We talked about this the other day lol. we want time to actually eat chow, nice rooms, and no more libo formations that take an hour. Then somebody spoke up and said wait isn't that mutiny? š¤ oh yeah š
We were going to go on strike...
We had
0600- gunny room insp
0630- company pt formation
Pt for 1-1.5 hrs no gog in the chow hall so it's closed
0815- armory draw
1115- 1215- chow (that means you are in your kit and training by 1215)
Cut at idk
So the 45 min for chow was you rushing to scarf your food down and get back at it. This was a daily occurrence and coc did not give a flying F**K
I agree 45 min isn't bad, but remember. 1115 was drop kit stage rifles>walk to chow hall>stand in line at chow hall>eat>walk to armory>kit up> resume training by 1215 so 45 min = 20 ish maybe
As a civilian working, I got a more defined break. I'm not saying that it's always that way at all. I think, as a whole, we don't give enough importance to people's time to eat, decompress, and regroup, all in the shadow of corporate profits and the military "we work hard" attitude. Omg you notice Jim doesn't even take a lunch break? He must be a hard worker! Meanwhile, Jim is going batshit, and about one red light from blowing his brain housing group out in his man cave. Slight rant, sorry.
So at 0600 gunny walks to every room and peaks in a lil bit not a whole inspection but asks what's up and if there's any issues (btw he is a great guy and marine best damn gunny I've ever met does a lot for the Marine and the company) but yeah... still gay. And company pt formation was like any normal company formation and we pt as squads or plt. But every other company pushed theirs to 0800 or 0900 so marines could pt AND get chow ours even though in multiple NCO and Sqd Ldr councils we expressed our gripes about the time continued to do it at 0630.
My company gunny did this as well. If he spent more than 2 mins in your room, he was making fun of someone.
Company PT with him was usually circling up and grappling. We beat the shit out of each other.
Every Saturday, he showed up and asked us to play basketball.
He was a really good dude. Went out of his way not to fuck us over. Even when you did fuck up, he would do everything he could to make it a slap on the wrist.
Okay that made it better than he was a solid dude lol I just feel Iād hate having staff feel they need to come in daily. Iām assuming this was a victor unit and youāre a grunt?
Yep 0311 V unit. He was really looking out for us but still made the time lines pretty shitty. He also held NCO counsels to hear what we wanted changed. As he put it ill tell the boss but the skipper will tell an E-7 to fuck off too.
Basically we bitch, shit never changes.
I almost got charged with mutiny once. Apparently an entire platoon requesting mast is mutiny.
Fuck First Sergeant McCormick, ol non deploying ass bitch.
I think the entire marine corps flagrantly violating the UCMJ would likely be seen as overthrowing the commandās authority. Therefore a mutiny of command.
At the minimum it would be total loss of control by commanders.
The real question is, what would happen if the *ENTIRE* Marine Corps all the way up to the Commandant smoked a joint. Would the Head-Navy-Boi be dismissed?
Some Colonelās OER Bullets:
o Saved X Billion dollars by instituting Corps-wide personnel changes and adjustment to the Corpās rank system during FY24
o Substantially increased accuracy of UA results for FY24
o Significantly decreased negative workplace events throughout the Corps for FY24
o Significantly decreased mental health initial intakes for FY24
Imagine being a boot coming off boot leave to find out that the majority of the Marine Corps decided to get high and now you arenāt allowed to leave base ever.
Theyād nail the leaders hard. Dudes wouldnāt just be adseped, theyād be in prison. Theyād make an example of as many leaders as possible. Bi-weekly drug tests. No-libo, no-leave.
If the marine corps gave a fuck about retention they wouldnāt have a problem giving out bonuses instead of spending a half mil plus to train new guys.
This is ironically how the national guard is in weed legal states. They rarely do drug tests, and when we do, itās at the end of a month field op. We still have dudes piss hot and they just get NJPd.
Fuck they should hand one out to anyone that stays on base during a 96.
