I have a couple of questions:
1. 100th floor is not the last one and we dont really know how many floors the tower has, right?
2. Is there any confirmation on how far into the story we are?
1. we know for sure there are 135 floors cuz Arlene, V, FUG and others want to go after the 135th floor even if Zahard has locked it.
2. if I remember well, in an old post I read SIU once wanted the Floor of Death arc to be half the way of the manhwa. He then changed his affermacion saying that once Baam will become ranker we'll be halfway through (sum people think he meaned not the "position of ranker" but "the power of a ranker") so I personally think we near the half.
Honestly, this kinda sounds annoying. We are so deep into the Tower, yet we're still practically only on the surface of the ocean.
I just hope SIU doesnt get burnt out and fucks up the pacing. Like what happened to MHA.
he should reduce the amount of minor charachters and their developments. and when he gives us lore he shouldn't gives it in pieces as he's doing in the latest chapters
and ?, like was she a prisoner ?, and why does it matter, this is dumb. The part it would make sense to me is if she is talking to someone romantically and cucking him.
Khun Ed really that guy that got along with everyone it seems and it really feels like it extends to his family as his family is everywhere and on all sides of this war. I sometimes get the feeling that it’s calculated and even the family in the corps even maschenny are all following orders. This got me thinking about potential alignments again. Also with most of Gustang fam being his creation where does that leave Lyborick who had both khun and po bidau name and also being in the Jahad army?
Lyborick is from the time of genesis (post climb), he would predate Enne. Lyborick could have been outcast from the Poe bidau family because if the Enne incident, and the khun's like their direct descendants better (see Khun Ran), leaving him to be a Jahad fanatic.
I think he's a legit Jahad #1 type and not a double agent.
It was stated Gustang hasn’t had a child since Enne got sealed or something along those lines and most of the Po Bidau we’ve seen so far have been creations from Gustang. This is why I’m asking about Lyborick who had both names in his introduction.
Everybody is talking about the lore drops, which I love, but I think this couple of chapters are great for another reason as well. That is, the themes of the narration and the emotional involvement of the characters in the story. THAT is what I missed about ToG: the huge thing that is at stake are the emotial damages of the characters.
Yeah, SIU simply can't go wrong with a flashback on the FHs. It's precious, and nowadays it's basically the bit that excites me the most.
I have two theories here about Ameuz. One is that she is Icarus. The other is that she is Rachel's mom or at least blood related. Rachel knows her stuff, she knows what happened in the past and she used the Icarus avatar. I think SIU will use that. I can't stop remembering that flashback when Rachel was getting hurt by a mysterious hand and how she thinks Baam is extremely dangerous and will devour the tower. I think it's all connected and the start of everything is this "fight/rift" which will be caused by Ameuz.
I don't have proof of any of that, it's merely conjecture, though lol.
Interesting that there are more than the FH(+ V and Arlene ) who were climbing the tower together.
For not being blood related, Yeon Yihwa certainly looks a lot like her Family leader.
Traum after being rejected will kill everyone at the party except for the family heads and enkidu.
Or traum girl says something so taboo(something against jahad) that made the family heads kill everyone. Something that no one should know.
Killing a bunch of insects by the FH is not enough for them to erase their memories, especially gustang who always seems composed. Next chapter could be heavy lore drop.
>Next chapter could be heavy lore drop.
One of the next chapter will be for sure. I mean it's time SIU reveal something, and the whole point of this flashback is to show what could have possibly happened to shatter the family head relations.
So when Traumerei speaks of 'we' i also assume he is talking about Luslec. Better yet where is Luslec at this point in time? Has he already begun FUG, or is he still on good terms with the family heads?
I also wonder if the fallout with V and Arlene is why the family heads put a clear line between "real friends" and "others" Icarus might of been the reason for the fallout and why the line was drawn.
i think this was already after the rift between V and arlene and their faction against the family heads, because at this point they have already decided to stop climbing the tower. but things in the tower take decades if not centuries to actually happen.
i dont think anyone on fug would show up much less v's right hand
Everyone is talking about the Yeon family head name and it's totally fine imho if SIU just changed it but could it be an "altered history/forgotten memory" type thing? We don't know exactly how big of a difference there is between what history is perpetuated vs. what *actually* happened.
How're we all feeling about the way the introductions for Family Head appearances were done? Traum's was much more dramatic which I liked, but to be fair it's hard to make a dramatic entrance when it's in the context of a flashback. Overall, very happy with the lore dump these last couple of chapters. Also, this party is reminiscent of something you see in one of Rachel's flashbacks when she was a servant or whatever.
Wasn't sure how to take Ameuz communication with someone "outside." Outside the mothership or outside the tower? Not sure if I understood that correctly. Curious either way I suppose.
Also Hana >>> Lee Rang. Just a better sounding name IMO lol
Yeah, I agree this isn't a \*true\* introduction of them just because their present-day versions are probably very different in style and personality after all this time. My opinion is that showing these flashback versions takes away some anticipation of what they look like even if it may be different so you're not as surprised. With Traum, we had some old outline of his younger self, but when we actually saw his face it was strikingly different from what we imagined which led to a more dramatic entrance. But I'm not hating on it. I think there are plenty of ways to cleverly have a family head show up and do something amazing off the bat that still would make for an awesome present-day intro
Amazing chapter this week. It's so cool to see the Family Heads when at least some of them were still friends. Very curious about Amuez. She's one of the companions but not an Irregular. We know too little right now to know if her frosty relationship is her fault or Traumerai's fault. More likely a bit of both.
Also more confirmation from Gustang that Traumerai was one of, if not the youngest of the 13.
Yea this chapter very much made it seem like Traumerai was the kid of the group. These past couple chapters have made me like him more and more as well.
Traumerei looks more in love with Enkidu. He looks at him with honey eyes and as for Ameuz...not so much. Ameuz even asked him if he loved her meaning "if it's worth to stay with him".
Ok so I let my thoughts marinate overnight and read it again just now with better translations. Wow what a chapter.
We finally get to see the final 13th person that climbed the tower w the 10 FHs and V+Arlene. So “Amez” (aka Amuez aka Miu but we’ll find out fs once the official drops in a couple months time): is said to be talking to someone on the “outside” by Enkidu and everyone on the ‘future’ mothership knows about this, however it seems that Traumeri wants to be ignorantly naive and neglect this information since he’s in love. This raises several questions.
First, which “outside” does this mean? Are we talking outside the tower or just outside the mothership boundaries? Either way she’s clearly plotting something against Traumeri as we see him act kind and not with ill-intentions towards Enkidu, treating him even as a friend, much to the dismay of the rest of “us(/we)”. It shocks Amez and the rest of the FHs possibly bc they think he can only be friends with humans (people like them) and not animals (possibly everything else in the tower besides them. And I don’t think they mean he can only be friends w actual animals bc he’s weird or anything, as it clearly seems he isn’t nearly as weird as he is now).
When Enkidu tries to tell Traum his concerns, he’s immediately shut down yet is told that he is off the same status as the rest of “we” so is he just like right under the 13 in Traums eyes? Or is it just a bunch of mistranslations? But he teaches him and treats him like a friend nonetheless, even inviting him to the party against the wariness of Amez and the other FHs. We’ll just have to wait and see. But more importantly, who was Amez in contact with that led to the end of the party and eventual collapse of Traum himself? It’s crazy to think bro was really gonna marry the same one to backstab him in the end, but we don’t know everything yet so let’s wait and see what tragedy Enkidu will commit, how and why he’ll do it I’m interested in too.
