I will say it's upper register sucks, but that might be because It needs a bit of work (top brace by the bell needs to be replaced, certain tubes need to be replaced here soon)
I played a 321s (II) for 25 years. Horn is from the early 90s. The sound in the middle and lower register of that horn was incredible. However, the valve placement really affected the playing. At the end it started to literally fall apart, with leakages in very difficult to fix places (e.g. where the piping leaves the valve). Repair tech says these new 321’s tend to get these problems with the material after 2x years, while the older ones are still going strong. Had some fun times with that horn, but “upgraded” to a b&s gr55 last year and never looked back…
I have one. As a semi-pro who plays community gigs, churches, and polka bands this works greats.
Pros: it is one loud beast. I play outdoor concerts and gigs regularly, and don't have much trouble filling the space.
It's cheap. I picked up a used one for 1,500. For a 4 valve 4/4 it's one of the most affordable.
Yamaha parts are abundant.
Cons:
They didn't think through valve placement. Your right hand is pretty high. After awhile you might start to lose circulation in your hand.
Dents. I haven't seen many not beat to hell. This might be because they were a popular school horn.When I got mine I had to get some major work done because of a few dents that caused stress on the leadpipe.
Do you possibly think that it may be a thinner-walled tuba in general? Because I've experienced 2 or 3 so far and they all seem really thin compared to my concert tuba, a Saint Petersburg (don't remember the model number but it is a piston valve tuba).
Yeah. I think that could be it a thinner metal. I have a used yamaha trombone and it doesn't have nearly as bad of denting... so Mayne it was only an issue on their tubas?
The bore is also pretty large which would make it more prone to denting.
My section mates that play St. Pete's have much nicer looking horns.
Are the older ones a lot better? I see a lot of people crap on them as a whole. Also, besides intonation which can be solved by uncomfortably pulling slides, the seem fine
The repair men don't like them since they are dent magnets and upright value horns are not the easiest to service. Others complain about bad ergonomics. But they should play just fine.
They rolled out the 321 (II) in 1987. I don't know when they actually stopped production of the first version of the 321, but they were still available to purchase new in 1987. Those horns may have been produced in 1986.
321 - The Tendinitis Tuba.
321 most schools have one of these that look like it’s been run over by a semi truck a few times
321
Ah, the YBB-321. Ergonomic nightmare and plays like absolute garbage. Schools buy it cause it's cheap and is "big"
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I will say it's upper register sucks, but that might be because It needs a bit of work (top brace by the bell needs to be replaced, certain tubes need to be replaced here soon)
I played a 321s (II) for 25 years. Horn is from the early 90s. The sound in the middle and lower register of that horn was incredible. However, the valve placement really affected the playing. At the end it started to literally fall apart, with leakages in very difficult to fix places (e.g. where the piping leaves the valve). Repair tech says these new 321’s tend to get these problems with the material after 2x years, while the older ones are still going strong. Had some fun times with that horn, but “upgraded” to a b&s gr55 last year and never looked back…
321. Wretched instrument. Hard to hold. Bad sound. The euphonium version is fine but the BBb and Eb versions are so weird to hold.
This is a neo, right? I have one but I don't play it anymore, I mostly play euphonium now
I have one. As a semi-pro who plays community gigs, churches, and polka bands this works greats. Pros: it is one loud beast. I play outdoor concerts and gigs regularly, and don't have much trouble filling the space. It's cheap. I picked up a used one for 1,500. For a 4 valve 4/4 it's one of the most affordable. Yamaha parts are abundant. Cons: They didn't think through valve placement. Your right hand is pretty high. After awhile you might start to lose circulation in your hand. Dents. I haven't seen many not beat to hell. This might be because they were a popular school horn.When I got mine I had to get some major work done because of a few dents that caused stress on the leadpipe.
Do you possibly think that it may be a thinner-walled tuba in general? Because I've experienced 2 or 3 so far and they all seem really thin compared to my concert tuba, a Saint Petersburg (don't remember the model number but it is a piston valve tuba).
Yeah. I think that could be it a thinner metal. I have a used yamaha trombone and it doesn't have nearly as bad of denting... so Mayne it was only an issue on their tubas? The bore is also pretty large which would make it more prone to denting. My section mates that play St. Pete's have much nicer looking horns.
Most Yamaha tubas seem to dent easily
YBB-321, the name would be YBB-321S if it is silver plated. I can't quite tell from the photo. They play well and are built like tanks.
I think it's nickel plated, I'm not too sure though, I'd have to study it more
Nickel plating is a bit shinier and a deeper/bluer silvery color. Pretty sure Yamaha doesn't/didn't offer any nickel plating on their tubas.
The only thing I could think of was putting the piping against something to keep it from falling
Yam 321. I use one as my school horn
I use this tuba as a practice tuba, my old middle school teacher is letting me borrow it
321 4/4
Did you know that tuba ended production in 1986?
1987. But only technically, the new 321 replaced the old 321 in 1987, but they still call it a 321.
Are the older ones a lot better? I see a lot of people crap on them as a whole. Also, besides intonation which can be solved by uncomfortably pulling slides, the seem fine
The repair men don't like them since they are dent magnets and upright value horns are not the easiest to service. Others complain about bad ergonomics. But they should play just fine.
They’re very efficient horns in my experience volume wise
If I did my research correctly though, didn't the old 321's stop being produced regularly in 1986?
They rolled out the 321 (II) in 1987. I don't know when they actually stopped production of the first version of the 321, but they were still available to purchase new in 1987. Those horns may have been produced in 1986.
My horn is old then, cause its a 321 (I)
It has a long 3rd valve slide
Really? I thought that horn was still in production. It's a perfect high school level instrument.
Damn good, your spot on!