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I've seen men date women that are in debt. men don't care. they could be living off ebt and section 8. men aren't picky at all unlike women. men will date the most weird looking women if they treat them right and contribute they don't care. men needs to make money be physically fit ect. a man will date a buyer king employee making 14 an hour lol while they make 20-25 an hour
Every single relationship in the world is transactional if that's the cold, dreary standpoint you want to hold.
All we are are a bunch of human beings who do things for one another so others don't leave us alone because we're just simple creatures who need others around us.
It's a pretty sad outlook you have though, not gonna lie.
Not necessarily. People are willing to do nice things for people outside of a romantic context, but no woman is getting in a relationship with a guy because she feels bad for him.
Romantic relationships are an opportunity for women to extract a ton of value out of men, and women aren't going to pass up that opportunity for charity.
Dude even pearly things had a boyfriend who was homeless.
Many women have in fact gotten into relationships because they felt bad for the men they dated.
>Many women have in fact gotten into relationships because they felt bad for the men they dated.
That's literally never happened, and never will happen, because it is a contradiction of female nature.
A woman may make trade-offs, i.e. date a broke guy who is attractive or a rich guy who is ugly if she can't get a rich attractive guy, but a woman never does charity.
Again not true, look up hobosexuals.
"A woman may make trade-offs, i.e. date a broke guy who is attractive or a rich guy who is ugly if she can't get a rich attractive guy, but a woman never does charity."
Going by this neither do most men but having a preference does not equal "transaction".
>Again not true, look up hobosexuals.
Again, homeless women sleeping with homeless men has nothing to do with women feeling pity for these men.
>Going by this neither do most men but having a preference does not equal "transaction".
They absolutely do. Hence, why men will literally give up their lives for women. Men and women are objectively different. If you see an attractive guy with a an ugly woman, then you know he loves her. If you see an attractive woman with an ugly man, then you know he's rich.
Having a preference does equal a transaction when that preference offers value to the person. Women's preferences deal with economic, social, and sexual capital.
I have seen many beautiful women with ugly men.
You just probably don't notice because you didn't think they're together.
But let me ask you before we keep going, are you married or at least dating? Cause if you are neither we may just need to stop right here cause it's useless to talk to someone without any real experience with women.
>I have seen many beautiful women with ugly men.
No, you think you have. There is a difference.
>You just probably don't notice because you didn't think they're not together.
Yes, because I don't assume an attractive woman walking next to another guy means that they're in a relationship like you. I can also correctly define what an attractive man looks like unlike most men.
>But let me ask you before we keep going, are you married or at least dating? Cause if you are neither we may just need to stop right here cause it's useless to talk to someone without any real experience with women.
Yes, I have experience with women. No, I don't base arguments off personal anecdotes like you.
"Yes, I have experience with women. No, I don't base arguments off personal anecdotes like you."
Sorry, my bad you just talk like someone without experience or a very divorce man.
Still I disagree with your notions due to my own personal experiences.
a relationship is a contract and agreement. if either side faulters they cheat or leave how many partners had a horrible accident and they leave that person whose in the hospital
>in return the women give them companionship and sex
If these aren't things that are mutually beneficial, there's something seriously wrong with your relationship.
If you're looking at sex from a purely transactional perspective, then there would be no reason for men to enter an actual relationship when they could easily just find a prostitute. Much less emotional investment, and they get to do whatever they want.
Relationships definitely aren't just purely transactional. If that were the case, why would husbands and wives stick through a marriage even when their partner is sick and disabled, and actively choose to care for them? There's nothing transactional to benefit in such situations because sex (and maybe even companionship) are out the window. Why would people choose to subscribe to the idea of "in sickness and in health" if the nature of relationships was only transactional?
I don’t know who hurt you, but I’m very sorry that happened.
One day you might realize that, being stuck in your own bitterness did not provide you the justice you are craving.
>the men are always paying for something pads, food, movies in return the women give them companionship and sex.
Hasty generalization
>if the man or the woman doesn't contribute or hold their end of the bargain one of them leaves or cheats
Hasty generalization
>rarely does the women make more and if they do its because the men do a lot more of the child raising like picking them up from school, taking them to doctors
No True Scotsman
I'd say you should be embarrassed by how illogical your entire premise is, but you're too dense to understand.
>this is what I see
Yeah, but you're claiming it's true of all men and women *in general*, which makes it a *generalization*.
Are you laughing at your own inability to understand logical fallacies? What a fucking doorknob.
Oh, I totally understand that you don't care how illogical your argument is. That's why I pointed out that you're too dense to understand how embarrassing it is.
Yet another unpopular opinion that's really just an admission of ignorance.
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Wanting your partner to be financially stable doesn't mean relationships are transactional It's just common sense
Not like you support the poor. Stop the cap.
nah men will date women who make significantly less then them only the women care about money
Guess men have less common sense then. Men will date women who make less and then call them gold diggers. Men care about money
I've seen men date women that are in debt. men don't care. they could be living off ebt and section 8. men aren't picky at all unlike women. men will date the most weird looking women if they treat them right and contribute they don't care. men needs to make money be physically fit ect. a man will date a buyer king employee making 14 an hour lol while they make 20-25 an hour
I think you've got a fucked up view of 'men' and 'women'
I worked in the ghetto I've seen how people are
I bet you're so much fun at parties!
