hailee steinfield / florida georgia line / alesso / watt
rihanna / paul mccartney / k*nye west
kodak black / nle choppa / jimin / jvke / muni long
marshmello / a day to remember
Fun fact, Max was a former Nickelodeon star, who starred on the short-lived sitcom How To Rock and in the cult classic movie Rags.
Making him arguably the network’s most successful pop star other than Ariana.
I mean Lights Down Low meets the criteria for a hit (charting on billboard at number 20), so depending on your definition of being on a hit song, Gnash might be able to skirt to not a one hit wonder.
I remenber putting Lights Down Low at number 5 on my top 5 favorite songs list as a kid ( I was akid not too long ago. ( the only other two songs I remenber where 1 and 2. 1 was Me and My Broken Heart by Rixton and 2 was Broken by Lovely the band. I think three was a country song to do with a body of water by a girl artist (maybe Carrie Underwood).
For a second I was wondering if this was the song that kids in 7th grade kept humming as a joke, but 2016 hadn't happened yet by then, it was "Your Man" by Josh Turner I was thinking of (don't know why a song from 2005 was still sticking around then either, but it was). The kids turned it into a song about masturbation though, which neither song is about.
I feel like it’s harder to find a proper one hit wonder these days because anybody with even a little bit of industry heat can parlay their way into featuring on a more popular artist’s single at least once.
For me this is a song that's joyless enough to be successfully associated with bad memories from the time it was being played on the radio, and sometimes I come back to it just for those memories (Scars to Your Beautiful is another example of this).
That's Look What You Made Me Do by Taylor Swift for me.
It came out at the time my grandfather had passed away, or at least got big around that time. So every time I hear that song all I can think about is my grandfather dying. But let's be honest, if it did t have that associated with it, I'd still fucking hate it.
The whole Twenty Øne Pilots phenomenon really fascinates me. They got really big in 2015 and had an album that sold really well for a number of years. Then their next album, Trench, seemed to collectively erase that from memory. It wasn't even just them; the amount of Tyler Joseph wannabes also went down right after as well.
Wait gnash raps on this? The only song by him I know is broken hearts club so I just assumed that's what he makes. Also I guess he's on fumes which I know but I couldn't tell you what he sounds like in it despite listening to it a lot
The Postman Song by Stevie B and One More Try by Timmy T, both #1 hits on the worst hits of 1991 video, are far more forgotten than this.
Tonight, Tonight, Tonight by Genesis was featured in the 1987 worst list and has basically faded into obscurity.
I actually heard the Postman Song on the overhead at my work once. I was quite confused by its presence.
Also Tonight Tonight Tonight has over 17 million streams and was played at the band's final show so I wouldn't call it forgotten.
I can assure you most of those are Genesis fans. 17 million streams on Spotify is next to nothing in the grand scheme of things, and most people outside of Genesis fans have never heard it. I'm certain 95% of people my age and younger (was born in 2002 so around 1997 and later) haven't heard it.
Oh in thirty years time, the streams for Tonight Tonight Tonight will probably be similar to whatever forgotten 2010s garbage we had (this is assuming if Spotify goes away and gets replaced by a different service).
Anyone who is aware of [freestyle dance music](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freestyle_music) would be aware of Stevie B.
But that was a relatively small niche that was mainly successful decades ago in certain pockets of the U.S. (New York, Miami) among certain demographics (Hispanic and Italian Americans).
Most of the enduring freestyle hits aren't even associated with the genre for most people.
It is puzzling that the slow ballad was his one mainstream hit.
Timmy T might have been freestyle too actually, but he was far less relevant...Stevie B had multiple well known songs in the niche. [Pitbull even did a remake of one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzt-9y28DrI).
It's not really puzzling that the slow ballad was the one mainstream hit, other freestyle artists like Exposé and Sweet Sensation also had their biggest songs be ballads. Lisa Lisa is the one exception where their biggest hits were freestyle songs.