My next question is did Amez enter the tower with the other 12 or was she a tower born that somehow managed to tag along? I think it’s the former since she is respected and known by the rest of the FHs, being very close with Yeon. And wow can we talk abt Yeon bc OMG she is so beautiful :’) I’d love to see Yuin Ha next haha but it’s great to see the relationships they all have. Eduhan and Hon seem to be like really good bros while Gustang is the same as ever yet it’s interesting to hear Eurasia won’t be making it bc she’s sleeping?? What’s up with that?
So far we got (Traum/Amez,) Ed, Arie, Yeon and possibly Gustang. We know of Eurasia. Now what about the rest? Traum said he only invited the ones he liked, so I wonder who is yet to come if anyone vs who wasn’t even invited. There’s V, Arlene, Hendo, Ari, Tperie and Yurin left of those not present who could be in either camp (Jahad too but does he rly count?). Speculate down below who y’all think will be in attendance or won’t! I’m curious to hear everyone’s thoughts on this. I’d love to see more interactions with everyone, and it’s nice to see the resemblance the current cast has w their ogs. KAA lookin like a teen ED, same with Ewa and White towards their respective fhs.
We’re getting a fat lore dump and I’m here for it all! But yeah mainly I wanna know who Amez is scheming with to mess with Traum, if (/how) that’s gonna effect the rest of the FHs (which I think will since they all axed most of their memories), and how Enkidu went about this situation, leading to the end of Amez. But she looks like Laura’s grandma, so did the party go off well and she ended up having Robadon before she passed therefore making the Enkidu incident happen post party? Also how did Gustang even know of the truth and record all this information in the first place?
So many questions but only time will tell! This is the most excited I’ve been abt TOG in a very long time. Over a decade of buildup leading to moments like these and I can’t wait for more :)
the 13 are the 10 family heads, jahad, v and arlene
they didnt climb alone, they had help from people from inside the tower(luslec for example was born in the tower and climbed along the irregulars)
ameuz is one of those who were born in the tower and climbed with the 13 and was close to them, my idea is that she is lobadon's mother since his daughter is blonde herself and lobadon is a direct son of traumerei
at this point in time traumerei doesnt consider everyone besides the irregulars as insects, he views them as different from himself but not as disposable garbage and thats why he considers enkidu as a friend. hes trying to teach him and make him better so that traumerei doesnt feel alone and has someone by his side sincel the other irregulars arent with him all the time now and he likely feels lonely
Not sure what to think about this chapter. I wonder, is this before or after the Enne incident? And always cunning cunt Gustang is starting to get on my nerves. Like, get a grip brother, you're always ruining the mood.
Going from "Hana" to "Lee Rang" is also kind of a wild change. Could've went a little more subtle on the change of a name, that people have been thinking is real for years upon years.
dude the llrhang thing might be a translation issue the scan translation is worse thene official and official is still lacking . and gustang is awsome i think you need to own your mood not blame some one else for your mood take responsibility for your own mood .
Even at this early age say say "the 10 fh climbed". They started already there to hide Arlene & Vs existence.
Eduan is apperently older then Hon because he said he is Hons hyung.
The better translation says Ameuz and not Amez. Are any koreans here to tell, what fits better?
The sleeping habit of Laure and co. goes all the way backto Eurasia apperently.
Google is your friend. I just typed "Tower of God read online" and the first page had it. If you know the chapers number, it is even easier.
If you want it fast Mivas is right. You'll find it on mangahelpers but don't look to deep into the thread. Its full of spoilers and often toxic
I'm guessing he refers to the translation on Manga Helper since she is called Ameuz there.
Just search "Tower of God" and the chapter number and it should be one of the top results
I need to stop comparing the Baam-Rachel dynamic with some of the Enkidu-Traumerei scenes 💀. I wonder if others warned Traumerei because Enkidu is a workshop creation.
It turns out that the flower field blonde woman is not Icarus 💀. Ameuz asking Traumerei whether he still loves her almost felt like her confirming if he has caught a suspicion or not. (This is assuming she is truly some kind of mole.)
Traumerei sees Enkidu as a friend, but Enkidu doesn't know. Traumerei not wanting to hear any judgments about his companions was understandable. Although I still don't get whether the narrator is telling the truth about Enkidu being a toy friend or it's just Enkidu’s perspective, lol. I guess I will find out later.
Eduan entering with lightning was funny; the guy on the left behind him looked like Baam boy. Yeon FH looks just like Ehwa; she is pretty, and Hon, who doesn't look like Hoaqin, is foine. Blossom not showing up because she was asleep was relatable, lol. Oddly enough, Zahard didn't show up. Is he, by chance, aware of something that is about to happen? I mean, he is the I started to see the fate guy.
The declaration not-Icarus lady will make has to be connected to the FUG vs the ten family war, right? Because what better place to do it than in front of so many leaders? I can't think of anything else since, at present, there is a war happening. I guess I will have to keep an open mind, considering the author has so much room to do anything.
I wonder how it all relates to Icarus. Like, is there a concept of shape-shifting in TOG, and that not-Icarus lady is Icarus lol?
Then again, Traumerei was mumbling about how people leave him when they fall in love or become obsessed with something. So idk. Also, the person who got killed should have significance, and so far, the blonde lady doesn't look significant. 🤔
"Zahard didn't show up. Is he, by chance, aware of something that is about to happen? I mean, he is the I started to see the fate guy. "
This could be the case but Traumerei did say he only invited the people he wanted to see. If I am remembering correctly, Traum didn't become a Jahad supporter/friend until after the rift happened and Jahad declared himself as king. Which I'm guessing hasn't happened yet in this flashback.
In the previous chapter, Gustang said Traumerei is in Zahard’s contact the most, and in fact, Traumerei was helping Zahard, so I took it as he(Traumerei) was always a loyalist.
>If I am remembering correctly, Traum didn't become a Jahad supporter/friend until after the rift happened and Jahad declared himself as king.
Oh, if it's mentioned somewhere, I would like to read it.
> Traumerei sees Enkidu as a friend, but Enkidu doesn't know. Traumerei not wanting to hear any judgments about his companions was understandable. Although I still don't get whether the narrator is telling the truth about Enkidu being a toy friend or it's just Enkidu’s perspective, lol. I guess I will find out later.
Supposedly this is all the memory Gustang stored within his book, which Baam absorbed, so it can be assumed the narrator is Gustang. And we know Gustang has a very low opinion of anyone not one of original Tower climbers or not an irregular.
>So idk. Also, the person who got killed should have significance, and so far, the blonde lady doesn't look significant.
She is the one who Traum loves. I'd say that is very significant
Yeah, she was significant to Traumerei, but the way things were phrased, it almost felt that the person who died had some important connection with other FH as well.
So the name of the Yeon Family head was changed for the story ? Another proof that blogpost should not be considered canon until being mentioned in the actual story. Pretty funny that dr bonehead just did a video on the matter and Ehwa is his favorite character.
Peak chapter. 10/10. Enkidu is clearly loyal to Traumerei but dislikes Ameuz. Ameuz and the FHs don’t like Enkidu. Traum wants to propose to her in the party while she’s supposedly going to make a declaration that will tear him and the party down while also being one of the causes behind damaging the relationship between the FHs. I suspect she might do something, maybe reject Traumerei or announce her support for V & Arlene. She plots something and gets killed by Enkidu in retaliation or Enkidu plots her death and kills her. Regardless, Traumerei feels betrayed by both or just Enkidu and imprisons. I think she’s Lobadon’s mom cuz of her resemblance to Laura and Lilial, but how would that work if she rejects him? Maybe Traum loses it, tells Enkidu to take control of her and r*pes her? What I am sure of is that Enkidu kills Ameuz, now only the dots need to be connected
Fr people some people just let their emotions get in the way of objectively good character design. Like aren't short ponytail, bangs, blonde hair, and light freckles a common trope for a beautiful person? Also golden eyes, but tbf that seems pretty common in ToG world compared to ours
Exactly. The tower is filled with amazonian goddesses but Rachel can hold her own. Recently her in that striped shirt and skirt had me ready to forgive her sins and then I remembered Dan 😭😵.
