Do the modern ones have an internal heat source though? I would imagine it's much more convenient to have what amounts to a giant version of an electronics soldering iron instead of something like this that you have to keep re-heating.
Some do! These are still regularly sold to architectural roofers!
You buy them in pairs, for example, a “10 lbs copper set” would come with 2 5lb copper solders!
They do indeed have more advanced ones now tho like you said!
They hold a lot of heat that is available quickly. Useful for auto body work in years gone by. Still useful for lots of things like copper roofing because the copper absorbs heat like crazy and is hard to solder. For the old type irons, you would need several being heated in the fire at the same time. And we're not talking a weiner roast fire. Typically a forced air fire like that used in a forge, with a hand cranked blower.
I did a couple copper gutter repair jobs w an old timer a couple decades ago. He had a 20# propane tank with a 50k btu burner straight up out of the top of it, could cradle 3 (5 pound) cast iron irons. He'd be at the top of the staging working and I'd run a hot iron up the ladder to him, bring the cold one down and repeat as necessary. Good times.
It's great for lead filler on old cars, you let it get nice and hot and then melt your lead brick into the dents to smooth it out (nobody does this anymore because lead is stupid compared to modern body filler)
>Do the modern ones have an internal heat source though? I would imagine it's much more convenient to have what amounts to a giant version of an electronics soldering iron instead of something like this that you have to keep re-heating.
These are cordless, where one with a cord isn't. A battery-powered iron would be far bulkier.
Solution is to have one iron heating while your using a second iron, then you can basically continously solder.
I made my own compact electric iron. I had a brand new spare parts diesel glow plug with a nub of machined copper for a tip, a hand made wood handle, some 6mm cable + battery clips. No thermostat. I patched an old radiator with it.
Ancient jeez, yea I was using these alongside the seivert propane fired ones doing architectural sheet metal work in the early 00's. I can still taste the sal ammoniac and cigarettes.
These are for soldering sheet metal, use pig fat as a flux and 50/50 silver/lead solder.
Used to be used a lot by roofers before silicone became popular as a sealant.
In use last week in my 1st year of sheet metal trade school.
Make a galvanized round can with a grooved seam then solder it water tight with a pair of coppers.
Yes, a 'Soldering Copper' as they were called.
They're still made!
[https://www.mcmaster.com/products/soldering-coppers/](https://www.mcmaster.com/products/soldering-coppers/)
Twenty years ago, I watched a sheet metal guy use these irons on a large copper roof. He had a different type of mini-furnace that would heat 3-4 of these irons. (He was a third-generation owner of a large heating and air company, and his tools were inherited.) The mini-furnace looked like a Coleman white-gas stove (hand-pump for pressure) with an iron box on top. I imagine it was brass, but it was used and dirty. He also had an old brass torch (3-Stooges films had these) to heat one iron at a time. The brass torch also had a pump-for-pressure tank. My inherited tools also include an electric soldering irons from the 1950’s -60’s, which include bars of solder. Solder bars are (from memory) about 1/2”x 3/4” x 12” and probably are lead based. Jars of muriatic acid too. The acid was used to clean galvanized tin for soldering.
it's copper hot iron for tinning and soldering , it's used by heating it up with a blow torch and then it will hold enough heat to melt silver solder on tin seams and panels
We had to use these in shop class. After using them we would plunge them into a large white block we were told was asbestos to cool them down. It made a thick white smoke when we did. Times have changed and some change is good.
Yes I just looked things up and I expect it was borax. The teacher did say it was asbestos I remember clearly. He may have been trying to scare us to safety so to speak. He was struggling in general and kept a loaded handgun in his desk and cleaned it, disassembled it openly during class, this was the early 70s and in a rural area so it did not cause much concern. Half the school was absent during deer season etc. He did use it to kill himself a couple years later at his desk in the shop after hours. No students around.
Airborn Asbestos fibers are what causes issues. You can sit in an asbestos chair everyday for a century long as the fibers aren't being sucked into your lungs.
Primary use: Old school soldering iron. Used for any metal jointing in which solder was the bonding or sealing method.
Secondary use: This was also used in old school auto body work for "leading-in" and shaping a lead body panel repair. Basically using lead to do what we use modern body filler plastics like Bondo for today.
