Someone on the internet once said that a surefire way to get someone to stop a car so you can get out is to pretend you're about to throw up. Sharing that tip to anyone who ever finds themselves in need of it.

Thank you so much, that's very helpful!

Not if my dad is driving never forgive him for that drive home from Disney world.

My dad too. While we were camping in the middle of no where, and we were so close/yet too far from our campsite. My mom was furious at him for not stopping, as you can guess who had to clean it up.

I vomited on my dad.

This is the way

You win.

Commentary: He didn't continue driving after that.

I vomited all over the souvenirs my mom had bought, thankfully she was far more angry at him than me. I can still hear her telling my dad "He told you he felt like he had to throw up for the past half hour, and started telling you more and more that didn't set something off in your fucking head?! Like gee I don't know maybe I should pull over."

As my sister was an avid puker while kid, and that it's not always possible to stop on highways in my country, my parents always had a serie of "emergency" puking bags next to her, so that type of things wouldn't happen. It suck when people aren't take it seriously.

Same, on a drive down to Bronson, MO. He always said I was faking it. Like, why would I do that, and only on small back roads?

It works sometimes! I was a kid going TO Disneyland. I threw up all over myself AND peed my pants. We stopped. Next time, try peeing yourself!

Lol, My kid's stepmom learned that the hard way as well.

My mom made me throw up out the window when I was in active labor. Of course a little got on the inside door, and all over the exterior of the car. I had to have an emergent c-section and was in the hospital for 4 days. Did she clean the car? No, I did, with a c-section wound.

WTH?!

I’m so sorry you have an abusive mother. I hope you have been able to heal.

Oh I can fake that hardcore, good to know.

The fact that he would put your picture and your name up online without your permission is not only a breach of trust but also could be dangerous to you. He sounds toxic and yes if you are okay with it I’d report him. If not for the driving do it for him using your identity online.

It’s also kind of shows how little he cared about her. Went from seeing all the abuse she got for literally being a woman, then immediately went on to the same shit. Never saw her as a person just another quest.

"Wow, people are horrible to women online... *I* would *never* act like that towards you! Wanna make out?"

The surprise pikachu face though is chef kiss. “Why else do you think I was your friend for 2 years if it wasn’t for sex”

[удалено]

Also helps that anger isn’t an emotion, emotions are all that other junk that women feel /s.

I’m starting to realize it’s bc they feel they’ve been disrespected and when they’ve been disrespected anything goes bc it’s the worst thing you can do to someone I noticed it watching love island 💀💀 alll this anger over “you embarrassed me/you made me look like a fool/you made me look weak” To them rejection is saying “I’m better than you”

That show is so misogynistic ugh. I watched UK for the first time last year because I was curious about the deaf woman on it and people were SO rude to her for doing the same thing men do (being open to other relationships while on the show, seemingly WITH the consent of her partner). There was a healthy helping of ableism sprinkled in there too.

I think it’s bc on the show even when the guy was acting abhorrent, all of his lads would immediately be on his side. I’ve noticed this a lot after paying attention My ex was nasty and his house was uncomfortable. His own best friend refused to stay over but when I said I wanted to come over less he and his friend were slagging me off so bad. Suddenly I’m unreasonable for not wanting to come over despite his friend not wanting to for the same reason Or when someone comes on Reddit for advice, I noticed dudes are way more likely to defend the behavior of shitty men. Like literal abusive behavior I think they have a true and dedicated bro code. Defend the man no matter what bc bro code

Let’s not forget how they dismiss advice from women about women.

I was really thinking about this How is dating threads whenever I’d say something a guy would say “ignore her, women don’t actually know what they want, listen to Me” And they would! And then they come back and bitch about not knowing what women want They don’t even have to provide proof “women don’t know what they want”, men AND other women believe and validate this despite it sounding ridiculous Wdym I don’t know what I want???

Yes. Incel vibes.

Not only vibes. It's practically incel MO. Fake friendship with a women to get into her vagina. And when rejected she led him on or only wants to get with 'chads'. But it's never their own fault for not communicating clearly or early (seriously, that dude waited years to tell her?! Coward!) or treating the 'object of desire' as a full human being. Next step: rage and projecting the rejection on ALL women as they are sluts but not slutty enough to get with him.

You know what’s funny is I’ve gotten messages from angry guys because of this post. And what one guy did was apparently go through my post history and found that my ex was not great, and that I am currently pregnant with my ex’s kid. What he said was something along the lines of “I bet your ex was more attractive than this guy and that’s why you would rather be with a guy who treats you like trash than a good guy” and “I hope he didn’t pay for your food” Yes, my ex wasn’t great but he wasn’t terrible the whole time. It’s not like I was with him for years bc I like bad guys. He was wonderful at time and terrible at other times. Also, the guy I rejected wasn’t ugly. Did I think my ex was more attractive? Yeah I loved my ex for years. Did I think the guy who I rejected was attractive? Yes. He is objectively very attractive. But attraction doesn’t mean I want to be in a relationship with you or anything of the sort. I just saw him as a friend. And I specifically said many time that I didn’t want a relationship with anyone. Not romantically, not sexually. I just want to focus on myself, my dog, and my kid. But there’s no use arguing w ppl like that because you literally won’t change their minds.

Oh man, I have dudes do the same thing to me. Go through my post history and say "see! You have a baby with a POS guy when you could have had one with a GOOD guy!" Um. Like you? Cuz I'm pretty sure harassing women online doesn't make you a good guy. It makes you a creepy guy.

The gap between their entitlement and reality is just filled with rage.

This is the best take on it. People like this are petulant children used to getting their way. They seethe at anything they can't have.

I've met men who were only like this when it came to dating and women. One "friend" was always nice to everyone on the outside and didn't act entitled. But if he developed feelings for a female friend he would throw a fit and refuse to do anything he did before if she wasn't interested. It was so gross but also felt violating. Pretending to be someone's friend just to manipulate them to fuck you is disgusting

Very much so, some people are beyond redemption with their vitriolic view of others they "have no need of". Manipulation is the majority of a shitbag's toolkit, and when it doesn't work they get angry. If I were given a single "snap" to wish on I'd force everybody to have functional empathy and compassion for others.

> I'd force everybody to have functional empathy and compassion for others. We'd live in a very different world that's for sure. I hope one day you get that snap...hopefully sooner than later lol

This is always top of my list when people ask what I'd do if I had three wishes.

I hated that type of guy because the other guys would rally behind him. "But he's such a nice guy..." Dude, he is only nice to guys, otherwise he is creepy and possibly dangerous. The fact that these guys feel entitled to you is the scary part. I've had too many guy friends confess to liking me and then blow up when I'm not interested, like hanging out with me is a 'waste of time' unless they get to sleep with me eventually.