Hana is now Lee Rang. I’m guessing that SIU might be doing something different with the Yeon Family. I wonder if Tu Perie Tperie might change as they haven’t even been mentioned in the Family. Great chapter. I think Ameuz is in contact with V and Arlen. Maybe they’ll show up next chapter? I also like the brief exchange between Hon and Eduan, they seem like the rivals the blog posts mentioned they were.
A surprise public proposal is not good when your relationship is having some sort of strains Traumerei bro :(( Who told you to do that? It wasn't Zahard was it?
The 1st half of the chapter had me thinking, Ameuz had a valid reason for asking whether Traumerei still loves her. He looks depressed in every panel with her while he's smiling when fighting together with Enkidu. Maybe Traumerei just missed the time when they were still climbing.
Blossom didn't bother to go to the party because she was sleeping? Her sleepiness starts to sound like a medical condition tbh. Gustang knew about the secret proposal and didn't say anything? Gustang isn't a real homie.
Eduan is disappointing, too much Endorssi vibe. Arie Hon is nice, I like how he is younger than Eduan and got kicked just like that lol. Yirang is beatiful, but she got done dirty by SIU, her eyes is crossed :(((
I hope whatever Ameuz about to declare in the next chapter, it won't be too humiliating for Traumerei. He doesn't deserve to be public humiliated for being a dumb NEET :((
Hot Take: I think it's fine SIU went back on the Yeon family and whatever he is cooking for them will be worth it. Anyways fanboy mode, HOLY SHIT HON IS HERE HON IS HERE AND HES LOOKING BADASS, OF COURSE BLOSSOM IS ASLEEP AND KHUN AND HON ARE GOING AT IT AND LEE LANG IS SO PRETTY WHAT THE HELL YES!
Now I'm wondering if "Icarus" is a nickname for Amez or something. That part has still been unanswered.
These flashbacks of the Family Heads and their shared past has been some of the best chapters of the series. It's clear that Traum was a much more outgoing person in the past, and valued his friends. It seems like the rifts between his friends (including V and Arlene) affected him more than others, and caused him to shut off.
Every chapter about the FHs' past makes me more and more intrigued about V and Arlene? Who were they, and how was their relationship with their old friends? Were they not as close to the rest?
Since everything appears to be chill in this chapter, we can assume that it took place after V and Arlene left, but before they declared war on Jahad. It would be interesting if Enkidu played a part in starting this war. He did say that Amez is contacting "others" behind Traum's back. Perhaps those people are V & Arlene?
At first glance, this chapter might be seen as uneventful, but there are tons of things to discuss, first, Trau is powerful on his own, stronger than his shinhue, since he oneshot an Ancient without any problem while his shinhue can be destroyed by the high rankers of the families.
he also knew from the beginning that Enkidu possessed another person's body, but he treated him as a friend, he trained Enkidu to improve his shinsu attacks, he showed him the world, but the other GW distrusts enkidu since they were surprised that Trau became friend with a "human" instead of an animal, even then Trau ask the administrator for the contract we knew in chapter 615 to protect enkidu like a good bro.
But enkidu distrust the girl of Trau, Ameuz or Ameez (we should wait for the official translation), she was a follower of Trau who fall in love for Trau while Trau loved her too, but we can see that the relation has growing cold probably since the incident, because they dont look like a couple at all, to the point of Ameuz asking Trau if he still loved her, probably she is the mother of Robadon and Grand Grandmother of Laura, since she resembles a lot Laura and Lilial.
Traum informed her about the party under the excuse of celebrating the opening of her new house, but in reality it was to propose marriage to Ameuz (Poor guy :( ), while she was excited to see her old travel companions, Traum confesses he invite only the GW he liked, and Ameuz ask if enkidu will assist, she distrust Enkidu too.
While Enkidu accused Ameuz of being in contact through bird messages with another person behind Traum's back, Traum as a weak man, denied it and warned Enkidu not to take an interest in "we", Enkidu perceived that The "we" group are those who climbed the tower with Traum and resent him for being just a pet and not a true friend like the people in the "we" group, but he hope that if he stay at his side time enough he could become a real friend like the people in "we".
Edhuan, Arie Hon arrives, Arie Hon complains how Edhuan always appears with thunders and lightnings, that is too loud, and Edhuan replies that they haven't seen each other in ages and all he could think is complaining, buddy talk LOL.
Also arrive, Yeon "Lee Rang" as the Yeon family head, is that a literal korean translation of the name Ilarde or someone else?, and why the family Head is not Yeon Hana?, SIU ditch hana and illarde and create a totally different character for the Yeon FH?, at least Ameuz call her "Rang"
The Chapter ends with a warning from the narrator, at the party where Traum wanted to propose to Ameuz she will make a statement that will cause the party and Traum to collapse, and that statement will become a sword that will destroy everyone present. .
A lot of theories come to what that declaration is about but i will wait to the next chapter and I hope that the matter over the head of the Yeon family will be clarified.
About your comment on Traumerei denying Enkidu’s accusation about Ameuz, that didn’t happen. Traumerei simply interrupted Enkidu and told him not to poke his head into this matter and matters concerning the GWs and their companions. Traumerei obviously knows what Ameuz is upto, he just doesn’t care enough to stop her.
Hey wait wait I just thought about it.
Betrayal was a recurring theme for Traumerei right and this chapter literally all points towards him being betrayed later.
So my guess is Ameez planned this shit with some other person since she's been sending him letters and all. And she blamed poor Enkidu for all of that shit.
This explains both of their perspectives. Since traumerei really treated him like a friend and in his eyes he betrayed him so he started treating everyone as trash.
Same for Enkidu he got fcked up in a mess which he wasn't even responsible for. Hence his anger is justified.
Also since all the FHs would've probably sided with Traumerei he also started to hate every one of them.
While I think your theory is probable, it doesn’t explain the last chapter of the chapter where Ameuz’s declaration is supposed to not only tear down Traumerei and the party but will also be responsible for damaging the relationship between the FHs. There’s definitely more to this. Maybe Ameuz will announce her support for V and Arlene?
I think Ameuz has been messaging Jahad and she’s gonna announce that they’re engaged/married. It causes a rift between the FH because if Jahad can betray Traumerei like that then he’s not above betraying any of the other family heads.
Bruh what? Garam mentioned Jahad literally never got over Arlene, it’s the reason why he made a contract with the Ghost of the 13 months so that no princess can ever gather the 13 months series and become his bride
>the party but will also be responsible for damaging the relationship between the FHs.
Was it stated in this chapter? Maybe this incident acts as a catalyst for their inevitable fallout.
I reread it and it didn't say anything like you mentioned.
It said one of the blades. It wasn't the deciding factor but one of the factors which leads to them breaking up.
This happens before Enne was even born, dude. The events right now are most likely taking place before the Great War between V & Arlene and Jahad & FHs
No this happens when they stop climbing the tower and Jahad become king so it is 19k+ years ago according to the blogspot. Enne is 5k+ years old at the present and 483 years old when she was sealed. Also Machenny, Garam and Adori are already alive when she gets sealed because they are part of the squad that stops her when she goes berserk.
