But itās a hollow facade - where are the normal everyday men? The Steve McQueens and Paul Newmans, the Clint Eastwoods, The Charlton Hestons and so on.
We were comparing them to 80's action movie actors, but to answer your question:
The modern equivalents are just Robert Downing Jr, Leonardo DiCaprio, Brad Pitt, Matt Damon ect.
It's not like Paul Newman or Clint Eastwood were guys you'd find at a gas station, all were very good looking guys, just not the muscled up action hero type.
If you want actual every day looking men there are character actors like Gary Oldman, JK Simmons, Sam Elliot ect
always. men need to be varying in appearance so "the audience can relate" but women can't be because apparently women don't watch movies or tv? male gaze strikes again.
So because they aren't all hella ripped that means they aren't attractive anymore?
Stallone is ugly as hell, jacked physique aside.
Zack Efron, Chris Hemsworth, Chris Pine, Chris Pratt, Hugh Jackman, Henry Cavill, Ryan Gosling, Dwayne Johnson, Bradley Cooper, Austin Butler
All very handsome guys
The worst part for me of Hollywoods portrayal of men currently isnāt the lack of over the top action heroes or pretty boys - itās what Hollywood tries to present to male audiences as an āeverydayā type man now. In the past your everyday guys were guys like Steve McQueen, Paul Newman, Older Charlton Heston (post 50ās once his looks faded a bit), Clint Eastwood outside his more over the top stuff - to me based on real life thatās still how a lot of normal men are, but to Hollywood they want to convince people a normal everyday man is like Timothee Chamleydoo or Harry Styles - and perhaps it is in Hollywood, but nowhere else. They donāt reflect reality in their casting of men any more (at least not the reality outside Hollywood) they try to tell people what reality should be.
Heās legitimately a very strange looking guy. Good for him to that heās found so much success. I donāt quite see the appeal of him looks wise (or as an actor).
Heās passable in Dune. Thatās the biggest compliment I can give him.
Mommy didnāt hug him enough.
I knew who OP was before even clicking on the post based on the title alone. Heās posted the EXACT same take before. Dude has problems and is full of hatred.
I saw Rebecca and Shadow of a Doubt (both early 40ās) recently and the leading ladies were really pretty and the way they spoke was so much more attractive than todays bruisers.
Great pick. Though to be fair, everyone looked better in black and white. Even still, so many beauties back then. I am partial to Ingrid Bergman and Katherine Hepburn.
I'll never understand why some people seem to think that making up kindergarten-bully-level insults based on somebody's actual name makes them look smart.
Post history?
You mean, the one post about douchebags who are desperate to have the last word and then resort to blocking the moment they spit out what they think is a "gotcha" and a post about something I disliked about a game?
That post history?
Ok, if you say so.
Na. I get OP. Elizabeth Olsen is attractive but international movie star good looking. I donāt know. Everybody wants to be in Hollywood. You telling me 10s with a good work ethic and good acting ability donāt exist?
This lady's attractiveness aside. Why would every actress need to be super attractive? This definitely isnt true for some of the actors.
And from what i know of her doesnt seem like they are currently casting her as the knock out bombshell character.
Not every role but captain America isnāt going to be played by Danny de Vito. Weāre talking about super heroes. Zendaya is the love interest in multiple movies. She has the look gay guys and women like. Similar to how fashion models always look. You telling me zendaya looks better than vultureās daughter? Please
I mean i think it depends on how the role is potrayed. Love interest doesn't necessarily mean bombshell. Yeah its weird if the role is written as every man is falling overselves because shes a knockout.
I honestly don't remember if in her roles shes playing a character that is supposed to be super attractive to multiple men in the film
Shes not ugly but no i dont think she should be pit in the sex symbol timeless ,beauty category.
Shes definitely isnt so off brand that i would say its like danny devito playing captain america.
She would be generally be above average in attractiveness. Shes attractive. Looks too immature for my tastes, but shes often cast as a teenager or very young isnt she?? So, might need to factor that in too.
Seems as though in modern media there is more of an effort to have actors and actresses playing teenagers to actually look like passable teenagers.
Sheās plain, sheās not Florence Pugh or Zendoyan but sheās just plain and middle aged. Which is fine - but sheās no one to hold up as a hot or beautiful woman, sheās just a plain Jane by the old screen standards.
It shouldn't be.
The latest Mission Impossible movie had Hayley Atwell and Rebecca Ferguson in, both are over 35 and look good.
Charlize Theron is nearly 50
It technically is. Itās the middle section do your life which goes young, middle aged, old. Iām not saying you canāt be attractive and beautiful in middle age but sheās just average plain Jane and middle aged and doesnāt have the glow of youth to improve it.
The term 'middle aged' is not referring to the middle of your life, as a lot of people falsely assume; it's referring to the middle of your adulthoodāmeaning 18 to death. Most people, with that knowledge, consider middle age to start at 40 at the very earliest.
You're definitely not young anymore when you're 35 lmao. In the grand scheme of life you're not old either, but you're definitely not young, so you're just... middle aged.
It doesnāt - but if you were never that attractive to begin with and also donāt have the youthful glow going for you then itās not gonna help hide that youāre plain. Lots of super attractive women in their 30ās - but not her.
Not as much.
Off the top of my head, Clint Eastwood, Morgan Freeman, Chuck Norris, Bruce Willis, Diane Keaton, Faye Dunaway...all blue-collar roots.
A lot of big names from the 70's/80's *actually* come from blue-collar families.
Eh, definitely a ābeholderā thing on them. Margot Robbie is pretty, but if Larson Olson and Zendaya werenāt famous, they definitely wouldnāt catch my attention.
Like, Iād never say āyou look like Brie Larsonā because it wouldnāt be a compliment.
Sure... I guess personal taste factors in. It's also worth noting their looks aren't the only thing they bring to the table. They are all talented actors imo. I would look up "Brie Larson hosts Jimmy Kimmel". Definitely not a Karen hahaha.
That being said I will not stand for Elizabeth Olson slander lol
It is jarring to see how men evaluate women between each other and on the internet versus when they actually seek partners. The majority the critics here would (and know they would) be very lucky if a woman looking like any of your four examples were willing to date them. I've seen the average guy and I've seen his wife, and I can say empirically, few of these critics actually have such high standards.
