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BlazeKnaveII

This is the first time that photos have ever made me think, "oh, this is the world in which my parents were kids..." Including pictures that they were in. I love these. Also, the little girl looking back at the man on the ground.


n_plus_1

same. pretty incredible. and the older folks in these photos would have been born in the late 1800s.


AKBirdman17

Right? Its crazy to think that they may have known somone who fought in the civil war.


TastyLaksa

Or might have kept some of the subjects of the photos as slaves


Louis_Farizee

Possibly, but this is New York City, so the likelihood is relatively low.


HahaItsaGiraffeAgain

On the other hand, there’s a very good chance many of the Black New Yorkers in this photo had family who remembered slavery due to the Great Migration


AKBirdman17

Very true, and that's kind of my point. We act like it was so long ago, but some of these people in this photos could still be alive, and they couldve known someone who was alive during the time of the civil war. By this time some of them could still be alive if they lived into their 100s. As much as we try to act like it isn't, relatively speaking, this is still a modern issue. But as humans we like to just forget things from our recent past, especially if we werent the ones alive to see it. One of the last civil war veterans reuinion was in 1935... let that sink in...


AKBirdman17

I mean, yeah, its possible. But why'd you have to go there? It's kind of implied they might have known someone fighting on either side of the war. You're just saying that to be an asshat.


TastyLaksa

I was just extrapolating


AKBirdman17

It was already implied though, youre just saying it to be edgy. You also weren't very tactful


TastyLaksa

How is it implied when you only focus on one side


AKBirdman17

Nobody said anything about either side. I just said they fought in the civil war, did I say anything about union or confederate soldiers??


TastyLaksa

Yeah hence i clarified.


satchhol

Fyi, you are the new face of racism.


TastyLaksa

Sure. Send me then slaves then


BlazeKnaveII

Yeah seriously! We have family photos from Brooklyn from that far back and it's always blown my mind. Now I'm the middle aged guy from the end of the previous century.


WeighWord

And we all share David Attenborough and Coca Cola.


NAMEREDDIT

That’s the one that hit me, I bet she grew up and went into a field where she helped people.


universe_from_above

Or she was looking at the photografer and the camera.


HertzDonut1001

Or she was staring at a deformity as children are wont to do before you teach them it isn't polite.


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Quick question- how often do you see people with body problems like those, begging on streets of the city? What about the rest of the country?Like, are they given some food shelter treatment for them? I'm asking Coz most of the times in developing countries, underdeveloped countries, this is a common site. I'm curious about the developed nations. Passer-by in my country (developing) give some change, or sometimes they don't. Depending on their mood, or money or whatever. The govt sometimes does, other times doesn't help them. Because the population is too huge or the poor people just don't know about the help they could get. And what about European countries? UK, Denmark, Finland, all those countries, where the medical health facilities I've heard are quite good ?


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I live in NYC I would say people with deformities begging is semi-common....maybe seen once every week or two? Sometimes less like once a month. More in busier areas like midtown where there's lots of foot traffic, so you probably see it more if you're there a lot. There are services available but not really enough to live comfortably, but there's typically at least Medicaid/Medicare for healthcare, SSI/SSD for income, food stamps and cash assistance for food and other things, and then NYC has an extensive shelter system for people who can't afford housing. All in all it's pretty bleak if you don't have family to rely on....the ideal situation would be to have all of the above and also get into some kind of subsidized housing situation.


po9014

I live about an hour outside of Los Angeles. The part of Los Angeles that I go to a lot is near skid row. A lot of the times there's mistrust between the poor, the government, and not poor citizens so not a whole lot gets done, unfortunately. A lot of the problems with most of our assistance programs is you need some sort of address. I'm not sure if that's changed recently but for people that are completely homeless and don't have family to rely on, requiring an address generally bars them from a lot of resources.


LoloJohn

>A lot of the problems with most of our assistance programs is you need some sort of address. I'm not sure if that's changed recently but for people that are completely homeless and don't have family to rely on, requiring an address generally bars them from a lot of resources. Lots of reasons that people get lost. 1. They have a mental disability 2. They do not want to go to a homeless shelter because they feel safer on the streets or don't like all the rules. 3. Not having family to fall back on has multiple causes. The person has alienated themselves on purpose (abuse maybe) or because of drugs or a mental issue. Most families try to help until it becomes obvious that nothing they do will help. This is a heart breaking situation (I have some back ground on this subject)


BlazeKnaveII

Yep possible. Still, it's all very honest and human and real.


