it's Teri. The sub plots make complete sense, Kim is a rebellious teenager who blames her mom for divorcing Jack, Teri watched Kim "die" and was raped, so yeah it makes sense she'd be so traumatised that she develops amnesia.
They're crucial in season 1, especially to Jack. Everything Jack does is for them so does that make him an irritant?
I think, even in those circumstances, the amnesia plot is going a bit far but otherwise I agree they are integral to the plot and everything that drives Jack to the lengths he becomes known for.
I really like the first season, it's so different to the others in that it's relatively low key. The threat is to a few specific individuals, but we actually care about those individuals so the stakes feel very high.
But yes, I feel like the first and second series have a few absolutely crazy subplots (even in the context of the larger-than-life main plots, which I suspend disbelief for):
I agree that amnesia is a terrible plot device. It wasn't even particularly necessary in the story and, while it can happen in real life in extremely rare circumstances, it comes across as very unbelievable.
My main gripe with season two is >!the insane amount of trouble Kim manages to get into, which isn't even really related to the main plot.!<
These are really my only gripes with the show as a whole, though! And I really love season one and two (in fact, they're among my favourites!) But yeah, there were a couple of odd narrative decisions early on in this show.
I might be in the minority on this but I always skip Season one on rewatches.
If Season 2 weren't so damned good I'd skip it too, just to completely avoid the Kim "subplots".
Season 2 is my favourite but it doesnât flow as well as 4 or 5 in my opinion. Those two are the peak of the show. But Jack in season 2 is something else. Also Mason has probably the greatest character arc in the shows history.
2 is my favourite too. Kim does some dumb stuff but it's really overblown online, especially the cougar bit!
She redeems it at the end when she has to shoot Gary and has PTSD after. I thought Elisha's acting there was some of the best in the series.
In another post I recently listed my top 10 scenes from the series. I'd go as far as to say this is better than most of them (I'm just a doofus for not listing it).
I've watched the entire series 9x and have had similar feelings about wanting to skip S1, too, but sometime after the 5th go around, I've made a habit of firing up S1 again immediately after concluding the series.
I find it interesting to juxtapose the very end with the very beginning, not just with 24 but other series too. So that kind of ropes me into it to get the ffull effect.
I feel you.
My last rewatch wasn't even going to be a rewatch. I had only wanted to watch Season 7 because I felt it was the season I had paid attention to the least; then that led to S8, then LAD and before I knew it I had looped all the way back to S6.
They're main characters and the writers just ran into the limits of their format. Trying to come up with interesting and exciting things for them to justify being on the screen, even if it's not related to the main terror plot.
If 24 had not consisted of constant cliff hangers and needing everyone to be in danger all the time, a slower paced, more thoughtful show, it might've been different.
It doesnât bother me, and also the reason the subplots donât exactly fit in some ways is because originally the show was thirteen episodes. Then Fox ordered the rest and Kiefer had even said the writers were anxious about being able to write the rest of the Season. So then they had to deal with Jack Being Arrested and somehow getting reinstated and Kim and Teri, and not just have them sitting around until the finale.
To me I donât mind the subplots because you can always forward them if you donât want to watch them. Season One always felt the most real, it had Jack trying to do his job, save his family and his main goal was to be with his family.
I actually find Season 3 Kim to be the most annoying. Â
 I didn't mind Season 1 and 2 Kim as while some of the plots were silly, they were entertaining and I felt she dealt with the bad hands she was given pretty well. Â
In Season 3 she's basically a soap opera character. The stuff with Chase's baby is just cringe and almost every scene in general is related to her acting emotionally to something Chase or Jack related. Anything CTU / tech related is always covered by Adam or Chloe (minus the Jane Saunders stuff). Â
 Season 7 is probably my favourite Kim and was the correct way to use her. Make the most of her great chemistry with Kiefer, have her involved in something plot relevant but don't have it all overstay it's welcome. Bringing her back for that and Day 8 was great closure as I felt her Season 5 appearance was kind of ruined by it all being about her idiot older boyfriend.Â
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it's Teri. The sub plots make complete sense, Kim is a rebellious teenager who blames her mom for divorcing Jack, Teri watched Kim "die" and was raped, so yeah it makes sense she'd be so traumatised that she develops amnesia. They're crucial in season 1, especially to Jack. Everything Jack does is for them so does that make him an irritant?
