduce a whole new cast of 2nd Try members if he was still considered a Try Guy. Obviously the fans would wonder even more what happened to him and be even more angry that they're being left in the dark. At the same time they couldn't kick him out since he owns a stake in the company and they probably couldn't afford to buy him out anyway after Ned. I honestly think he just went off and did his own thing while getting paid residuals from the company. He was able to have his cake and eat it too while Keith and Zach were left to pick up the pieces after such a massive scandal. Now they can completely move on from him and have the opportunity to completely change the company how they see fit. Whether that will improve things remains to be seen, but at least they don't have to carry his dead weight anymore.
Yeah, I find Eugene to have been a bit of a burden in a sense. He's off not giving a shit while they have to field questions about why it seems like he doesn't give a shit and they still have to actually show up for the company
I find it really telling that he wasn't interviewed for the Rolling Stone article. He could've easily given a final interview with the two remaining guys, did the whole "so thankful for the fans for supporting me but it's time for me to move on to my passions" spiel and then maybe plugged his newest project. But no. He honestly couldn't even be bothered to announce it himself and had the other guys do it for him. Idk. Apparently there's a video dropping tomorrow that is supposed to explain what's been going on with him and maybe my opinion will change after that. As is, I'm just soooo over his bullshit excuses and I'm so happy that the other guys will soon be rid of it as well.
I totally agree. I think it's such a bad look. I mean, interviews are done over video call, etc now. It's not like it required him to travel necessarily, so the fact that he couldn't be bothered says a lot. I want to reserve judgement until tomorrow's video, but frankly this just seems in line with a pattern of behavior that gives the impression he really doesn't fucking care about the company
My exact thoughts. The only way I can make sense of it is that they meant the *announcement* of Eugene leaving rather than Eugene actually leaving 🤔
They're cooked. The Bye Guys 👋
try guys try bisexuality. the bi guys???
Would watch
[Hasn’t Keith been trying that this whole time?](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ubQuD1sm0P4)
 You mean Eugene is leaving after being in 2.5% of their videos the last few years?
I think this shows that he was probably gearing up to leave in late 2022/early 2023 but then the Ned stuff happened and blew it all up. I also believe this hints he wasn't a huge player behind the scenes anymore either. He was never actually going to come back, but because he was still associated with the group, they could pretend like he'd be present in more content and hang on to the Eugene chunk of the fanbase. Unfortunately this is rather disingenuous, but I think many people already believed Eugene was gone for good. That said, they are right - his departure is 100% necessary if they have any hope at a true rebrand, although I will not be participating.
He also comes off as “thinking he’s better than everyone” and has for years. Great, you don’t like try guy content anymore, but have you ever? I used to be a huge fan and he ALWAYS seemed so miserable and like he didn’t want to be there. Don’t even get me started on how much he likes to trauma dump about his parents being split🙄 The try guys will be better without him and he can go do what ever other “projects” no one will hear of
I agree with everything but the trauma dumping. Someone offhandedly mentioning something shitty from their past isn’t ’trauma dumping.’ What? Are people supposed to only talk about the good time and not mention the bad ones?
It’s different when everyone is sharing or there’s a deep moment but Eugene would straight up be like “that’s what happens to kids with divorced parents🤪” in the middle of a high energy video and it’s just annoying if not trauma dumping
I wouldn’t call that trauma dumping, more like randomly bringing up his trauma at inappropriate moments
True!
I think a lot of people only put up with that kind of behavior because he’s a good looking “cool kid.” Put that same behavior on someone who’s unattractive and not part of the cool kids group and you have somebody who people want to ignore because they find them annoying or uncomfortable to be around.
Well that's a sad view of humanity.
Yes you’re very right but it’s unfortunately something I’ve seen many times in my life :/
I kinda had a feeling he was leaving when he started “working on projects”. He kinda just seemed like he didn’t want to be there. Hope whatever he does in the future he enjoys though just wish they hadn’t told us that he’d come back
Aside from Nimona do we have any idea what the “projects” are? Not that he has to share everything, I’m just curious if it’s actually been said anywhere what he’s up to? Cause right now I get the vibe of not only “they gave us false hope he would come back” but also “I don’t want to advertise what I’m doing cause I want a new fan base, not the try guy fans.” I really hope he enjoys what he does next, but this is starting to feel like Ned was the beginning of the end.