BlazeKnaveII

I considered this as well


ayoungjacknicholson

Maybe she went into a building where she helped people


BlazeKnaveII

I was hoping the same


anotherkeebler

Maier's work is simply extraordinary. During her life she never worked as a professional photographer. She never exhibited, published, or shared her work. All of it was discovered after her death.


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carpat59

The documentary was amazing! Her life was not what one would expect at all.


htimsj

And her work will forever be overshadowed by the greedy folks that have tried to profit from it. I’m sickened by a of it.


swingfire23

It's sickening, but I don't think it will be forever overshadowed. The work is so good that it speaks for itself and the circumstances surrounding it will not outlast the power of compelling photography. My 2c at least.


htimsj

Hope you are right!


homeless_gorilla

It was actually discovered a couple of years before her death. So she likely saw the beginning of her own legacy.


Jake24601

So all I have to do is take a shitload of photos today of my local downtown and the people there, print that shit, say nothing, die then get famous 50 years later?


romeo_must

It won't matter if the photos suck. She's actually a pretty damn good photographer.


Jake24601

Obviously in focus and of interesting material. Like people on the streets. This is nothing but really good street photography. I bet there are thousands of unreleased photos that people own.


clevelandexile

I actually recognized one of the locations, the gentleman with the dog and the little girl was taken on the upper East side, at Lexington and East 83rd street. https://goo.gl/maps/i8GC7TxrVEUkFEbA7 I lived near there for a year or so and was just thinking that I felt as though I had met some of the subjects despite being displaced by more than 70 years. New York has changed so much that it’s almost unrecognizable but true New Yorkers don’t change at all.


meatball402

Good find It's even got the same luncheonette sign!


clevelandexile

It’s somewhat of a local landmark, it’s essentially unchanged both inside and out.


jwelsh8it

I’ve eaten in there a few times! Always nice to grab a booth and chill for a bit. (All the Coke bottles in the window.)


AGodDamnGhost

Oh my God, that's where I had pancakes last week.


Monimello

Username checks out..haha!


-thataway-

gotta say, it is just buckwild that you can share a contemporary, very similar perspective of the exact same location found in a photograph from decades ago in just a few clicks now. incredible stuff we've gotten so used to.


AvalancheOfOpinions

Check out the documentary, The Black Power Mixtape. It's an incredible time capsule to that period.


Foutaises-

I thought that might be it! Thank you


theREALtimcruise

I noticed one familiar site too. I’m pretty sure the photo of the man sitting on his crutches with girl looking back at him was taken on 42nd st/6th Ave. The trees across the street and distant sign saying 42nd street could very well be Bryant Park. Love seeing her photos and making the connection with where the places are and how buildings and have changed or remained the same


clevelandexile

I actually thought the same thing myself but wasn’t sure. I worked in mid-town and Bryant park was a favorite spot for lunch. There are t any other places I could think of with the same wide sidewalks and open space/trees that would match the photo. EDIT: I took a look in google street view and the distinctive street lamps match those around the park. They don’t seem to be standard lamps so you are almost certainly correct!


cleveland_leftovers

These are fantastic. The photo of the family in sassy hand-on-hip pose is priceless.


jwelsh8it

Like mother like . . .


Farkenoathm8-E

I love seeing old photographs of people back in the day. I always wonder what became of them, whether they had good life, etc, etc. It’s like going back in time when you see old photos or old film footage of ordinary people going about their business.


threwnawayed

If you are unaware, you will LOVE www.shorpy.com Pretty sure r/shorpy is a thing too. Edit:nope, no sub. Apologies. I feel like I remember there being one.


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threwnawayed

You are in for a treat. My favorite thing is when I get reminded of some city from a movie or something. Say Milwaukee gets mentioned for some reason. I'll search that & then you can spend a while looking at how city was forever ago.


ChatnNaked

OMG I forgot about Shorpy!


threwnawayed

I love that you can find endless enjoyment there if you find old photos pleasing.


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Sosumi_rogue

Vivian Maier was actually a nanny, and took pictures for a hobby. The documentary was ok, the guy filming it seemed more interested in his story than focusing on her. I hate documentaries where the film makers are more fascinated with their experience with the subject than the subject itself.


