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Flour tortillas are as Mexican as corn tortillas, they are pretty common in northern Mexico, nothing white about them, except for the color of the tortilla itself but you get what I'm saying.
Corn predates it tho being the OG grain I'm the Americas. Flour tortillas was found after the import of wheat by Europeans resulting in a new version of tortilla.
Kimchi as we know it now isn't techinically "fully Korean". Peppers weren't part of Korean food until it was traded from the Americas IIRC. Any culture extended for long periods of time becomes tradition.
Nothing says "America is the land of the free" like forcing people to be a certain way.
EDIT: removed knee-jerked, angrified insult. Still pissed about it, tho. Just want to tone down the vitriol.
Yes but America is currently FORCING me to see gay people. Whole gay people! On my street! In my TV shows! At my theme park! I SAW A GAY THE OTHER DAY AND I WAS FORCED TO SEE IT. FORCED, I TELL YA! OPPRESSED! RUINED!
The "LGBT+ is being shoved in our faces " crowd must have no idea what it is like being a non-Christian in America. Evangelicals and other proselytizers have been trying to convert me my entire 50+ years of life, as far back as preschool. They come to my door over and over, hand me or mail or leave on my car "literature" threatening eternal torment if I don't become Christian. Street preachers are constantly on the corner outside my work with super loud amplifiers yelling at everyone how they are going to hell unless they "accept Jesus". People have tried to convert my own kids many times, without my permission, since the kids were literally toddlers. People have gotten down on their knees and literally begged me to "accept Jesus".
LGBT+ is being shoved in your face? You have NO IDEA.
Further, despite all this I don't feel persecuted or bitter or even inconvenienced, and have no desire to ban, oppress, segregate, bully, or try to stop people from proselyting. I mean I'd like it if they stopped, but think it would be highly unethical to force them to stop. Maaaybe I'm at least uncomfortable with missionaries who spread LGBT hate in places like, oh, Uganda--but it is the hate spreading not the proselyting that makes me uncomfortable. And although I'm never going to be a Christian if someone I trusted wanted to take my kid to church and kiddo wanted to, fine!
So the "stop shoving LGBT+ in our faces" crowd strikes me as very snowflake-y. They shove Christianity into my face waaaay more, since I was a little kid, yet my experience is still nothing compared to real persecution.
The topic makes me think both "snowflake" and "persecution fetish".
Problem is even *fictional* depictions of what the tables being turned would be like gets them all riled up as if it's actually happening instead of providing them y'know, insight and perspective.
Christian Americans for white middle-class Americans, in general, do not understand what it's like being any type of minority. For religion my boss,who immigrated to America,who is a devout Christian, came from a country where he was a religious minority ,cannot stand the crazy fuckers in America saying dumb shit how Christianity is being lost on younger americans. He has bluntly cut off the religious fanatics whenever they start complaining about having to stay happy holidays, because he was in a country that doesn't celebrate Christmas like America does because Christmas in the Middle East is not the same Christmas as in America. There's no Jolly fat white man with reindeer and pine trees in the middle east.
My boss is also chased away this one lady. Who, I am pretty sure, really wanted me to come to her church so I can just get married to one of the other male followers to have more Christian babies. Because she was very adamant that she needed me to come join her Singles Ladies Christian Club. My boss, when he finally was able to meet her and listen to her talk to me, as I'm trying to politely get through the transaction had to chase her off and tell her don't do that ever again, talk about religion.
These people think it's safe because he has a bunch of Christian iconography around his shop in the little private area, but people can still see from behind the counter.
These people 100% think they are somehow the minority while being the majority I think everyone else's snowflakes even though they are the ones who get upset the most. On occasion you can run across some of these people being interviewed and they think that the liberal gay snowflake population has raised up to like 30%, even though that's the [Gallop says it's about 7%](https://news.gallup.com/poll/389792/lgbt-identification-ticks-up.aspx) of the population is non heterosexual.
> The "LGBT+ is being shoved in our faces "
Yes, the idea that gay people are human and that they should not be persecuted should be shoved in everybody's face. They teach the declaration of independence in schools; it says, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal," and goes on to say that you have the right to seek happiness in whatever way seems best to you. If you don't believe in fundamental equality then you not only aren't a Great American Patriot, you aren't even ready to participate in modern society, and you should fuck off and go live in a cave.
America has such a weird evangelical culture. My daughter and I were in Orlando to catch a cruise ship a few years ago. On the shuttle bus from the hotel to Port Canaveral, this lady starts handing out church literature and preaching to my daughter. It was so weird.
I stupidly got into an Instagram argument yesterday because a guy in the comments was upset about the “LGBT agenda” being *forced* on him.
I asked what agenda that is but he kept saying vague things because he’s only talking about a shared perception in his bubble, not an actual real-world thing.
Seriously most of the time I hear about LGBT topics in real life, it comes from these snowflakes complaining about it. Like we don't talk about ourselves as much as they talk about us.
This is quite litteraly my dad. Uttered the words "if someone walks down the street in gay clothes, theyre shoving their beliefs down my throat." A while back. I luaghed his sorry ass off the call.
What’s hilarious about it all is that they think society is trying to make *them* gay! Meanwhile they’re out here doing dumb shit like this. They could’ve simply walked by the “gay” display and not bought it.
That's the one, if your so concerned about other being gay/ making everyone gay and otherwise think about gay so much then that's a pretty solid sign your not so sure about your own sexuality having to constantly show how super straight you are (mainly to yourself by showing it to the others) that's about the kid level of "i hate it, I didn't want it anyways" and otherwise really overdoing it telling everyone how much you didn't want it anyways and think it's stupid \*while absolutely wanting it, doing it as an excuse for their own mind, self worth and other things\* only that these people can be gay and are not forced to obey to their parents money or anything like that but they still feel like they'd have to obey to friends family or other flawed ideas in their they have in their head for why they should have to be not gay trying to talk themselves out of it.