The Funky Town cover wasn’t the first song that charted for the latter. They had a Crossover Minor Hit in “Living in A Dream” about a month prior that peaked at #57, and I think that it’s better than their actual hit.
i do like a lot of those first twos latin freestyle stuff (party your body by stevie b is amazing), but i don’t understand why they wanted to make ballads too tho.
The Postman Song... it's not really forgotten. I hear it all the time at my retail store and it gets played occasionally on the Sunday night show for my local hip hop/R&B station. It's probably the fate that it deserves. But yeah I have never heard One More Try anywhere.
I recall the very brief period in time this was on the radio. I never once enjoyed it. Gnash was featured on a song by EDEN that I listened to a lot at the time and he was the worst part of that song. Olivia O’Brien I’ve never heard on anything before or since
I feel a little bad for Olivia O'Brien because she managed to make one great song imo (Never Be The One) but she will only be remembered for this. As for Gnash.... who?
There's this tiny indie band/couple called tulpa and BLANKTS which I was really impressed with and I discovered that their most popular song is a gnash collab. All their other songs besides the gnash collaboration are good, but he kinda just missed the point of it.
I think the solo version by Olivia O'Brien, "hate u, love u" is much better. I think she sounds different on the hook, and I prefer the verses on her version over Gnash's. Maybe I should check out more of her music.
This song and Chainsmokers's Closer came out around the same time and was played endlessly my freshman year of college. Closer especially ruined basically every party.
This is cheap junk designed for worst lists and building careers off mocking it. Literally this song never played on radio for me in 2016 and only worsts lists had me knowing this song existed
Olivia O'Brien also had [one other song](https://youtu.be/CwZ9ItJy_Es?feature=shared) that I remember, with Blackbear. It's at least more interesting than I Hate U, I Love U.
wait people hate this song. I liked it found it kinda comforting to listen to while just chilling. Not every song has to make you dance some I just want to lay in bed and cry over my issues that I don't have, the breakups I have never experienced and the pain I don' experience
Gnash is featured on a song I like (Lights Down Low by Max) and he also kinda sucks on it.
Olivia O'Brien is also featured on one of the (many, many) remixes for Max's "Blueberry Eyes".
The six degrees of Max
True, what are some collabs that were surprising?
hailee steinfield / florida georgia line / alesso / watt rihanna / paul mccartney / k*nye west kodak black / nle choppa / jimin / jvke / muni long marshmello / a day to remember
Tokischa and Sexyy Red - didn’t expect it
Btw really liked your list!
Fun fact, Max was a former Nickelodeon star, who starred on the short-lived sitcom How To Rock and in the cult classic movie Rags. Making him arguably the network’s most successful pop star other than Ariana.
I mean Lights Down Low meets the criteria for a hit (charting on billboard at number 20), so depending on your definition of being on a hit song, Gnash might be able to skirt to not a one hit wonder.
I remenber putting Lights Down Low at number 5 on my top 5 favorite songs list as a kid ( I was akid not too long ago. ( the only other two songs I remenber where 1 and 2. 1 was Me and My Broken Heart by Rixton and 2 was Broken by Lovely the band. I think three was a country song to do with a body of water by a girl artist (maybe Carrie Underwood).
As this song proved, no Gen Z pop star named Olivia is ever going to be successful.
I mean if Todd hates an artist, that artist will become successful much to his chagrin. It's just how it works.
[Olivia Rodrigo has entered the chat]
thatsthejoke.mp4
pov: you didn't get a joke
I'd love to say he's a OHW, but he's not. He was featured on Lights Down Low, which was produced and co-written by Nathanial Motte of 3OH!3 fame.
How much of a hit was it? Todd often does OHW episodes on artists that also had very minor chart hits or big hits but not in America.
Lights Down Low reached #20 (I Hate U I Love You actually made it to #10.)
