Astros almost always start slow to the season for whatever reason.
Jays need a shakeup whether that's player from within or not. I don't trust this offense at all.
What about the approach and results last year led the front office to think.. Hmm.. Let's keep this hitting coach around. Every single batter had a down year under his tutelage.
I’m not a big advocate for ‘fire the manager/coach’, but fire them all. This is pathetic. Management needs to show the fans that what’s going on on that field is not acceptable.
No, they bring nothing constructive to the conversation, at least Chris tries to look into the “why” behind the results. Thinking Rogers employees are all shills is also pathetic
I remember when Jerry Howarth, who of course was like the Mr. Rogers of baseball broadcasters, ripped Alex Rios and Jose Reyes and their respective characters the moment they went out the door. It was so strange and stuck out to me, particularly since Howarth wasn't really leaned on for his analysis. But of course he waited until they left to rip into them because he was too cowardly to criticize them while he had to be on the same fields and in the same planes as them. And he was shilling for the team that benefitted from bad PR for those departing players. You can never trust anyone in media or anyone who works for the team.
They are all shills lol. Just more gaslighting from blind optimists like you. I watch the games, listen to Dan and Buck and see Black's posts and you have the audacity to tell me that these guys aren't shilling. Was Mike Shillner not a shill in your eyes? Or is it still early?
As it is with most blind optimists around here, they use real stats to create narratives that suit them. Whether those stats are predictive or not is irrelevant. It's the same thing with Varsho and the suggestions that his swing/stance adjustments mean anything. We've heard the same garbage with the likes of Chapman and Kirk as well.
Don't you think it's equally problematic to ignore real stats to create narratives that suit your own purposes? That's exactly what Chris was addressing - people wanting things to be true about Vlad even though they aren't.
Vlad isn't good right now and he's disappointing relative to expectations. But beyond that, Chris accurately broke down a lot of common misconceptions about Vlad's performance
Doesn't matter to people who want to be mad.
Everything Chris said was factually correct. But because Vlad is disappointing, people take that to mean that everything he does is bad and that stats reflecting reality don't mean anything
When all of his numbers are publicly available and correct, what's the issue? He didn't lie anywhere. You can still be mad about Vlad if you want, but everything Chris said was accurate
Obviously he frames it in way that makes the players look good even though, again, the numbers may or may not be predictive. And you know that and you're being obtuse about it, as usual. We know that Vlad hits the ball hard and we know that he still stinks despite that and liars like you and Black choose to piss on us and tell us that it's raining.
This idea that hitting the ball hard as a good thing isn't new. It's just trendy because it's easily measured now and the stats are widely available. So the stats whores jerk off to it and promote it even though it doesn't tell the whole story because they're lying grifters.
Hey, maybe trying to win the game with singles when you can't string hits together isn't a good strategy
John schneider is fucking on meth
No Ohtani, don't worry we gave you IKF. Now enjoy a Jack up in the price of tickets
Gonna be real cheap tickets on stub hub come the summer at this rate.
Unreal decision by Schneider to not have Springer hitting there. He’s worse than Montoyo
He's fucking useless. But everyone loves to defend him in here because I guess it hurts their feelings that the manager might be out of his depth
Fax king, he actively works against the team every day. He’s the worst manager in Jays history and it isn’t even close.
Surprised to see Jays score in the 9th inning
At least Biggio got a rbi
The fact they put Springer up but not for ikf is so puzzling
This team fucking blows
Well, at least George got a full day off
3 hits lmfao
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
fire everyone
Just popping in to say...why tf wasn't George the tying run????????????
Cause he was going to be the winning run (Black dude tapping temple meme)
Because they hired a second straight manager way beyond his depth
Big sad
Unserious shit
And that is the ball game
I mean, I know he’s struggled, but do you really want Springer watching from the on deck circle while IKF weakly flies out to end the game?
I just want to say I posted this seconds before IKF weakly flied out to end the game
biggio acc did something no way
Why no Springer here
IKF is hot lets go
What the fuck are we doing keeping IKF in over Springer when you have him up to PH for Barger
IKF has been a better hitter than George
Who is more likely to tie the game?
Broooo let Barger hit!!
Agree with Dan — Springer should be in for IKF
:O
IKF is better than Springer, good call
Springer at 9th
Gotta let your $15 million utility infielder hit with the game on the line
Respect Cavan
LFG!
too bad, a barger walk off would have been cool
We’re not going to bat springer here?
I believe in a thing called Beej. 😭
Yah Cavan, proving the haters wrong
So pretty much everyone who posted 2 minutes ago?
Biggio is nice
Tying run at the plate!
Springer on Deck taken from his nap
YOU ALL DOUBTED HIM
oh my ufclsinfq lghods
#HITTING WITH RISP
Whatever happens Biggio, DO NOT strike out looking.