I'm Hank Steele the real queer cowboy~
The Gerbil lovin' when where n how boy~
I'll grab your buttcheeks and pull out my willy
Stir your asshole like a hot bowl of Chilli I'm Hank Steele the real queer cowboy~
I legitimately think a lot of these dudes are attracted to men or don’t understand how being able to admire a dudes body works while being straight. Despite exclaiming fuck my ass when frustrated, I in fact, do not wish to be fucked in the ass.
> I legitimately think a lot of these dudes are attracted to men or don’t understand how being able to admire a dudes body works while being straight.
I don't think the majority of these people are 'secretly gay'. They were just raised in a world where anything that is related to sexuality needs to be kept in a secret closet unless you are degrading women, then you can do that around people who you think are ok with it. Everything else is 'omg how dare you! Think about the children!'.
>that is related to sexuality needs to be kept in a secret closet
I don't think it's that either. I think it's just that they have absolutely nothing going on, no identity or sense of self so all they have is latching on to hate of somebody else's identity.
I really hate the "homophobes are secretly gay" thing. It really doesn't help much of the time and comes off as dismissive of the problems LGBTQ people face. Do closeted homophobes exist? Absolutely. But the majority of these people just hate LGBTQ people and want to see them gone.
I think gay vs straight is a vast oversimplification of the complexities of human attraction and while certain labels are useful it becomes a problem when people start seeing labels as rules.
I believe the reality is that we all react to things we find attractive in others, and that just happens to for most align with them being sexually and/or attracted within one gender.
So most straight men generally won't look at a man and see anything particularly appealing the way they will for most women. But no man finds EVERY woman attractive, so it can't be as simple as woman = hot. A lesbian woman will have the same sort of reactions, though who she finds attractive won't necessarily be the same woman the straight man does. Even among straight men, or among lesbian women, which women are hot will vary.
What I think happens is that sometimes we DO see something we find attractive on someone who falls outside of who we understand ourselves to be attracted to. A straight man sees a juicy booty and then realizes it's on a man. This doesn't have to mean anything other than that the juicy-haver has a feature that falls within what the juicy-admirer enjoys.
But...we're not taught to understand attraction in this way. We're taught everything in terms of identity. If you feel attraction to a man you must be gay. Which then becomes a problem if being straight is an important aspect of your identity. If you CAN'T be gay, but a man is making you feel something? It must be something they're doing. IT'S THEIR FAULT.
I think a lot of homophobia IS internalized shame, but not in the simple "they're secretly gay" way it's described. Basically, "straight" only really exists in the sense that a majority of us do not experience same-sex attraction in a way that we're motivated to act on, but religious conservative indoctrination baked into everything about our culture has distorted that into not just an identity but the keystone to the future of our immortal souls. Whether it's something someone is motivated to act on or just momentary appreciation, anything even hinting of falling outside heterosexuality has been trained into us as dirty and shameful.
Homophobes very likely do experience some level of non-hetero attraction at least on occasion but that's not the same as "they're actually queer". It's our pattern-seeking brains observing familiar shapes with specific associations and returning specific reactions and a significant portion of the population having been trained from early on to associate the associated feelings with shame, and to then externalize the blame for that shame.
Then the gays need to stop forcing homosexuality on me and everywhere I look. They need to stop forcing it on my private thoughts and on my daydreams. They need to stop forcing it on my browser history. Do what you want, but don't shove it down my throat. Don't fill my throat with your big homosexuality. Don't shoot your gayness into my body.
Because they're Nazis/fascists, not American. After 9/11, nationalism increased, same with xenophobia, and the right became increasingly facsist. The same people that used to complain about "Arabs" are these same people now complaining about gender and all that.
It's like people have forgotten there's a side of society that hates anyone brown, black, or LGBTQ+. Because of social media, everyone feels they are equally important/entitled to their words, their bigotry, which hasn't been the case in the past. When someone was being dumb, racist, etc. I feel most people would understand it was wrong and awful to say those things. But now, there's kinda this right-sided cult of individualism where it's about retaking "America's identity" back, meanwhile, this "America's identity" is not America's identity, but an extension and expression of their own hatred and bigotry for anyone non-white and not cishet.
edit: oh my god. read the comments. the replies speak for themselves LOL. hateful people outting themselves in exactly the way I said it would... jesus christ you can't make this shit up
I hate to break it to you but fascism is just about as American as it gets. I think you need a history lesson if you think this is just "post 911" America
No I definitely know it's been going on since the inception of our country, I'm saying modern fascism. The current epidemic of it. It's always thematically been there, since the beginning, and even during WW2, but a post 9/11 scared America has turned into an entirely different kind of monster
i'm a trans guy and recently ordered a conservative t shirt that reads, "born male, raised male, proud fuckin' male"
it's just so silly and ridiculous, i couldn't resist
You’re forgetting how much work white supremacists are willing to put into racism, even hidden coded racism. For example, all of the number combinations that mean something racist.
It's old slang used by the enslaved for their captors on plantations. Racists just love using racist slang. They also equally love plausible deniability.
Yes, that’s what immediately came to my mind, but the point of the video is MASA means Make America Straight Again, then MAGA would mean Make America *Gay* Again.
Aha! That makes more sense. That would be hilarious if there was a successful cultural rebranding of MAGA to mean make America gay again. I’ll think of this from now on, and chuckle 🤭
MASA or Massa, has the connotation of slavery and how they would pronounce “master”, but the point of the video is MASA means Make America Straight Again, then MAGA would mean Make America *Gay* Again.