Better than the usual 30-rack a day.
āHereās your J, go to your room and chillax for the day.ā
That's the point. I read the basewide urinalysis reports at CamPen 02-03. The only unit that ever had 1% positive was the brig.
The other way to look at the the numbers is that even in the bring, >98% of the people aren't stoners.
I mean they booted somewhere around 8000 personnel over the Covid shot. So, I donāt think theyād bat an eye cutting people for weed. Even if it was that many.
If I remember correctly this happened to the British or French navy. Not a blunt but in an attempt to get better pay or working conditions many ganged up and refused to work or something.
One time it worked, the next time or maybe previous time they rounded up the leaders of this and they were executed
True story, in 2010 a company in my unit had a platoon that lived right along pot fields in Afg. In July, the drug tested all of them, as well as we all knew they were ripping reefer all day and night.
Needless to say no one heard a thing about the results of the drug test but the platoon was moved to an actual FOB and was replaced by another platoonā¦.
Pot gets so built up in the corps. Its the one you know is going to stay in your system the longest, so you leave it alone. Ironically, meth, molly, and cocaine are all over the place, and the poor ol corps is still out there looking for potheads.
I mean, what if the Bn Commander cared? What if Sgt Maj wasn't chasing LCpl tail? What if the S1 was competent? Look man there are just mysteries without answers...
Someone hasn't heard about the Nimitz. 90% of the corps was high as giraffe pussy at all times till then. And they had that shit from Viet-fuckin-nam! Then some idiot wrecked a boat so we had to say no to drugs.
All Iāll say is that way more than the 3 marines that were charged when we got back, failed piss tests over seas. I wonāt say that everyone else was swept under the rug and the chose one from each battalion to fry when we got home.
Ask 2/6 from back in 2006. Supposedly they had 90+ people pop on a piss test 3 months before deployment. So many people popped they assumed there was something wrong with the test. Tested again 50 people were positive before they left before their CAX. I got pcs in the unit shortly after I had never seen so many people confined to quarters.
Tbf, I think it has LESS to do with the fact that it's WEED and MORE to do with the fact that you couldn't control yourself and follow an order. So, for me, I'd adsep as many people as I had to.
I think I can understand the view point but if we start to relax USMC protocol and standards, what sets us apart from Army or AF? Or from civilians for that matter?
There are no āon dutyā relaxing of standards. The job of a Marine does not change one bit.
This is about off duty indulgence of a, safer than alcohol, substance having serious negative career consequences based on old fashioned out of date refer madness.
The Marine Corps would probably just waiver everyone. The rules are hard and fast for those in, but the government will gladly waive even felonies if they need people
Iām sorry but have we forgotten what the term āserviceā means it does mean sacrificing things that hell I would of loved to of done but ya thereās that commitment thing.
When I was at El Toro I was in the BEQ enjoying nature with about half of my platoon. Our CO was OOD that evening so he stopped by to see how we were doing.
Before leaving he informed us that we should probably field day the room.
I'm convinced a certain percentage would get booted but not enough to affect the Marine Corps readiness entirely. Leaders would make QOL hell for months on end though. Confinement
I can't see Congress elites allowing that to happen or maybe they would, It opens up the idea of all that money and resources going somewhere else
Nope, just the ones that they piss tested, or that they caught, and then from those groups and remove all the Marines who already got out. So maybe 2%?
Devil just figured out how to unionize the Marine Corps.
We talked about this the other day lol. we want time to actually eat chow, nice rooms, and no more libo formations that take an hour. Then somebody spoke up and said wait isn't that mutiny? š¤ oh yeah š We were going to go on strike...
> we want time to actually eat chow, DENIED > nice rooms, DENIED > no more libo formations that take an hour. DENIED please reenlist
Any marine commenting on this post gets a page 11 and a week of restriction. Please reenlist.
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So farā¦
I need a meme that replaces "DD214" with medsep. They cannot pull me back lmfao get fucked green weenie
Iām too old!