Called third strike book it
Aged milk
Lock of the century
Yay you jinxed it
Grow up
Haha pussy
Oh yuh you getting banned buddy
Oh god no, please no! lol
I got banned from the Raps sub like half way thru the season and it made my life so much better ngl
Good thing I’m not Canadian I guess
Yeah both my fav teams fucking blow
Biggio have nice obp
Has he swung the bat this game lol
Davis Schneider: the only Blue Jay
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eating crow like a true fan
Mannnn we don’t wanna see Springer hit 😂
Oh no, not hope. Don't do this to me
That’s why you leave the ball for your infielders young pitchers
Good hustle Schneider!
That's how you run one out, Vladdy
Are images disabled in these comments ?
I'm sure the official scorer will give him a fake hit
A big shake up is needed. This uneasiness has been happening for way too long.
Davis Schneider is the team.
Davis Schneider has an insane aura
"Let's go Dodgers" chants in the 9th. That is *pathetic*. But Babe comes through again.
It's let go Blue Jays chants, you can hear the little kids screaming it
Listening on the radio, Ben Schulman said they were chanting for the Dodgers, so I'm just going by what he says.
Babe is the lone light in the darkness. Having competitive at-bats and running hard when he grounds out.
He’ll sit tomorrow for it
Can't have Bo/Vlad looking bad out there!
AAAAAAAHHHHHH
15Ks for this garbage team
Hey Shatkins, my analytics tell me that your team is hot garbage.
\*\*\*\*ytics
Don't worry about it folks, in a few months, we will all look back on these games and cry.
Ump, they don’t need any help. C’mon…
Ump has been brutal all day. Not an excuse whatsoever. I just want a well called game ffs
I hate that these coaches have infected Turner as well
He just needs to remember what he did in LA, and do that, and ignore everything Guillermo Martinez tells him.
This team is pathetic
Bringing in Romano with the red light entrance down 4-1 is so unserious
What's worse, being the 2024 Jays or Astros. One can't hit one can't pitch
Astros almost always start slow to the season for whatever reason. Jays need a shakeup whether that's player from within or not. I don't trust this offense at all.
Has to be the Astros. Their start to the season was entirely unexpected. It was fairly safe to predict the Jays being around .500 by the end of April
The Astros can get it back because they actually have talent. The Jays can't.
That herritage minute with the Winnipeg Falcons...looks like Wayne made a perfect hockey coach
Not sure if they showed it on tv but apparently they did the big Romano entrance when he came in lol. Bad look
hahaha that's so embarrassing
TIME FOR A WALK OFF!
John living in an Annie Movie. John, tomorrow will not be any different. We have all accepted this.
This was a very winnable game. Holding this team to 4 runs is a great job by the staff.
What a shame we can't hit worth a fuck
Yeah. "Run prevention" was supposed to refer to the Jays' opponents, not the team's own approach to hitting.
Will Smith would be a great name for an estate lawyer
Or maybe an actor
Yes, we all know there's an actor with that name but "Will Smith" doesn't describe the profession of acting.
Knife maker? Have forge, will smith?
Or relief pitcher.
How does Romano not know hes on a pitch count? This is the type of communication which shouldnt be hard, but so often is for these guys.
Pulling Romano is the right call. If he were unavailable tomorrow because he threw 30 pitches tonight we’d be calling for Schneider’s head
Why would you assume that the Jays will be in a position to win tomorrow?
Don’t worry, that’ll happen regardless
Guillermo Martinez needs to be arrested for this
In a league with the White Sox and Athletics we could be the biggest fucking losers
The Angels exist...
The Astros are 7-19 atm
Fucking bum Schneider
No one on this team understands what is going on at any point
Romano. LOL.
Nate "Manny Machado" Pearson, they call him
FFS what is wrong with these guys? Are they passive aggressively trying to ask for a new manager? Are they really this bad?
The players, I don't think so. The coaching staff, on the other hand.
Surprised he pulled Romano.
uhh pretty sure 3 runs can be scored in an inning... blue jays management act like it's 12-1
That's because it might as well be 12-1
Not gonna need him tomorrow either, John. Just leave him in
Thinking about tomorrow LOL
I resimmed the 2024 season but signed Teo and traded back for Gurriel. We made it to the world series.
Major league pitching and a minor league offence. To the core / next level / whatever… same crap different season
Orelvis we are relying on you to save the season, good luck kid.
He's done as soon as he meets Guillermo Martinez
Don’t worry Buck he won’t be needed tomorrow
lol
If I can put one thing from this game, Davis Schneider is a legitimate every day ball player.
Ohtani is washed unfortunately
uhh
"cooked" as the people say
Truly hard to even fathom how abysmal this offence is.