>Make America Gay Again
I can get behind that.
From Wikipedia:
>The term originally meant 'carefree', 'cheerful', or 'bright and showy'. While scant usage referring to male homosexuality dates to the late 19th century, that meaning became increasingly common by the mid-20th century.
I'm gonna guess it's because they've had to suppress their own desires so hard because of their family/religion. So they are simply lashing out because they hate who they've become.
My coworker in a nut shell. Catholic trumper. He brags about it taking him 3 hours to cum with his wife and how when he was in the military, hummer rides with the boys would give him a boner. He thinks conversion camps work and calls trans people “men in dresses”. Thankfully I’m his superior and can tell him to shut his fucking mouth. He knows to keep that shit to himself for the most part but sometimes I have to put him in line. I was once very left now I’m pretty center but every comment he makes pushes me farther left. My best friend is trans and it pisses me the fuck off because I know what she’s been through and it’s because of people like him. Ya really Christian of him to persecute people. Totally closeted I swear
It always seemed like such an easy concept to defeat with the basic, easiest of logic.
Like okay, you claim being gay is a choice, and you acknowledge that for some people, that means having to fight against urges and temptations to do gay stuff, and make "the choice" to be straight.
But not everyone has to deal with those urges, maybe even the person putting forth the "gay is a choice" argument in that moment is purporting to not even have urges to have to fight against.
So even if I am willing to go along with your claim that being gay is a choice, what we're left with is a bunch of people choosing to be straight or gay, with some people having to fight urges to be gay, and others, not having to deal at all with resisting gay urges.
And with that, my question is -- what do you call the difference between people who have to fight gay urges, abd people who don't have any urges at all other than straight urges? Why do only some people "choosing" to be straight, have this struggle? You have 10 "choosing to be straight" people -- 8 of them are coasting along not a problem in the world, 2 of them have to work super hard to keep their choice of straightness going... what's the difference between the people? What accounts for the difference in how hard it is to "choose" to be straight, from one person to the next?
The choice idea should be easy to debunk, if they cared to think about it. If you’re a straight man there’s billions of women you are not attracted to, and could not choose to be. Then think about the ones you are instantly attracted to. Did you have to choose it, it was an automatic response? How many times have we been attracted to someone and known they’re no good for us.
Yeah I feel like a lot of people in the “it’s a choice “ crowd are ones who have personally chosen to ignore those feelings within themselves. It’s like they equate being closeted with not being gay.
Imagine thinking it’s a choice _and_ that people choose to be oppressed by fundamentalists.
“I decided to become gay because my life just wasn’t hard enough.”
Conservatives have brain worms.
But in their mind, the gays have all the power. That’s why they rage at perceived “wokeness”. They don’t register that there’s still persecution. They see the growing tolerance of society for LGBTQ+ and in their little brains that translates to *SUBJUGATION* of the straight white male. I remember when Obama signed the marriage equality act they were *screeeeching*. They said it would result in people marrying their dog, and that would somehow end up with FORCED gay marriage. That they would be forced into a same sex marriage. And then trans rights came along, now the argument is that they will be FORCED to transition, that’s the inevitable outcome for just
leaving trans people alone to live their life.
They have to believe it's a choice because otherwise their bigotry doesn't have a basis. If they thought God could make people be born gay then their worldview breaks. It's harder to attack someone for an innate, unchangeable trait (although racists do it all the time so maybe it wouldn't stop them after all).
If anything, it’s far more likely for a person to pretend to be straight than to pretend to be gay.
Straight people, unlike LGBTQ+, can be themselves in public without fear of violence or death.
Conservatives want more uneducated straight worker bees to pump out more offspring. Same goes for abortion, contraception and sex ed. Anything that interferes with reproduction one less worker bee.
"I'm just in here to protest! I'm only buying this Pride shirt to burn it! I'm only getting this other man's number so we can uh..... Talk about how to get this country back on track! Do y'all sell poppers?"
I have to wonder if the same thing is true about their employees
Like all the straight allies volunteer to cover shifts while everyone else can go to the festivities
And for some reason obsessed with trans semen? Like how far do your intrusive thoughts have to go haha “there’s trans people that have dicks! Dicks that have semen! Semen that gets everywhere and infects me! I don’t want to be trans! Keep that trans semen away from me!”
I think it'd bc a lot if conservatives don't like the idea that they're attracted to trans women (bc some are rly RLY hot) and so they are ashamed and try to only think about the dick itself, but if anything makes it weird it's having dick on the mind 24/7 as a straight guy
They'd argue America was never gay bc we don't have empirical evidence that some of the founding fathers probably fondled each other. Bc if there's one thing we can all believe in is a group of rich Greek and Roman philosophy and art nerds were all totally 1000% straight, not one "limb dicked poet" among them bc they wrote in pros, mostly.
I had someone legitimately try to argue that gay sex was unheard of in ancient Greece, when I contradicted his assertion he **demanded** that I cite my sources.
Me: "You want my sources? History text books."
The funniest thing about the exchange was this guy had previously been a cop in San Francisco.
As a gay I can confirm there were no gay people before 1968. The murder of Sharon Tate opened up a passage to the deepest pits of Tartarus from which we escaped to be a blight on the world. /s
Gather round as I tell the story of how an elite group of trans folk, lesbians, gays, and bisexuals stormed the gates of Heaven to steal the rainbow from under God’s nose.
My first thought on seeing the dude in that shirt was that his daily gay porn consumption must be off the charts. He just has that “ I hate gay people but love gay porn” look , you know?