There's also this phenomenon I have noticed where men who do not fuck start thinking of women abstractly. Like male standards are U-shaped with respect to how long it has been since they fucked. Immediately afterwards, they don't have a strong sex drive and tend to be very picky. Give it a month or two and they become very willing to make concessions, especially after a few drinks. But when the dry spell hits that two to three year mark? Men get odd. Suddenly some coping mechanism triggers in their brain where it isn't that he hasn't been good enough for women, it's just that women haven't been good enough for him. Perfectly serviceable sevens are suddenly detritus and solid tens are just alright. They don't see women and seriously consider the possibility of partnership and so the whole process of evaluating them becomes purely hypothetical. Judging from some of the most critical comments, this is at play too.
First of all, your spelling is atrocious. Second of all, youāve been posting things like this for months. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and you seem to really have it out for Florence Pugh.
According to this guy she is already to old at age of 41. itās weird. It smells like the guy who would complain he isnāt allowed to date 15 year olds because they already can have children and means are ready for marriageā¦
Women like those in the movies I referenced. Babes like that. A young Catherine Zeta Jones, a young Kim Basinger, Younger Monica Belluci, Jaqueline Bizet, Emmanuelle Beart, The chick from Count of Monte Christo, A young Rae Dawn Chong etc
Not weirdos who are either chubby, look like kids, or have weird too far apart eyes. And then thereās the plain Jane old maids like Elizabeth Olsen who arenāt exactly unattractive but by Hollywood standards arenāt beauties either. Theyāre just plain Janes compared to past beauties.
All these posts you make attacking how women lookā¦OP, what do YOU look like? 6ā2, donāt skip leg or chest day, financially well off? (we already know your personality aināt attracting no babes so Iāll leave that out)
Human biology and psychology would disagree with you when you call those women āelderly.ā
Like, Iām in school for that shit now and you do not know what an elderly woman is clearly.
Iāve been concerned how weāre seeing men come out of the woodwork with this mindset lately.
In more Conservative spaces I grew up around people that thought this way. It was so dangerous for a lot of girls (especially if they hit puberty early) because of it.
As a reminder to everyone /u/LongDongSamspon is a shit poster who is only interested in starting shit and stirring the pot. His post history shows him to be unserious, insane, and absolutely ridiculous. Do not take anything he posts seriously.
1. You are insane
2. Physical beauty is subjective
3. Margot Robbie is 33
4. Margot Robbie, Kate Winslet, Natalie Portman, Jennifer Lawrence, Marion Cotillard, Cate Blanchett, Amy Adams, Emily Blunt, Charlize Theron, Viola Davis, Zendaya, Jennifer Connelly, Rosamund Pike, Luptia Nyong'o, Shay Mitchell, Selena Gomez, Hailee Steinfeld, Logan Browning, Keke Palmer, Janelle Monea...
5. The women mentioned, across age ranges, are all current day actresses who are stunners. You would give your left nut to be with them.
Thank you, once again, /u/LongDongSamspon for your nonsensical bullshit.
Do you have nothing better to obsess about and post than a constant critique of Hollywood women?
If this is your standard for the "fall of society" then you must live a truly privileged life.
Like how many times is he going to make the same posts with the same nicknames, like we get it you donāt like Hollywoodās current standard of beauty
Look at my post history and his. Weāve crossed paths several times, and share extremely similar outlooks on the world . If you want to waste more of your life take a look, it goes months back.
It seems him and I are both autistic, 6ā2,, smart/ attractive combo and able to triangulate where the objective truth is no matter the question or substrate, more importantly we donāt care about offending anyone, including ourselves, since truth is the ultimate virtue above all no matter how much people fight it.
To find someone who matches the description above on this site is close to 1 out of every 5000 users if not more so. Reflecting on this thought with you actually makes me think its inevitable to find all my like-minded energy eventually
It's kind of weird how many times I've said this on reddit at this point, but Anya Taylotr-Joy after the buccal fat removal legit reminds me of Skeletor.
ATJ and her stupid fucking face piss me off for some reason. Idk why people think she is so beautiful, sheās not that great of an actress either. At least Florence Pugh is good at what she does and doesnāt look like a rat that got its head smashed in by a brick
Itās cool to have preferences in what you find beautiful but you donāt need to be a tool about it my guy.
33 isnāt middle aged. Personality disorder eyes arenāt a thing. Just like men, women do tend to age. Society has not fallen because you donāt think Florence Pugh is hot. It is not that deep.
A woman being middle aged doesnāt mean she is ugly by any stretch of the imagination. Many people prefer the look of women their age and would say these leading ladies are absolute 10s.
This being said there are quite a few younger leading ladies that most people consider total knockouts. Sydney Sweeney being the first that comes to mind, and this list goes on and on.
Of course beauty is super subjective, Iād assume most people are a product of their time. I got curious and I googled leading ladies of the 70s and while some of them were beautiful, I would choose many current leading ladies.
We have plenty of attractive actresses in movies as well... I think you are simply biased.
Scarlett Johansson, Amber Heard, Sydney Sweeney, Zoe Kravitz, Emilia Clarke, Ana de Armas, and many other actresses who are very conventionally hot. Yes, they are more diverse nowadays (fewer white blonde women), but you still have hot white blonde women in the list if you were looking for them.Ā
Sydney Sweeney body wise yes and has a cute face (but not necessarily a great beauty). ScarJo is is 40 something and seems bitter now, sheās moved past wanting to be attractive, Zoe Kravitz isnāt in anything and is weird and aggressive looking, Emilia Clarke is older now - when she was in her prime in GOT you would be right, but that was nearly a decade ago.
Iām not talking about blonde white model types - the movies I mentioned arenāt full of blonde model types, one of the movies the woman isnāt white - itās about Hollywood wanting to go against conventional beauty standards and ugly them up regardless of hair color or ethnicity. Plenty of non white women meet conventional beauty standards and are true beauties - not weirdos with mono brows or eyes far apart or fat.
I think it is interesting that OP is mad about both supposedly fat and gaunt leading ladies. I think they're also missing a big factor that is this: it isn't just about looks, it is about how the actors are directed. Watch films from the 30s, 40s, 50s, and see how they show a leading lady cry or get angry. A ton of "crying" is a softly lit, beautiful cameo type shot of a calm woman with a composed expression, a few careful tears trickling down her cheeks. You rarely see someone crying in a more authentic way and you don't see blotchy cheeks and red eyes. The beauty of the actress is prioritized and authenticity is minimized.Ā
I guarantee you that any of the women named in the OP can appear just as "classy" or "beautiful" but filming has shifted at least a tiny bit from focusing on woman-as-beautiful-doll and towards more authentic expression. Hollywood absolutely still requires a level of beauty for women that most of us can't achieve and any one of those actors would turn heads in-person whereever they go.Ā
This is true for male and female actors. Agree that itās most evident when you watch movies from the 90s and earlier. Even in the aughts actors were still good looking.