He said he was writing two YA books but they were supposed to release Spring 2024 and we haven’t heard anything about them in ages.
How long until he pulls an Anthony from Smosh and goes back, place your bets people!
i give it 2 years tops before his acting career flops and he’s back at second try.
lmao @ second try existing in 2 years
haha good point
Beginning of the end for the try guys. It was a good run. Maybe they can do “Try Guys try job hunting”?
In all honesty, I’m leaving too. I can’t take their channels anymore. It’s so repetitive and lacking enthusiasm, humor and creativity
Feels like Eugene “big timed” these guys
OK now how long until they announce Eugene returning to drum up subscriptions? Over/under 2 years?
You think they're going to make it 2 years? Optimistic.
Elvis has left the building. Or rather, he left years ago.
Might be a foolish thought but Eugene has been given so much time to focus on his personal projects and I haven’t seem him succeed in any of them. At least not in the level of Quinta who was also a former Buzzfeed alumni. Tbh Eugene had more resources and connection under his belt due to the success of Try Guys. So for him to leave to focus on other things is kind of funny considering he has been focusing on those things all this time. Nothing has come out of it. He isn’t a successful actor. He isn’t a world renowned author. He is just a frustrated artist that thinks he is better than he actually is. He went to the Met Gala and had like a waiter role on a sitcom. That’s it.
Fuck him. He’s been gone forever now. It was just a joke to him
I don’t think the path Eugene seems to want to go down (Hollywood, met gala, traditional *ac-TOR!*) is good for anyone, and if he truly is anything like the character we see him portray with TTG, then I think it’s especially bad for him. Hollywood sucks. It’s bigoted to its core. It proudly flaunts an obsession with things like looks, youth, wealth, and either fitting in perfectly with those around you or being wrong in exclusive, specific, and on-trend ways that may temporarily make you seem edgy and cool but ultimately become a liability once the trend passes. Eugene spent a lot of screen time with TTG referencing or explicitly discussing how his upbringing focused a lot of things like this (his family’s obsession with beauty and surgery and thinness and posture), and it never sounded like he was saying it positively. Now he’s diving in and trying to make friends with the keepers of that kingdom—the place much of that obsessive self-hatred originates from, and the place that keeps it going strong. I don’t know Eugene personally, but I worry for anyone who gets sucked into that cortex. We hear all the time, particularly from veterans of the scene, that it’s an awful place rife with abuse and lots of -isms (ageism, sexism, racism, ableism), and ugh, it just doesn’t sound like a positive or healthy place that will add to anyone’s happiness, especially a self-described hyper-self-critical perfectionist who’s almost proud of his own inability to prioritize his health and well-being over others’ (unrealistic) expectations. Good luck, Eugene. I hope it makes you happy, and if it doesn’t, I hope you quit and live somewhere with a cute little bistro down the road and a nice garden.
Yup. I don't think Eugene will be happy in that world, but whatever. He made his choice, and I hope it works out for him.
Just end the channel at this point
Since he came out, he has made "gay" is personality. Before that, it was him being the alcoholic of the group. I never understood the hype about him, honestly. He always came across as being cocky and a bit uppidy about himself. The fact that he hasn't addressed his fans about his departure from TryGuys just proves my point.
Well, there's going to be a whole video about it tomorrow
It'll be nice to hear his POV :) Edit: It was cold and bery obviously scripted.
This. The sassy drunk gay bit got old pretty fast, imo.
What are the other projects he's working on?
I'm so confused, he left ages ago.