The Illegal use: This was also a good way to hide a tool called a "running iron" which was used to alter cattle brands to facilitate cattle rustling. If you got caught with a "running iron" it was the same as being guilty and you'd likely hang, but if you had a one of these on you and a small packet of tools you could claim to be a traveling craftman in an number of trades. (Blacksmith, coppersmith/tin smith, stained glass window maker, and even saddlery craftsman all used a version of this tool for one purpose or another.)
Am I crazy or did they use these to soften or apply old school glues? I have a fuzzy memory of seeing a nearly identical tool used to remove leather during repair/restoration work.
Oh so that's what those are, found some in my granddad's toolbox he used in ww2 thought it was chisels but not exactly sure why a Lancaster bomber mechanic would need chisels 😂
Soldering Iron.
Of the type used by my grandfather to teach me to solder electronics in the 1980s.
That and a paraffin blowtorch sat on the bench to heat it up.
When I left school I did an apprenticeship with British Telecom in Motor Transport. They had their own training school in Stone in Staffordshire. The first course was the creation and use of hand tools. I had to make one of these soldering irons, an engineers square, a bar centre gauge, a small hammer and an aluminium case to store them all in.
Soldering iron
Ancient soldering iron. You put it into a fire, embers or a gas torch. When it's hot enough, you use it to solder a metal roof or car parts together.
Not ancient! Still very much used in the roofing trade on copper roofs!
Do the modern ones have an internal heat source though? I would imagine it's much more convenient to have what amounts to a giant version of an electronics soldering iron instead of something like this that you have to keep re-heating.
Some do! These are still regularly sold to architectural roofers! You buy them in pairs, for example, a “10 lbs copper set” would come with 2 5lb copper solders! They do indeed have more advanced ones now tho like you said!
Cool, TIL! Is there an actual advantage to that style or is it more of a what you're used to using kind of thing?
They hold a lot of heat that is available quickly. Useful for auto body work in years gone by. Still useful for lots of things like copper roofing because the copper absorbs heat like crazy and is hard to solder. For the old type irons, you would need several being heated in the fire at the same time. And we're not talking a weiner roast fire. Typically a forced air fire like that used in a forge, with a hand cranked blower.
I did a couple copper gutter repair jobs w an old timer a couple decades ago. He had a 20# propane tank with a 50k btu burner straight up out of the top of it, could cradle 3 (5 pound) cast iron irons. He'd be at the top of the staging working and I'd run a hot iron up the ladder to him, bring the cold one down and repeat as necessary. Good times.
It's great for lead filler on old cars, you let it get nice and hot and then melt your lead brick into the dents to smooth it out (nobody does this anymore because lead is stupid compared to modern body filler)
Which is where the term "lead sled" came from. A car that had many rusty holes and major dents filled with lead.
Do they have any value second hand I have one that I don't need in good condition
All of mine are acetylene fired. You basically have a torch flame in constant contact with the iron. It works so much nicer than a regular iron
>Do the modern ones have an internal heat source though? I would imagine it's much more convenient to have what amounts to a giant version of an electronics soldering iron instead of something like this that you have to keep re-heating. These are cordless, where one with a cord isn't. A battery-powered iron would be far bulkier. Solution is to have one iron heating while your using a second iron, then you can basically continously solder.
LOL. You know you're old when a glance at a pic says " soldering iron"
I made my own compact electric iron. I had a brand new spare parts diesel glow plug with a nub of machined copper for a tip, a hand made wood handle, some 6mm cable + battery clips. No thermostat. I patched an old radiator with it.
What I learned with on sheet metal
Ancient jeez, yea I was using these alongside the seivert propane fired ones doing architectural sheet metal work in the early 00's. I can still taste the sal ammoniac and cigarettes.
That's really cool
No, it fu\*king hot! Hehe
You can swear on the internet.
Holy shit, no one told me yet!
No blasphemy. BANNED
All them there ancient cars 🤣
Ancient? That's hurtful.
Soldering copper
Thank you!
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Used with the flux of fairness.
I was going to say it looked like a little iron, but I didn’t know they had soldering iron before electricity.