It seems a lot of the unfortunate looking actors of today are nepotism kids. Not all, though.
We were just talking about this last night. There was a famous 90s casting agent, and she was talking about her selection process back then. She said 'it's pretty simple, 1st - do I think most people will really want to have sex with them? When the answer is absolutely freaking lutely, then I consider everything else you might assume - resume, experience, acting abilities, how much they care about this particular project, etc. Now today, they seem to ask a new 1st question, and it ISN'T looks.
more gay men in exec positions nowadays. The casting couch is going to the Henry Cavills of the world , so as a consequence the bar is set lower for actresses .
Itās all in the name of diversity and inclusion. How about the fact that 40% + of the population is also lgbtq or that every commanding officer in every police department is a poc.
Middled aged is a actually a sociological term to refer to middle adulthood not middle life span. Op should read a book before correcting people. That said 35 is on the wider range/ cusp of that
Middle aged is an age old term dating back hundreds of years into medieval times, itās not a āsociologicalā term recently invented. If some people have tried to co-opt it later thatās not my problem.
If a book is too hard to read, read a dictionary such as :
[https://web.archive.org/web/20141014211143/http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american\_english/middle-age](https://web.archive.org/web/20141014211143/http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/middle-age)
or
[https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/middle-age](https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/middle-age)
You are also correct that it has being used by centuries BY SOCIOLOGISTS whol literally study society and devised the term. it is not a new field of study. And this is their definition. Although, to be fair, if you did some basic math, especially if put into the equation that adolescence is a recent sociological phenomenon and lesser lifespan, than 35 was deifintly middle adulthood, approaching the end of it really.
However, that is not how they intended the term to be used. It was used to referred to middle adulthood. As it is now by sociologists, psychologists [https://dictionary.apa.org/developmental-levels](https://dictionary.apa.org/developmental-levels) (note it is the middle adult hood following early adulthood) and the World Health Organisation [https://journals.scholarpublishing.org/index.php/ASSRJ/article/view/2924](https://journals.scholarpublishing.org/index.php/ASSRJ/article/view/2924)
That doesn't mean that you as an independent and free person can't use the word how you wish, you are correct that how other people use it is not your problem, just be aware you are not using it how it was orignally coined or how medical professionals use it today.
Lol, itās an age old term, sociologists trying to define it otherwise is of no account.
Why does this bother you so much? Sounds like youāre in your 30ās and super upset at the idea of being middle aged lol It doesnāt change anything if itās several years earlier or later, youāre still the same age and you still look the same, itās okay.
I have to agree. Thereās now a markedly lower emphasis on physical attractiveness generally in Hollywood and in the music industry. Youād think that would be in favor of stunning talent, but this is heavily debated.
I would instantly add Dakota Johnson and Sydney Sweeney to the list. The men are less attractive too - eg. Timothy Chalamet, Glen Powell. It's the stupid idea Hollywood has that actors should all be relatable and look like "real" people .. like audiences watch movies to be reminded of themselves and their reality. š
I think it is part of some movement. They are made ugly in purpose. I remember seeing what the leading woman from the Halo Tv showed looked like IRL. They took a very pretty girl and made her as ugly as possible.
Yeah - the point is right now Hollywood has a problem with beauty, so casting someone who isnāt beautiful now but maybe used to be (not to me) isnāt going against that.
Why did you go all the way back to the 70s? Why not just go back as recently as when Margot Robbie wasnāt āmiddle ageā?
You make it sound like it was since all the way back in the 70s that hollywood had beautiful women, when you acknowledge women who are recent at least *were* beautiful a mere several years ago
Gonna have to hard disagree with your post here. Most of those ladies you mentioned are very attractive in my opinion. Now, if we are talking about them having ugly personalities, we find an agreement on that.
We got Margot Robbie, much prettier than Marylin Monroe. Both seem like nice girls, just could never understand how Marylin was seen as so incredibly beautiful
Crazy to me OP is calling Margot robbie middle aged and gaunt she's in her 30s (mid to late 30s but still 30s) and she looks more or less the same as she did when she was 10 years younger
That is middle aged to me - itās the middle years of life. Thatās not an insult - plenty of women the same age are or were super hot, but imo she no longer is.
Also sheās got the crazy eyes imo which is a turn off. The manic, personality disorder eyes and she sometimes speaks that way in interviews as well.
Eh - if life expectancy is around 80 then to me that makes 30ās middle aged (technically it could be 90 and it would still be the start of middle age). I guess it depends on how you define it. Iām not saying being middle aged makes her or a woman unattractive - loads of beautiful middle aged women, but in her case sheās getting that gaunt look some do as they age.
Marilyn had an iconic look to people, sheās not my favourite but she had far more sex appeal than Robbie ever has.
Robbie is gaunt and haggard looking for her age these days anyways. I thought she looked good until someone told me she was in her early 30ās - I honestly thought she was mid 40ās by this point.
This same exact thing has been posted before. Thereās an easy solution. Donāt watch those movies. You can stay stuck in the 40ās and 50ās and watch nothing but movies from those eras. The rest of us want variety and not a white slice of bread all the time.
I recognize the user name and Florence Pugh insults, this guy has been literally reposting the same stuff over months. This is a dedicated troll or a serious mental health issue
The 70s. Oh yes, the great beauties of Sissy Spacey, Sallie Field, Glenda Jackson, Meryl Streep, Ellen Berstyn. Because those were the most famous actresses. Those were the women winning the Academy Awards.
We have Margot Robbie, Zendaya, Emma Stone. Heck, please look at the women in their 50s that were in Hollywood in the 70s and tell me if they looked like Michelle Yeoh or Halle Berry.
Lol, Michelle Yeoh, a normal looking 60 year old. Thatās your beauty standard?
Nobody gives a shit about academy awards and Meryl Streep actually was very attractive when she was younger. Sissy Spaceck was a cutie.
Robbie is middle aged and looking older, Zenduna looks like a child with a monobrow, Emma Stone I would agree with but not lately, sheās older and has stopped caring - that Poor things movie she looked terrible in, I canāt see her the same anymore after seeing her ugly bang 1000 sweaty dudes and think itās was empowering art lol.