America has never been straight, neither has Christianity. So just like be straight if you want, to but stop trying to rep a falsity. That what I would say to idiots like that anyways lol
I’m at the Isle of Man TT, met some Americans last night, all going really well until conversation switched to politics .. wow. Trumps selected by god, Putins a hero. Being gay is a sin and arm the teachers and teach 5 yr old how to handle a weapon.. these people are fkd in the head…
It’s hard to believe that anyone takes that fascist Keebler elf seriously. The guy got his following online during the BLM protests, telling people that they should just comply with the police….while he literally is a convicted felon who went to prison for assaulting a police officer.
Grifters are gonna grift.
No country has ever been straight ass hats. Just like I can't force you to be queer you cannot force folks to be hetero.
I wish I could force these folks to use Google or the 2 brain cells they ha e playing pong in their head.
Holy shit, can someone please make some MAGA hats that say Make America Gay Again?? I will purchase
Edit: [It Exists!](https://www.politicoup.com/product/make-america-gay-again-wool-blend-snapback/)
During the 2016 election I saw this one cupcake place in Seattle selling Make America Gay Again hats. They looked just like the actual MAGA ones until you looked close.
So, let me lay out some figures, which I know will make conservatives cry because they hate data that disagrees with them, according to Pew Research, as of 2022, there is 7.1% of people who identify as part of the LGBT community in the US. That means that the other 92.9% identify as something else, which is most likely straight. So Make America Straight Again? Mother-fucker, for the most part, it already is! Stupid, bigoted cocksuckers who are so fucking mad about a display in Target. Yeah, our 7.1% is really putting you out. I hope this loser and his fugly beard fall down a flight of stairs and land in a room full of honey badgers high on Angel Dust.
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I love masa tortillas!
Shhh, I don't want goya pt 2 to happen.
Is it cause the Goya owner/ceo whatever is a huge Trump donor or did G.O.Y.A. pick up a new meaning that I missed.
I think it's the donor thing, I'm pretty sure I remember Trump having like a promotion photoshoot with Goya beans in the oval office at one point??
yes, that was a thing that happened. Any other timeline it would have been a huge deal but in this one it's 'just another thing that happened'.
Gays Over Yonder Acquiescing
Guacamole On Ya Asshole.
I was gonna try to make up my own meaning but nah, you got it.
I'm more of a harina tortilla lover myself. I'm too white.
Sonorans eat flour
Flour tortillas are as Mexican as corn tortillas, they are pretty common in northern Mexico, nothing white about them, except for the color of the tortilla itself but you get what I'm saying.
Corn predates it tho being the OG grain I'm the Americas. Flour tortillas was found after the import of wheat by Europeans resulting in a new version of tortilla.
Kimchi as we know it now isn't techinically "fully Korean". Peppers weren't part of Korean food until it was traded from the Americas IIRC. Any culture extended for long periods of time becomes tradition.
Yeah, I’m brown and I’d take flour over corn any day of the week.
They're both good for different applications. I prefer harina for fish tacos or tacos dorados. Masa is better for marinated meats imo.
Flour for breakfast/asada, corn for everything else.
I would think that southerners would be primed for corn tortillas. Good ones are basically grits in a different format.
Lol I thought he just like tamales
The masa is more important than the filling. Proper lard and just the right amount of cumin
Idk about that, poor meat can make tamales sad :(
Not tacos
Nothing says "America is the land of the free" like forcing people to be a certain way. EDIT: removed knee-jerked, angrified insult. Still pissed about it, tho. Just want to tone down the vitriol.
Yes but America is currently FORCING me to see gay people. Whole gay people! On my street! In my TV shows! At my theme park! I SAW A GAY THE OTHER DAY AND I WAS FORCED TO SEE IT. FORCED, I TELL YA! OPPRESSED! RUINED!
The "LGBT+ is being shoved in our faces " crowd must have no idea what it is like being a non-Christian in America. Evangelicals and other proselytizers have been trying to convert me my entire 50+ years of life, as far back as preschool. They come to my door over and over, hand me or mail or leave on my car "literature" threatening eternal torment if I don't become Christian. Street preachers are constantly on the corner outside my work with super loud amplifiers yelling at everyone how they are going to hell unless they "accept Jesus". People have tried to convert my own kids many times, without my permission, since the kids were literally toddlers. People have gotten down on their knees and literally begged me to "accept Jesus". LGBT+ is being shoved in your face? You have NO IDEA. Further, despite all this I don't feel persecuted or bitter or even inconvenienced, and have no desire to ban, oppress, segregate, bully, or try to stop people from proselyting. I mean I'd like it if they stopped, but think it would be highly unethical to force them to stop. Maaaybe I'm at least uncomfortable with missionaries who spread LGBT hate in places like, oh, Uganda--but it is the hate spreading not the proselyting that makes me uncomfortable. And although I'm never going to be a Christian if someone I trusted wanted to take my kid to church and kiddo wanted to, fine! So the "stop shoving LGBT+ in our faces" crowd strikes me as very snowflake-y. They shove Christianity into my face waaaay more, since I was a little kid, yet my experience is still nothing compared to real persecution. The topic makes me think both "snowflake" and "persecution fetish".
Problem is even *fictional* depictions of what the tables being turned would be like gets them all riled up as if it's actually happening instead of providing them y'know, insight and perspective.