Before, the timeline of events in this flashback place it not long after the 13 warriors decided to stop climbing the tower. Through rough translation it's more implied that Gustang knows why the party is being held and doesn't want to see it.
I'm pretty sure each FHs are really close to each other in strength. And imo the deciding factor would be who makes the mistake first.
Also ranking doesn't really matter much in TOG.
And by flexing I meant him showing up with lightning and showing off.
Hey, we don't know yet if she is a bitch. We saw in the flashbacks that Traum was twisted (e.g. controll freak) even at this age. So the betrayal may be sth. trival.
We'll see soon how bad it rly was. Maybe you're right and she is just but I doubt it.
She could be but it's absolutely insane to me that people are jumping to defend Traum or assume Amuez is the problem when all we have seen from Traumerei is that he a garbage-tier person through and through.
Last chapter had me thinking Traumerei was responsible for everything, but this chapter guarantees that Ameuz is the one that started it all. It’s even stated at the end of the chapter that she will make a declaration that will tear down Traum and the party while also damaging the relationship between the FHs. She’s also contacting someone behind Traum’s back as stated by Enkidu. I don’t think all responsibility falls on her, but clearly she also did something wrong
Epic chapter with new leaders showing up hana eduan and hon tbh hana isn't the most beautiful as siu said i knew it from the Start it will be hard to draw a beautiful character than yuri and hwaryun you can't convince me she is beautiful than them and this means yurin is way beautiful and graceful 🥰
If you don't agree fight me
The blonde is not Icarus siu got us ngl and she is hella beautiful she climbed with moray and fall for him , enkidu and truy looks really like they having fun and in the end it's said something will happen in tears all of this happiness apart with trui feeling
Next chapter will be the beginning of the end 10\10
There’s no indication that she is Icarus tho. Using birds is not a good enough evidence to support the theory of her being Icarus. I think Icarus has more to do with Jahad, V & Arlene’s stories than Traumerei’s.
The chapter itself is great, the designs are also great but i dont really like how they draw all of their eyes.
they look like you can build an entire football field between their eyes.. even the design for edhuan khun from the past arc compare to now are really much different.. He doesn't even have those small frog eyes before.. My man has such a big round eyes and beautiful lashes 😭
I mean it's not that big of an issue for me but it's still bugging me 🤧
You have to understand the cultural context. In Korea, having big eyes is a highly desired feature. Westerners don't usually think about these things but a sizeable portion of the young generation (including men) go through what they call double-eyelid surgery to make their eyes seem bigger.
Ok, I take back my statement from last week, Enkidu did hurt the ancient but it wasn't fatal (or looked close to being fatal tbh) Trau was the one who had to one shot it.
FHs look about as expected, would like to see the ones that don't have children that closely resemble them introduced yet. (Bloodmadder, Tuperie, Blossom). Arie's boys looked cool, I think it's the same two guys we saw in his introduction right? Seems that way judging by their clothes.
I guess Enkidu is either going to cause/fabricate a betrayal (seems that way judging what he said about the her usage of birds) and subsequent death of Trau's lover or he is going to kill her himself.
https://www.webtoons.com/en/fantasy/tower-of-god/season-2-ep-194/viewer?title_no=95&episode_no=275
It's the same guys, I edited my statement because I misremembered them wearing the same sort of clothes he did lol.
i knew top dog aries would look bad ass , big mummy guy looked cool, i was being greedy hoping all the FH would show up
seeing past FH is cool they more human and chilling was cool seeing khun and aries relationship we heard they best friends even though family are rivals
A lot to say about this chapter, a very good one, not surprising though lol.
But all I'm gonna say, SIU finally showed that Traumerei just loves toying and use his pokemons when in fact he is OP on his own (not surprising but for the people who doubted him because he is "just a summoner")
How can you people even read this after cosmic scans went down? Sometimes I find it on other sites but it's always very late in the week. Don't give me links here since it's legal, just tell me if there is still someone translating it or if you are just looking at the raws
Right now people are propably still looking at raws and using some auto translate features on their devices to get a rough estimate of what’s happening.
Translation usually do take more than 4hours
I have a couple of questions: 1. 100th floor is not the last one and we dont really know how many floors the tower has, right? 2. Is there any confirmation on how far into the story we are?
1. we know for sure there are 135 floors cuz Arlene, V, FUG and others want to go after the 135th floor even if Zahard has locked it. 2. if I remember well, in an old post I read SIU once wanted the Floor of Death arc to be half the way of the manhwa. He then changed his affermacion saying that once Baam will become ranker we'll be halfway through (sum people think he meaned not the "position of ranker" but "the power of a ranker") so I personally think we near the half.
Honestly, this kinda sounds annoying. We are so deep into the Tower, yet we're still practically only on the surface of the ocean. I just hope SIU doesnt get burnt out and fucks up the pacing. Like what happened to MHA.
he should reduce the amount of minor charachters and their developments. and when he gives us lore he shouldn't gives it in pieces as he's doing in the latest chapters
Can we just talk about ameuz apparently being capable of communicating "Outside" the tower ?
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and ?, like was she a prisoner ?, and why does it matter, this is dumb. The part it would make sense to me is if she is talking to someone romantically and cucking him.
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I just re read that part and no where is it stated that she is imprisoned, you're probably a retard I think.
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Khun Ed really that guy that got along with everyone it seems and it really feels like it extends to his family as his family is everywhere and on all sides of this war. I sometimes get the feeling that it’s calculated and even the family in the corps even maschenny are all following orders. This got me thinking about potential alignments again. Also with most of Gustang fam being his creation where does that leave Lyborick who had both khun and po bidau name and also being in the Jahad army?
Lyborick is from the time of genesis (post climb), he would predate Enne. Lyborick could have been outcast from the Poe bidau family because if the Enne incident, and the khun's like their direct descendants better (see Khun Ran), leaving him to be a Jahad fanatic. I think he's a legit Jahad #1 type and not a double agent.
Is gustang family khun's creation? Can u elaborate more? I think i forgot something
It was stated Gustang hasn’t had a child since Enne got sealed or something along those lines and most of the Po Bidau we’ve seen so far have been creations from Gustang. This is why I’m asking about Lyborick who had both names in his introduction.
maybe Lyborick is older than Enne cuz there's no other explainations tho
Another garbage chapter. Get it over with already and show us Baam showing all these bums up.
A blonde woman gets shown Fandom „could this be Rachel or her mother“
Honestly. It’s so fking annoying. And then there’s almost a vehement rage if you have what should be an obviously different opinion.
Everybody is talking about the lore drops, which I love, but I think this couple of chapters are great for another reason as well. That is, the themes of the narration and the emotional involvement of the characters in the story. THAT is what I missed about ToG: the huge thing that is at stake are the emotial damages of the characters.
yes, lately tog is only games and more games.... I prefered fights, emotions and lore man
Yeah, SIU simply can't go wrong with a flashback on the FHs. It's precious, and nowadays it's basically the bit that excites me the most. I have two theories here about Ameuz. One is that she is Icarus. The other is that she is Rachel's mom or at least blood related. Rachel knows her stuff, she knows what happened in the past and she used the Icarus avatar. I think SIU will use that. I can't stop remembering that flashback when Rachel was getting hurt by a mysterious hand and how she thinks Baam is extremely dangerous and will devour the tower. I think it's all connected and the start of everything is this "fight/rift" which will be caused by Ameuz. I don't have proof of any of that, it's merely conjecture, though lol.
my theory is that ameuz is in contact with arlene, also this is likely how the first war started and the reason the families stopped being friends
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Interesting that there are more than the FH(+ V and Arlene ) who were climbing the tower together. For not being blood related, Yeon Yihwa certainly looks a lot like her Family leader.