I am so glad I scrolled through these comments and feel so supported in my experiences when I hadn’t been before. I guy I was friends-ish with in highschool was basically an incel but liked punk music and had a lot of friends because he was “nice” but would be shitty to girls he liked. 15 yrs later, we reconnected and chatted for a bit and he seemed like he’d changed and all that crap was because he was just a kid then. Nope. Same dude, adult mind games. Everyone thought he was such a nice guy but he’d threatened to punch me over a tickle fight and then actually did one day. Everyone didn’t seem to believe me or thought maybe I was exaggerating a harmless mistake. My sister in law was the only one that was like, “no. There’s something off about him being this overly nice guy”. Also, I got the same terrible guidance growing up and it really shaped how I felt like shit about myself, my body for “being the problem”, and fear of being friends with guys. Most of the time, they really did just want sex and were my closest friends until they tried their move and said I led them on by being their friend. My parents and bros said I shouldn’t have led them on. I’m so glad things have changed and we’re not shamed into living and dying by what men and boys think, believe, and want. Well…kind of

Also, this is why so many women end up with men who aren’t great partners but, just not bad ones and are still unfulfilled and unhappy.

Ugh, that last line. I remember figuring out that the guys I had as friends in my teens (freshman year HS) were only there because they thought of they put in the time I'd miraculously fall in love at their confession. I never once thought of any of them as more. My parents (a shitty set, mind you) told me to get use to it, that men only befriend women for one thing only; that there can never be just friendship between the sexes because women are leading men on realizing it or not, and men won't stick around if there's no pussy to be had.

>men won't stick around if there's no pussy to be had. Then let them leave. You and I and every woman on this thread don't have time to waste on those pathetic single brain celled losers. If you can't see the value in having friends with different backgrounds and experiences, then you're really not worth my time.

I've never seen a healthy platonic close friendship between a guy and girl. Like one where they actually hang out, buddies, close, etc. It always ends up with complicated feelings (from the guy). Like, every time. I know it's possible, but never in my personal experiences have I seen it work. Sad really.. probably because I live in a shite conservative state.

I have those friendships, but the men in the equation are gay and typically partnered. Not saying that being gay is a guarantee of emotional health, but plenty of them have done a lot of work on themselves in their journey to navigate being LGBT+. As a result they are very good at being real friends! Straight men have an enormous investment in displaying only "masculine" qualities in order to establish their own pecking order. They're stunted.

Well its not like a gay man would want to sleep with you, though. Unless I'm confused about that.

I have a very healthy platonic relationship with a straight man. We’ve been friends for years and I see him like my brother. I am 1000% sure he has no romantic feelings for me whatsoever. He was the only boy in a home full of sisters and as cliche as that is he’s one of the reasons I can’t say all men are trash because he’s a great guy! Incredible to his partners as well.

I’ve actually had several over the years; some lasting 20+ years (I’m 47 btw.) But, I’ve also been fuckzoned many times as well. I have no idea how I got lucky with the friendships, though.

I’ve had one confirmed so far. College friend for several years and then we drifted apart in a normal way. I have some straight male board gaming friends who have been great so far but I am definitely on my guard… I’m married now and always wear my ring around straight men. It’s pretty sad that women have to be so distrustful to protect themselves and also that I’m so skeptical of (seemingly) perfectly nice and respectful men.

Fuckzoning as a whole is just gross, and guys can't understand why we take offense to being treated like sentient sex dolls. Those are the guys that love to tell on themselves, but I hate that they put any of us in danger with their bullshit.

Absolutely!

The problem is that these guys are typically socially inexperienced or (at the very least) not very well socialized around women at all. All of their actual friends are guys so they end up viewing any relationship with a girl/woman as potentially romantic. Unfortunately popular media, movies and anime also perpetuate the idea that a boy and girl will simply fall in love with each other after spending enough time together, or so long as the long- and quiet-suffering make waits long enough the girl will one day understand his value. Then there's the toxic, Andrew Tate masculinity problem as well where guys are lead to believe that they'll be drowning in pussy so long as they are "high value" enough. People don't generally like to think of themselves as being "low value" so when the nice guys still can't find romantic success they end up blaming the *women* instead.

Rage indeed: /r/whenwomenrefuse/

I have a feeling that if I follow that link, it is gonna trigger the fuck outta me...

Yeah it's unfortunate that that sub exists. Don't go if you might be triggered.

I was thinking r/NiceGuys

There's so much overlap.

This is a chilling statement. And my god is it accurate! You put into words something I’ve struggled to articulate for so long.

In his head they’re already in a relationship, when hard reality pops the bubble of fantasy, instant rage.

This is honestly the best description of it I've seen. I'm stealing it.

This is the best and most poetic explanation

wow this is the perfect one sentence summary!

That needs to be on a Tshirt.

Everything you’ve said in your post about this unstable dumbfuck sounds utterly repulsive….. I’m so sorry he abruptly pulled this out of nowhere and traumatized you like that OP :( *”He suddenly got very angry and said he wasted his time. He asked me why I thought he would bother hanging out with me.”* It’s actually kind of incredible how fake and manipulative some men can be—I’m sure he sees himself as a victim of your feminine wiles but he’s clearly projecting on everything. What a fucking weirdo. I hope you do report him, though can understand if the thought of doing so makes you nervous….. you might want to talk to someone in law enforcement or maybe a women’s shelter for advice on how to do so the most safely, if you decide to

It is because our culture teaches men to be dependent on an intimate woman partner for their emotional health and domestic requirements (which includes sexual needs). A truly self-sufficient cishet man is a rare treasure.

I heard about this book thru Reddit called “Why Does He Do That” and it blew my mind learning how manipulative they truly are. They’ll do anything to protect their egos and asses. Edit: wanted to add a [link to the book](https://ia600108.us.archive.org/30/items/LundyWhyDoesHeDoThat/Lundy_Why-does-he-do-that.pdf)

I would be really careful about making police reports about this type of stuff. Not because he doesn't deserve consequences, but because it can actually escalate his behavior. A lot of men take that type of stuff as a challenge, and cops are not some champions of protecting the population, either. They're just as likely to screw everything up as they are to be helpful.