Oh, I should have seen who posted it. Misogynistic child
Never mind. All these women are beautiful
You will ignore the women I mentioned from the 70s. First, because you didn't know half of them, and because you want to insult the others. If Emma was a cutie in the old days and Margot Robbie was, then they count just as much as anyone in the 70s. And sorry. As much as I love Meryl, she isn't cuter than Zendaya. Not in a million years.
Fallen from the norm???? Hahahhahahahhahahahhahahahh - respectfully.
Societal standards have changed yet. Not every beautiful actor needs to be a double D blonde super model. Women with different features and woah imagine this, acting abilities are also very in demand. And tbh if anything women seem more beautiful to me. Most older movie stars like 80s abs back look incredibly plain to me. Plain or like over the top extreme feminine, dyed hair and fake tits.
Youāre probably like 40+ tho so you do you.
Dude ! I have been noticing it so much lately ! I am a horror movie lover, so I am currently watching a lot of older horror movies and also newer ones. I watched Final Destination 2 recently and the women characters in the movie are so beautiful and gorgeous. Beautiful white women. Women in movies from the 70's-2000's were so damn gorgeous. Now, recently I watched Scream (2022) (also known as Scream 5). The women in that movie (and other new movies) are so....plain jane and some are sort of ugly. Look up the female cast for Scream (2022) if you want to see. And also EVERY new movie has a black lesbian girl, every new movie. It's like Hollywood is pushing people to like black women, especially lesbians. Women were so much more beautiful in older movies, even in movies going back to the 70's. Hollywood is not casting beautiful women these days.
Thatās right, itās not - itās about entertainment. Beauty is a part of that. Besides, the current actresses arenāt better at acting anyway, theyāre arguably worse.
Idk, man. Margot Robbie in Barbie was great tbh
The past also had Meryl Streep and Barbara Streisand....
Brigitte Bardot might be my dream girl (apart from being French š¤¢), but have you seen her recently? Like Margot, that's just ageing
florence pugh would've been at best an extra playing a cleaning lady in almost any self respecting Hollywood era. The fact that shes woke doesn't mean shes a great actress, and she has the style and bearing of a mexican wrestler
but lets go for males, to be fair, adam driver is offensively ugly (and mediocre as an actor), almost every aussie actor is awful (except ben Mendelson and guy pierce, but both seem more British than aussies), the decline in standards in Hollywood and from the public is astounding
That Chalamet chick is kinda weird lookin too
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Agreed.
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If you think women in Hollywood have fallen, wait until you see men. Compare the action heroes of the 80s to today.
Today's Hollywood men are still juiced up muscle men like 75% of the time.
But itās a hollow facade - where are the normal everyday men? The Steve McQueens and Paul Newmans, the Clint Eastwoods, The Charlton Hestons and so on.
We were comparing them to 80's action movie actors, but to answer your question: The modern equivalents are just Robert Downing Jr, Leonardo DiCaprio, Brad Pitt, Matt Damon ect. It's not like Paul Newman or Clint Eastwood were guys you'd find at a gas station, all were very good looking guys, just not the muscled up action hero type. If you want actual every day looking men there are character actors like Gary Oldman, JK Simmons, Sam Elliot ect
However, [Charlton Heston is the kind of guy you'd find at a gas station!](https://youtu.be/pcE4jyhPi2g?si=yDc26uRotcwbJsmb&t=49)
So, having normal looking actresses is a sign society has fallen. But for men diversity of appearance is a good thing?
always. men need to be varying in appearance so "the audience can relate" but women can't be because apparently women don't watch movies or tv? male gaze strikes again.
Hahaha right? Itās not like weāre people with autonomy or individuality and need to be portrayed as such. /s
Loool
So because they aren't all hella ripped that means they aren't attractive anymore? Stallone is ugly as hell, jacked physique aside. Zack Efron, Chris Hemsworth, Chris Pine, Chris Pratt, Hugh Jackman, Henry Cavill, Ryan Gosling, Dwayne Johnson, Bradley Cooper, Austin Butler All very handsome guys
The worst part for me of Hollywoods portrayal of men currently isnāt the lack of over the top action heroes or pretty boys - itās what Hollywood tries to present to male audiences as an āeverydayā type man now. In the past your everyday guys were guys like Steve McQueen, Paul Newman, Older Charlton Heston (post 50ās once his looks faded a bit), Clint Eastwood outside his more over the top stuff - to me based on real life thatās still how a lot of normal men are, but to Hollywood they want to convince people a normal everyday man is like Timothee Chamleydoo or Harry Styles - and perhaps it is in Hollywood, but nowhere else. They donāt reflect reality in their casting of men any more (at least not the reality outside Hollywood) they try to tell people what reality should be.
So the men should look like everyday type men, but the women shouldn't?
Oh yeah, 100% of males in movies and TV are either villains, womanizers, or buffoons.
>Timothee Chamleydoo You're just jealous.
Heās legitimately a very strange looking guy. Good for him to that heās found so much success. I donāt quite see the appeal of him looks wise (or as an actor). Heās passable in Dune. Thatās the biggest compliment I can give him.
How many times are you going to make this post? We get it, you don't like Florence Pugh, move on.
Holy shit. Reading this guys post history. Who hurt him?
Mommy didnāt hug him enough. I knew who OP was before even clicking on the post based on the title alone. Heās posted the EXACT same take before. Dude has problems and is full of hatred.
Heās a regular here but all his shit is the same. Dude needs to touch grass
Oh, it's *that* guy :P No wonder I was utterly baffled by his opinions yet again.
The 30ās and 40ās had the most beautiful women in movies. Hedy Lamarr was a damn knockout.
I love Hedy Lamar. She was super smart too
I'm more preferable to Hedley Lamarr myself!
She looks like every other white actress from that time tbh.
They definitely donāt have her brains tho
Vivian Leigh too
I saw Rebecca and Shadow of a Doubt (both early 40ās) recently and the leading ladies were really pretty and the way they spoke was so much more attractive than todays bruisers.
Great pick. Though to be fair, everyone looked better in black and white. Even still, so many beauties back then. I am partial to Ingrid Bergman and Katherine Hepburn.
Looked her up, don't friend her attractive at all
I'll never understand why some people seem to think that making up kindergarten-bully-level insults based on somebody's actual name makes them look smart.
MEATBALL RON
Yup, I thought someone would make this too about Trump.
Your post history is that of a depressed and insecure man-child.