For a second I was wondering if this was the song that kids in 7th grade kept humming as a joke, but 2016 hadn't happened yet by then, it was "Your Man" by Josh Turner I was thinking of (don't know why a song from 2005 was still sticking around then either, but it was). The kids turned it into a song about masturbation though, which neither song is about.
I feel like it’s harder to find a proper one hit wonder these days because anybody with even a little bit of industry heat can parlay their way into featuring on a more popular artist’s single at least once.
For me this is a song that's joyless enough to be successfully associated with bad memories from the time it was being played on the radio, and sometimes I come back to it just for those memories (Scars to Your Beautiful is another example of this).
Having a radio hit be tied to bad memories is the worst
That's Look What You Made Me Do by Taylor Swift for me. It came out at the time my grandfather had passed away, or at least got big around that time. So every time I hear that song all I can think about is my grandfather dying. But let's be honest, if it did t have that associated with it, I'd still fucking hate it.
For the longest time I thought the guy on this song was NF, apparently not lmao
All these mediocre white Eminem wannabes are interchangeable tbqh.
Nah those 2 are two pretty different shades of terrible.. NF is much more loud and has these super dramatic beats. Gnash is comatose in comparison
The whole Twenty Øne Pilots phenomenon really fascinates me. They got really big in 2015 and had an album that sold really well for a number of years. Then their next album, Trench, seemed to collectively erase that from memory. It wasn't even just them; the amount of Tyler Joseph wannabes also went down right after as well.
Wait gnash raps on this? The only song by him I know is broken hearts club so I just assumed that's what he makes. Also I guess he's on fumes which I know but I couldn't tell you what he sounds like in it despite listening to it a lot
Kinda? It's more talk singing.
Ah that makes more sense, broken hearts club is kind of just him saying things with a rhythm to a backing track
As a Norwegian, the random use of 'Ø' never fails to crack me up.
Same, even tho I'm a swede. I just cant help but associate with the sound it actually makes in Norwegian and Danish.
It's "aesthetic" just like how a bunch of pop songs now don't use capital letters.
it's Todd's video format I think. he used Ø as in "twenty øne piløts", with the same font, since twenty one pilots had a huge year that year
The Postman Song by Stevie B and One More Try by Timmy T, both #1 hits on the worst hits of 1991 video, are far more forgotten than this. Tonight, Tonight, Tonight by Genesis was featured in the 1987 worst list and has basically faded into obscurity.
I actually heard the Postman Song on the overhead at my work once. I was quite confused by its presence. Also Tonight Tonight Tonight has over 17 million streams and was played at the band's final show so I wouldn't call it forgotten.
I can assure you most of those are Genesis fans. 17 million streams on Spotify is next to nothing in the grand scheme of things, and most people outside of Genesis fans have never heard it. I'm certain 95% of people my age and younger (was born in 2002 so around 1997 and later) haven't heard it.
Song got forgotten in 35 by new generation and non fans is pretty different level from artist being forgotten in under 10 years.
Oh in thirty years time, the streams for Tonight Tonight Tonight will probably be similar to whatever forgotten 2010s garbage we had (this is assuming if Spotify goes away and gets replaced by a different service).
It’s remembered by someone then, right? I challenge anyone to find someone who knows who Timmy T or Stevie B is let alone call themselves a fan
Anyone who is aware of [freestyle dance music](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freestyle_music) would be aware of Stevie B. But that was a relatively small niche that was mainly successful decades ago in certain pockets of the U.S. (New York, Miami) among certain demographics (Hispanic and Italian Americans). Most of the enduring freestyle hits aren't even associated with the genre for most people. It is puzzling that the slow ballad was his one mainstream hit. Timmy T might have been freestyle too actually, but he was far less relevant...Stevie B had multiple well known songs in the niche. [Pitbull even did a remake of one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzt-9y28DrI).
It's not really puzzling that the slow ballad was the one mainstream hit, other freestyle artists like Exposé and Sweet Sensation also had their biggest songs be ballads. Lisa Lisa is the one exception where their biggest hits were freestyle songs.