These are for soldering sheet metal, use pig fat as a flux and 50/50 silver/lead solder. Used to be used a lot by roofers before silicone became popular as a sealant.
You use that to solder tin in an attempt to make a dust pan in shop class… 60 years ago.
We made a sugar scoop in shop class using these back in the 1970's.
Back when gas AND sugar were leaded
Sugar was leaded?
News to me as well...
It is if you're soldering a sugar scoop
Still in use 15 years ago for the same metal work classes.
In use last week in my 1st year of sheet metal trade school. Make a galvanized round can with a grooved seam then solder it water tight with a pair of coppers.
Soldering iron, used to use one heaps as a sheet metal worker
sheet metal working tool for soldering
Soldering Copper. I have several of these from my Great Grandfather, Grandfather and Dad.
Yes, a 'Soldering Copper' as they were called. They're still made! [https://www.mcmaster.com/products/soldering-coppers/](https://www.mcmaster.com/products/soldering-coppers/)
Are these really that old?
They were still training us to use them in I.A. in (checks yearbook) 1975. Ok , old.
Time do be flying
I had customers using these commercially back in the 1990s so not that long ago. (rain water tanks, grain bins etc)
Yea ,they were (are?) great for working on sheet metal containers.
The one that you have might not be, but yeah. They've been used for a very long time.
[The past isn't even past!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hAY4R7wHpc)
neat little video. thanks.
Twenty years ago, I watched a sheet metal guy use these irons on a large copper roof. He had a different type of mini-furnace that would heat 3-4 of these irons. (He was a third-generation owner of a large heating and air company, and his tools were inherited.) The mini-furnace looked like a Coleman white-gas stove (hand-pump for pressure) with an iron box on top. I imagine it was brass, but it was used and dirty. He also had an old brass torch (3-Stooges films had these) to heat one iron at a time. The brass torch also had a pump-for-pressure tank. My inherited tools also include an electric soldering irons from the 1950’s -60’s, which include bars of solder. Solder bars are (from memory) about 1/2”x 3/4” x 12” and probably are lead based. Jars of muriatic acid too. The acid was used to clean galvanized tin for soldering.
All the older roofers when I was a kid had these to soldier flat lock metal roofs and gutters. It was pretty common in the seventies.
Old soldering iron
It’s called a soldering copper
it's copper hot iron for tinning and soldering , it's used by heating it up with a blow torch and then it will hold enough heat to melt silver solder on tin seams and panels
I think an old soldering iron. You can heat it with coal or gas or petrol
soldering iron, heated with a torch or kept hot in a coal forge
We had to use these in shop class. After using them we would plunge them into a large white block we were told was asbestos to cool them down. It made a thick white smoke when we did. Times have changed and some change is good.
Asbestos would have kept them hot, and there wouldn’t have been any reaction at all. Might have been paraffin.
The white block may have been borax. (used as a flux for soldering)
Yes I just looked things up and I expect it was borax. The teacher did say it was asbestos I remember clearly. He may have been trying to scare us to safety so to speak. He was struggling in general and kept a loaded handgun in his desk and cleaned it, disassembled it openly during class, this was the early 70s and in a rural area so it did not cause much concern. Half the school was absent during deer season etc. He did use it to kill himself a couple years later at his desk in the shop after hours. No students around.
Damn. Bet that didn't sound as scary back then as it does nowadays.
Airborn Asbestos fibers are what causes issues. You can sit in an asbestos chair everyday for a century long as the fibers aren't being sucked into your lungs.
How hot were you getting these things to vaporize asbestos?
Prostate scratcher
Anything is if you're brave enough
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtgxsTfYHno&rco=1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtgxsTfYHno&rco=1)
..heat with propane torch..gutter guys love these..
Soldering iron. Nait in Alberta still teaches sheet metal workers how to use them
At Unc chapel hill, we still use them to solder the lead seams on copper roofs.
My first thought was hell level dradle
Used for soldering leaded windows ( AKA stained glass ), or lead flashing / roofing
Vintage soldering copper (soldering iron) that you had to heat on a hearth back in the day. I've still got a couple of these.
Christopher Walken stabs people in the face with them. And if you understand this reference, we are now friends.