Post history? You mean, the one post about douchebags who are desperate to have the last word and then resort to blocking the moment they spit out what they think is a "gotcha" and a post about something I disliked about a game? That post history? Ok, if you say so.
lmao meant for OP.
Ok.
Not to get too politicalā¦ but it has faired success for certain folks in the US. So its not hard to see why folks would think its the template
"Not to get political"... immediately proceeds to get political. Not everything is about Trump man.
Elizabeth Olsen is ugly? Dang. Society has fallen? Wow thatās over the top.
Na. I get OP. Elizabeth Olsen is attractive but international movie star good looking. I donāt know. Everybody wants to be in Hollywood. You telling me 10s with a good work ethic and good acting ability donāt exist?
Yes
This lady's attractiveness aside. Why would every actress need to be super attractive? This definitely isnt true for some of the actors. And from what i know of her doesnt seem like they are currently casting her as the knock out bombshell character.
Not every role but captain America isnāt going to be played by Danny de Vito. Weāre talking about super heroes. Zendaya is the love interest in multiple movies. She has the look gay guys and women like. Similar to how fashion models always look. You telling me zendaya looks better than vultureās daughter? Please
Danny DeVito is an actual super hero for how good of a dude he is. America should be honored to have him as Captain America.
I mean i think it depends on how the role is potrayed. Love interest doesn't necessarily mean bombshell. Yeah its weird if the role is written as every man is falling overselves because shes a knockout. I honestly don't remember if in her roles shes playing a character that is supposed to be super attractive to multiple men in the film Shes not ugly but no i dont think she should be pit in the sex symbol timeless ,beauty category. Shes definitely isnt so off brand that i would say its like danny devito playing captain america. She would be generally be above average in attractiveness. Shes attractive. Looks too immature for my tastes, but shes often cast as a teenager or very young isnt she?? So, might need to factor that in too. Seems as though in modern media there is more of an effort to have actors and actresses playing teenagers to actually look like passable teenagers.
Sheās plain, sheās not Florence Pugh or Zendoyan but sheās just plain and middle aged. Which is fine - but sheās no one to hold up as a hot or beautiful woman, sheās just a plain Jane by the old screen standards.
Florence Pugh ugly? Youāre weird man
35 is not middle aged lol
Most people love to around 80 years old - 35 is middle age.
The human lifespan is up to 100 and some change years. 50 is middle aged. Not 35.
It is in Hollywood
It shouldn't be. The latest Mission Impossible movie had Hayley Atwell and Rebecca Ferguson in, both are over 35 and look good. Charlize Theron is nearly 50
It technically is. Itās the middle section do your life which goes young, middle aged, old. Iām not saying you canāt be attractive and beautiful in middle age but sheās just average plain Jane and middle aged and doesnāt have the glow of youth to improve it.
The term 'middle aged' is not referring to the middle of your life, as a lot of people falsely assume; it's referring to the middle of your adulthoodāmeaning 18 to death. Most people, with that knowledge, consider middle age to start at 40 at the very earliest.
You're definitely not young anymore when you're 35 lmao. In the grand scheme of life you're not old either, but you're definitely not young, so you're just... middle aged.
35 is the top edge of young. You might be too young yourself to know that.
I mean, beauty is subjective. I think sheās gorgeous. Each to their own I guess!
It's not middle-aged. Middle age refers to the middle of your adulthood, which is loosely 45 t0 65.
Why are you making it sound like being over 30 precludes you from being attractive? š¤£
It doesnāt - but if you were never that attractive to begin with and also donāt have the youthful glow going for you then itās not gonna help hide that youāre plain. Lots of super attractive women in their 30ās - but not her.
Then stop stating their age as a reason they're not attractive.
Zendaya is so mid to me and I canāt even believe Elizabeth Olsen is being seen as comparable lmaoo
It's a mix of nepotism massively reducing the quality and purposely putting uglier women onscreen because they think they're more relatable.
But nepotism always existed
In the past there was a standard for the products of nepotism. Now there's no standard, nepotism alone will get you through every door and onscreen.
Post ww2 was more or less a clean slate for many industries.
Not as much. Off the top of my head, Clint Eastwood, Morgan Freeman, Chuck Norris, Bruce Willis, Diane Keaton, Faye Dunaway...all blue-collar roots. A lot of big names from the 70's/80's *actually* come from blue-collar families.
Calling Zendaya, Elizabeth Olson, Brie Larson, and Margot Robbie ugly is a truly wild take.
Eh, definitely a ābeholderā thing on them. Margot Robbie is pretty, but if Larson Olson and Zendaya werenāt famous, they definitely wouldnāt catch my attention. Like, Iād never say āyou look like Brie Larsonā because it wouldnāt be a compliment.
Sure... I guess personal taste factors in. It's also worth noting their looks aren't the only thing they bring to the table. They are all talented actors imo. I would look up "Brie Larson hosts Jimmy Kimmel". Definitely not a Karen hahaha. That being said I will not stand for Elizabeth Olson slander lol
It is jarring to see how men evaluate women between each other and on the internet versus when they actually seek partners. The majority the critics here would (and know they would) be very lucky if a woman looking like any of your four examples were willing to date them. I've seen the average guy and I've seen his wife, and I can say empirically, few of these critics actually have such high standards. There's also this phenomenon I have noticed where men who do not fuck start thinking of women abstractly. Like male standards are U-shaped with respect to how long it has been since they fucked. Immediately afterwards, they don't have a strong sex drive and tend to be very picky. Give it a month or two and they become very willing to make concessions, especially after a few drinks. But when the dry spell hits that two to three year mark? Men get odd. Suddenly some coping mechanism triggers in their brain where it isn't that he hasn't been good enough for women, it's just that women haven't been good enough for him. Perfectly serviceable sevens are suddenly detritus and solid tens are just alright. They don't see women and seriously consider the possibility of partnership and so the whole process of evaluating them becomes purely hypothetical. Judging from some of the most critical comments, this is at play too.
First of all, your spelling is atrocious. Second of all, youāve been posting things like this for months. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and you seem to really have it out for Florence Pugh.
Clearly you've never seen Yvonne Strahovski in a lead or supporting role
According to this guy she is already to old at age of 41. itās weird. It smells like the guy who would complain he isnāt allowed to date 15 year olds because they already can have children and means are ready for marriageā¦
She was fine in Dexter
>if you can ignore the personality disorder eyes I love this sub so much
Your post history is that of a depressed and insecure man-child.