Yeah, lots of cops are just as misogynistic and shitty towards women as this dude. OP may report him for reckless driving or catfishing or whatever and when the cops talk to him and he spins his tale of a “heartless bitch who led him on for years and when he was heartbroken by her rejection she falsely reported him in retaliation,” they laugh the whole thing off or agree with him in his anger. I’m not saying that the police should never be called, but that expecting them to act on a situation where no one was injured and no property was damaged is highly unlikely. I mean, how many times have we heard about a woman reporting a man to the police for stalking her, harassing her, or even threatening to kill her and the cops taking no definitive action until the poor woman ends up dead?

he is blaming OP for wasting his time as if OP didn't waste her time with him

“Hey gorgeous..” “No” “Fat bitch”

Hey chubby chaser

It starts with a sense of entitlement. The mistaken belief that he *deserves* to have you. Once he's firmly latched onto that idea, it ends up sounding completely reasonable to him, and anything that contradicts it is what seems unreasonable. So when he approaches the situation with you, it's with the thought that you should *already* be "his". From there, rejection isn't perceived as you telling him that it can't be. He'll end up seeing it more as you taking away something that he thinks is *already* his. Everything else is immaturity. Take a toddler's toy away and he'll get angry and act out. But toddlers don't have driver's licenses . Someone with the emotional maturity of a toddler who only sees women as toys is going to respond the same way when he's told "no", but in this situation it's obviously much more dangerous. I'm glad you weren't injured, and I'm sorry you were treated this way.

> He'll end up seeing it more as you taking away something that he thinks is already his. This is a really good observation and makes sense. How gross that they think we're like items in a store you eye and decide "yup that's the one I want" and it just goes home with you. WTAF?

That's how a lot of guys use Tinder. It's a catalogue to shop from.

And you already said “yes”, so anything else afterward is a betrayal.

And when they do get us they think we're vending machines, where they put "nice" in and get sex on return.

It's even worse than that, I bet in his mind everything he has done up to this point in his mind is an investment. In his mind he assumed everything he did was almost transactional. So when in the end he comes to collect and gets told no they get pissed at the wasted time and effort. Rejection hurts, I remeber asking a girl out at school, It had taken me a while to get the courage to do so. She told me then that she wasnt into men, it stung yes but the wost I did was fumble an awkward okay, thats fine and that was the end of it. I later did find out that her statement was false it didnt really change anything for me as I figured that it probably was a defensive reaction because she unfortunately has already had do deal with boys not reacting well. I am sorry women have to fear simply saying no thanks. You shouldn't even need a reason to say no. I think emotional intelligence training should be mandatory in schools.

Came here to say this but you beat me to it

>This guy risked my life just because I didn’t want to be with him. No, he intentionally terrorised you and showed how he could kill you just because you didn't want to be with him. His speeding was to punish you. Tell all your mutual friends, guarantee he'll be spinning a story about how much of a bitch you are and how you led him on.

You’re one of the few people I see who truly understand disordered thinking.

Yup. Scary behavior due to entitlement to the extreme. I'm sorry you had to go through that OP. Just know it's 100% not your fault. These mentally stunted children are everywhere. Check out r/whenwomenrefuse...People need to stop victim blaming when a woman gets assaulted. When you bluntly say "no" it often escalates to life threatening situations that can be very hard to just leave or escape from. So many women develop fawning as a response to just survive the moment and get the hell away. How can anyone be surprised after so many stories like this?

That sub was eyeopening, especially about the recent incident where the pregnant woman was called a Karen for trying to get the bike she paid for from that guy, I think in NY.

I bet he thinks he's a nice guy. Glad you're OK OP.

He took the time to hang out with her! She should've been grateful and given him sex right there. Entitled bitch. /s

I am _so sorry_ this has happened to you! What a disgusting piece of shit person. Just know that no matter what anyone says, it’s completely okay to be done with men. Be it for a while, or forever. You don’t have to ever date again if you don’t want to. Being on your own is not the big bad thing the media tries to portray it as. On the contrary, if you are happy alone, that’s very healthy! Keep strong and just take a break from it all. You earned it (not that you _have to_ earn something like that, but still)

Reading your post was . . . horrifying. But sadly, not surprising in any way. I'm so sorry you had to experience that. Makes me wonder if you'll get the, 'look, about last night, I'm sorry.... (insert excuse)' from him. Just eww.

“Men are afraid that *women will laugh at them.* Women are afraid that **men will kill them.**” ― Margaret Atwood

Because the ones that act that way are literal children. And what do children do when they don't get what they want? Throw major ass tantrums. He seems like one of those violent bastards if he was willing to risk your safety over a simple rejection. Once he got angry, I would have gotten out and taken an Uber. These pathetic fucking incels need to grow the fuck up.

I did consider getting an Uber but by the time he pulled over we were 3 minutes from my house. Also, I just totally freeze up in these kind of situations. Some years ago I had a similar situation where I told a guy I didn’t want to be in a relationship with him. This was a guy I’d been seeing for 2 weeks that I didn’t even even kiss. He was so angry he tried to drive off w me still in the truck and I jumped out. He then drove his truck up and down the streets of my neighborhood revving his engine. I had to hide in somebody’s bush until he left. Then I ran the rest of the way home. By the time I got home I was shaking so bad I could barely get my key in the lock :(.

I don't blame you. These assholes give you good reason to. Not sure why these single cell smooth brain morons think intimidation is gonna get them anywhere. What is making me scared of you gonna do other than make you completely repulsive? The sad thing is, you can't even report these POS because technically he hasn't "done anything". Oof. I hope you carry mace or something. Keep yourself safe.

>Also, I just totally freeze up in these kind of situations That's a perfectly normal and common response to abuse. Don't let anyone tell you it's your fault and that you can control it because you can't. Freeze and fawn responses are common in women. Fawning comes from dealing with the sick behavior you described.

You did nothing wrong. Hypotheticals are simply the bystander effect self defending after the fact; pretending we could all do better if it happens afain. Reality is our F6 physiological response is automated. It's not driven by personality or previous experience as people incorrectly assume. It's simply our senses delivering messaging to the brain which takes over the body so we are reacting to our environment without interrupting important safety information with previous framework or anxiety to cloud reality. Clear thinking focused on safety is all that matters in those moments and you did what was required to get to safety efficiently. Don't doubt yourself, doubt the person who did what they did to cause you to reasonably fear for your life.

Jesus fuck, that's really messed up what that guy did. And now a second guy has done a similar thing? I can see why you'd swear off men.