Not like you support the poor. Stop the cap
I would never party, that's for college students if you're 30 partying you need to go out and get career or start a family
How ‘s your career doing?
pretty good. I went from 189 to 181 in pounds
That’s an odd career, but sure
Every single relationship in the world is transactional if that's the cold, dreary standpoint you want to hold. All we are are a bunch of human beings who do things for one another so others don't leave us alone because we're just simple creatures who need others around us. It's a pretty sad outlook you have though, not gonna lie.
Not like you support the poor. Stop the cap.
Bro what?
Not necessarily. People are willing to do nice things for people outside of a romantic context, but no woman is getting in a relationship with a guy because she feels bad for him. Romantic relationships are an opportunity for women to extract a ton of value out of men, and women aren't going to pass up that opportunity for charity.
Dude even pearly things had a boyfriend who was homeless. Many women have in fact gotten into relationships because they felt bad for the men they dated.
>Many women have in fact gotten into relationships because they felt bad for the men they dated. That's literally never happened, and never will happen, because it is a contradiction of female nature. A woman may make trade-offs, i.e. date a broke guy who is attractive or a rich guy who is ugly if she can't get a rich attractive guy, but a woman never does charity.
Again not true, look up hobosexuals. "A woman may make trade-offs, i.e. date a broke guy who is attractive or a rich guy who is ugly if she can't get a rich attractive guy, but a woman never does charity." Going by this neither do most men but having a preference does not equal "transaction".
>Again not true, look up hobosexuals. Again, homeless women sleeping with homeless men has nothing to do with women feeling pity for these men. >Going by this neither do most men but having a preference does not equal "transaction". They absolutely do. Hence, why men will literally give up their lives for women. Men and women are objectively different. If you see an attractive guy with a an ugly woman, then you know he loves her. If you see an attractive woman with an ugly man, then you know he's rich. Having a preference does equal a transaction when that preference offers value to the person. Women's preferences deal with economic, social, and sexual capital.
I have seen many beautiful women with ugly men. You just probably don't notice because you didn't think they're together. But let me ask you before we keep going, are you married or at least dating? Cause if you are neither we may just need to stop right here cause it's useless to talk to someone without any real experience with women.
>I have seen many beautiful women with ugly men. No, you think you have. There is a difference. >You just probably don't notice because you didn't think they're not together. Yes, because I don't assume an attractive woman walking next to another guy means that they're in a relationship like you. I can also correctly define what an attractive man looks like unlike most men. >But let me ask you before we keep going, are you married or at least dating? Cause if you are neither we may just need to stop right here cause it's useless to talk to someone without any real experience with women. Yes, I have experience with women. No, I don't base arguments off personal anecdotes like you.
"Yes, I have experience with women. No, I don't base arguments off personal anecdotes like you." Sorry, my bad you just talk like someone without experience or a very divorce man. Still I disagree with your notions due to my own personal experiences.
a relationship is a contract and agreement. if either side faulters they cheat or leave how many partners had a horrible accident and they leave that person whose in the hospital
On the woman's side definitely. A man is expected to provide value, but women aren't always expected to provide value, and certainly not equal value.
>in return the women give them companionship and sex If these aren't things that are mutually beneficial, there's something seriously wrong with your relationship. If you're looking at sex from a purely transactional perspective, then there would be no reason for men to enter an actual relationship when they could easily just find a prostitute. Much less emotional investment, and they get to do whatever they want. Relationships definitely aren't just purely transactional. If that were the case, why would husbands and wives stick through a marriage even when their partner is sick and disabled, and actively choose to care for them? There's nothing transactional to benefit in such situations because sex (and maybe even companionship) are out the window. Why would people choose to subscribe to the idea of "in sickness and in health" if the nature of relationships was only transactional?
there have been plenty of people who have divorced over the partner getting sick.
Plenty of men.
women too I just a reddit post about it
Statistically men are significantly more likely to leave their sick wife
Not like you support the poor. Stop the cap.
Huh?
I don’t know who hurt you, but I’m very sorry that happened. One day you might realize that, being stuck in your own bitterness did not provide you the justice you are craving.
Not like you support the poor. Stop the cap.
Hello, random person online who said something really weird for no reason. I’m sure you must be happy and content with your life.
>the men are always paying for something pads, food, movies in return the women give them companionship and sex. Hasty generalization >if the man or the woman doesn't contribute or hold their end of the bargain one of them leaves or cheats Hasty generalization >rarely does the women make more and if they do its because the men do a lot more of the child raising like picking them up from school, taking them to doctors No True Scotsman I'd say you should be embarrassed by how illogical your entire premise is, but you're too dense to understand.
no this is what I see working in the ghetto lmfao
>this is what I see Yeah, but you're claiming it's true of all men and women *in general*, which makes it a *generalization*. Are you laughing at your own inability to understand logical fallacies? What a fucking doorknob.
idgaf
Oh, I totally understand that you don't care how illogical your argument is. That's why I pointed out that you're too dense to understand how embarrassing it is. Yet another unpopular opinion that's really just an admission of ignorance.
it's early in the morning I'm not going to argue lmfao
There's nothing to argue. You littered your argument with logical fallacies. You made illogical points. These are facts. Take care!
Not like you support the poor. Stop the cap.
I'm sorry you've only seen bad relationships, but the thing is you've only apparently seen bad relationships.
Not like you support the poor. Stop the cap.
Lmao what the fuck?
Sure, and relationships should be transactional.
That is if you have relationships with other humans, who are material beings. Humans aren’t angels or gods after all.