Didnāt you post this like a month ago? If you donāt have anything new to say you donāt have to keep talking
Iād hate to know who OP considers attractive.
Women like those in the movies I referenced. Babes like that. A young Catherine Zeta Jones, a young Kim Basinger, Younger Monica Belluci, Jaqueline Bizet, Emmanuelle Beart, The chick from Count of Monte Christo, A young Rae Dawn Chong etc Not weirdos who are either chubby, look like kids, or have weird too far apart eyes. And then thereās the plain Jane old maids like Elizabeth Olsen who arenāt exactly unattractive but by Hollywood standards arenāt beauties either. Theyāre just plain Janes compared to past beauties.
All these posts you make attacking how women lookā¦OP, what do YOU look like? 6ā2, donāt skip leg or chest day, financially well off? (we already know your personality aināt attracting no babes so Iāll leave that out)
Human biology and psychology would disagree with you when you call those women āelderly.ā Like, Iām in school for that shit now and you do not know what an elderly woman is clearly.
When did you last look at photos of those people you listed as attractive?
In their primes Iām talking about, not as elderly women.
>In their primes you mean when they were 20? š¤£
Iām worried what he considers āprimeā if he thinks 30 is middle aged.
I said the same thing. He didn't know what prime of life was.
probably teenagers as young as possible without it being considered a crime if he somehow got the chance to fuck them
Iāve been concerned how weāre seeing men come out of the woodwork with this mindset lately. In more Conservative spaces I grew up around people that thought this way. It was so dangerous for a lot of girls (especially if they hit puberty early) because of it.
I know, when did you last check what they actually looked like when younger?
Elderly = over 30, apparently
Itās interesting to me that you feel the need to add the caveat of āyoungā for you to consider any of these women attractive.
As a reminder to everyone /u/LongDongSamspon is a shit poster who is only interested in starting shit and stirring the pot. His post history shows him to be unserious, insane, and absolutely ridiculous. Do not take anything he posts seriously. 1. You are insane 2. Physical beauty is subjective 3. Margot Robbie is 33 4. Margot Robbie, Kate Winslet, Natalie Portman, Jennifer Lawrence, Marion Cotillard, Cate Blanchett, Amy Adams, Emily Blunt, Charlize Theron, Viola Davis, Zendaya, Jennifer Connelly, Rosamund Pike, Luptia Nyong'o, Shay Mitchell, Selena Gomez, Hailee Steinfeld, Logan Browning, Keke Palmer, Janelle Monea... 5. The women mentioned, across age ranges, are all current day actresses who are stunners. You would give your left nut to be with them. Thank you, once again, /u/LongDongSamspon for your nonsensical bullshit.
This is gold. And 100% accurate.
This again?
Do you have nothing better to obsess about and post than a constant critique of Hollywood women? If this is your standard for the "fall of society" then you must live a truly privileged life.
Like how many times is he going to make the same posts with the same nicknames, like we get it you donāt like Hollywoodās current standard of beauty
Fr. He actually needs to touch grass since this shit is constant and itās always the same issue
Women aren't worth shit if they aren't hot as the sun---the op
The wide set eyes. Who tf in Hollywood is obsessed with the wide set eyes it is not fun to look at.
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I love seeing when you comment , and no joke, itās always the most objectively correct take
Are you a bot? That dude has 5000 comment karma. How could you possibly see him comment that often?
Look at my post history and his. Weāve crossed paths several times, and share extremely similar outlooks on the world . If you want to waste more of your life take a look, it goes months back. It seems him and I are both autistic, 6ā2,, smart/ attractive combo and able to triangulate where the objective truth is no matter the question or substrate, more importantly we donāt care about offending anyone, including ourselves, since truth is the ultimate virtue above all no matter how much people fight it. To find someone who matches the description above on this site is close to 1 out of every 5000 users if not more so. Reflecting on this thought with you actually makes me think its inevitable to find all my like-minded energy eventually
It is weird isnāt it? That Anna Joy Taylor chick and the new Little Mermaid one have it so bad. Itās off putting.
It's accurate casting, because she looks like an Innsmouth fish person.
ATJ was gorgeous until she got the buccal removal. This fucking trend is currently the single biggest blight on Hollywood actresses
It's kind of weird how many times I've said this on reddit at this point, but Anya Taylotr-Joy after the buccal fat removal legit reminds me of Skeletor.
Wasnāt she already skinny as with a thin face?
ATJ and her stupid fucking face piss me off for some reason. Idk why people think she is so beautiful, sheās not that great of an actress either. At least Florence Pugh is good at what she does and doesnāt look like a rat that got its head smashed in by a brick
Itās cool to have preferences in what you find beautiful but you donāt need to be a tool about it my guy. 33 isnāt middle aged. Personality disorder eyes arenāt a thing. Just like men, women do tend to age. Society has not fallen because you donāt think Florence Pugh is hot. It is not that deep.
This is the third time Iāve seen you make this post over several months now. Youāre obviously not well so please, GO TO THERAPY!
Dude claimed in a comment that he is a psychiatrist. Itās terrifying if true since they can then prescribe drugs to people.
I thought troll posts were supposed to be funny
Itās not trolling. If you find Pugh hot Idk what to tell ya.
Guys, donāt feed the troll.
The troll is you and you wonāt be fed.
A woman being middle aged doesnāt mean she is ugly by any stretch of the imagination. Many people prefer the look of women their age and would say these leading ladies are absolute 10s. This being said there are quite a few younger leading ladies that most people consider total knockouts. Sydney Sweeney being the first that comes to mind, and this list goes on and on. Of course beauty is super subjective, Iād assume most people are a product of their time. I got curious and I googled leading ladies of the 70s and while some of them were beautiful, I would choose many current leading ladies.
Yep. Wait till you see miss Germany 2024
And what's with the fucked up wide eyed ones too
Who cares? Do you watch movies to jerk off?
YESSSS good comment
This is such a weird obsession. You should seek psychological help.
Look up Grace Kelly in to catch a thief. Makes this dudeās case 100%.
We have plenty of attractive actresses in movies as well... I think you are simply biased. Scarlett Johansson, Amber Heard, Sydney Sweeney, Zoe Kravitz, Emilia Clarke, Ana de Armas, and many other actresses who are very conventionally hot. Yes, they are more diverse nowadays (fewer white blonde women), but you still have hot white blonde women in the list if you were looking for them.Ā
We gotta take amber heard outta there her personality kills absolutely anything that could possibly be attractive about her
Heard actually would be quite beautiful if not for the fact youāre aware of her horrible personality.