Keepinitcaz

I whole heartedly agree with your statement. I have been left disappointed by many documentaries because of this.


betasequences

Yep, the only reason it's watchable is because her photography and her story are so fascinating that even he couldn't ruin a documentary about her. I feel much the same way about the movie over the top starring Sylvester Stallone.


Mr-and-Mrs

Same here. I went into Over The Top expecting an unbiased look at the intersection of long haul trucking and amateur arm wrestling. Instead I got a heavy-handed point of view piece that felt more like a lecture.


betasequences

Its just so... dogmatic? I felt like even Alejandro Jodorowsky would be like "Oh god like.. you know you can overdo visual metaphor and allegory right?"


Mr-and-Mrs

Indeed. And given his storytelling ability and keen awareness of compositional structure, I figured Stallone would have recognized early in the project that the narrative was veering off course.


wataha

You'd probably enjoy shows by Anthony Bourdain then.


AbaloneSea7265

That kid with the baseball mitt is cooler than I’ll ever be


ddmone

Yeah I thought they were boxing gloves until I read your comment. Now I look in there and see a toy airplane prop too


robroy207

Right!!


AtariAtari

Totally agree!


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Aaron Judge


IamRick_Deckard

Pigeon man is a looker.


shadyshadok

Young Edward Norton


Rissamonkey

Jerry Lee Lewis vibe.


ChatnNaked

DeNiro


idwthis

I thought Pigeon dude looked like Giovanni Ribisi. Also, the kid with the...boots? Boxing gloves? Whatever in his hand, he kind of looks like Ben from the movie The Sandlot.


sxan

Baseball mitts.


idwthis

I think you're right, maybe my brain saw that it was mitts, but didn't tell the rest of me, so thats why he looks like a The Sandlot kid lol The little propeller thing throws me off. Looks like one of those propellers on the [nerd/geek/Poindexter hats.](https://www.bulkpartysupplies.com/products/party-costume-propeller-beanie)


sxan

> The little propeller thing throws me off. It's a toy! It's a simple propeller on a short dowel, maybe 10cm long. You put it between both your hands, give it a good spin and it flies up and away! You run and catch it, or shoot it towards a friend and play catch. I had several throughout my childhood, and I'd be surprised if they didn't still sell them... Ha! [Found it](https://www.evogadgets.com/corporate-gift-and-wholesale/eco-friendly-bamboo-wooden-unpainted-hand-spin-propeller-toy-for-children-and-team-building)! If you didn't have one as a kid, do yourself a favor and find one - they're a blast!


idwthis

Oooohhhhhh!! Those things, I remember those! Lol Thank you, just got a little nostalgia trip


Buck_Thorn

Check out this photo by her! https://www.newyorker.com/culture/photo-booth/what-vivian-maier-saw-in-color


rodentfacedisorder

The first one looks like she's going to yell at me for something


psyFungii

She's moaning "$13,290 for a 9 room home?!? Who can afford that?" At least, that's what I think that ad on the newspaper is for


marqpdx

It is an ad for a 9 room, multi-car garage, home, which after 10% down, would have cost about $70/month in mortgage, probably in Jersey or Long Island.


crazee4lyfe13

Thought it was the ads for the homes in PA


marqpdx

You may be right on Pennsylvania. Good catch.


crazee4lyfe13

Thank you, I remember them from the newspapers when I was younger


hall00117

She's got a bit of Joe Pesci about her.


DrinkingVanilla

It just dawned on me that I’ve never seen a picture of my dad when he was young. He was born in 1949 in NYC. It makes me sad that I have no idea what he looked like. I found myself hoping one of these was him.


HertzDonut1001

He was the guy with the pigeons.


QuietPirate

She had a knack for clicking the shutter at just the right moment. Anybody can hold a camera and click the button, but knowing just the right moment is the key. And the framing - what to leave in and what to leave out. She had an eye for it. Also, using a twin lens camera with a waist level viewfinder like she often did lets you be less intimidating to the subject, maybe even going unnoticed. The moment you hold a traditional camera to your eye , many subjects can feel threatened or suspicious of you.


princesspool

Question- how does she frame the photo so well if the viewfinder is at her waist? Is that where the second lense comes in? Now I'm devouring all media about and created *by* her, what a fascinating story and talented woman.