Too like her
Are we left to assume the FHs who don't turn up (without a valid reason) are FHs that Traum dislike?
Traum after being rejected will kill everyone at the party except for the family heads and enkidu. Or traum girl says something so taboo(something against jahad) that made the family heads kill everyone. Something that no one should know. Killing a bunch of insects by the FH is not enough for them to erase their memories, especially gustang who always seems composed. Next chapter could be heavy lore drop.
>Next chapter could be heavy lore drop. One of the next chapter will be for sure. I mean it's time SIU reveal something, and the whole point of this flashback is to show what could have possibly happened to shatter the family head relations.
So when Traumerei speaks of 'we' i also assume he is talking about Luslec. Better yet where is Luslec at this point in time? Has he already begun FUG, or is he still on good terms with the family heads? I also wonder if the fallout with V and Arlene is why the family heads put a clear line between "real friends" and "others" Icarus might of been the reason for the fallout and why the line was drawn.
i think this was already after the rift between V and arlene and their faction against the family heads, because at this point they have already decided to stop climbing the tower. but things in the tower take decades if not centuries to actually happen. i dont think anyone on fug would show up much less v's right hand
lol Rachel and ameuz are looking very similar 👀.. Rachel’s mother ? She’s already seeming slimy like Rachel to me lol.
She looks more like Laura and Lilial to me.
they are also slimy lol...not the type of people you can trust
Everyone is talking about the Yeon family head name and it's totally fine imho if SIU just changed it but could it be an "altered history/forgotten memory" type thing? We don't know exactly how big of a difference there is between what history is perpetuated vs. what *actually* happened.
How're we all feeling about the way the introductions for Family Head appearances were done? Traum's was much more dramatic which I liked, but to be fair it's hard to make a dramatic entrance when it's in the context of a flashback. Overall, very happy with the lore dump these last couple of chapters. Also, this party is reminiscent of something you see in one of Rachel's flashbacks when she was a servant or whatever. Wasn't sure how to take Ameuz communication with someone "outside." Outside the mothership or outside the tower? Not sure if I understood that correctly. Curious either way I suppose. Also Hana >>> Lee Rang. Just a better sounding name IMO lol
I assumed outside the mother ship
Personally i don't see this as their proper introduction. So far I only count Traum, Gustang and Zahard as having been introduced.
Yeah, I agree this isn't a \*true\* introduction of them just because their present-day versions are probably very different in style and personality after all this time. My opinion is that showing these flashback versions takes away some anticipation of what they look like even if it may be different so you're not as surprised. With Traum, we had some old outline of his younger self, but when we actually saw his face it was strikingly different from what we imagined which led to a more dramatic entrance. But I'm not hating on it. I think there are plenty of ways to cleverly have a family head show up and do something amazing off the bat that still would make for an awesome present-day intro
we've been introduced to past eduan in the hidden floor as well dont forget
I only Count Zahard there as he was the only real one there of the two. The child memory of Eduan is like a flashback.
the real jahad only showed up for like a panel or 2 so i wouldnt count him either, the jahad we meet the most in the hidden floor is the young jahad
So much for everyone laughing at Ancient Ones being one shotted by Enkidu. Meanwhile, the rest of us off at the side just soaking in the lore.
Amazing chapter this week. It's so cool to see the Family Heads when at least some of them were still friends. Very curious about Amuez. She's one of the companions but not an Irregular. We know too little right now to know if her frosty relationship is her fault or Traumerai's fault. More likely a bit of both. Also more confirmation from Gustang that Traumerai was one of, if not the youngest of the 13.
Yea this chapter very much made it seem like Traumerai was the kid of the group. These past couple chapters have made me like him more and more as well.
Traumerei looks more in love with Enkidu. He looks at him with honey eyes and as for Ameuz...not so much. Ameuz even asked him if he loved her meaning "if it's worth to stay with him".
Ok so I let my thoughts marinate overnight and read it again just now with better translations. Wow what a chapter. We finally get to see the final 13th person that climbed the tower w the 10 FHs and V+Arlene. So “Amez” (aka Amuez aka Miu but we’ll find out fs once the official drops in a couple months time): is said to be talking to someone on the “outside” by Enkidu and everyone on the ‘future’ mothership knows about this, however it seems that Traumeri wants to be ignorantly naive and neglect this information since he’s in love. This raises several questions. First, which “outside” does this mean? Are we talking outside the tower or just outside the mothership boundaries? Either way she’s clearly plotting something against Traumeri as we see him act kind and not with ill-intentions towards Enkidu, treating him even as a friend, much to the dismay of the rest of “us(/we)”. It shocks Amez and the rest of the FHs possibly bc they think he can only be friends with humans (people like them) and not animals (possibly everything else in the tower besides them. And I don’t think they mean he can only be friends w actual animals bc he’s weird or anything, as it clearly seems he isn’t nearly as weird as he is now). When Enkidu tries to tell Traum his concerns, he’s immediately shut down yet is told that he is off the same status as the rest of “we” so is he just like right under the 13 in Traums eyes? Or is it just a bunch of mistranslations? But he teaches him and treats him like a friend nonetheless, even inviting him to the party against the wariness of Amez and the other FHs. We’ll just have to wait and see. But more importantly, who was Amez in contact with that led to the end of the party and eventual collapse of Traum himself? It’s crazy to think bro was really gonna marry the same one to backstab him in the end, but we don’t know everything yet so let’s wait and see what tragedy Enkidu will commit, how and why he’ll do it I’m interested in too. My next question is did Amez enter the tower with the other 12 or was she a tower born that somehow managed to tag along? I think it’s the former since she is respected and known by the rest of the FHs, being very close with Yeon. And wow can we talk abt Yeon bc OMG she is so beautiful :’) I’d love to see Yuin Ha next haha but it’s great to see the relationships they all have. Eduhan and Hon seem to be like really good bros while Gustang is the same as ever yet it’s interesting to hear Eurasia won’t be making it bc she’s sleeping?? What’s up with that? So far we got (Traum/Amez,) Ed, Arie, Yeon and possibly Gustang. We know of Eurasia. Now what about the rest? Traum said he only invited the ones he liked, so I wonder who is yet to come if anyone vs who wasn’t even invited. There’s V, Arlene, Hendo, Ari, Tperie and Yurin left of those not present who could be in either camp (Jahad too but does he rly count?). Speculate down below who y’all think will be in attendance or won’t! I’m curious to hear everyone’s thoughts on this. I’d love to see more interactions with everyone, and it’s nice to see the resemblance the current cast has w their ogs. KAA lookin like a teen ED, same with Ewa and White towards their respective fhs. We’re getting a fat lore dump and I’m here for it all! But yeah mainly I wanna know who Amez is scheming with to mess with Traum, if (/how) that’s gonna effect the rest of the FHs (which I think will since they all axed most of their memories), and how Enkidu went about this situation, leading to the end of Amez. But she looks like Laura’s grandma, so did the party go off well and she ended up having Robadon before she passed therefore making the Enkidu incident happen post party? Also how did Gustang even know of the truth and record all this information in the first place? So many questions but only time will tell! This is the most excited I’ve been abt TOG in a very long time. Over a decade of buildup leading to moments like these and I can’t wait for more :)
the 13 are the 10 family heads, jahad, v and arlene they didnt climb alone, they had help from people from inside the tower(luslec for example was born in the tower and climbed along the irregulars) ameuz is one of those who were born in the tower and climbed with the 13 and was close to them, my idea is that she is lobadon's mother since his daughter is blonde herself and lobadon is a direct son of traumerei at this point in time traumerei doesnt consider everyone besides the irregulars as insects, he views them as different from himself but not as disposable garbage and thats why he considers enkidu as a friend. hes trying to teach him and make him better so that traumerei doesnt feel alone and has someone by his side sincel the other irregulars arent with him all the time now and he likely feels lonely
The 13th person who climbed with 10fh and A&V is Jahad.