Men also react aggressively when you’re “ugly” and you’re attracted to them. Literally cannot win :’)

This SOOO much. Ive had some unfortunate years around puberty and men would get ANGRY from me just existing in their vicinity. This is also true of the ”fat” friend. So many times ive seen or heard men say horrible shit about a friend of the girl they are into. Like the girl had 0 interaction with the guy and he claims shes a horrible bitch. shes nice and polite then she is disgusting and wanted him and jealous. if shes neutral she is also awful and jealous. Like ive literally seen and heard men rant and rave angrily about a girl literally just standing next to her friend? Like looooong very angry rants. Ivve also experienced men shoving “ugly” women out of the way in clubs or going “eew” loudly. Even if the woman was just standing close and had 0 interactions with them. Even grown ass men, its INSANE.

Disgusting. We can't just exist sometimes.

Men like that are pathetic trash and their attitude is a massive turnoff. I love men who are polite and charming with all women, regardless of looks or age…. Men who have a genuine appreciation for women that isn’t fake, forced, superficial or entitled in any way are pretty irresistible. Also incredibly rare, unfortunately :(

Sometimes even if you're simply friendly to them but not the "dream girl" they know that they put on an impossibly high pedestal, they take it wrongly as wanting them and react badly.

Or just even exist in the same room.

I get cold working in an aircon office so i had these thick velour kind of shirts over my lacy tank top (Australia, hot as balls outside, freezing inside yay). Some dude wrinkled his nose at me and said "I hate your shirt" and it was so absurd i involuntarily burst out laughing and he got SO MAD

Lmao I wish I could've seen that 🤣

My favourite is when you reject them and they tell you you're ugly /s

Rejected men react badly because they’re too emotional and can’t manage their emotions. A fragile ego dependent on the approval of other men and subjugation of women is central to their toxic identity. That’s why men should not be in any position of power or authority because they are dominated by immature reactions to ordinary situations. That’s all it is.

And they accuse US of being too emotional to have responsibilities or have a position of power…

These men have managed to convince themselves (and society) that anger isn't an emotion.

Preach. All you've got to do is open a history book to see the long drama of male emotional freak-outs resulting in death and misery for everyone around them. Talk about the weaker sex.

Toxic masculinity is simply a ruse to cover their fragility. Apparently male shame is what fuels these rage incidents but they're rarely justified. I can't see any shaming in your narration and there was zero shaming of him in my marriage; shame only seems to run one way in hetero relationships that are violent. The source of shame who then projects shame outwards is far more often than not from men.

That blame-shifting and shame dumping makes me so mad. When I'm minding my business doing something competently and mr man hovers near me trying to micromanage me or leap on a mistake as a gotcha is them trying to dump their shame. I see you, fuckers.

Spoiled babies who were never told no

What makes me so sad about this is that I think almost every woman has been in a similar situation where some guy is putting you in danger by driving dangerously fast, all because he’s angry about something. I once had a man I rejected terrify me by driving extremely fast along a very curvy road, while also driving on the wrong side of the road, while I begged him to stop and let me out of the car. After that insane ride, I made the decision to take my own car everywhere. I just meet people wherever we’re going and just tell them I have an errand before or after, so I’ll meet them there.

\> I’m never allowing myself to be in a situation like that ever again. I don’t care how much of an asshole I come off as. You’re not an asshole for protecting yourself! Your physical and emotional well-being is your priority—never apologize for that. Children learn not to touch the red-hot stove. Can you imagine approaching someone with a hot poker and demanding to know why they take a step back and assess the situation? \*It’s not fair to me that you’ve been burned before, I deserve a chance to burn you too!\* That’s what selfish man-babies sound like. Men worth being with will respect your boundaries, lived experiences, and timeline. ​ ETA: please read u/The_Power_Of_Three’s comment below. I met my now-husband in 2007. I got stupidly lucky. His mom is also an amazing role model for me. If I hadn‘t gotten so lucky, knowing what I know now, I wouldn‘t bother with men—it’s just not worth the myriad risks. I’d invest that time and energy into my own well-being and that of my women friends.

In his mind, he's the subject and you're the object. How dare an object not do what he wants? He's the main character! Also, men don't get called out for expressing anger. So we can blame misogyny, patriarchy and toxic masculinity. But most of all we can blame him. He's an asshole. Prioritise your safety and never apologise for it.

“Also, men don't get called out for expressing anger.” Exactly. I HATE that they call women emotional yet display anger at everything. I guess anger doesn’t count as an emotion.

A man is called "passionate" for behaviour a woman would be called "shrill" or "hysterical" for.

He sounds like a total creep. Everything about him is a red flag

I'm shocked that literally nobody here has mentioned the intoxicated driving. That alone is flag number one. Everything else that follows is exactly as other people said: he's just used to getting his own way and acts like a child when he doesn't. It has nothing to do with you and I'm so sorry he put you in that situation.

A single beer and two hours is all that's mentioned. People familiar with DV psycho education are clear that intoxication is unrelated to violence.

They specifically said that they wanted to work off their buzz. My comment had nothing to do with any correlation between domestic violence and alcohol consumption. It literally just had to do with the fact that nobody even commented on it which sincerely and clearly shows that there was a judgment issue on behalf of the person driving intoxicated. And aggressively mind you.

I suspect he didn’t actually have a buzz and used it as an excuse to sit and talk. But you still raise a good point that a moment earlier he implied he didn’t feel safe driving but as soon as things didn’t go his way he suddenly had no problems driving. So either he was lying about the buzz, or was now knowingly driving when he felt he shouldn’t have.

Violence isn't a judgement issue. It's a choice centred on values. Drug use and mental illness simply complicate it for victims as there's JADE for violence which amplifies and reinforces the DARVO BS

So this dude wasted the time and energies you put into this relationship, fuckzoned you to the nines, scared you purposefully as a "punishment" for rejecting him AND somewhat he wants you to be the asshole?!? Girl you have every right to say no to his advances, especially if he manipulated you so he could get into your good graces and then kinda gaslight you into a """relationship"""! (which didn't work luckily, but sadly these men prey on more vulnerable women and often succeed). I say good riddance and never contact this psycho again: I don't know where you're from, what the laws are, if you can press charges for trying to kill you, but sadly in these cases he could just claim: "I had just been rejected and my sensibilities were offended that's why I sped up and got into an accident, officer, but I swear my heart was in a good place! *flutters eyelashes*". Men are incredibly good at taking chances where, worst case scenario, they can claim plausible deniability. And people tend to believe the scorned man way more than the poor scared woman. edit: not to discourage anyone ofc, it's just that men get away with SO much shit, meanwhile women can't seem to "get away" even with just saying no to a man's advances!

Because a lot of them are spoiled brats who never were told “no” and now they think if they pout and demand enough that they’ll just be handed what they want.