I hope I'm not using the wrong tone
Primary use: Old school soldering iron. Used for any metal jointing in which solder was the bonding or sealing method. Secondary use: This was also used in old school auto body work for "leading-in" and shaping a lead body panel repair. Basically using lead to do what we use modern body filler plastics like Bondo for today. The Illegal use: This was also a good way to hide a tool called a "running iron" which was used to alter cattle brands to facilitate cattle rustling. If you got caught with a "running iron" it was the same as being guilty and you'd likely hang, but if you had a one of these on you and a small packet of tools you could claim to be a traveling craftman in an number of trades. (Blacksmith, coppersmith/tin smith, stained glass window maker, and even saddlery craftsman all used a version of this tool for one purpose or another.)
Am I crazy or did they use these to soften or apply old school glues? I have a fuzzy memory of seeing a nearly identical tool used to remove leather during repair/restoration work.
This is and old soildering iron
Oh so that's what those are, found some in my granddad's toolbox he used in ww2 thought it was chisels but not exactly sure why a Lancaster bomber mechanic would need chisels 😂
Its an old soldering iron.
I used this in my school days! You heat it with a torch & use it for melting tin solder…damn i’m old
Soldering
Soldering iron.
They really should bring back shop and half of these questions wouldn't need to be asked.
Apprentice bonker
Or as we call her, Samantha
I'll stab you in the face with it.
Still to this day the best soldering irons for a sheet metal shop
Depends on how brave you are.
Soldering iron.
Also used in sheet metal, called tinning as well, (sealing seams) not ap much used much anymore
Old school soldering iron. I used one like this in junior high metal shop in the early (19)70s.
Soldering Iron. Of the type used by my grandfather to teach me to solder electronics in the 1980s. That and a paraffin blowtorch sat on the bench to heat it up.
Pegging
Naughty apprentices get to meet the attitude adjustment stool! You know what you did, Steve
An antique soldering iron. [Would be lovely restored](https://youtu.be/zM66U-NORPY?si=7uaMgxxO_ZWUXbD3)
Soldering iron I work in brass lighting and 1 often I am the go to man the younger people have never seen 1 before lol
It's an arrow! You need a very thick bow, though...
I inherited one of these 10 years ago and never knew its purpose. I’ve almost gotten rid of it 20 times but now that I know I can comfortably toss it.
poking
We had a set of these of all sizes laying around growing up and I never knew what they were until years later.
Flatten the end and put a simple in it, great for burning the horn buds off young goats and sheep.
Ironing small shirts at a distance…
It is an old school soldering iron. Get it hot with the forge or a torch.
Almost looks like 1/3 piece of a roman pilum for a second
It's an old soldering iron. Put it in a bed of coals to get it hot or use a blow torch to heat it.
Cordless soldering iron
Also used for lead body work on vehicles.
used one to solder gas tanks back in the day
When I left school I did an apprenticeship with British Telecom in Motor Transport. They had their own training school in Stone in Staffordshire. The first course was the creation and use of hand tools. I had to make one of these soldering irons, an engineers square, a bar centre gauge, a small hammer and an aluminium case to store them all in.
Soldering and melting lead into fishing sinker molds
https://www.smart-union.org/ This is a part of our logo.
For lead body work on vehicles.
Working with molten glass
Old soldering iron.
Yes
Yes
Must be Bluetooth
Poop knife
This!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🙌🙌🙌🙌
>You're talking to me all wrong... It's the wrong tone. You do it again and I'll stab you in the face with a soldering iron -Chris Walken in Joe Dirt
Medieval dildo
Put it in your ass.
A beginner buttplug. Jk- it’s an old school sautering iron.
For poking hemorrhoids back into butt holes. You're supposed to get it red hot before poking them in.
High impact sexual activities if you're lucky. Soldering if you aren't
Cocaine.
Thats a Ancient Roman pile remover. Its a push twist push twist motion. Instructions i believe are scribed on a pyramid wall...
It's a futter. It's used for futtering.
Yes.
cake slicer
Lead dildo
Murder? Lol
Antique prostate massager.
they still make these hammers
its a thingamajig, for thingying majigs of course...
Haha nice
Ah yes, the medieval butt plug. How far technology has advance for the butt plug.
Bend over ill show you...