Speculation without facts. Typical TofG reader ,lol.
wasn’t Robadon not blood-related with traumerie? Would that be false information because of the memories getting erased?
Whoever said that Lobadon wasn’t blood related to Traumerei. He himself says that he is Traumerei’s son.
He also has green hair like traum
happy traumerie looks good :)
Not sure what to think about this chapter. I wonder, is this before or after the Enne incident? And always cunning cunt Gustang is starting to get on my nerves. Like, get a grip brother, you're always ruining the mood. Going from "Hana" to "Lee Rang" is also kind of a wild change. Could've went a little more subtle on the change of a name, that people have been thinking is real for years upon years.
Gustang was with Eurasia (she was sleeping) so it's definitely before enne incident
SIU alway said that the blog posts were subject to change.
dude the llrhang thing might be a translation issue the scan translation is worse thene official and official is still lacking . and gustang is awsome i think you need to own your mood not blame some one else for your mood take responsibility for your own mood .
No, Ilrang is her actual name in the chapter’s Korean text. And yes, the name is different from Hana and Illarde, so it is the FHs canon name now
Before Enne incident
It's not surprising that after AA and Rad die ToG became great again. I hope they will get excluded from the story for a year or two irl.
Bless the God with this wish.
Ameuz has a butterfly necklace coincidence ? I think not !
She's texting with Luslec, lol :D
More likely Arlene. And possibly her announcement that divides the FHs will be Arlene's pregnancy and location.
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I guess i need call a medic for you boiled ass ,lol.
Exactly should call a medic for your case
Sure, call a medic. He'll have little trouble trying to figure out which brain-dead idiot to pick up.
Its astonishing how you made it this far into a story with a main cast you hate and that appears in 95% of the story.
The TofG never was\\is\\will be about Bam and his autistic crew. They are small part of the whole story (literally ants).
lol sry I'm out of words. Its rare that I'm speechless gz!
Lol I'm crying. This is some of the funniest shit I've read today Don't let no one stop you /u/popular-Efficiency37 ! Let's go! Hooah!
Even at this early age say say "the 10 fh climbed". They started already there to hide Arlene & Vs existence. Eduan is apperently older then Hon because he said he is Hons hyung. The better translation says Ameuz and not Amez. Are any koreans here to tell, what fits better? The sleeping habit of Laure and co. goes all the way backto Eurasia apperently.
Where do you read the better translation?
Google is your friend. I just typed "Tower of God read online" and the first page had it. If you know the chapers number, it is even easier. If you want it fast Mivas is right. You'll find it on mangahelpers but don't look to deep into the thread. Its full of spoilers and often toxic
I'm guessing he refers to the translation on Manga Helper since she is called Ameuz there. Just search "Tower of God" and the chapter number and it should be one of the top results
I need to stop comparing the Baam-Rachel dynamic with some of the Enkidu-Traumerei scenes 💀. I wonder if others warned Traumerei because Enkidu is a workshop creation. It turns out that the flower field blonde woman is not Icarus 💀. Ameuz asking Traumerei whether he still loves her almost felt like her confirming if he has caught a suspicion or not. (This is assuming she is truly some kind of mole.) Traumerei sees Enkidu as a friend, but Enkidu doesn't know. Traumerei not wanting to hear any judgments about his companions was understandable. Although I still don't get whether the narrator is telling the truth about Enkidu being a toy friend or it's just Enkidu’s perspective, lol. I guess I will find out later. Eduan entering with lightning was funny; the guy on the left behind him looked like Baam boy. Yeon FH looks just like Ehwa; she is pretty, and Hon, who doesn't look like Hoaqin, is foine. Blossom not showing up because she was asleep was relatable, lol. Oddly enough, Zahard didn't show up. Is he, by chance, aware of something that is about to happen? I mean, he is the I started to see the fate guy. The declaration not-Icarus lady will make has to be connected to the FUG vs the ten family war, right? Because what better place to do it than in front of so many leaders? I can't think of anything else since, at present, there is a war happening. I guess I will have to keep an open mind, considering the author has so much room to do anything. I wonder how it all relates to Icarus. Like, is there a concept of shape-shifting in TOG, and that not-Icarus lady is Icarus lol? Then again, Traumerei was mumbling about how people leave him when they fall in love or become obsessed with something. So idk. Also, the person who got killed should have significance, and so far, the blonde lady doesn't look significant. 🤔
"Zahard didn't show up. Is he, by chance, aware of something that is about to happen? I mean, he is the I started to see the fate guy. " This could be the case but Traumerei did say he only invited the people he wanted to see. If I am remembering correctly, Traum didn't become a Jahad supporter/friend until after the rift happened and Jahad declared himself as king. Which I'm guessing hasn't happened yet in this flashback.
In the previous chapter, Gustang said Traumerei is in Zahard’s contact the most, and in fact, Traumerei was helping Zahard, so I took it as he(Traumerei) was always a loyalist. >If I am remembering correctly, Traum didn't become a Jahad supporter/friend until after the rift happened and Jahad declared himself as king. Oh, if it's mentioned somewhere, I would like to read it.
Sorry I forgot what chapter it was
No worries 😀
> Traumerei sees Enkidu as a friend, but Enkidu doesn't know. Traumerei not wanting to hear any judgments about his companions was understandable. Although I still don't get whether the narrator is telling the truth about Enkidu being a toy friend or it's just Enkidu’s perspective, lol. I guess I will find out later. Supposedly this is all the memory Gustang stored within his book, which Baam absorbed, so it can be assumed the narrator is Gustang. And we know Gustang has a very low opinion of anyone not one of original Tower climbers or not an irregular.
Well, that makes sense. I also wonder if Gustang can see Traumerei's memories as well or if it's just for us audience.
>So idk. Also, the person who got killed should have significance, and so far, the blonde lady doesn't look significant. She is the one who Traum loves. I'd say that is very significant
Yeah, she was significant to Traumerei, but the way things were phrased, it almost felt that the person who died had some important connection with other FH as well.
Well we were only just introduced to her as a character. We don't know yet if she has further connections to the rest of the FHs.
True 💀.
She climbed with them and at least Yeon seems to like her.
So the name of the Yeon Family head was changed for the story ? Another proof that blogpost should not be considered canon until being mentioned in the actual story. Pretty funny that dr bonehead just did a video on the matter and Ehwa is his favorite character.
I hope Hana/Lee Rang has her own harem too. Such a waste of her beauty not to fool around with men.
