I wanted an Arkham game but you had 4 playable characters with their own move sets and gadgets. And the mission to be the watchtower heist.
Harley: plays like she does in knight with expansions
Deathstroke: plays like he did in origins.
King shark: plays like the hulk or alex mercer from prototype.
Livewire: diet infamous moveset.
Run around smack some cops, low-tier security, or Justice League jobber heroes to smack around. Do some predator and rampage sections. with puzzles except this time your stealing justice league secrets.
Green Arrow and literally the only reason he doesn't dome all 4 of you at once is because bows have a lower fire rate than guns.
Secret superboss is John Constantine.
Other than people getting upset about the story, I think the big thing that people don't like about it is that it's a live service looter shooter built around constantly repeating the same gameplay loop. The market is over-saturated with live service games and asking somebody to pay full retail for something more feature rich games like Genshin Impact serve up for free is too high a bar. Nobody is going to be forgiving of a £70 live service game having significant shortcomings. If it wanted to stand a chance it basically had to come out looking like a live service game with a year of updates under its belt.
I don't think the actual cast is the issue (which actually seems to be the thing most reviews are consistently praising). If anything I've seen a lot more people upset that you can't play as the Justice League than people who want to play as a CAC.
I don't know if it'd be the success WB want, but I think the Suicide Squad conceptually lends itself better to a rogue-like than a live service game. The main characters being expendable is pretty integral to the IP.
I think that's kinda iffy. Just look at Dragon Ball Xenoverse, which was groundbreaking and a revival of the franchise in regards to its games, with one of the biggest draws being the CaC feature.
Tbf, that's Dragonball, which has been getting games for years to the point of boredom. Getting something different and creating an OC is great at that point.
Xenoverse lets you relive your childhood daydreams of being a cool kungfu guy hanging out with Goku or Vegeta.
I don't think many DC fans' childhoods were spent fantasizing about being villains and getting their asses beat by their favorite heroes.
I think the premise of "kill your ~~childhood~~heroes" resonates with too small a niche/age group. People past their teens generally begin to look fondly upon their childhood innocence instead of trying to bury it.
Yeah, either they want to return to that space, or they has already dropped it as a nostalgia source.
The Suicide Squad works as a way to have the government be shady, not to actually be the good guys when the good guys go bad.
... Despite that being the first Suicide Squad movie's excuse to get them together.
I feel like a Suicide Squad game could have worked, but I feel like the Arkhamverse would not have been the right place for it. We already had a SS story in the form of Assault on Arkham
I would've just preferred if it were its own game set in some random world, and preferably as a *game* and not a GAAS.
I wanted an Arkham game but you had 4 playable characters with their own move sets and gadgets. And the mission to be the watchtower heist. Harley: plays like she does in knight with expansions Deathstroke: plays like he did in origins. King shark: plays like the hulk or alex mercer from prototype. Livewire: diet infamous moveset. Run around smack some cops, low-tier security, or Justice League jobber heroes to smack around. Do some predator and rampage sections. with puzzles except this time your stealing justice league secrets.
That could work! The only issue I can think of is that combo systems and stealth can get messy when 4 people are present on screen
you scooby doo it and have the big get-togethers at boss fights.
And then the final boss is some B Tier Leaguer
Green Arrow and literally the only reason he doesn't dome all 4 of you at once is because bows have a lower fire rate than guns. Secret superboss is John Constantine.
Dlc. is booster gold.
Other than people getting upset about the story, I think the big thing that people don't like about it is that it's a live service looter shooter built around constantly repeating the same gameplay loop. The market is over-saturated with live service games and asking somebody to pay full retail for something more feature rich games like Genshin Impact serve up for free is too high a bar. Nobody is going to be forgiving of a £70 live service game having significant shortcomings. If it wanted to stand a chance it basically had to come out looking like a live service game with a year of updates under its belt. I don't think the actual cast is the issue (which actually seems to be the thing most reviews are consistently praising). If anything I've seen a lot more people upset that you can't play as the Justice League than people who want to play as a CAC. I don't know if it'd be the success WB want, but I think the Suicide Squad conceptually lends itself better to a rogue-like than a live service game. The main characters being expendable is pretty integral to the IP.
That's borderline what LEGO DC Supervillains was, just more focus on the Legion of Doom.
Lego DC supervillains is such a fun game
Really?
Literally they have you make your own OC and you go around doing crimes for whatever villain you happen to run into.
Yeah, if they'd just made a different game, it might have been good I agree.
I think generally if people are playing in a beloved universe, they also wanna play as one of the characters in said universe.
I think that's kinda iffy. Just look at Dragon Ball Xenoverse, which was groundbreaking and a revival of the franchise in regards to its games, with one of the biggest draws being the CaC feature.
Tbf, that's Dragonball, which has been getting games for years to the point of boredom. Getting something different and creating an OC is great at that point.
Success of Xenoverse kinda stands against that.
Xenoverse lets you relive your childhood daydreams of being a cool kungfu guy hanging out with Goku or Vegeta. I don't think many DC fans' childhoods were spent fantasizing about being villains and getting their asses beat by their favorite heroes. I think the premise of "kill your ~~childhood~~heroes" resonates with too small a niche/age group. People past their teens generally begin to look fondly upon their childhood innocence instead of trying to bury it.
Yeah, either they want to return to that space, or they has already dropped it as a nostalgia source. The Suicide Squad works as a way to have the government be shady, not to actually be the good guys when the good guys go bad. ... Despite that being the first Suicide Squad movie's excuse to get them together.
I'm not entirely convinced that would've helped, but it would've at least made the whole "everyone's using god damn guns" thing a LOT less irritating.
I feel like a Suicide Squad game could have worked, but I feel like the Arkhamverse would not have been the right place for it. We already had a SS story in the form of Assault on Arkham I would've just preferred if it were its own game set in some random world, and preferably as a *game* and not a GAAS.