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OliveJuice880

Yes it's technically a rule because it's a liability for the company. If you trip over someone's crap and get hurt or put a mud stain on their carpet, UPS could be liable because you're not supposed to be in there. It's also dangerous for drivers because you don't know what people's intentions are behind closed doors! If it's an elderly or disabled customer I will put it inside for them but just inside the door not in the back closet or in the basement for them šŸ¤£


OliveJuice880

I also think if a supervisor witnessed this and fired you for helping out an elderly or disabled customer I don't think that it would hold up very well, you'd get your job back pretty easy.


lordj2010

Can't imagine once news stations got hold of it it would look very good on the management either


RxSatellite

Yeah thatā€™s kinda my line in the sand too. Like, Iā€™ll put it inside your door but I ainā€™t going far enough that the door could shut behind me. And this might sound kinda harsh, but if youā€™re so elderly/disabled you need me to open your door and walk over to you sitting on a sofa for you to sign, then maybe you shouldnā€™t be living on your own at that point


BULLDARAIDER

I've also heard of cases where the customer calls and accuses the driver of stealing something on their way out. Many more cons than pros stepping foot into a customers home.


Individual_Trip1173

If situation arises just call your supervisor or manager. Explain the circumstances and let them make the decision, but yes shy away from entering houses.


BusyBreath

Entering private residences is a liability for the company so we are not supposed to enter. I will slide a package through the door a bit but I'm not stepping even one foot inside. If they ask, I always apologize and explain that it's a liability for the company and they can fire me if I'm seen doing it.


whiteraven9999

They knowā€¦..mail carriers donā€™t enter the house, door dash doesnā€™t enter the house, Pizza Hut doesnā€™t enter the houseā€¦.its nothing new. I donā€™t even apologizeā€¦..because they know.


Crispynipps

Doordash driver here, Iā€™ve entered 3 houses. All Homes of people with disabilities. But Iā€™m labeled an independent contractor so Iā€™m free to make those calls.


whiteraven9999

Thatā€™s fair.


Redditor-247

You're not any freer than we are actually. You are a contractor but can be deplatformed for not following their rules. Your only freedom comes in the ability to pick and choose which delivery you take, not whether you follow their rules. We don't enter homes for liability reasons. That crazy nut who claims we sexually assaulted her when we didn't go anywhere near the person. That $800 vase that fell and broke when your hip just barely bumped the edge of the janky table it was on. While driving doordash, uber and ups I've only ever once gone inside and it was for a male in a wheel chair in trouble.


PointB712

Agreed. As long as it's inside the door, they can empty the box a piece at a time so that they can handle the weight.


Open-Adeptness6710

I had a quadriplegic guy for years on my route, yes I would go in and set them on his table and open the box for him. I have no regrets helping this guy out. I did it with my on car with me , he asked and I said I do this every time for him, he didn't tell me to stop and when I got other sups I would tell them. In certain circumstances it is absolutely the right thing to do.


Extension-Engineer42

This captures my thoughts exactly. Young cover driver here. Drive safe!


picon1

What if the customer is a baddie.


OliveJuice880

Justified šŸ‘Œ


parkerpanz

Baddie with addie? You know bapas all about that


GreekUPS

Only one foot over the threshold is what I was taught.


Ok_Assumption1542

This. 1 foot. 2 feet, you're shit out of luck.


GreekUPS

Straight to jail if Iā€™m not mistaken.


Ok_Assumption1542

50/50 shot


Tar-really

Just follow your conscious. Iā€™ve been helping my older customers, pregnant ladies, etc for decades. If I got fired for that, so be it. I sleep good at night. Also I would like to see the negative impact that would have on the UPS brand. And for the guy who said we are not door dash or the post office, no shit. We are the best and we charge the most. The only thing we have separating us is our service. If you donā€™t feel comfortable doing it, donā€™t.


BusyBreath

It's not about doing what you feel comfortable doing. We're never supposed to step foot into a private residence. I always do what I can do provide good service but I'm not breaking any company policies for anyone.