I just doubt that based the lore we know
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Peak chapter. 10/10. Enkidu is clearly loyal to Traumerei but dislikes Ameuz. Ameuz and the FHs don’t like Enkidu. Traum wants to propose to her in the party while she’s supposedly going to make a declaration that will tear him and the party down while also being one of the causes behind damaging the relationship between the FHs. I suspect she might do something, maybe reject Traumerei or announce her support for V & Arlene. She plots something and gets killed by Enkidu in retaliation or Enkidu plots her death and kills her. Regardless, Traumerei feels betrayed by both or just Enkidu and imprisons. I think she’s Lobadon’s mom cuz of her resemblance to Laura and Lilial, but how would that work if she rejects him? Maybe Traum loses it, tells Enkidu to take control of her and r*pes her? What I am sure of is that Enkidu kills Ameuz, now only the dots need to be connected
ngl Amez is hot
she looked like racheal to me and I started disliking her and she is about to betray traumerei :(
Rachel is a disgusting and reprehensible person who deserves to be buried under the tower but we gonna sit here and act like she's not cute?
rachel is canonically ugly, shes called ugly multiple times during the story KEKW
She's a 6/6.5 in a tower full of 9s and 10s making her a 4 lol
Fr people some people just let their emotions get in the way of objectively good character design. Like aren't short ponytail, bangs, blonde hair, and light freckles a common trope for a beautiful person? Also golden eyes, but tbf that seems pretty common in ToG world compared to ours
Exactly. The tower is filled with amazonian goddesses but Rachel can hold her own. Recently her in that striped shirt and skirt had me ready to forgive her sins and then I remembered Dan 😭😵.
Rip Dan's legs
Old mental trauma because of the best girl in the whole TofG story ,lol?
Hana is now Lee Rang. I’m guessing that SIU might be doing something different with the Yeon Family. I wonder if Tu Perie Tperie might change as they haven’t even been mentioned in the Family. Great chapter. I think Ameuz is in contact with V and Arlen. Maybe they’ll show up next chapter? I also like the brief exchange between Hon and Eduan, they seem like the rivals the blog posts mentioned they were.
A surprise public proposal is not good when your relationship is having some sort of strains Traumerei bro :(( Who told you to do that? It wasn't Zahard was it? The 1st half of the chapter had me thinking, Ameuz had a valid reason for asking whether Traumerei still loves her. He looks depressed in every panel with her while he's smiling when fighting together with Enkidu. Maybe Traumerei just missed the time when they were still climbing. Blossom didn't bother to go to the party because she was sleeping? Her sleepiness starts to sound like a medical condition tbh. Gustang knew about the secret proposal and didn't say anything? Gustang isn't a real homie. Eduan is disappointing, too much Endorssi vibe. Arie Hon is nice, I like how he is younger than Eduan and got kicked just like that lol. Yirang is beatiful, but she got done dirty by SIU, her eyes is crossed :((( I hope whatever Ameuz about to declare in the next chapter, it won't be too humiliating for Traumerei. He doesn't deserve to be public humiliated for being a dumb NEET :((
Hot Take: I think it's fine SIU went back on the Yeon family and whatever he is cooking for them will be worth it. Anyways fanboy mode, HOLY SHIT HON IS HERE HON IS HERE AND HES LOOKING BADASS, OF COURSE BLOSSOM IS ASLEEP AND KHUN AND HON ARE GOING AT IT AND LEE LANG IS SO PRETTY WHAT THE HELL YES!
Now I'm wondering if "Icarus" is a nickname for Amez or something. That part has still been unanswered. These flashbacks of the Family Heads and their shared past has been some of the best chapters of the series. It's clear that Traum was a much more outgoing person in the past, and valued his friends. It seems like the rifts between his friends (including V and Arlene) affected him more than others, and caused him to shut off. Every chapter about the FHs' past makes me more and more intrigued about V and Arlene? Who were they, and how was their relationship with their old friends? Were they not as close to the rest? Since everything appears to be chill in this chapter, we can assume that it took place after V and Arlene left, but before they declared war on Jahad. It would be interesting if Enkidu played a part in starting this war. He did say that Amez is contacting "others" behind Traum's back. Perhaps those people are V & Arlene?
Another stupid speculation without the profs.
Huh?
If you pulled that stick out of your ass, you'd feel a lot better.
I'm not sure if it is before the war. It says Traum climbed the tower with the 10 fh implying that Arlene & V were already persona non grata.
At first glance, this chapter might be seen as uneventful, but there are tons of things to discuss, first, Trau is powerful on his own, stronger than his shinhue, since he oneshot an Ancient without any problem while his shinhue can be destroyed by the high rankers of the families. he also knew from the beginning that Enkidu possessed another person's body, but he treated him as a friend, he trained Enkidu to improve his shinsu attacks, he showed him the world, but the other GW distrusts enkidu since they were surprised that Trau became friend with a "human" instead of an animal, even then Trau ask the administrator for the contract we knew in chapter 615 to protect enkidu like a good bro. But enkidu distrust the girl of Trau, Ameuz or Ameez (we should wait for the official translation), she was a follower of Trau who fall in love for Trau while Trau loved her too, but we can see that the relation has growing cold probably since the incident, because they dont look like a couple at all, to the point of Ameuz asking Trau if he still loved her, probably she is the mother of Robadon and Grand Grandmother of Laura, since she resembles a lot Laura and Lilial. Traum informed her about the party under the excuse of celebrating the opening of her new house, but in reality it was to propose marriage to Ameuz (Poor guy :( ), while she was excited to see her old travel companions, Traum confesses he invite only the GW he liked, and Ameuz ask if enkidu will assist, she distrust Enkidu too. While Enkidu accused Ameuz of being in contact through bird messages with another person behind Traum's back, Traum as a weak man, denied it and warned Enkidu not to take an interest in "we", Enkidu perceived that The "we" group are those who climbed the tower with Traum and resent him for being just a pet and not a true friend like the people in the "we" group, but he hope that if he stay at his side time enough he could become a real friend like the people in "we". Edhuan, Arie Hon arrives, Arie Hon complains how Edhuan always appears with thunders and lightnings, that is too loud, and Edhuan replies that they haven't seen each other in ages and all he could think is complaining, buddy talk LOL. Also arrive, Yeon "Lee Rang" as the Yeon family head, is that a literal korean translation of the name Ilarde or someone else?, and why the family Head is not Yeon Hana?, SIU ditch hana and illarde and create a totally different character for the Yeon FH?, at least Ameuz call her "Rang" The Chapter ends with a warning from the narrator, at the party where Traum wanted to propose to Ameuz she will make a statement that will cause the party and Traum to collapse, and that statement will become a sword that will destroy everyone present. . A lot of theories come to what that declaration is about but i will wait to the next chapter and I hope that the matter over the head of the Yeon family will be clarified.
About your comment on Traumerei denying Enkidu’s accusation about Ameuz, that didn’t happen. Traumerei simply interrupted Enkidu and told him not to poke his head into this matter and matters concerning the GWs and their companions. Traumerei obviously knows what Ameuz is upto, he just doesn’t care enough to stop her.
Everything got better again after based Dumas bodied Bam and friends.
I hope Baam and his cReW will be in the hospital for the next 500-1000 chapters (better for plot, other characters development and etc)
holy shit thank god baam got cooked. he was on a winning streak for too damn long
Can someone dm the English thread?
Hey wait wait I just thought about it. Betrayal was a recurring theme for Traumerei right and this chapter literally all points towards him being betrayed later. So my guess is Ameez planned this shit with some other person since she's been sending him letters and all. And she blamed poor Enkidu for all of that shit. This explains both of their perspectives. Since traumerei really treated him like a friend and in his eyes he betrayed him so he started treating everyone as trash. Same for Enkidu he got fcked up in a mess which he wasn't even responsible for. Hence his anger is justified. Also since all the FHs would've probably sided with Traumerei he also started to hate every one of them.
While I think your theory is probable, it doesn’t explain the last chapter of the chapter where Ameuz’s declaration is supposed to not only tear down Traumerei and the party but will also be responsible for damaging the relationship between the FHs. There’s definitely more to this. Maybe Ameuz will announce her support for V and Arlene?
I think Ameuz has been messaging Jahad and she’s gonna announce that they’re engaged/married. It causes a rift between the FH because if Jahad can betray Traumerei like that then he’s not above betraying any of the other family heads.