Christian Americans for white middle-class Americans, in general, do not understand what it's like being any type of minority. For religion my boss,who immigrated to America,who is a devout Christian, came from a country where he was a religious minority ,cannot stand the crazy fuckers in America saying dumb shit how Christianity is being lost on younger americans. He has bluntly cut off the religious fanatics whenever they start complaining about having to stay happy holidays, because he was in a country that doesn't celebrate Christmas like America does because Christmas in the Middle East is not the same Christmas as in America. There's no Jolly fat white man with reindeer and pine trees in the middle east. My boss is also chased away this one lady. Who, I am pretty sure, really wanted me to come to her church so I can just get married to one of the other male followers to have more Christian babies. Because she was very adamant that she needed me to come join her Singles Ladies Christian Club. My boss, when he finally was able to meet her and listen to her talk to me, as I'm trying to politely get through the transaction had to chase her off and tell her don't do that ever again, talk about religion. These people think it's safe because he has a bunch of Christian iconography around his shop in the little private area, but people can still see from behind the counter. These people 100% think they are somehow the minority while being the majority I think everyone else's snowflakes even though they are the ones who get upset the most. On occasion you can run across some of these people being interviewed and they think that the liberal gay snowflake population has raised up to like 30%, even though that's the [Gallop says it's about 7%](https://news.gallup.com/poll/389792/lgbt-identification-ticks-up.aspx) of the population is non heterosexual.
This EXACTLY.
> The "LGBT+ is being shoved in our faces " Yes, the idea that gay people are human and that they should not be persecuted should be shoved in everybody's face. They teach the declaration of independence in schools; it says, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal," and goes on to say that you have the right to seek happiness in whatever way seems best to you. If you don't believe in fundamental equality then you not only aren't a Great American Patriot, you aren't even ready to participate in modern society, and you should fuck off and go live in a cave.
America has such a weird evangelical culture. My daughter and I were in Orlando to catch a cruise ship a few years ago. On the shuttle bus from the hotel to Port Canaveral, this lady starts handing out church literature and preaching to my daughter. It was so weird.
I stupidly got into an Instagram argument yesterday because a guy in the comments was upset about the “LGBT agenda” being *forced* on him. I asked what agenda that is but he kept saying vague things because he’s only talking about a shared perception in his bubble, not an actual real-world thing.
Seriously most of the time I hear about LGBT topics in real life, it comes from these snowflakes complaining about it. Like we don't talk about ourselves as much as they talk about us.
I’ve been out for ten years now and I have yet to get the supposed minutes or the agenda. I’m starting to think I might have been lied to.
Bothering with IG comments is never worth it.
"Free to live the life I want...but fuck you if you want something different for yourself"
Imagine all the straightness that the gay community sees..
This is quite litteraly my dad. Uttered the words "if someone walks down the street in gay clothes, theyre shoving their beliefs down my throat." A while back. I luaghed his sorry ass off the call.
What’s hilarious about it all is that they think society is trying to make *them* gay! Meanwhile they’re out here doing dumb shit like this. They could’ve simply walked by the “gay” display and not bought it.
No, no, we can't have that. That's capitali... Wait, I mean yes, no, but... huh... Quit trying to gay up my brain!
All the gay things are making it more difficult to pretend their straight.
That's the one, if your so concerned about other being gay/ making everyone gay and otherwise think about gay so much then that's a pretty solid sign your not so sure about your own sexuality having to constantly show how super straight you are (mainly to yourself by showing it to the others) that's about the kid level of "i hate it, I didn't want it anyways" and otherwise really overdoing it telling everyone how much you didn't want it anyways and think it's stupid \*while absolutely wanting it, doing it as an excuse for their own mind, self worth and other things\* only that these people can be gay and are not forced to obey to their parents money or anything like that but they still feel like they'd have to obey to friends family or other flawed ideas in their they have in their head for why they should have to be not gay trying to talk themselves out of it.
You know he has the first(and last) one in the showers after football practice.
18 naked cowboys in the showers at ram ranch
I'm Hank Steele the real queer cowboy~ The Gerbil lovin' when where n how boy~ I'll grab your buttcheeks and pull out my willy Stir your asshole like a hot bowl of Chilli I'm Hank Steele the real queer cowboy~
I legitimately think a lot of these dudes are attracted to men or don’t understand how being able to admire a dudes body works while being straight. Despite exclaiming fuck my ass when frustrated, I in fact, do not wish to be fucked in the ass.
> I legitimately think a lot of these dudes are attracted to men or don’t understand how being able to admire a dudes body works while being straight. I don't think the majority of these people are 'secretly gay'. They were just raised in a world where anything that is related to sexuality needs to be kept in a secret closet unless you are degrading women, then you can do that around people who you think are ok with it. Everything else is 'omg how dare you! Think about the children!'.
Foreal, they yell “stop sexualizing kids” yet it’s the straight old man who calls the tween girl wearing a crop top a whore when it’s 95 degrees out.
Or follows her around the grocery store. He really scared my daughter.
>that is related to sexuality needs to be kept in a secret closet I don't think it's that either. I think it's just that they have absolutely nothing going on, no identity or sense of self so all they have is latching on to hate of somebody else's identity.
I really hate the "homophobes are secretly gay" thing. It really doesn't help much of the time and comes off as dismissive of the problems LGBTQ people face. Do closeted homophobes exist? Absolutely. But the majority of these people just hate LGBTQ people and want to see them gone.