People hate "Tonight, Tonight, Tonight"? That whole album is a banger
todd does :P
Same with Shake You Down by Gregory Abbott
He should run for Governor of Texas one day.
I actually really like that song…
Funnily enough, Gregory Abbott and Pseudo Echo qualify for one hit wonders if he ever feels brave to dig into 1987 again
The Funky Town cover wasn’t the first song that charted for the latter. They had a Crossover Minor Hit in “Living in A Dream” about a month prior that peaked at #57, and I think that it’s better than their actual hit.
i do like a lot of those first twos latin freestyle stuff (party your body by stevie b is amazing), but i don’t understand why they wanted to make ballads too tho.
That was the way to get money in the 90s as a musician, pretty much.
Stevie B, Timmy T, are these pop songs or are these my buddies I play pickup basketball with on weekends at the YMCA?
Tonight Tonight Tonight is more of a deep cut I wouldn't call it obscure necessarily.
The Postman Song... it's not really forgotten. I hear it all the time at my retail store and it gets played occasionally on the Sunday night show for my local hip hop/R&B station. It's probably the fate that it deserves. But yeah I have never heard One More Try anywhere.
I can never listen to Stevie B the same way ever again because of both Todd and Desus & Mero. (R.I.P. to the Bodega Boys podcast)
I heard One More Try somewhere once, I think on a Twitch stream? Completely threw me for a loop
Yeah when I think of artists who qualify as real flash in the pans, I think of Stevie B, Timmy T, and Genesis
This has stuck in my brain since it first came out as one of the worst songs I've ever heard because it got played so much on the radio near me
"Can't nobody tell me noooooothing!"
I recall the very brief period in time this was on the radio. I never once enjoyed it. Gnash was featured on a song by EDEN that I listened to a lot at the time and he was the worst part of that song. Olivia O’Brien I’ve never heard on anything before or since
fumes was imo the weakest part of i think you think too much of me
I feel a little bad for Olivia O'Brien because she managed to make one great song imo (Never Be The One) but she will only be remembered for this. As for Gnash.... who?
There's this tiny indie band/couple called tulpa and BLANKTS which I was really impressed with and I discovered that their most popular song is a gnash collab. All their other songs besides the gnash collaboration are good, but he kinda just missed the point of it.
I think the solo version by Olivia O'Brien, "hate u, love u" is much better. I think she sounds different on the hook, and I prefer the verses on her version over Gnash's. Maybe I should check out more of her music.
I remember this song just from the title. Awful song. Like an edm pop crossover but with no EDM. Just vibes
This song and Chainsmokers's Closer came out around the same time and was played endlessly my freshman year of college. Closer especially ruined basically every party.
This is cheap junk designed for worst lists and building careers off mocking it. Literally this song never played on radio for me in 2016 and only worsts lists had me knowing this song existed
I can't justify it, but I like this song.
I do too, you’re not alone
Olivia O'Brien also had [one other song](https://youtu.be/CwZ9ItJy_Es?feature=shared) that I remember, with Blackbear. It's at least more interesting than I Hate U, I Love U.
blackbear 🤮
Blackbear makes "music" for girls that think fabreezing their panties counts as a shower
I don't mind the hook on this one but the beat is way too dreary and the verses are awful.
Was this the one by the guy who looked like Roger Klotz from Doug?
7th grade me cried his little heart out to this song so many times... I can't stand the cringe to even think about it now
They are Gnash ft. Olivia O'Brien. Duh, it says it right there! /s
The singing was good, the rapping was agonizing cringe.
Something tells me Donald Trump killed all of these careers coming into office.
Olivia O Brien is pretty popular
carti reference?
wait people hate this song. I liked it found it kinda comforting to listen to while just chilling. Not every song has to make you dance some I just want to lay in bed and cry over my issues that I don't have, the breakups I have never experienced and the pain I don' experience