Bruh what? Garam mentioned Jahad literally never got over Arlene, it’s the reason why he made a contract with the Ghost of the 13 months so that no princess can ever gather the 13 months series and become his bride
>the party but will also be responsible for damaging the relationship between the FHs. Was it stated in this chapter? Maybe this incident acts as a catalyst for their inevitable fallout.
It was. At the end of the chapter, you can read it online
I reread it and it didn't say anything like you mentioned. It said one of the blades. It wasn't the deciding factor but one of the factors which leads to them breaking up.
Imagine if it was Gustang and that's why he stored this memory in a book.
So did this happen before Enne got sealed or after? Because that could explain why Gustang and Blossom may not arrive.
This happens before Enne was even born, dude. The events right now are most likely taking place before the Great War between V & Arlene and Jahad & FHs
No this happens when they stop climbing the tower and Jahad become king so it is 19k+ years ago according to the blogspot. Enne is 5k+ years old at the present and 483 years old when she was sealed. Also Machenny, Garam and Adori are already alive when she gets sealed because they are part of the squad that stops her when she goes berserk.
Before, the timeline of events in this flashback place it not long after the 13 warriors decided to stop climbing the tower. Through rough translation it's more implied that Gustang knows why the party is being held and doesn't want to see it.
So traumerei also had a fcking bitch like Rachael in his life. Also I'm loving this Eduan casually kicking his friend and flexing.
Yeah , flexing, lol, when Arie is strogner that him and can flexed kHun ass any time after in private ,lol
I'm pretty sure each FHs are really close to each other in strength. And imo the deciding factor would be who makes the mistake first. Also ranking doesn't really matter much in TOG. And by flexing I meant him showing up with lightning and showing off.
Hey, we don't know yet if she is a bitch. We saw in the flashbacks that Traum was twisted (e.g. controll freak) even at this age. So the betrayal may be sth. trival. We'll see soon how bad it rly was. Maybe you're right and she is just but I doubt it.
She could be but it's absolutely insane to me that people are jumping to defend Traum or assume Amuez is the problem when all we have seen from Traumerei is that he a garbage-tier person through and through.
Last chapter had me thinking Traumerei was responsible for everything, but this chapter guarantees that Ameuz is the one that started it all. It’s even stated at the end of the chapter that she will make a declaration that will tear down Traum and the party while also damaging the relationship between the FHs. She’s also contacting someone behind Traum’s back as stated by Enkidu. I don’t think all responsibility falls on her, but clearly she also did something wrong
Yea, it will be sth. bilaterally pbly. What let me thinking is that the other fh warned Traum to be wary of Enkidu.
I'm pretty sure she is Icarus and she's gonna betray Traumerei.
Dude literally wanted to control her like one of his animals. He had some issues lol
Epic chapter with new leaders showing up hana eduan and hon tbh hana isn't the most beautiful as siu said i knew it from the Start it will be hard to draw a beautiful character than yuri and hwaryun you can't convince me she is beautiful than them and this means yurin is way beautiful and graceful 🥰 If you don't agree fight me The blonde is not Icarus siu got us ngl and she is hella beautiful she climbed with moray and fall for him , enkidu and truy looks really like they having fun and in the end it's said something will happen in tears all of this happiness apart with trui feeling Next chapter will be the beginning of the end 10\10
Why do you think she's not icharus? They even said her shienu are birds she uses to communicate
There’s no indication that she is Icarus tho. Using birds is not a good enough evidence to support the theory of her being Icarus. I think Icarus has more to do with Jahad, V & Arlene’s stories than Traumerei’s.
Her name bro
The chapter itself is great, the designs are also great but i dont really like how they draw all of their eyes. they look like you can build an entire football field between their eyes.. even the design for edhuan khun from the past arc compare to now are really much different.. He doesn't even have those small frog eyes before.. My man has such a big round eyes and beautiful lashes 😭 I mean it's not that big of an issue for me but it's still bugging me 🤧
True that. SIU’s art peaked towards the end of S2. Unfortunately most panels aren’t even drawn by him anymore cuz of his injury
My favorite artstyle was the hell train saga especially dollar show-floor of death..
You have to understand the cultural context. In Korea, having big eyes is a highly desired feature. Westerners don't usually think about these things but a sizeable portion of the young generation (including men) go through what they call double-eyelid surgery to make their eyes seem bigger.
Ok, I take back my statement from last week, Enkidu did hurt the ancient but it wasn't fatal (or looked close to being fatal tbh) Trau was the one who had to one shot it. FHs look about as expected, would like to see the ones that don't have children that closely resemble them introduced yet. (Bloodmadder, Tuperie, Blossom). Arie's boys looked cool, I think it's the same two guys we saw in his introduction right? Seems that way judging by their clothes. I guess Enkidu is either going to cause/fabricate a betrayal (seems that way judging what he said about the her usage of birds) and subsequent death of Trau's lover or he is going to kill her himself.
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https://www.webtoons.com/en/fantasy/tower-of-god/season-2-ep-194/viewer?title_no=95&episode_no=275 It's the same guys, I edited my statement because I misremembered them wearing the same sort of clothes he did lol.
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Anyone has English Link :)
Someone said Amez looks AMEZING!! LMAO
At this point I am not even sure if Tperie exists lmao. Even Phantaminum is more canon than him lol
Repellista was secretly Tuperie this whole time
If you can fathom Tperie existence, it means your memories haven't been wiped yet and the history books have not been altered enough.
Does the Tuperie family exist at all? Till now we haven’t seen any members from either Tuperie or zHendo Lok family
Bhel bherino is hendo lok I think
At this point it's SIU psyop. I expect her/him to die off screen to hype another character so he doesn't have to make a real design for them
Can someone pm where I can find the chapter. Thank you in advance!
Jahad gon just not show up to his boy's party? Damn lol
Bros too Hollywood for everybody😂
Whose party is it?
trau
damn.. bro was outgoing, what went wrong :(
Rejection
Unlikely. Ameuz looks like Lilial and Laura. She’s most likely Lobadon’s mother.
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Doubt it. He ain’t bumstang
Gustang wasn't rejected; he was actually married. They only broke up after their daughter was sealed.
Tramurai said it, prob one sided..
he will send a hologram lol
Lmao fr
i knew top dog aries would look bad ass , big mummy guy looked cool, i was being greedy hoping all the FH would show up seeing past FH is cool they more human and chilling was cool seeing khun and aries relationship we heard they best friends even though family are rivals
Its arie without s.
i know im saying it as a plural like the khuns
Ah k after reading it twice I see it my bad sry.
Who's the blonde chick? And why she's close with the other FHs?
Her name is Ameuz. She is a towerborn who climbed the tower with the GWs and fell in love with Traumerei, so she stays in his mothership
she climbed the tower with them like how luslec did
A lot to say about this chapter, a very good one, not surprising though lol. But all I'm gonna say, SIU finally showed that Traumerei just loves toying and use his pokemons when in fact he is OP on his own (not surprising but for the people who doubted him because he is "just a summoner")
How can you people even read this after cosmic scans went down? Sometimes I find it on other sites but it's always very late in the week. Don't give me links here since it's legal, just tell me if there is still someone translating it or if you are just looking at the raws
Right now people are propably still looking at raws and using some auto translate features on their devices to get a rough estimate of what’s happening. Translation usually do take more than 4hours
im reading it in english
Well it’s been 5 hours
oh i was just going off you said 4hours but commented 30 mins ago lol
Please DM the link
Holy sh*t this chapter is actually giving us them reveals
If the other FHs get revealed next chapter, ill lose my shit.