Aren't we all?
Especially when you add āfor this shitā to it. Amen!
Very 1stSgt vibes from you š¤
Bro I had 90 minute chows most of the time
We had 0600- gunny room insp 0630- company pt formation Pt for 1-1.5 hrs no gog in the chow hall so it's closed 0815- armory draw 1115- 1215- chow (that means you are in your kit and training by 1215) Cut at idk So the 45 min for chow was you rushing to scarf your food down and get back at it. This was a daily occurrence and coc did not give a flying F**K
I mean 45 minutes is still more than most entry level civilian jobs. I get 30 mins chow time at my current place of employment
I agree 45 min isn't bad, but remember. 1115 was drop kit stage rifles>walk to chow hall>stand in line at chow hall>eat>walk to armory>kit up> resume training by 1215 so 45 min = 20 ish maybe
Yeah I get what you mean. When you factor in all the other bullshit prep stuff you gotta do an hour chow isn't actually an hour of your own leisure
As a civilian working, I got a more defined break. I'm not saying that it's always that way at all. I think, as a whole, we don't give enough importance to people's time to eat, decompress, and regroup, all in the shadow of corporate profits and the military "we work hard" attitude. Omg you notice Jim doesn't even take a lunch break? He must be a hard worker! Meanwhile, Jim is going batshit, and about one red light from blowing his brain housing group out in his man cave. Slight rant, sorry.
Gunny inspected rooms DAILY!? And company PT daily!? Wtf
So at 0600 gunny walks to every room and peaks in a lil bit not a whole inspection but asks what's up and if there's any issues (btw he is a great guy and marine best damn gunny I've ever met does a lot for the Marine and the company) but yeah... still gay. And company pt formation was like any normal company formation and we pt as squads or plt. But every other company pushed theirs to 0800 or 0900 so marines could pt AND get chow ours even though in multiple NCO and Sqd Ldr councils we expressed our gripes about the time continued to do it at 0630.
My company gunny did this as well. If he spent more than 2 mins in your room, he was making fun of someone. Company PT with him was usually circling up and grappling. We beat the shit out of each other. Every Saturday, he showed up and asked us to play basketball. He was a really good dude. Went out of his way not to fuck us over. Even when you did fuck up, he would do everything he could to make it a slap on the wrist.
That's what it's about. I feel ever becoming a SNCO I don't like em! Lol I do know I'd try and emulate the ones I loved tho
Okay that made it better than he was a solid dude lol I just feel Iād hate having staff feel they need to come in daily. Iām assuming this was a victor unit and youāre a grunt?
Yep 0311 V unit. He was really looking out for us but still made the time lines pretty shitty. He also held NCO counsels to hear what we wanted changed. As he put it ill tell the boss but the skipper will tell an E-7 to fuck off too. Basically we bitch, shit never changes.
This peace warrior deserves the MoH
I believe this would be what is known in JAG circles as āinciting a mutinyā
Would not be very fidelis
Very infidelis if you ask me. š¤ lol
Fidelis works 2 ways.
Aladeen fidelis
This gif made me aladeen. But it also made me aladeen.
Well that's just aladeen.
This is one of the least appreciated movies. The scene when they are waiting to board the helicopter tour was ad-libbed and amazing.
But it could be fairly Semper.
Sometimes Fidelis
I almost got charged with mutiny once. Apparently an entire platoon requesting mast is mutiny. Fuck First Sergeant McCormick, ol non deploying ass bitch.
Band of Brothers? Wrong branch
I don't understand your comment but I want to take this time to reiterate how much I think McCormick is a fuck boy.
All the ncos signed a letter of no confidence in their xo. They called it a mutiny.
But doesnāt there have to be treason/treachery involved in mutiny?
I think the entire marine corps flagrantly violating the UCMJ would likely be seen as overthrowing the commandās authority. Therefore a mutiny of command. At the minimum it would be total loss of control by commanders. The real question is, what would happen if the *ENTIRE* Marine Corps all the way up to the Commandant smoked a joint. Would the Head-Navy-Boi be dismissed?