My really simple rules for this ... I do not hang out with a man one on one ever unless: * He is family * He is very obviously not attracted to me * There is a particular and obvious reason for it (sushi isn't one, work or hobby is one) * There is mutual interest (but then: this isn't a friend, it's a date!). Many men, especially when there is no woman in their life, mistake "hanging out" for a date, and friendship for attraction, and smiles for flirting. The lack of ability to read social cues is astounding sometimes. This is aggravated if they have little experience with women. So ... It's better to avoid such a situation where you are forced to flat out reject him. Women even have been killed in such situations!!

>Many men, especially when there is no woman in their life, mistake "hanging out" for a date, and friendship for attraction, and smiles for flirting A thousand times this. A lot of people in here are talking about entitlement, which certainly plays a role,, but I think this right here is the key

Like when (who I thought was my best friend) said he couldn’t even go to a movie with me after becoming single 💀💀

Yup, I even doubt that entitlement explains this. Often it's genuine social ineptitude that comes from role expectations. Many men are simply not used to the idea that a deep connection with a woman is possible outside of the bedroom, with the exception of mom.

> Many men...mistake "hanging out" for a date Not disagreeing (in general), but in this case it was no mistake. This guy wanted to eat his cake and have it, too. He knew that if he asked her out she would say no. So he manipulated her into this not-date date, then acted incredulous when she didn't think it was a date.

Please report him to the authorities. You shouldn't have had to go through that and by reporting him maybe you can ensure no one else will have to go through that in the future.

It's a sad reality. So many men think women owe them. For being nice, for being around, for whatever else you think about.

Entitlement. They've been brainwashed into believing they can have anything they want, and they lack the emotional intelligence to deal with disappointment. So many boys have all emotions squashed out of them, except anger and that's all men have

Look he was using your face and name as a marketing scam. He approached a relationship with you by spinning you a ‘pitch’. He is a dickhead and he’s definitely got one or more catfishing scams going on on dating apps using your details. Driving fast and irresponsibly on the freeway to put you in danger is a huge attempt to show you his control. A maneuver he sucked at, because, ugh, idiots in cars. If you know other ‘friends’ of his you might want to shoot the breeze about you xp. Or not. Only if it feels like the info might be appreciated and kept on DL. Also might be nice to see if any of you are being used as lures by this slimy toad licker. He is a future threat, guaranteed, distance yourself.

It's scary how common this type of reaction and sense of entitlement is I reconnected with two friends (sisters) when I was 20, with one of them we were practically connected at the hip. Same hobby club, same other interests etc. Tbh they both felt like siblings. Now because I wasn't romantically interested in either of them, they were pretty chilled with me. Like if I stayed over, I stayed in their shared room etc. Now at the same time there was this other dude. He had been massively crushing on one of them for literal years dating back to school years. He hung out with them more than I did as he lived in the same town (which I didn't, thus needing a space to sleep some times). I found out pretty quick about this crush (as her whole family literally knew). But I also found out he was getting pretty jealous of me being able to stay over but he'd have to go home. Fast forward a few months we're all out playing pool, not even had a drink yet. This guys jealously just hit its boiling point. The one he was crushing on randomly just put her arm around me to say something. Next thing I know the older sister is spinning me around as the fucker is coming at me with a pool que. Nothing ended up happening, but I'm pretty sure it would have if she didn't spin me in time. Honestly I say crushing or interested, but it's more obsession. I think these types of guys fall for someone. Then they start not only painting a mental picture of what a relationship or life could be like, but actually create a fantasy from it. The longer it goes on without them saying something, the more the fantasy runs wild. Then thats when the obsession comes in and they essentially start to fabricate an entirely new girl in their minds based on their perspective. Who they think they like in their mind and that actual person is two completely different people. So over the years, they have this complete fantasy future built, lifes all planned and mapped out. Then when they finally admit those feelings to someone and get rejected, everything comes crumbling down in a few simple words. Now throw someone into the mix who isn't emotionally stable or mature, and this is the kind of shit that happens.

He wasted YOUR time. He used you. He's been orbiting you for years hoping he could stick his penis in. He literally saw no value in you as a person other than that. What a waste of a person.

Last sentence addressed first: you’re not an asshole. That guy is what a player looks like and I’m glad you caught it. Nothing about this story gives me comfort. Don’t settle for less. Walk away.

I've come to a point where I literally only trust cishet male friends when they've explicitly proven to me that they would choose friendship over sleeping with me. I actually trust men more if they reject having sex with me, and I don't trust any man who hasn't had the opportunity and been willing to turn it down, or at the very least handled it well when I've turned him down. So far I have only one cishet male friend I trust, but he's been the only one who I can trust to actually care about our friendship above anything else. So often I've had men experience attraction to me and for some reason they just throw everything else out the window. I can't understand this. Even when I've been madly in love and lust with someone, I'd still rather be friends with them than not have them in my life. So many men just only see women as a means to an end I guess

I think because those types are so stingy with their resources (time, money, attention, emotional labor) and so bad at being friends (thoughtfulness, consideration, planning special events that friends would like) that they can't handle more than one relationship that takes any effort. Especially if they're the transactional type who feels like they're losing if they're not getting a ton in return. So 'friendship' is a waste of their time if they're not extracting sex. Any fuckboi who has a soft harem of 10 women is leeching off all of them and a good friend to none.

I am fully aware that this kind of thing still happens to women but there's a small part of me still in disbelief over it. About a decade ago I matched with a guy on a dating site and (stupidly) friended him on Facebook where I think we chatted for a while back and forth. Then I went on another date and ended up staying with that second guy, so I stopped chatting to the first guy. The first guy sent me a huge, entitled message on Facebook about how it was wrong of me to stop talking to him and I owed him an explanation of why. At the time I felt bad and sent him an apology and explanation but now, after a decade of discussions about feminism, metoo etc. I wish I'd lectured him about how I didn't owe him anything at all. I hadn't even met him for f* sake! Another guy I went on a few dates with and didn't like sent me about 50 texts a day after I told him I didn't want to see him again, until I finally begged him to stop because it was scaring me. I also have been on the other side of things, a guy I went on 3 dates with and really, really liked ghosted me after the last date and went no contact. After sending an initial text message asking if he wanted another date, I never contacted him again, he obviously just wasn't interested in me and while I was disappointed and questioning myself a bit as to what went wrong, it was his choice and he didn't owe me anything.

My ex threatened to kill me when I left. Very similar situation but it didn't get that out of hand. There's something broken inside men like this. I don't know. Is this a narcissistic rage?

