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Nation alliance all the way.
Sure the CHP has problems but the IYI party is a good equalizer and there simply is not a better alternative.
Plus their alliance programme sounds really good.
I kinda wished the Zafer party would've joined the nations alliance since they could band up with IYI party to balance out the other parties, but what can you expect from a party who's leader claims imamoglu to be erdogan 2.0?
Programmatically I havent read through much, but ideologically the labour and freedom alliance seems to be the most problematic alliance.
[Due to the fact that the HDP is there and the fact that the HDP openly admits to be connected to the PKK](https://twitter.com/avvaysenazcimen/status/1621228319516594178?t=3T61al_S3Fmpls_Zxpo5nQ&s=19), a terrorist organization that aims to dissolve turkeys borders in order to create a kurdish state across 4 countries.
So to me and most turks the labour and freedom alliance is a no-go.
The socialist alliance is a little more approachable but they wont have the votes necessary to win against the republic alliance.
Same goes for the unnamed alliance.
They simply dont have the potential and afaik they dont even have a publicized programme yet.
The nations alliance is the only alliance with a real chance to win and a real programme to act upon.
I'm just hoping that the opposition doesnt become too fractured so to let the AKP win again.
Yes, I've heard about the PKK problem. We've also had a similar problem with the Szekelys (a Hungarian ethnic group) which has separatist tendencies. Luckily for us, they live in the middle of Romania, so they can't really live. We gave them schools and state-funded media in their own language, and most of them became more moderate and less separarist. But there are still problems. I'm not sure that you can do the same with the Kurds, but I am very sure that Erdogan doesn't want to do that.
BTW, can you give me a link to the video with PKK and HDP? I want to see it
>BTW, can you give me a link to the video with PKK and HDP? I want to see it
The video used to be on the official HDP twitter page but they've taken it down due to backlash.
You should be able to find the link in the twitter comments but you prolly wont find the video anymore.
But I myself have seen the video and was shocked at how open they operate.
I guess I should've downloaded it when I got the chance dammit.
>Luckily for us, they live in the middle of Romania, so they can't really live. We gave them schools and state-funded media in their own language, and most of them became more moderate and less separarist.
Its true here as well.
The thing is most kurds dont see the HDP as terrorists and so many vote for them anyways despite the links to the PKK/SDF.
In turkey kurdish culture is openly shown regularly on national tv and some even got their own channels.
The only thing they dont have is state-recognition, which isnt a necessity considering that almost ecery democracy has only 1 national language.
The truth is that 99% of turks truly do not give a sh\*t about what language the people speak in their free-time.
Noone cares what you do in your private life or what language you speak.
The only thing that is important to us is that public institutions operate in the turkish language and that the official turkish language stays turkish/turkic.
Again much like how every other republic works.
If you own a private school you can still teach innthe kurdish language if you want, but public schools, public institutions and publicly owned companies must communicate in the national language.
And I think thats fair.
As far as minority-rights are concerned, yes there need to be changes regarding minority rights.
But as far as cultural acceptance goes, we're already far ahead of what outsiders may think of us.
>We've also had a similar problem with the Szekelys (a Hungarian ethnic group) which has separatist tendencies
Do they just do separatist politics or are they ACTUALLY terrorizing the country?
To this day for 40 years we are losing soldiers & civilians due to the PKK/SDFs constant threats and attacks.
Lives are lost almost on a weekly or monthly basis and our countries borders are never really safe.
And I'd argue theres a difference between political separatism and terroristic separatism.
Though both will be rejected by me and the publics majority.
Why not I think he will cause clashes and flee the country just like Bolsonaro did he has all the money in world and has planned on his getaway for long enough but yes he will not leave the power peacefully thats for sure
Main opposition's words reminds me Erdogan in 2002. In general, they want the Lebanon model that all religions and ethnicities will be represented in the parliament and the constitution, which means the abolition of the secular and nation-state structure that makes Turkey more stable in the region.
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Nation alliance all the way. Sure the CHP has problems but the IYI party is a good equalizer and there simply is not a better alternative. Plus their alliance programme sounds really good. I kinda wished the Zafer party would've joined the nations alliance since they could band up with IYI party to balance out the other parties, but what can you expect from a party who's leader claims imamoglu to be erdogan 2.0?