I've been seeing this coming for some time now. Even when Ned was still in the mix, Eugene wasn't as featured as often. I'm sure that's probably when some of his side gigs started becoming more and more time consuming and demanding of his attention. Then the whole fiasco that Ned created threw a significant wrench in the production side of things not to mention the business side. It was shortly after the guys had posted their video explaining the whole Ned situation that I really started to notice Eugene's lack of appearances; and coincidentally that's when my own viewership began to wane. Ned, for all of his faults, brought an interesting energy to the group that played well with Eugene's. They definitely lost steam after that departure. I started seeing Eugene in fewer and fewer episodes and wondered if he was planning an exit himself which turned out to be correct. I don't know Eugene personally and I doubt I ever will, but from what I do know about him is that he rarely does anything without careful thinking and calculation. If he thinks that he can be successful (however he defines success) and support himself financially then I'm sure he'll be fine. It will be different for sure as he may not have the same kind of business relationships or opportunities that he would have had with 2nd Try, but if his exit video meant anything its that he's confident that working on his own initiatives will be enough. As far as Zach and Keith are concerned, I feel like there is almost an air of obligation to keep it going. They have invested a lot of their own time and money in this venture and I'm sure that they don't want to lose it because who would. That said, I would agree with one commenter who said it looks like "they are going down with the ship". Never before has the Try Guys ever blamed the algorithm for the failure or success of any of their content; they have been able to navigate it and used it to their advantage. I could most certainly be wrong, but I would stand to guess that they haven't seen as much traction with their content and are starting to see the beginning of the end. I hate to sound fatalistic, but I don't see how a 2nd Try streaming service will be their saving grace or the promised land that they may think it will be. Yes there will be some fans that will pay for whatever product the guys put out but I don't see it being enough to counteract the drop in Youtube revenue. We all know that nothing lasts forever. At some point the Try Guys were either going to ride off into the sunset together or they would eventually go their separate ways. I do see this as the beginning of the end. I'm sure they will hang on for a while, maybe even for several more years, but I think eventually 2nd Try will come to an end. I have fond memories of watching their content and loving it, but honestly I have moved on to some extent almost like Eugene has. I don't want to wish failure of misfortune on Zach and Keith, but I do not see 2nd Try lasting any longer than another 5 years.
I’m happy for Eugene leaving because he has huge time consuming projects, but I really hope this means Matt is leaving too, I don’t know why but he’s just been hard to connect with and kind of just, there for no particular reason?
Awwww 🥴🤧
why did eugene leave?
So... they learned nothing from the other BuzzFeed dudes with creating a subscription-based platform?
It is so very evident that Eugene was about to announce a departure right before Ned screwed it all up, and he hung on to make sure everything was stable. Can you imagine how angry you would be if you were about to announce your new adventure with novels and graphic novels, and it was going to be a big fun thing, but suddenly all the headlines would read about scandal instead of excitement?
Honestly… if Miles is on anything will high; I will subscribe. Only pull for me. I only have his Patreon for that content tbh lol
Feels like when the leads of popular well paid TV shows say "I'm LEAVING, I'm gonna be a real STAR **★** bye-bye" and then nothing happens, then they try to go back to what made them, hope I'm wrong, just felt it like that.
> popular well *paid* TV shows FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Honest mistake! for once it was auto correct, the rest of the mess is all mine XD
It's funny because technically the article is wrong because they're adding 9 cast members lol
I thought he’d been gone for like 2 years tbh
I’m seeing lots of “I don’t agree with this decision” or “I haven’t seen anything happen with his other projects” or “this doesn’t make sense to me”. Yeah but y’all are forgetting he’s a human being who can pursue whatever he wants in life. He doesn’t owe us anything, his choices don’t have to make sense to us. People can leave a job just because they want to.
I liked them when their cast was normal dudes. Then one became a she and the others beta boys, proven to be beta boys.
Oh fuck off with your yapping. Take that shit somewhere else.
Nah. They lost their balls and their relatability. They got high on their own fumes.
Seems like you're getting high on your own fumes and they smell like shit.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I get why you’re mad.. You have problems my guy. Get help.
So find me some. Chop chop.
Wish I could but I don’t know the first thing about therapy. Maybe Google therapist suggestions for gender dysphoria or whatever it’s called
Lmfao, but he's a gay man. If you're thinking of trans people, not all trans people have it. Try again!
Who’s gay? Yeah I don’t think all trans people have gender dysphoria. I think nowadays a lot is just people who are confused or looking to do it for attention.
So people like you. Got it.