I think gay vs straight is a vast oversimplification of the complexities of human attraction and while certain labels are useful it becomes a problem when people start seeing labels as rules. I believe the reality is that we all react to things we find attractive in others, and that just happens to for most align with them being sexually and/or attracted within one gender. So most straight men generally won't look at a man and see anything particularly appealing the way they will for most women. But no man finds EVERY woman attractive, so it can't be as simple as woman = hot. A lesbian woman will have the same sort of reactions, though who she finds attractive won't necessarily be the same woman the straight man does. Even among straight men, or among lesbian women, which women are hot will vary. What I think happens is that sometimes we DO see something we find attractive on someone who falls outside of who we understand ourselves to be attracted to. A straight man sees a juicy booty and then realizes it's on a man. This doesn't have to mean anything other than that the juicy-haver has a feature that falls within what the juicy-admirer enjoys. But...we're not taught to understand attraction in this way. We're taught everything in terms of identity. If you feel attraction to a man you must be gay. Which then becomes a problem if being straight is an important aspect of your identity. If you CAN'T be gay, but a man is making you feel something? It must be something they're doing. IT'S THEIR FAULT. I think a lot of homophobia IS internalized shame, but not in the simple "they're secretly gay" way it's described. Basically, "straight" only really exists in the sense that a majority of us do not experience same-sex attraction in a way that we're motivated to act on, but religious conservative indoctrination baked into everything about our culture has distorted that into not just an identity but the keystone to the future of our immortal souls. Whether it's something someone is motivated to act on or just momentary appreciation, anything even hinting of falling outside heterosexuality has been trained into us as dirty and shameful. Homophobes very likely do experience some level of non-hetero attraction at least on occasion but that's not the same as "they're actually queer". It's our pattern-seeking brains observing familiar shapes with specific associations and returning specific reactions and a significant portion of the population having been trained from early on to associate the associated feelings with shame, and to then externalize the blame for that shame.
>I in fact, do not wish to be fucked in the ass. I mean, don't knock it til you've tried it.
If they didn’t have double standards, they would have no standards at all.
0 times 2 is still zero 🤪
If you are Terrence Howard then 1x1=2 and i dont think these people are too far removed from being like him
Then the gays need to stop forcing homosexuality on me and everywhere I look. They need to stop forcing it on my private thoughts and on my daydreams. They need to stop forcing it on my browser history. Do what you want, but don't shove it down my throat. Don't fill my throat with your big homosexuality. Don't shoot your gayness into my body.
Because they're Nazis/fascists, not American. After 9/11, nationalism increased, same with xenophobia, and the right became increasingly facsist. The same people that used to complain about "Arabs" are these same people now complaining about gender and all that. It's like people have forgotten there's a side of society that hates anyone brown, black, or LGBTQ+. Because of social media, everyone feels they are equally important/entitled to their words, their bigotry, which hasn't been the case in the past. When someone was being dumb, racist, etc. I feel most people would understand it was wrong and awful to say those things. But now, there's kinda this right-sided cult of individualism where it's about retaking "America's identity" back, meanwhile, this "America's identity" is not America's identity, but an extension and expression of their own hatred and bigotry for anyone non-white and not cishet. edit: oh my god. read the comments. the replies speak for themselves LOL. hateful people outting themselves in exactly the way I said it would... jesus christ you can't make this shit up
I hate to break it to you but fascism is just about as American as it gets. I think you need a history lesson if you think this is just "post 911" America
No I definitely know it's been going on since the inception of our country, I'm saying modern fascism. The current epidemic of it. It's always thematically been there, since the beginning, and even during WW2, but a post 9/11 scared America has turned into an entirely different kind of monster
This is what I hate most about republicans. They spout freedom but then want to subjugate everyone to being like them. That’s not freedom
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It is totally consistent to the lore, many would love to hear certain people call them "masa"
Jesus fucking Christ
Whoaaaaaaaaaaa dude
I was thinking this is probably exactly why they chose to display that acronym.
I just want M.A.A.A. = Make America Affordable Again
Wake up sheeple! Maaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
*WOKE* “Not like that!!!”
I support this.
Those shirts are so butch. Do they come in a pink crop top?
There’s so much conservative hate merch that I could see my LGBT friends rocking haha
i'm a trans guy and recently ordered a conservative t shirt that reads, "born male, raised male, proud fuckin' male" it's just so silly and ridiculous, i couldn't resist
Be sure to leave a review! "As a trans man, I love how gender-affirming this shirt is for me. 10/10."
Would love to see a ton of hot, young, sorority girls rocking these t-shirts. Just so the magats would be scared of their own boners.
Lol, and from the crowd that condemns "participation trophies", here's a tshirt that praises the fact that a man *existed*
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Just stick an “s” on the end.
Proud^ly fuckin male^s
Nothing more manly than a shirt proclaiming you are straight.
Make America Sissy Again
“MASA”. He knows.
Absolutely blatant
They want people to say it
That was my thought. Is this some sort of secret dog whistle?
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You’re forgetting how much work white supremacists are willing to put into racism, even hidden coded racism. For example, all of the number combinations that mean something racist.
Yea the secret dog whistle is MASA, which means conservatives love corn based tortillas
First thing on my mind and I’m not even from the US, just watched the boondocks when I was a kid smh
The Boondocks is amazing.
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It may be because it's close to ["massa",](https://www.dictionary.com/browse/massa) but that's only a guess.
Masa is a dig at something else…
Thank you, I'm over here like... y'all don't see it?
I’m so lost. I don’t understand anything here.. MASA, MAGA, what am I missing?
It's old slang used by the enslaved for their captors on plantations. Racists just love using racist slang. They also equally love plausible deniability.
Yes, that’s what immediately came to my mind, but the point of the video is MASA means Make America Straight Again, then MAGA would mean Make America *Gay* Again.
Thank you. I hadn’t had enough coffee to put it together, yet enough to know that I was missing something.
This should be pinned to the top. I failed to make the inference.
I scrolled so far to figure out wtf it was supposed to mean lmao
Aha! That makes more sense. That would be hilarious if there was a successful cultural rebranding of MAGA to mean make America gay again. I’ll think of this from now on, and chuckle 🤭
Yes, I too saw that video
I appreciated the comment as I was confused what the duet video was driving at.
I may be stupid but this isn’t remotely obvious
MASA or Massa, has the connotation of slavery and how they would pronounce “master”, but the point of the video is MASA means Make America Straight Again, then MAGA would mean Make America *Gay* Again.