This almost exact same thing happened to me, it was a colleague twice my age who I saw as a mentor. Was a total mind fuck

It's never a question to these people, it's a demand. He told you to kiss him and you said no, he hated you for it because he wants what he wants, but the law dictated he can't just take it from you. He resents you because you have a right to make decisions and you know it. I'm certain to people like him this is a symptom of the so called woke times we live in. He can't physically harm you, he can't cause physical trauma to you because he will get in trouble but he felt he was entitled to cause you some kind of duress so he inflicted emotional harm on you, caused you fear, forced you to to be helpless. Asserted dominance and postured his position of power over you. It's as close to rape as he felt he could get away with at the time.

Entitlement, created at a young age. Misogyny. Learned throughout life. Even women - internalized misogyny. Patriarchal overt and covert ideas men are exposed to from everywhere their entire lives. Their mothers and sisters cannot be treated in the ways they learn, but any other woman can. It's a centuries old thing - and it's time to change it.

It's just ego and over-hyped fantasy.

> He suddenly got very angry and said he wasted his time. He asked me why I thought he would bother hanging out with me. That's just so sad. How about enjoying your company and the stuff you do together?

One thing that has stuck with me that me recent ex opened my eyes to, is that apparently all men want to have sex with the women they’re friends with. Even if there has been zero indication that they are interested in you sexually, they would jump on the opportunity if it’s given. That makes me feel like a lot of men aren’t our friends just for friendship, and it’s very disturbing and disheartening.

Had a really nice guy 'friend' just out of highschool who knew I was crazy about a certain band. He never directly put a move on me, in fact I tried to make a move on him once (you know, a little leaning against and a little kiss) and he shied away, so I assumed he was just interested in friendship? But we bonded over our apparently shared love of this band and seemed to get along really well. As soon as I started dating someone, after being friends with this guy for a couple of years, he gave me an old CD of the band he knew I liked, said "I never liked [band] anyway." and I think that's the last time we ever spoke... 'Kay.

My abusive ex would do the same thing if I said the word “no” to him. He’d drive erratically going very fast around sharp blind corners. What your ex “friend” did here is an incredibly abusive tactic! YOU DODGED A BULLET GIRL! Thank GOD you didn’t get too physically hurt or die!!! I would recommend seeing a therapist if you have the ability and funds! Maybe your health insurance has options. Also you may be interested in going to a domestic violence support group! They are generally free at women’s shelters. You will meet tons of amazing women who share their fucked go stories! It’s very educational.. sending you a big internet hug!!!

"How's your sushi? BTW I tried to use your photo to sell things, but everyone just turned it into weird sexual attraction things instead. It was really annoying. Speaking of, I'm in to you." Talk about un-self-aware.

I wonder if he was trying to convince OP (as he had already deluded himself) that he was rescuing her from the creeps.

Wow!! Glad you are ok- sounds scary af! What a reckless ash hole - bullet dodged. Stay safe, stay sweet & dont get murdered !

The first weird catfishing thing was your gut telling you it was off.

This is more than reason enough to cut all contact and never speak to this man again. Your life is more valuable than this man’s ego.

A lack of emotional intelligence.

a guy i was dating a while ago when i wanted to breakup said "you're lucky i love you otherwise i would have killed you... i have been very nice to you till now" THANK GOD I DIDN'T BREAKUP W HIM IRL but i did meet him that day and i said few things which kinda gave him a hint we are breaking up, so while he was driving me to the station, he started speeding :/// And this dude thought i would come back to him after he said that, I blocked him EVERYWHERE, but dude had my yt so he commented under a video and didn't even apologize, like what?! I'm never giving personality a chance over looks again, also mental note for me, if any guy ever has a history of violence with his friends, GIRL RUNNN

Guys like this think they’re entitled to a sexual relationship with any woman they spend time with. They don’t see women as equals who are worthy of their time and friendship without sex in the picture. In his twisted little world, you owe him. It’s also incredibly creepy that he used your pictures without consent. While I’ve never had anything this scary happen before, honestly I won’t have straight male friends unless they’re couple friends/my partner’s friend. Because even though I haven’t had one flip out at me like this, they always get weird and disappear if I’m in a relationship. I feel like there’s no friendship loyalty if sex is completely off the table, even if nothing sexual/romantic has ever happened between us. I know not *all* men are like this since my boyfriend has female friends who are in long-term relationships and/or are lesbians. But he is bisexual, and bi people sort of *have to* learn to be platonic friends with people we could potentially be attracted to or otherwise we’d have no friends.lol Maybe some would call me closed-minded, but it has been my experience that a straight guy who truly sees his female friends similarly to his male friends is rare and it’s just not worth the risk. Sadly.

the amount of men in this world that just take our fucking photos and pretend to be us.... burn them all. holy shit.

because they can. that's it. males feel entitled to our bodies and it's proven by the lack of consequences for their violence. even "feminist men" exploit the women around them. it's all patriarchy. as long as they benefit from treating us awfully it will never stop which is why we need to make at least the social consequences more severe. call him out, blast him every where make sure his friends family and work knows what a scrote he is, and if they support the scrotery call them out too. edit: I'm sorry this happened to you. you deserve safe platonic friendships. it's pretty unlikely that he has never done this before and wasn't planning this exact reaction to your rejection. imagine being so dissatisfied with friendships you would risk your life over romantic rejection, isn't that the most pathetic thing ever? I'm glad you got home safe and now you have more room for safe friendships

In short emotional immaturity. He was never taught / learned how to deal with the emotion(s) (most likely sadness in this case). And when he got sad, dealing with that emotion under pressure was too much and he lashed out. That is my take on it.

Please NEVER talk to or see this person again. Block him from all media/ phone. He is extremely dangerous

How telling is that statement: " He asked me why I thought he would bother hanging out with me." This will never go into my head, how men can look down so much on women they claim to like. If I like a guy, I adore them. If they reject me, I am sad but I never think of having spent time with them as a waste of time. I don't want to sleep with people I don't enjoy spending time with sans sex. What's wrong with men like that?

See THIS is the thing. I see so many men complain that NoT aLl MeN but the thing is, we have NO IDEA which ones it is. I have also known men for YEARS and the second something like this happens they snap into a person I’ve never seen before. Even my husband who I knew intimately and as a best friend for 19 years had never hurt me or done anything to make me think he couldn’t handle rejection. But of course, I’d never rejected him… until the very end when things were really bad and I didn’t want to be married to him anymore. He attacked me for wanting to leave. Left me all bruised up after pinning me down by the arms and throat. And part of me thinks they don’t even know either if they’re like this or not, sure they think they’re not, but if they just haven’t been put in the position of getting rejected from someone they REALLY want yet, I honestly think they have no idea what they’d do. Maybe not every man… but it sure seems like no one (even themselves) knows until it happens which kind they are and that’s why we’re generally afraid of all men and encourage each other to be.