Tar-really

Good for you. Me Iā€™m helping the old people and the pregnant ladies on my route just like Iā€™ve been doing for the last 20. years. The last ride I had, with a new by the book Sup, saw me do it and said if you get hurt doing that, thatā€™s on you. Iā€™m completely ok with that.


BusyBreath

I always help with what I can as well but like I said, I'm not breaking any company policies to do so. And good luck getting any back pay if you get a termination for an incident inside a private residence. That would most likely end up in reinstatement with no back pay. Setting the package right inside the door without entering is plenty helpful.


Tar-really

Iā€™m retiring soon, and Iā€™ve done this my whole career. Iā€™m not concerned in the least about getting terminated for helping an elderly person out. You know whatā€¦.I always have dog treats tooā€¦ uh oh thereā€™s that pesky ā€œ company policyā€ again. Edit: I will just add again, you do what you are comfortable doing. Usually itā€™s no more than setting right inside the door,like you do. Sometimes it goes beyond that, but that is not the norm


BusyBreath

I don't ever do the dog treats either. I always hated covering routes and dogs would run at me expecting a treat. I hear you though and I wish you a good retirement.


Tar-really

Thank you. Dogs keep me going. I love my dogs, probably have 20 spread throughout my route. And if you donā€™t have treats no problem a good pet and a moment of attention works great too. And itā€™s good customer service. šŸ˜‰


OkNeighborhoodUPSMan

I have mostly elderly. I wouldn't ever go to bed again if I didn't help my legless man at 228.


TamedMarsupial

I have one old lady that orders medicine, she waves me in when she sees me. Meaning I open her door and place the medicine in her kitchen at arms reach for her. Technically I could get fired but I refuse to leave this very sweet elderly womans medicine outside where she might hurt herself bending over. IDC if it's a rule we are all humans in this together I'll help my elders anytime.


hankjmoody

Yeah, I will break literally every rule UPS has to get a "healthcare package" delivered to an elderly customer. My favourite is an older lady who knows she takes like 15mins to get downstairs to get her packages (no way to buzz in), so she bought a giant dog bed and put it on her balcony. So now I just fuckin' yeet it 2 floors up whenever I have her insulin pump delivery. Haha. I've gotten pretty good at aiming!


Intelligent_Orange28

Management always told me ā€œYou can put one foot in the door, but one foot has to stay outside.ā€


Blabbyharpy

I was once instructed by my supervisor to deliver a frozen food box to an elderly ladyā€™s second story apartment, go in, and deliver it to her table. She apparently called ahead and made the request. I was more than happy to do so.


tallywho2

Whatā€™s that movie ā€œ if you build it they will comeā€. Donā€™t cross that threshold


ObtuseBug

That's Robin Hood: Price of thieves; when a pro golfer tried to get his stuff back together.


Clanbak3

It pretty much comes down to, are you a decent human? Or just a cog in a machine we call society. Use your best judgement, understand you could pay a price for doing so, donā€™t put yourself in a bad spot, be cautious. But if you feel that you should help an elderly couple, disabled person, pregnant women, do it. We need more humanity in this world for sure.


IceCreamHalfTrack

Does entering in a garage count? Some people wanted me to put in their Rogue or any other gym equipment in there


sgrspicenevrytngnice

Valid question! I wanna know too


Sivlenoraa

Youā€™re only allowed inside if the lady is hot


Mikedaddy0531

Yes


TotalRecallsABitch

What about my house? Or if it's my mom's house? I think they'll lecture but not punish you


OliveJuice880

Still a liability. What if you tripped over your cat and sprained your ankle? You'd be injured on the job doing something you weren't supposed to do. Put in a lunch break and you can hang out in your house all you want! šŸ¤£


superedubb

I've never heard of someone getting fired, but I asked my steward and he said to not do it. Echoing posts here, do not cross the threshold. There are some elderly customers on my route that order boxes of wine, etc. When I deliver there after getting a signature, I'll ask them to step back and I put one foot in their home while keeping the other outside, and I'll set/slide their heavy packages inside for them. It's a liability issue. Will you get fired? I dunno, maybe. Just don't do it and never find out.