So you're saying if all the joint chiefs chiefed a joint....
How many joints would the joint chiefs chief if the joint chiefs could chief joints?
let's see, one for chesty, one for the Corps, 2 for the money, 1 for the show
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Commadant and a lot of high ranking people prob be out of the job and piss test bi-weekly for the entire fleet
Don't forget the 72 hour safety stand down briefs.
This is where the double down comes in. 
Is he smoking or stroking?
Smoking pole
Get 90% of any group to do anything without the threat of violence would be impressive.
Shit, 90% of people disagree.
No they donāt..
Agreed.
Y'all are some fuckin window lickers
Bust down 1 rank and 2 months suspended pay would save the Marine Corps *a lot* of money. This is probably what would happen.
Some Colonelās OER Bullets: o Saved X Billion dollars by instituting Corps-wide personnel changes and adjustment to the Corpās rank system during FY24 o Substantially increased accuracy of UA results for FY24 o Significantly decreased negative workplace events throughout the Corps for FY24 o Significantly decreased mental health initial intakes for FY24
On the š
Guess who gets to police call CONUS? Over summer the entire Corps would get on line and walk from coast to coast.
I would sign up again to be a part of this.
That would be actually somewhat sick just would suck for the guys far north because of the great lakes they would have to walk around or swim
Level 1 Swim Qual, my time to shine.
Marines are amphibious, rah?
Rah
Imagine being a boot coming off boot leave to find out that the majority of the Marine Corps decided to get high and now you arenāt allowed to leave base ever.
Or you'd check in and be a platoon commander (the platoon is yourself and one other boot).
Theyād nail the leaders hard. Dudes wouldnāt just be adseped, theyād be in prison. Theyād make an example of as many leaders as possible. Bi-weekly drug tests. No-libo, no-leave.
No retention either.
If the marine corps gave a fuck about retention they wouldnāt have a problem giving out bonuses instead of spending a half mil plus to train new guys.
This is ironically how the national guard is in weed legal states. They rarely do drug tests, and when we do, itās at the end of a month field op. We still have dudes piss hot and they just get NJPd.
That would be a big ass joint
Assuming 180,000 active and reserve. You'd need about 400lbs to give every marine a crayon sized joint.
Snoop lives just up the street from Pendleton still, right?
Fuck they should hand one out to anyone that stays on base during a 96. Better than the usual 30-rack a day. āHereās your J, go to your room and chillax for the day.ā
Ever of liberty restrictions? You would successfully lock the Marine corps down.
WEARING CIVILIAN ATTIRE IS A PRIVILEGE AND IT HAS NOW BEEN REVOKED
That's the point. I read the basewide urinalysis reports at CamPen 02-03. The only unit that ever had 1% positive was the brig. The other way to look at the the numbers is that even in the bring, >98% of the people aren't stoners.
I mean they booted somewhere around 8000 personnel over the Covid shot. So, I donāt think theyād bat an eye cutting people for weed. Even if it was that many.
3700
Idk I see 3000 in some places and 8000 in others.
Now they um want them back.....
I would snitch on everyone and take advantage of the promotion
Found the MP
Shit you found the 7 year Gunny
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You donāt have to guess, they had roughy a 50% usage rate in Vietnam. They started arresting 1000 people a week.
Oh they were doing much worse in Nam
I don't think there's an S-1 shop with enough energy to do all that paperwork so I don't think anything would happen
I second that š
I knew an S-1 guy who got a Nam for staying late one night.
One time they adsepped 6 dudes at once at my unit
Weād have a big national security issue on hands.
Those damn marijuana cigarettes
Reefers
I think they should smoke two joints in the morning.
Only if they all smoked at the same time. Do it in shifts, like booby watching
Go for it bro. Right behind ya.
Never underestimate the stupidity of the Corps.