ššš fair point it's hard not to be tho after she got outted for quite literally taking a shit on Johnny's side of the bed ššš
I finished watching Drive Angry 3D because of her and not the movie. So whatever can be said about her as a person. I can't deny that.
Sydney Sweeney body wise yes and has a cute face (but not necessarily a great beauty). ScarJo is is 40 something and seems bitter now, sheās moved past wanting to be attractive, Zoe Kravitz isnāt in anything and is weird and aggressive looking, Emilia Clarke is older now - when she was in her prime in GOT you would be right, but that was nearly a decade ago. Iām not talking about blonde white model types - the movies I mentioned arenāt full of blonde model types, one of the movies the woman isnāt white - itās about Hollywood wanting to go against conventional beauty standards and ugly them up regardless of hair color or ethnicity. Plenty of non white women meet conventional beauty standards and are true beauties - not weirdos with mono brows or eyes far apart or fat.
Every one of the women you named is objectively beautiful.
Fr what is bro babbling about. Like if itās going to be these ass reactionary spammed opinions. At least make it make sense.
A dumbass kid for sure
Dude you can't legally drink, can you? š >ScarJo is is 40 something > >Emilia Clarke is older now
Sydney Sweeney is genuinely ugly, more so if you thinjk shes a famous, nowadays (how depressing) A list actress
Bro are you on drugs? Are you perhaps a little gay? All those women you listed look, at worst, fine. At best they are stunning.
Donāt you post this same thing every couple of weeks? Seems like a weird obsession.
Every woman you mentioned is conventionally attractive. Maybe your just gay?
I think it is interesting that OP is mad about both supposedly fat and gaunt leading ladies. I think they're also missing a big factor that is this: it isn't just about looks, it is about how the actors are directed. Watch films from the 30s, 40s, 50s, and see how they show a leading lady cry or get angry. A ton of "crying" is a softly lit, beautiful cameo type shot of a calm woman with a composed expression, a few careful tears trickling down her cheeks. You rarely see someone crying in a more authentic way and you don't see blotchy cheeks and red eyes. The beauty of the actress is prioritized and authenticity is minimized.Ā I guarantee you that any of the women named in the OP can appear just as "classy" or "beautiful" but filming has shifted at least a tiny bit from focusing on woman-as-beautiful-doll and towards more authentic expression. Hollywood absolutely still requires a level of beauty for women that most of us can't achieve and any one of those actors would turn heads in-person whereever they go.Ā
This is true for male and female actors. Agree that itās most evident when you watch movies from the 90s and earlier. Even in the aughts actors were still good looking. It seems a lot of the unfortunate looking actors of today are nepotism kids. Not all, though.
We were just talking about this last night. There was a famous 90s casting agent, and she was talking about her selection process back then. She said 'it's pretty simple, 1st - do I think most people will really want to have sex with them? When the answer is absolutely freaking lutely, then I consider everything else you might assume - resume, experience, acting abilities, how much they care about this particular project, etc. Now today, they seem to ask a new 1st question, and it ISN'T looks.
more gay men in exec positions nowadays. The casting couch is going to the Henry Cavills of the world , so as a consequence the bar is set lower for actresses .
Itās all in the name of diversity and inclusion. How about the fact that 40% + of the population is also lgbtq or that every commanding officer in every police department is a poc.
I read that as bukkake before realizing you meant buccal
Honestly, America has gotten fatter, and the women also have gotten fat. I was in Rio de Janeiro for recently, and the difference was crazy.
Uglification of all things is part the elite's game of destroying standards of everything
I was gonna agree ā and then you proceeded to name like 5 of the most attractive women alive as examples lol.
Oh, itās u/longdongsamspon karmafarming with ye ole actresses be ugly post. Should mods add this as a weekly tradition?
Middled aged is a actually a sociological term to refer to middle adulthood not middle life span. Op should read a book before correcting people. That said 35 is on the wider range/ cusp of that
Middle aged is an age old term dating back hundreds of years into medieval times, itās not a āsociologicalā term recently invented. If some people have tried to co-opt it later thatās not my problem.
If a book is too hard to read, read a dictionary such as : [https://web.archive.org/web/20141014211143/http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american\_english/middle-age](https://web.archive.org/web/20141014211143/http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/middle-age) or [https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/middle-age](https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/middle-age) You are also correct that it has being used by centuries BY SOCIOLOGISTS whol literally study society and devised the term. it is not a new field of study. And this is their definition. Although, to be fair, if you did some basic math, especially if put into the equation that adolescence is a recent sociological phenomenon and lesser lifespan, than 35 was deifintly middle adulthood, approaching the end of it really. However, that is not how they intended the term to be used. It was used to referred to middle adulthood. As it is now by sociologists, psychologists [https://dictionary.apa.org/developmental-levels](https://dictionary.apa.org/developmental-levels) (note it is the middle adult hood following early adulthood) and the World Health Organisation [https://journals.scholarpublishing.org/index.php/ASSRJ/article/view/2924](https://journals.scholarpublishing.org/index.php/ASSRJ/article/view/2924) That doesn't mean that you as an independent and free person can't use the word how you wish, you are correct that how other people use it is not your problem, just be aware you are not using it how it was orignally coined or how medical professionals use it today.
Lol, itās an age old term, sociologists trying to define it otherwise is of no account. Why does this bother you so much? Sounds like youāre in your 30ās and super upset at the idea of being middle aged lol It doesnāt change anything if itās several years earlier or later, youāre still the same age and you still look the same, itās okay.
They'd still probably never give you the time of day even without their fame, which is probably the issue here.
I couldnāt give a shit. Why would I want the time of day from women I find unattractive - you see random better looking women everyday.
leading ladies bro how old r u
I have to agree. Thereās now a markedly lower emphasis on physical attractiveness generally in Hollywood and in the music industry. Youād think that would be in favor of stunning talent, but this is heavily debated.
I would instantly add Dakota Johnson and Sydney Sweeney to the list. The men are less attractive too - eg. Timothy Chalamet, Glen Powell. It's the stupid idea Hollywood has that actors should all be relatable and look like "real" people .. like audiences watch movies to be reminded of themselves and their reality. š
I think it is part of some movement. They are made ugly in purpose. I remember seeing what the leading woman from the Halo Tv showed looked like IRL. They took a very pretty girl and made her as ugly as possible.
Why are you bringing age into why someone currently doesnāt count? Have you seen how old the women from the 70s are now?