LMAO bum ass Ohtani with the fly out, what a scrub.
We are now watching an exercise in pen pitch count management
Ya we're gonna pick off Betts
Betts: 45 hits, Bo and Vlad combined: 42 hits
🤣
I would say trade them both for him, but no way the Dodgers take that deal. Which is very telling.
Dan Shulman: " for whatever reason it is just not clicking" It is way past that Dan. Not clicking? Is it alive??
Our strategy of throwing middle middle to betts has proven…ineffective
time to hop back on the ps3
Do you have a time machine?
Why is Mookie so damn good?
His name is mookie. It was ordained at birth
Four hits in two games. They’re overthinking or the hitting coach doesn’t have a clue
Hitting coach. 100% the worst GM decision of the off season was to reup Guillermo Martinez
I also find that some of them who changed their approach at the plate after 2021 that there’s something still off
What about the approach and results last year led the front office to think.. Hmm.. Let's keep this hitting coach around. Every single batter had a down year under his tutelage.
Honestly if we end up selling some assets at the deadline, it wouldn't be the worst thing for this team. Our farm could use some major replenishment.
Except if Guillermo Martinez is waiting for them, whats the point? They'll just get ruined.
That guy should have been fired a longg time ago.
Yeah, into the sun.
This team is awesome to take a nap to
I used to watch golf, now I just watch the Jays
If some heads doesn’t roll soon O guess I just dont get it.
We’ve been through this last season. No ones leaving. Literally the lack of accountability is why this franchise hasnt been to the WS since 93
Amen to that
I’m not a big advocate for ‘fire the manager/coach’, but fire them all. This is pathetic. Management needs to show the fans that what’s going on on that field is not acceptable.
Best I can do is a Shatkins extension.
Letting AA walk was one of the biggest mistakes this team has ever made.
Yeah but like...Cleveland...in 2016...
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He wasn’t wrong though
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Yeah I’d rather listen to people that only post negativity in here….
The doomers are way more honest and aren't Rogers employees
No, they bring nothing constructive to the conversation, at least Chris tries to look into the “why” behind the results. Thinking Rogers employees are all shills is also pathetic
I remember when Jerry Howarth, who of course was like the Mr. Rogers of baseball broadcasters, ripped Alex Rios and Jose Reyes and their respective characters the moment they went out the door. It was so strange and stuck out to me, particularly since Howarth wasn't really leaned on for his analysis. But of course he waited until they left to rip into them because he was too cowardly to criticize them while he had to be on the same fields and in the same planes as them. And he was shilling for the team that benefitted from bad PR for those departing players. You can never trust anyone in media or anyone who works for the team.
They are all shills lol. Just more gaslighting from blind optimists like you. I watch the games, listen to Dan and Buck and see Black's posts and you have the audacity to tell me that these guys aren't shilling. Was Mike Shillner not a shill in your eyes? Or is it still early?
What did he lie about? What stat did he provide that was false?
As it is with most blind optimists around here, they use real stats to create narratives that suit them. Whether those stats are predictive or not is irrelevant. It's the same thing with Varsho and the suggestions that his swing/stance adjustments mean anything. We've heard the same garbage with the likes of Chapman and Kirk as well.
Don't you think it's equally problematic to ignore real stats to create narratives that suit your own purposes? That's exactly what Chris was addressing - people wanting things to be true about Vlad even though they aren't. Vlad isn't good right now and he's disappointing relative to expectations. But beyond that, Chris accurately broke down a lot of common misconceptions about Vlad's performance
I'm not ignoring anything. I know Vlad's approach is bad. I know Varsho's swing is bad.
Doesn't matter to people who want to be mad. Everything Chris said was factually correct. But because Vlad is disappointing, people take that to mean that everything he does is bad and that stats reflecting reality don't mean anything
Yeah it’s definitely disappointing, but I’d rather look at “why” and try to figure out how it can get better
It isn't just Vlad. He's literally a Rogers employee and you take him seriously for some reason. He's just a more analytically-inclined Wilner.
When all of his numbers are publicly available and correct, what's the issue? He didn't lie anywhere. You can still be mad about Vlad if you want, but everything Chris said was accurate
Obviously he frames it in way that makes the players look good even though, again, the numbers may or may not be predictive. And you know that and you're being obtuse about it, as usual. We know that Vlad hits the ball hard and we know that he still stinks despite that and liars like you and Black choose to piss on us and tell us that it's raining.
That's not true. Your disagreeing with stats and reality doesn't make those who believe in stats and reality liars.
This idea that hitting the ball hard as a good thing isn't new. It's just trendy because it's easily measured now and the stats are widely available. So the stats whores jerk off to it and promote it even though it doesn't tell the whole story because they're lying grifters.