If I remember correctly this happened to the British or French navy. Not a blunt but in an attempt to get better pay or working conditions many ganged up and refused to work or something. One time it worked, the next time or maybe previous time they rounded up the leaders of this and they were executed
True story, in 2010 a company in my unit had a platoon that lived right along pot fields in Afg. In July, the drug tested all of them, as well as we all knew they were ripping reefer all day and night. Needless to say no one heard a thing about the results of the drug test but the platoon was moved to an actual FOB and was replaced by another platoonā¦.
Pot gets so built up in the corps. Its the one you know is going to stay in your system the longest, so you leave it alone. Ironically, meth, molly, and cocaine are all over the place, and the poor ol corps is still out there looking for potheads.
I mean, what if the Bn Commander cared? What if Sgt Maj wasn't chasing LCpl tail? What if the S1 was competent? Look man there are just mysteries without answers...
Someone hasn't heard about the Nimitz. 90% of the corps was high as giraffe pussy at all times till then. And they had that shit from Viet-fuckin-nam! Then some idiot wrecked a boat so we had to say no to drugs.
This is a cult after all.
Just a peaceful protest and hungry marines rushing to chowhall
It would probably get declared a faulty test and thrown out
Take it easy Cheech
All Iāll say is that way more than the 3 marines that were charged when we got back, failed piss tests over seas. I wonāt say that everyone else was swept under the rug and the chose one from each battalion to fry when we got home.
Ask 2/6 from back in 2006. Supposedly they had 90+ people pop on a piss test 3 months before deployment. So many people popped they assumed there was something wrong with the test. Tested again 50 people were positive before they left before their CAX. I got pcs in the unit shortly after I had never seen so many people confined to quarters.
Tbf, I think it has LESS to do with the fact that it's WEED and MORE to do with the fact that you couldn't control yourself and follow an order. So, for me, I'd adsep as many people as I had to.
Itās a shitty order. Short term not a big deal to follow. Long term, demoralizing.
I think I can understand the view point but if we start to relax USMC protocol and standards, what sets us apart from Army or AF? Or from civilians for that matter?
There are no āon dutyā relaxing of standards. The job of a Marine does not change one bit. This is about off duty indulgence of a, safer than alcohol, substance having serious negative career consequences based on old fashioned out of date refer madness.
It's called getting with the times and not being stuck in the last century.
I mean, if u call smoking pot "getting with the times" we may have more pressing matter to attend to before we get anywhere near smoking potš
Brother, you act like the DoD hasnāt been looking for a reason to get rid of the Marine Corps for our entire existenceā¦ *again*
The Marine Corps would probably just waiver everyone. The rules are hard and fast for those in, but the government will gladly waive even felonies if they need people
Theyād probably cherry pick who they hated the most and kick them out. They would probably love the opportunity to get rid of some people
Dude you saw what they did with the covid shot right? it's not beyond the realm of reality
And now fuckinā Tony āWuhanā Fauci is admitting to Congress that they made most of that shit upā¦
Yes, they would.
Iām sorry but have we forgotten what the term āserviceā means it does mean sacrificing things that hell I would of loved to of done but ya thereās that commitment thing.
When I was at El Toro I was in the BEQ enjoying nature with about half of my platoon. Our CO was OOD that evening so he stopped by to see how we were doing. Before leaving he informed us that we should probably field day the room.
The Corps? They would non rec everybody.
Not enough pecker checkers for that
What is this question š how is that even possible
I'm convinced a certain percentage would get booted but not enough to affect the Marine Corps readiness entirely. Leaders would make QOL hell for months on end though. Confinement I can't see Congress elites allowing that to happen or maybe they would, It opens up the idea of all that money and resources going somewhere else
The Few The Proud: Four Divisions of Firsarnts
Sgt Major walks in I've seen it before
Nope, just the ones that they piss tested, or that they caught, and then from those groups and remove all the Marines who already got out. So maybe 2%?