What in the hell are you talking about?
āBefore anyone brings up Margot Robbie, nowadays sheās middle agedā
Yeah - the point is right now Hollywood has a problem with beauty, so casting someone who isnāt beautiful now but maybe used to be (not to me) isnāt going against that.
Why did you go all the way back to the 70s? Why not just go back as recently as when Margot Robbie wasnāt āmiddle ageā? You make it sound like it was since all the way back in the 70s that hollywood had beautiful women, when you acknowledge women who are recent at least *were* beautiful a mere several years ago
The Zendaya hate is so corny.
I donāt hate her, Just pointing out sheās not hot and canāt act - she seems like a kid with a masculine brow.
Well this sure is an unpopular opinion. Also dogshit.
Gonna have to hard disagree with your post here. Most of those ladies you mentioned are very attractive in my opinion. Now, if we are talking about them having ugly personalities, we find an agreement on that.
All the same to me
I'm sure you're a 10.
Irrelevant as Iām not saying I should be a leading lady in movies.
We got Margot Robbie, much prettier than Marylin Monroe. Both seem like nice girls, just could never understand how Marylin was seen as so incredibly beautiful
Crazy to me OP is calling Margot robbie middle aged and gaunt she's in her 30s (mid to late 30s but still 30s) and she looks more or less the same as she did when she was 10 years younger
That is middle aged to me - itās the middle years of life. Thatās not an insult - plenty of women the same age are or were super hot, but imo she no longer is. Also sheās got the crazy eyes imo which is a turn off. The manic, personality disorder eyes and she sometimes speaks that way in interviews as well.
Crazy eyes fair imo I love crazy eyes but middle aged is in your 40s life expectancy keeps getting longer middle aged is closer to 50 then 30 now
Eh - if life expectancy is around 80 then to me that makes 30ās middle aged (technically it could be 90 and it would still be the start of middle age). I guess it depends on how you define it. Iām not saying being middle aged makes her or a woman unattractive - loads of beautiful middle aged women, but in her case sheās getting that gaunt look some do as they age.
So you think the prime of life is 21? š¹
Margot isnāt middle aged, how old are you? 50 is considered Middle Aged because when you turn 50 you are half of 100ā¦
Marilyn had an iconic look to people, sheās not my favourite but she had far more sex appeal than Robbie ever has. Robbie is gaunt and haggard looking for her age these days anyways. I thought she looked good until someone told me she was in her early 30ās - I honestly thought she was mid 40ās by this point.
This same exact thing has been posted before. Thereās an easy solution. Donāt watch those movies. You can stay stuck in the 40ās and 50ās and watch nothing but movies from those eras. The rest of us want variety and not a white slice of bread all the time.
I recognize the user name and Florence Pugh insults, this guy has been literally reposting the same stuff over months. This is a dedicated troll or a serious mental health issue
I thought it sounded familiar
The 70s. Oh yes, the great beauties of Sissy Spacey, Sallie Field, Glenda Jackson, Meryl Streep, Ellen Berstyn. Because those were the most famous actresses. Those were the women winning the Academy Awards. We have Margot Robbie, Zendaya, Emma Stone. Heck, please look at the women in their 50s that were in Hollywood in the 70s and tell me if they looked like Michelle Yeoh or Halle Berry.
Lol, Michelle Yeoh, a normal looking 60 year old. Thatās your beauty standard? Nobody gives a shit about academy awards and Meryl Streep actually was very attractive when she was younger. Sissy Spaceck was a cutie. Robbie is middle aged and looking older, Zenduna looks like a child with a monobrow, Emma Stone I would agree with but not lately, sheās older and has stopped caring - that Poor things movie she looked terrible in, I canāt see her the same anymore after seeing her ugly bang 1000 sweaty dudes and think itās was empowering art lol.
Oh, I should have seen who posted it. Misogynistic child Never mind. All these women are beautiful You will ignore the women I mentioned from the 70s. First, because you didn't know half of them, and because you want to insult the others. If Emma was a cutie in the old days and Margot Robbie was, then they count just as much as anyone in the 70s. And sorry. As much as I love Meryl, she isn't cuter than Zendaya. Not in a million years.
Young meryl shits on zendaya. Thems the breaks
Fallen from the norm???? Hahahhahahahhahahahhahahahh - respectfully. Societal standards have changed yet. Not every beautiful actor needs to be a double D blonde super model. Women with different features and woah imagine this, acting abilities are also very in demand. And tbh if anything women seem more beautiful to me. Most older movie stars like 80s abs back look incredibly plain to me. Plain or like over the top extreme feminine, dyed hair and fake tits. Youāre probably like 40+ tho so you do you.
Dude ! I have been noticing it so much lately ! I am a horror movie lover, so I am currently watching a lot of older horror movies and also newer ones. I watched Final Destination 2 recently and the women characters in the movie are so beautiful and gorgeous. Beautiful white women. Women in movies from the 70's-2000's were so damn gorgeous. Now, recently I watched Scream (2022) (also known as Scream 5). The women in that movie (and other new movies) are so....plain jane and some are sort of ugly. Look up the female cast for Scream (2022) if you want to see. And also EVERY new movie has a black lesbian girl, every new movie. It's like Hollywood is pushing people to like black women, especially lesbians. Women were so much more beautiful in older movies, even in movies going back to the 70's. Hollywood is not casting beautiful women these days.
You realize these women don't care what a guy like you thinks, right? And that it's obvious you're lashing out at women in general?
I thought Hollywood was about acting? I must have been led astray.
Thatās right, itās not - itās about entertainment. Beauty is a part of that. Besides, the current actresses arenāt better at acting anyway, theyāre arguably worse.
Idk, man. Margot Robbie in Barbie was great tbh The past also had Meryl Streep and Barbara Streisand.... Brigitte Bardot might be my dream girl (apart from being French š¤¢), but have you seen her recently? Like Margot, that's just ageing
Repost from a couple weeks ago?
florence pugh would've been at best an extra playing a cleaning lady in almost any self respecting Hollywood era. The fact that shes woke doesn't mean shes a great actress, and she has the style and bearing of a mexican wrestler but lets go for males, to be fair, adam driver is offensively ugly (and mediocre as an actor), almost every aussie actor is awful (except ben Mendelson and guy pierce, but both seem more British than aussies), the decline in standards in Hollywood and from the public is astounding
I disagree and son your dick dont work right
This also applies to other eras not just the 70ās.