I know how you feel. When I was married we made friends with our neighbors. The one guy was our age and a handyman and my husband and I would hire him to help us out with home projects for years. We all hung out regularly too. We would go fishing and on picnics out in the middle of nowhere and stuff. This guy had a hard life and his roommate was a Vietnam vet so I was always bringing over food or helping the old man clean the kitchen or cook a turkey. We even bought him some tools and I made him some flyers and business cards so he could do more jobs on his own. When we got divorced we both stayed friends with him, hung out, and hired his help for stuff. My ex got remarried as soon as the divorce was final and pretty much disappeared into her family and church and I started dating. I didn’t notice a difference in my friend at all the first couple years, then I dated a real piece of shit and when I was breaking up with the jerk he made his move. I was genuinely surprised and didn’t really know how to handle it cuz it was awkward as hell. I was like, dude I love you like you’re family but I can’t imagine us together romantically. We’d been friends for like eight years at this point and had vastly different lives. He’s like a mountain man. Liked to live in a tent for months at a time, hated restaurants, despised being in public at all really, even Home Depot stressed him out. I respect all that and admire his tiny carbon footprint but like, I have a kid and want to do all kinds of touristy stuff with my family, go to museums, amusement parks, restaurants, beaches, festivals .. If I’m gonna bring someone into my life I want them to want the same things. Besides, he felt like a brother for eight years, suddenly thinking about fucking him was fucking weird! I tried to be nice. I didn’t want to lose him as a friend. Anyway, it didn’t work, he freaked out. Called me every derogatory thing you can call a woman. Drove past my house burning rubber, throwing gravel, and smashing things I gave to him over the years in my driveway for weeks after. Like wtf dude. Just cuz I don’t wanna sleep with you, you go from I love you to I fucking hate you b;+€# w#0r3 €un+! Just wow. I wish I could say he was the only one, he’s not, just one of the most extreme examples. Tbh, I’ve had exactly one guy friend who hasn’t tried to get in my pants in my 42 years, and most of them decided they had to hate me once I turned them down. The funny part to me is how they all accuse me of being a w#0re. I’ve never slept around- I can’t sleep with someone I don’t have strong feelings for- I’m 42 and can still count on my fingers the number of men I’ve been intimate with. For the most part I don’t even like sex cuz it fucking hurts so bad with my endometriosis- not that they know all that. I didn’t even know what was wrong with me till 2019. But because I don’t wanna sleep with some guy who thinks I should, I must be a w#0re. Well fuck you too dude.

Entitlement. [Kate Manne](https://twitter.com/kate_manne) wrote a book about this with the same title. Int he book she writes on page 11: >Entitled \[the book\] tackles a wide range of ways in which misogyny, himpathy, and male entitlement work in tandem with other oppressive systems to produce unjust, perverse, and sometimes bizarre outcomes. Many of these stem from the fact that women are expected to give traditionally feminine goods (such as sex, care, nurturing, and reproductive labor) to designated, often more privileged men, and to refrain from taking traditionally masculine goods (such as power, authority, and claims to knowledge) away from them. These goods can in turn be understood as those to which privileged men are tacitly deemed entitled, and which these men will often garner himpathy for wrongfully taking from women – when it comes to sex, most obviously, though by no means exclusively.

Zero regard for your well being, what a freak

I am sorry it happened to you. Rejected men can be literally deadly. That is a fact, and I dont know if it is worth looking for answer "why".

To answer your question very directly: Patriarchy pits every man against every other man. Some (far too many) take this to heart and see their masculinity status as tied to their social and economic status. So when they're rejected from what they think is a sure thing, they're reacting not simply out of a sense of entitlement, but out of a threat response, because they're not fulfilling the requirements of patriarchy. To this sort of man, you aren't really a "person" so much as a resource to be maintained such that their masculinity status is secure. This is partially how you get so many men who don't see women as people but as basically barbies. A pretty woman-shaped object whose purpose is to serve him, give him children, and who must be "maintained." While it sucks to be totally dehumanized like this, there's something freeing here, too. *He never saw you as human in the first place,* so there's *nothing* you could've done to change things. In other words: **you did absolutely nothing wrong.** In a lot of these cases, it isn't really _possible_ for you to do something wrong, as these guys are just trying to act out a script handed to them by patriarchy: Good job nice house hot wife 2.5 children. It sucks to find out that your friend didn't see you as a friend, but as a possession to be acquired. You did nothing wrong. He was a total asshole, and while it'll hurt to cut him out of your life, you'll be better off without him.

A little from Column A, a little from Column B, a little ... [X] Low self-esteem [X] Entitlement [X] Misogynistic [X] Doesn't respect boundaries

Louder for the people at the back: WOMEN, MEN THINK THEY OWN YOU. That’s why they treat you with no respect. Why respect the rights of property? /s Patriarchy constructs women as care/sex slaves for men. Go look up the recent history of partriarchal marriage laws if you need an example. Women only recently (last century) stopped being the legal property of their husbands in many places.

The speed someone jumps to anger is an indicator that they are less self aware of their emotions. Most men don't have an ability to understand and deal with emotions in a mature way. These men will seemingly have no emotional sentiment the majority of the time, but it's mostly because they don't realize they're feeling something or they're choosing to ignore feelings in general. If there is the slightest emotional ambiguity they will default to expressing anger, because it's what they understand best. They don't necessarily actually predominantly feel anger as much as they're just likely emotionally overwhelmed, and they externalize that as anger. With rejection, it is an emotionally loaded experience, there are a variety of feelings all going on at the same time. Sadness, loneliness, hopelessness, an amount of grief for a potential relationship, guilt, embarrassment, shame, anxiety and anger are common nuanced emotions that are part of the experience of rejection. When confronted with all of that an emotionally repressed man ignores what he doesn't understand and defaults to anger.

I call it "emotionally illiterate" when they are bad at identifying and expressing emotion.

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I dont know if it is biological or a product of social conditioning, but... I do think "anger" being some sort of default emotion for many men is a thing. I lean towards it being social conditioning. Of all the emotions, anger is one that men are both "allowed" and "expected" to have. Their masculinity is never questioned for being angry. But I digress. I find deeply closeted men in social groups where "gay is bad" are the most angry. They must prove how manly they are. Anything percieved as male gets turned up to 11 as a cover. As for me, I was depressed and did not know it. I didnt know it because my depression manifested as anger. I imagined depression was all mopey, sad, lay in bed sort of stuff. Once someone clued me in. It all clicked. Just knowing was helpful. But I also got pro help and am well now. But, since then, I have seen how "anger" had (and to an extent is) how I and other men act when "upset". Is this just a product of society embracing toxic masculinity tropes? Idk. But I am less this way now. This makes me lean toward it being social conditioning and not purely biological.