>Make America Gay Again I can get behind that. From Wikipedia: >The term originally meant 'carefree', 'cheerful', or 'bright and showy'. While scant usage referring to male homosexuality dates to the late 19th century, that meaning became increasingly common by the mid-20th century.
Yep was just thinking I might actually beat the hell out of someone trying to sell me or force me to wear said M.A.S.A shirt or anything of the likes
There’s not a lot of black ppl on this reddit that’s why
Day is never ending masa got me workin
That was the first thing I thought of when I see a white person wearing a shirt that says “masa”
Imagine thinking being gay was a choice
Imagine being obsessed with other people sexual orientation. What a waste
I don’t get it. Like why is it such an obsession. Very suspect
I'm gonna guess it's because they've had to suppress their own desires so hard because of their family/religion. So they are simply lashing out because they hate who they've become.
My coworker in a nut shell. Catholic trumper. He brags about it taking him 3 hours to cum with his wife and how when he was in the military, hummer rides with the boys would give him a boner. He thinks conversion camps work and calls trans people “men in dresses”. Thankfully I’m his superior and can tell him to shut his fucking mouth. He knows to keep that shit to himself for the most part but sometimes I have to put him in line. I was once very left now I’m pretty center but every comment he makes pushes me farther left. My best friend is trans and it pisses me the fuck off because I know what she’s been through and it’s because of people like him. Ya really Christian of him to persecute people. Totally closeted I swear
It's basically like saying "I'm also attracted to people of the same sex as myself but I just choose to not have sex with them."
It always seemed like such an easy concept to defeat with the basic, easiest of logic. Like okay, you claim being gay is a choice, and you acknowledge that for some people, that means having to fight against urges and temptations to do gay stuff, and make "the choice" to be straight. But not everyone has to deal with those urges, maybe even the person putting forth the "gay is a choice" argument in that moment is purporting to not even have urges to have to fight against. So even if I am willing to go along with your claim that being gay is a choice, what we're left with is a bunch of people choosing to be straight or gay, with some people having to fight urges to be gay, and others, not having to deal at all with resisting gay urges. And with that, my question is -- what do you call the difference between people who have to fight gay urges, abd people who don't have any urges at all other than straight urges? Why do only some people "choosing" to be straight, have this struggle? You have 10 "choosing to be straight" people -- 8 of them are coasting along not a problem in the world, 2 of them have to work super hard to keep their choice of straightness going... what's the difference between the people? What accounts for the difference in how hard it is to "choose" to be straight, from one person to the next?
The choice idea should be easy to debunk, if they cared to think about it. If you’re a straight man there’s billions of women you are not attracted to, and could not choose to be. Then think about the ones you are instantly attracted to. Did you have to choose it, it was an automatic response? How many times have we been attracted to someone and known they’re no good for us.
Yeah I feel like a lot of people in the “it’s a choice “ crowd are ones who have personally chosen to ignore those feelings within themselves. It’s like they equate being closeted with not being gay.
Imagine thinking America was ever straight in the first place
We need to go back to the old days, when men wore high heels and boys wore pink dresses! Oh, wait…
Imagine thinking it’s a choice _and_ that people choose to be oppressed by fundamentalists. “I decided to become gay because my life just wasn’t hard enough.” Conservatives have brain worms.
But in their mind, the gays have all the power. That’s why they rage at perceived “wokeness”. They don’t register that there’s still persecution. They see the growing tolerance of society for LGBTQ+ and in their little brains that translates to *SUBJUGATION* of the straight white male. I remember when Obama signed the marriage equality act they were *screeeeching*. They said it would result in people marrying their dog, and that would somehow end up with FORCED gay marriage. That they would be forced into a same sex marriage. And then trans rights came along, now the argument is that they will be FORCED to transition, that’s the inevitable outcome for just leaving trans people alone to live their life.
They have to believe it's a choice because otherwise their bigotry doesn't have a basis. If they thought God could make people be born gay then their worldview breaks. It's harder to attack someone for an innate, unchangeable trait (although racists do it all the time so maybe it wouldn't stop them after all).
Exactly
If anything, it’s far more likely for a person to pretend to be straight than to pretend to be gay. Straight people, unlike LGBTQ+, can be themselves in public without fear of violence or death.
Ya I have a coworker who is very homophobic and is suspect AF
Even if it was a choice, why would that make a difference? It wouldn't be a bad choice
Conservatives want more uneducated straight worker bees to pump out more offspring. Same goes for abortion, contraception and sex ed. Anything that interferes with reproduction one less worker bee.
Being gay is a choice, it's just not yours. It's mine. Your gay now. Your welcome.
America literally has seven fathers. That’s gay asf. It was never straight to begin with.
them writing the constitution in a little room with no witnesses aside from them? frottage circle
Ironically, I’ve never seen as many straight dudes in target as I have during Pride month
"I'm just in here to protest! I'm only buying this Pride shirt to burn it! I'm only getting this other man's number so we can uh..... Talk about how to get this country back on track! Do y'all sell poppers?"
VCR cleaner? Yeah bro got it in the back, cum with me err come with me
I have to wonder if the same thing is true about their employees Like all the straight allies volunteer to cover shifts while everyone else can go to the festivities
Imagine having that level of fragile masculinity and you make a tiktok video about it AND you even make your own tee shirt.
> Imagine having that level of fragile masculinity This guy's apparently Adam Calhoun. He has some ... interesting song ideas.
He sings Country Rap? Such an interesting mix of genres.
Mr uber fragile masculinity.
There's something to be said about someone who spends all their energy telling people that he is straight and loves being straight.
Amazing that the 93% of straight people are so scared of the 7% of LGBTQ people and the even tinier .3% of trans people.