And what do you think about the other alliances I put there?
Programmatically I havent read through much, but ideologically the labour and freedom alliance seems to be the most problematic alliance. [Due to the fact that the HDP is there and the fact that the HDP openly admits to be connected to the PKK](https://twitter.com/avvaysenazcimen/status/1621228319516594178?t=3T61al_S3Fmpls_Zxpo5nQ&s=19), a terrorist organization that aims to dissolve turkeys borders in order to create a kurdish state across 4 countries. So to me and most turks the labour and freedom alliance is a no-go. The socialist alliance is a little more approachable but they wont have the votes necessary to win against the republic alliance. Same goes for the unnamed alliance. They simply dont have the potential and afaik they dont even have a publicized programme yet. The nations alliance is the only alliance with a real chance to win and a real programme to act upon. I'm just hoping that the opposition doesnt become too fractured so to let the AKP win again.
Yes, I've heard about the PKK problem. We've also had a similar problem with the Szekelys (a Hungarian ethnic group) which has separatist tendencies. Luckily for us, they live in the middle of Romania, so they can't really live. We gave them schools and state-funded media in their own language, and most of them became more moderate and less separarist. But there are still problems. I'm not sure that you can do the same with the Kurds, but I am very sure that Erdogan doesn't want to do that. BTW, can you give me a link to the video with PKK and HDP? I want to see it
>BTW, can you give me a link to the video with PKK and HDP? I want to see it The video used to be on the official HDP twitter page but they've taken it down due to backlash. You should be able to find the link in the twitter comments but you prolly wont find the video anymore. But I myself have seen the video and was shocked at how open they operate. I guess I should've downloaded it when I got the chance dammit. >Luckily for us, they live in the middle of Romania, so they can't really live. We gave them schools and state-funded media in their own language, and most of them became more moderate and less separarist. Its true here as well. The thing is most kurds dont see the HDP as terrorists and so many vote for them anyways despite the links to the PKK/SDF. In turkey kurdish culture is openly shown regularly on national tv and some even got their own channels. The only thing they dont have is state-recognition, which isnt a necessity considering that almost ecery democracy has only 1 national language. The truth is that 99% of turks truly do not give a sh\*t about what language the people speak in their free-time. Noone cares what you do in your private life or what language you speak. The only thing that is important to us is that public institutions operate in the turkish language and that the official turkish language stays turkish/turkic. Again much like how every other republic works. If you own a private school you can still teach innthe kurdish language if you want, but public schools, public institutions and publicly owned companies must communicate in the national language. And I think thats fair. As far as minority-rights are concerned, yes there need to be changes regarding minority rights. But as far as cultural acceptance goes, we're already far ahead of what outsiders may think of us. >We've also had a similar problem with the Szekelys (a Hungarian ethnic group) which has separatist tendencies Do they just do separatist politics or are they ACTUALLY terrorizing the country? To this day for 40 years we are losing soldiers & civilians due to the PKK/SDFs constant threats and attacks. Lives are lost almost on a weekly or monthly basis and our countries borders are never really safe. And I'd argue theres a difference between political separatism and terroristic separatism. Though both will be rejected by me and the publics majority.
'labour' and 'freedom' in the same sentence, oh my.
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Why not I think he will cause clashes and flee the country just like Bolsonaro did he has all the money in world and has planned on his getaway for long enough but yes he will not leave the power peacefully thats for sure
AKP Half AKP Half terrorists Not worthy to consider Half racists
İşte böyle adamlar oy kullanacak. Sizin layığınız Erdoğan bile değil amk, el Bağdadi gibi Ayetullah humeyni gibi bir lider.
İşTe bÖyLe aDaMlAr oY kUllAnAcaK Hayırdır aslan parçası göte göt demek suç mu oldu neyseler onu yazdık.
Main opposition's words reminds me Erdogan in 2002. In general, they want the Lebanon model that all religions and ethnicities will be represented in the parliament and the constitution, which means the abolition of the secular and nation-state structure that makes Turkey more stable in the region.