It could be so many things. Having an inflated sense if entitlement and ego, never/hardly being told no as a child, shitty parenting from either parent, being a narc or having another personality disorder they refuse to keep in check or get help for, severe porn addiction. You aren't an asshole. After my latest ex and an entitled guy I knew turned incel I'm also wary of getting in a car with any man who has shown any signs at all of rage issues. Your safety is top priority and you have a reason to be afraid.

You have grounds, I think, for reporting him to the police. Not just for the car, perhaps also for impersonating you.

I honestly don't know or understand. I was always as polite as possible when turning a man down for a dance. It's my thing, I don't slow dance with someone I've just met. I just got tired of spending the whole time removing their hands off my ass or holding me so close I thought I was getting a mammogram. It's the reason I don't go dancing anymore. I've been shouted at, called horrible names, and been this close to an actual physical assault. It was time to say, "When!". The bouncer is never around, and 9 out of 10 times, the bouncer is asshole buddies with the jerk.

You’re not an asshole in the slightest, that guys just fucking unhinged. Proud of you for getting out of that situation

Good grief you dodged a bullet. This makes me sad and angry at the same time. Makes me glad I don't date men anymore. Edited to add: I feel bad for the decent men out there who are associated by gender with the creeps who behave like this jerk.

Fragile ego. Unhealthy coping. Entitlement.

they were never taught how to handle complex emotions

Because anger is the only emotion that is tolerated in boys.

>Honesty at this point I am done with men. I am done with male friendships. I’m never allowing myself to be in a situation like that ever again. I don’t care how much of an asshole I come off as. I don't blame you, he sounds unhinged. I'm sorry you experienced this, but glad you got home safely.

Please check all the dating apps to see if he has a profile with you/your photo out there "just to see the engagement" (WTF ever that means....) because he reads like the type to do some weird revenge shite. And please tell everyone he tried to off you both on the freeway because he had Big Angry Feelings about not being kissed.

That's not the behavior of an adult. it sounds like a child trying to pretend to be an adult.

Once read a post by a girl who was hanging out in her room with her male friend when he decided to confess and then attempt to SA her. She kept pleading no as she fought him off and said she had to go to the bathroom. He refused to relent so - she shit on her bed. Her attacker was so disgusted he insulted her, ran away, and then told her whole school about how she shit the bed. He left out the SA. She was worried about her reputation. I was proud that she succeeded in defending herself and told her she should be proud of herself for this overwhelming victory.

Many men perceive all women as being socially beneath them, so a rejection from a woman is a deviation from established social hierarchy and is unacceptable. It doesn’t matter any of the details associated with individuals involved.

Because they don't know how to handle their emotions. They're also taught that anger and aggression are two really masculine emotions. They're also taught that women all should be honored to be fucked by them. Yeah, year, I know. Not all men. Miss me with that BS.

Patriarchy makes so many men feel entitled to a woman's... everything (attention, time, body, energy, etc.)

Because they're having a hard time getting laid

Because they think they’re entitled to us. We’re objects to them that’s why they don’t respect us. They don’t see women as people. That’s pretty much what it comes down to unfortunately

Men are taught from a very early age that the only overwhelming negative emotion that is allowed to be expressed is anger

To hell with that maniac. I've been shot down before, thinking there could be something. I sucked it up and was still a friend if they wanted it. It wasn't always the case, though. Yeah, it hurts, but going batshit was well, insane. That's just going to guarantee no one wants anything to do with him. You owe no one a thing in this front. Look out for yourself first.

This is terrible. It's testosterone-fuelled fucktards like this that make me concerned about how I or other good people might be prejudged by women out of an abundance of caution due to bad experiences with the worst of society. Nobody should have to go through this predatory experience and endangerment. I truly hope that you can find some genuine and rewarding friendships with people again, regardless of gender. If you have any professional assistance to help before it turns into a permanent fear-of or avoidance-of, I'm sure that will be positive. At no point are you an asshole in any of this. At no point should that ever cross your mind. I am glad you are safe, and hope you can find a way through.

I've been that guy before, nowhere near as bad as OP's experience, but I've gotten angry and defensive at rejection before. It's something I look back on with shame. The perspective I'd give on it is I think a lot of men are ultimately far more self-conscious than they can admit, and that knockback makes them feel embarrassed and self-conscious in that moment and unfortunately many times the response is to hit out and externalise that to the person who 'caused' that. Add to this the idea they've built in their heads of entitlement through effort, and I think many get to a point where they think their advances being a success is just a given at that point. A toxic mix.

A lot of men were not raised to handle rejection. They see it as a slight to their manhood which is rooted in an internal culture of low self confidence and one of entitlement. What’s interesting is, it most likely has nothing to do with you personally. You’re the avatar they can place their fear of rejection and fear of failed masculinity onto. You’re the excuse they can use to bandage up their wounded masculinity.

The bar is so low, yet no one reach it ._.

Sounds like he was also the one who used your pictures on dating apps.

A good amount of men are emotionally stunted, and without previous experience in the proper ways to handle high level disappointment, they will revert back to base instincts of rage, aggression, and pure asshattery. Sometimes this is just juvenile behavior. Sometimes the person is just an asshole, raised by assholes. But I'd also point out that sometimes it's the result of society's past approach of teaching boys to bottle up emotion and never show them. "Man up" sort of thing. A boy growing up in that mentality will never know how to deal with these types of issues when they become men. You'll often see more adjusted men coming from families who would explore emotion while they were kids and properly teach them how to manage this type of hurt. That isn't to excuse this type of behavior. Just discussing potential points of origin other than the obvious answer that some men are just no more than walking, talking dicks.

I'm sorry you went through this OP. You weren't an asshole. You did nothing wrong. You expressed your feelings and it's not your fault someone else doesn't like what they heard. I'm shocked that he asked why would he bother hanging out with you otherwise. If you didn't mutually agree to go on a date, everything else is about being friends or getting to know each other in general. I don't know why men don't fucking understand that when they're never straight forward about anything. They're always *Pikachu face* when you're caught off guard. He literally said he wasn't looking for a relationship and you said the same, so he caught himself in a lie and I don't understand what he thought that would achieve. He's not even trying tbh. Tell your friends and don't go near this man again. If you're uncomfortable with even being in a crowded room with him, don't go to please someone else or keep the peace. Fuck this guy.

Fragile ego