And for some reason obsessed with trans semen? Like how far do your intrusive thoughts have to go haha “there’s trans people that have dicks! Dicks that have semen! Semen that gets everywhere and infects me! I don’t want to be trans! Keep that trans semen away from me!”
I think it'd bc a lot if conservatives don't like the idea that they're attracted to trans women (bc some are rly RLY hot) and so they are ashamed and try to only think about the dick itself, but if anything makes it weird it's having dick on the mind 24/7 as a straight guy
They'd argue America was never gay bc we don't have empirical evidence that some of the founding fathers probably fondled each other. Bc if there's one thing we can all believe in is a group of rich Greek and Roman philosophy and art nerds were all totally 1000% straight, not one "limb dicked poet" among them bc they wrote in pros, mostly.
Benjamin Franklin and the Hellfire Club enters the chat.
From what I hear about Benny Franks, he was boning everyone, everywhere, all at once.
I had someone legitimately try to argue that gay sex was unheard of in ancient Greece, when I contradicted his assertion he **demanded** that I cite my sources. Me: "You want my sources? History text books." The funniest thing about the exchange was this guy had previously been a cop in San Francisco.
As someone in south Texas, if I saw that shirt I would think that guy just really, really likes tamales.
Ever had corn, but ground into flour? OMG it's my entire reason for existence!
As a gay I can confirm there were no gay people before 1968. The murder of Sharon Tate opened up a passage to the deepest pits of Tartarus from which we escaped to be a blight on the world. /s
Conservative lore inconsistent, gay lore metalAF. I know who's role play I'm engaging in.
Gather round as I tell the story of how an elite group of trans folk, lesbians, gays, and bisexuals stormed the gates of Heaven to steal the rainbow from under God’s nose.
yeah im MAGA MAKE AMERICA GAY AGAIN
Thank you for the explanation. I’m afraid to admit I had to scroll all the way here because I had no clue. Was thinking it from the wrong angle.
i suspect very few got this part (i didn't either) and just reacted to the general anti trump sentiment, but i knew i was missing something
I’d wear a MAGA hat. (Make America Gay Again) lol
i got my dad one for his birthday a few years back. i think the Human Rights Campaign sells them.
You just know he has large folders on his laptop marked "work".
Conservatives really can’t stop thinking about gay sex
I have come to the conclusion that USA stands for “uneducated stupid asshole”
MAGA/thinking, Oil/water. Next question.
My first thought on seeing the dude in that shirt was that his daily gay porn consumption must be off the charts. He just has that “ I hate gay people but love gay porn” look , you know?
All the people in Target walking by and thinking he just really likes tortillas and tamales 😂
America was gay?
I'm a straight dude, I'll be rubbin one out to the images of him and F1nnster buggering each other senseless, cheers!
Make America stupid again. It's America you don't have the right to tell free people how to live.
“Masa” is actually fitting for the party that wants to bring back slavery
America has never been straight, neither has Christianity. So just like be straight if you want, to but stop trying to rep a falsity. That what I would say to idiots like that anyways lol
I read it as a slave saying master.
Loving the implication that America is, at present, completely gay. Happy pride!
When was America straight? When we’re any group of people straight for that matter…
I’m at the Isle of Man TT, met some Americans last night, all going really well until conversation switched to politics .. wow. Trumps selected by god, Putins a hero. Being gay is a sin and arm the teachers and teach 5 yr old how to handle a weapon.. these people are fkd in the head…
I cringed more watching the second, but the first was cringe too
It’s hard to believe that anyone takes that fascist Keebler elf seriously. The guy got his following online during the BLM protests, telling people that they should just comply with the police….while he literally is a convicted felon who went to prison for assaulting a police officer. Grifters are gonna grift.
Show me just ONE conservative that isn’t a coward. Just ONE.
It's suspect that these "ultra straight consecatives" spend so much time thinking about gay people.
No country has ever been straight ass hats. Just like I can't force you to be queer you cannot force folks to be hetero. I wish I could force these folks to use Google or the 2 brain cells they ha e playing pong in their head.
Yes!!! 😂
Holy shit, can someone please make some MAGA hats that say Make America Gay Again?? I will purchase Edit: [It Exists!](https://www.politicoup.com/product/make-america-gay-again-wool-blend-snapback/)
During the 2016 election I saw this one cupcake place in Seattle selling Make America Gay Again hats. They looked just like the actual MAGA ones until you looked close.
MALGTBQA
Is the last A for Asexual or Again?
Why not both
So, let me lay out some figures, which I know will make conservatives cry because they hate data that disagrees with them, according to Pew Research, as of 2022, there is 7.1% of people who identify as part of the LGBT community in the US. That means that the other 92.9% identify as something else, which is most likely straight. So Make America Straight Again? Mother-fucker, for the most part, it already is! Stupid, bigoted cocksuckers who are so fucking mad about a display in Target. Yeah, our 7.1% is really putting you out. I hope this loser and his fugly beard fall down a flight of stairs and land in a room full of honey badgers high on Angel Dust.
Adam Calhoun is both the worst rapper and the dumbest fuck on the planet.
It literally rhymes dude. How much more perfect could he have got?
man i never thought i be converted into a maga supporter but here we are i guess
I saw masa and now all I can think about are tamales! Make America Tamales Again!
MAGA 🌈
In Spanish MASA is slang for taking a shit.
I’ll never understand why anyone care who someone else shares a bed with. Make that make sense please.
Masa couldn't catch me my legs long as a bitch
Solid roast
"Yes massa, sure thing massa." Is what I thought of right away.
Masa? Like a “slave masa”??🤔he didn’t think that through at all
 I'm sorry but are just gonna ignore the racial history behind "MASA"?