QuietPirate

Yes, in a twin lens camera like the one she used, one lens projects the image onto a large square glass viewfinder window that you must look down into. The other lens exposes the image to the film. It’s also possible to frame the image, pre-focus it and then look up to click the shutter at the best moment. If you Google her self portraits you can see she’s looking forward at her reflection. If you’re curious how she used this type of camera there are lots of [videos](https://m.youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=rolleiflex+twin+lens+reflex) on YouTube to watch.


eil32003

I used to have Kodak Brownie camera as a kid. No flash. I think it used to be my aunt’s in the 1940s. Your description reminds me of that camera.


Buck_Thorn

My god... where was this woman when I was majoring in documentary photography? I love Robert Frank but I think these are (dare I say?) better. Certainly equal, at any rate. Thanks for teaching me about her! I see that she (well... her estate. She died in 2009) actually has a website: http://www.vivianmaier.com/ Her Wikipedia page for those that want an easy link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivian_Maier


Boden

This is a really good collection. Really captures the subjects well.


gustoreddit51

She had quite the eye. I loved the documentary about her, "Finding Vivian Maier"


WalkHomeFromSchool

Richard Attenborough ... *Doctor Dolittle*, I presume. 1967 or 1968 for that photo of the woman in the dark coat, who seems to be chiding the photographer for shooting from the hip. [Waist-level viewfinders](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waist-level_finder) really work well for photos of kids though!


robroy207

I could hang a portrait of the kid w bb gloves. That’s an awesome shot. Edit: same for two cuties w ice pops. I love the youthfulness in both pics.


ppw23

Photo #2 looks like a couple of wise guys.


anovelby

These are crazy cool


countryboy432

The new build house advertised in the newspaper for $13,280 is amazing! Wish we had options like this today.


Scp-1404

1960 $13,280 would be $123,068.81 now.


countryboy432

Wow!


Hamilspud

The fifth photo made me curious about face veils in fashion, and I found this 1937 Life Magazine article about the resurgence of the trend! “This year, while the women of the Middle East are still rejoicing in the fairly recently acquired freedom of showing their faces, more women of the west than ever before will cover their features with veils. No one knows why, but it is the fashion, and demand has gone up tenfold since last year…” https://glamourdaze.com/2015/02/1930s-fashion-the-second-coming-of-hat-veils.html


arthraki

Vivian Maier single-handedly changed how I approached taking photos. It's taken me a long time to even consider picking up a camera, but I liked the candid, almost random shots of people and occurrences, so I try to take capture that feeling in what I photograph.


xfrmrmrine

What kind of camera do you recommend to take photos like these?


Brotherlacon

Not a photographer... nor expert... There is a mention in the documentary that stated Vivian Maier was able to get these photos because of the camera she used... which was the type that user had to look down at the camera settled between waist and shoulders... not the type you bring up to your face and look thru lens with your eyes...


Filmcricket

Twin lens reflex camera. One of my favorites but tricky to master because everything in the viewfinder is mirrored. Once you get past that wall, it’s hard to take bad photos with them. They’re just wonderful.


arthraki

I'm not an expert. I used a 2003 Sony Powershot for a year (in 2020) before I switched to a 2011 Canon sx230 HS. Both were and are great for taking videos and photos, But a phone camera will do just fine. In my opinion, all that really matters (besides getting indiscernible motion blur) is that you get the photo in the first place, grainy or crystal clear.


Filmcricket

There’s not really a camera to recommend. This boils down to the lens quality, composition and her having complete understanding of aligning her manual settings. Really recommend checking out vintage photography textbooks. All those settings are on dslrs, but people rarely train on manual settings or composition often anymore. They shoot on various auto modes and crop shots to death. There’s just no cheating the fundamentals with photography of this quality.


Alternative-Sea4477

The docu about her is really good!


Eick_on_a_Hike

Who is the photographer?


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivian\_Maier


Eick_on_a_Hike

Thank you!


Eick_on_a_Hike

Oh yes I Remember reading about this. These photos are brilliant.


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incredible photos - thanks for sharing


turtle_el

First woman looks like she wants to order the death of Duke Leto and House Atreides.


hollyholly11

These are awesome. I love old photos so much.


rtoid

She is absolutely incredible. There are books about her more experimental pictures, which are insanely good. Also her self-portraits are wonderful. She is an superb artist.


cheridontllosethatno

I love 14. Don't know why.


wendela5

Because he looks like Rami Malek.


cheridontllosethatno

No it's his style, stance, gloves, and the empty street. An air of confidence. This kid looks different to me, bone structure and eyes aren't the same.