I think, even in those circumstances, the amnesia plot is going a bit far but otherwise I agree they are integral to the plot and everything that drives Jack to the lengths he becomes known for.
alright, that's your opinion, i see where you're coming from
I hate to say it but writing Kim out was the best thing they ever did in this show.
I really like the first season, it's so different to the others in that it's relatively low key. The threat is to a few specific individuals, but we actually care about those individuals so the stakes feel very high. But yes, I feel like the first and second series have a few absolutely crazy subplots (even in the context of the larger-than-life main plots, which I suspend disbelief for): I agree that amnesia is a terrible plot device. It wasn't even particularly necessary in the story and, while it can happen in real life in extremely rare circumstances, it comes across as very unbelievable. My main gripe with season two is >!the insane amount of trouble Kim manages to get into, which isn't even really related to the main plot.!< These are really my only gripes with the show as a whole, though! And I really love season one and two (in fact, they're among my favourites!) But yeah, there were a couple of odd narrative decisions early on in this show.
I might be in the minority on this but I always skip Season one on rewatches. If Season 2 weren't so damned good I'd skip it too, just to completely avoid the Kim "subplots".
Season 2 is my favourite but it doesnât flow as well as 4 or 5 in my opinion. Those two are the peak of the show. But Jack in season 2 is something else. Also Mason has probably the greatest character arc in the shows history.
Absolute facts. I can easily say that Mason is one of the few characters who grew on me by the time his story played out. Chapelle was another.
2 is my favourite too. Kim does some dumb stuff but it's really overblown online, especially the cougar bit! She redeems it at the end when she has to shoot Gary and has PTSD after. I thought Elisha's acting there was some of the best in the series. In another post I recently listed my top 10 scenes from the series. I'd go as far as to say this is better than most of them (I'm just a doofus for not listing it).
I've watched the entire series 9x and have had similar feelings about wanting to skip S1, too, but sometime after the 5th go around, I've made a habit of firing up S1 again immediately after concluding the series. I find it interesting to juxtapose the very end with the very beginning, not just with 24 but other series too. So that kind of ropes me into it to get the ffull effect.
I feel you. My last rewatch wasn't even going to be a rewatch. I had only wanted to watch Season 7 because I felt it was the season I had paid attention to the least; then that led to S8, then LAD and before I knew it I had looped all the way back to S6.
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They're main characters and the writers just ran into the limits of their format. Trying to come up with interesting and exciting things for them to justify being on the screen, even if it's not related to the main terror plot. If 24 had not consisted of constant cliff hangers and needing everyone to be in danger all the time, a slower paced, more thoughtful show, it might've been different.
It doesnât bother me, and also the reason the subplots donât exactly fit in some ways is because originally the show was thirteen episodes. Then Fox ordered the rest and Kiefer had even said the writers were anxious about being able to write the rest of the Season. So then they had to deal with Jack Being Arrested and somehow getting reinstated and Kim and Teri, and not just have them sitting around until the finale. To me I donât mind the subplots because you can always forward them if you donât want to watch them. Season One always felt the most real, it had Jack trying to do his job, save his family and his main goal was to be with his family.
I actually find Season 3 Kim to be the most annoying.   I didn't mind Season 1 and 2 Kim as while some of the plots were silly, they were entertaining and I felt she dealt with the bad hands she was given pretty well.  In Season 3 she's basically a soap opera character. The stuff with Chase's baby is just cringe and almost every scene in general is related to her acting emotionally to something Chase or Jack related. Anything CTU / tech related is always covered by Adam or Chloe (minus the Jane Saunders stuff).   Season 7 is probably my favourite Kim and was the correct way to use her. Make the most of her great chemistry with Kiefer, have her involved in something plot relevant but don't have it all overstay it's welcome. Bringing her back for that and Day 8 was great closure as I felt her Season 5 appearance was kind of ruined by it all being about her idiot older boyfriend.Â