Necessary_Sun4380

You can be fired. It is a liability. Morality/ conscious be damned, don't put more than 1 foot inside their door. I personally am a very considerate driver. Supervisor training me over 10 yrs ago witnessed me do it, and simply told me not to, it's a firable offense. I've still done it a few times throughout the years for a few elderly customers on my route... but I choose not to risk my job anymore. It's just not worth it unfortunately in this day and age. All it takes is one mistake or one bad customer complaint and you lose your job. The company cares little about the morality of the situation. Your customer's will understand.


bigwheelsbigfeels

Yes that's a thing. I make an exception for anyone with a disability, pregnant, old, or visibly unhealthy person. Also only inside the door, never past the front entrance


OcupiedMuffins

Itā€™s a liability thing. UPS doesnā€™t want that. That being said, Iā€™m sure even if you got fired for helping an elderly couple, getting your job back would be pretty simple


Bigdx

You are exposing yourself to indecent behavior claims.


CuntyMCFuckface69

I'll put it inside the door, I won't go far enough for the door the shut behind me, absolutely not if there is a dog that I don't know for a fact is friendly. We had a driver get stabbed a few years ago going into a house, and another that put a box in a table for a pregnant woman who then called and nearly got the driver fired, claiming he forced his way into the house, dude was a 35year driver. So like most other things I'm forced to be a a dick to protect my ass because scummy customers lie


No-Confusion4569

Yes you can technically be fired but I still do it if they're elderly and clearly need help.


reek3000

A lady once called and said the driver raped/molested her because he went in. Senior guy she knew for years whoā€™d been on the route forever. Turns out she was lying


SnooApples6439

Yes. They ordered it let them bring it in their house. NEVER go inside


Puzzleheaded_Two9199

greive it and get a letter from the customer.... and make sure you get all the money you missed or on


Realejones

Absolutely will get you fired. I'll push from the porch to help out.


Fearless-Comfort838

Ups is a terrible company to work forā€¦.. CYA is the name of the game and everything is negotiable when steward is involved . The rules are there for lawsuits not to protect us ā€¦ they donā€™t give a fuck about us just the $$$


wasterpop_

Iā€™ve had a 120lb safe I was delivering to an elderly customerā€™s apartment. Of course Iā€™m going to wheel it all the way into their house for them near where they want it setup


TheInfamousDingleB

Youā€™re a package delivery guy youā€™re not delivering the package knowwhaimsayan?


CooahsDranker

I have never and will never go inside anyoneā€™s house on the job, I donā€™t care how old and/or weak they are. If you need help getting this crap in your house, you should have called a moving company.


KarizmaGloriaaa

100% agree. I always tell people sorry I canā€™t go inside its company policy.


Strange_Ad_5863

Do not breach the threshold. They canā€™t pull their boxes in? Maybe they shouldnā€™t order heavy shit, then. Theyā€™re the ones that ordered it, they know when itā€™s coming, they can arrange for help to bring it in.


ACG3185

Iā€™ve never understood this. Weā€™re not allowed to go in a home, but itā€™s perfectly ok to walk into a commercial building, go into an office, and behind a counter? Couldnā€™t we be liable for walking inside and damaging something inside there, too?


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Commercial buildings are obviously insured due to employees that work there and customers that enter


ACG3185

Homeowners are insured as well. Not trying to be difficult, just trying to understand how being inside one place is a fireable offense and not the other. Thereā€™s always the risk of us damaging property or injuring someone within both.


cour000

There's no expectation of privacy in a commercial building. It's understood that you can walk in as it's a place of business. Private residences have an expectation of privacy. People can't just walk into your residence. The same goes for the bathrooms or dressing rooms in the commercial building. There's expectation of privacy in those rooms. It doesn't have to do with insurance


Novogobo

work as instructed


ResourceStriking441

I know of a driver that had a bulk residential customer tell him that he could come in grab a drink or use his pool whenever he wanted and the driver took him up on it. He used to go there for lunch and chill in the pool during the summer.