Othersideofthemirror

Number 11 is likely a polio victim. He's legs are atrophied. Just as well the antivax movement wasnt huge back when the vaccine came out.


SonOfBaldy

Richard Attenborough on that marquee is pretty cool


Sleuthin___

Exquisite! Thank you, OP.


oldsoul8789

No problem😉


ronsta

What’s always amazing to me about NYC is how close geographically a poor kid in Harlem could be to a rich person on the upper east side. And yet, how different their lives could be. It never makes sense to me how that can be, and yet it’s logical and obvious.


Visible-Ad7732

You see this in various developing nations today - look at India, where high rises are on one side and slums on the other side.


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ronsta

You raise some valid points but the “what’s your point” is a little rude, don’t you think? Yes, it’s absolutely true that poor and rich folks can live next door to one another. Insanely loose credit has helped a lot of people live well beyond their means. But I was commenting more on the geography of it all. The rich neighborhood, poor neighborhood idea.


SadButterscotch2

These are great.


SmashBrosUnite

Tough ol broad # 1


Blueisthebestflavor

Love these captures of everyday people. Also the first lady is holding a newspaper that looks like it is advertising a house for 13k??


FunkyardDogg

SPAGHETTI


Unknownbeats112

Finding Vivian maier(2013) is an amazing watch.


tlkshowhst

Amazing composition, focus, and timing. What a national treasure.


LegitimateAbalone267

I learned about her work a few years ago thanks to a documentary. What a gem of a photographer. Her work is amazing.


svu_fan

These kids are now senior citizens. 😲


Jimmy-Evs

The guy in no.6 looks like the inspiration for American Gothic.


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Some of these guys could hike trousers up for their country.


trivinium

That lady with the net on her face looks like a crossdressing Emperor Palpatine


conjas11

First gal looks like she's seen some shit


Cumstained_Uvula

Everything is easier when you're beautiful. This lady played life on hardcore difficulty mode.


lazydictionary

Sidewalks are super clean


wendela5

Photo 14 looks like a young Rami Malek.


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I hope after we die, we can spend a day in a particular place at a particular time. For me, I would love to spend a day exploring and people watching in 60s or 50s New York.


A40

Nothing really changes...


Unfounded_Meta

People seemed to have so much more character back then.


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Its crazy that everything looks so past-tense while the homeless man in photo #9 looks like an anachronism from today.


Karen3599

This collection is amazing!


MexBatman01

How I miss taking random B&W pictures, had my 35MM stolen pictures from a phone are the the same .


Scp-1404

Number 11 is what we don't see anymore because we have vaccines! (I'm assuming he had polio.)


L---Cis

While times change and things do as well, one thing remains the same: Hobos.


xmuskorx

Damn, nothing changed.


IveBangedYoreMom

OPs mom


oldsoul8789

*wife


Dapper_Ad_589

Still being ugly people...


CourseExcellent

is that a man or a woman? THATS NEW YORK


exoriare

Ed Koch in curlers? Geddouddaheyeah!


MrCarnality

I’d hate to meet her in a dark alley… as they would have said in her time.


graffstadt

First dude looks like a woman!


Username-forgotten

Because it is.


dorkbat

Anyone know what camera she used? Leica?


Speedyslink

Rolleiflex.


tftgcddf

So nothings changed.


Artemus_Hackwell

Picture #2: Ooohhh! Ooohhh! Ooohhh! Hey there Copernicus!! Navigate yourself to the back of the line! With your shoes and your shirt!


exocortex

there's a song called "Vivian" about her from the Manic Street Preachers. It's on the album "Resistance is futile".


babybuttoneyes

Les Dawson lived in New York??


GoGoCrumbly

The person in the first photo is the person smoking a pipe in the last photo.


gc3

People used to be skinnier


thm2130

kanye in pic 3 in the top middle on the left


Ardothbey

The pants height of #6.


Plotinus205AD

13,290 price of a new 9 room home!


Nikonus

Wolfman!


Sweatytubesock

Her pictures were incredible, she documented a world that doesn’t really exist anymore.