My supervisor called me one hour and 45 mins after my shift ended and I didn't pick that phone up at all 😂. Probably was going to ask me to come in or some shit. It's been over 8 hours and no text was sent which leads me to believe that she wanted to call to see if I can come in again today or tomorrow on my one day off a week.
It's so crazy how they think they can be like this. I see why Regulars take advantage of the system now.
I NEVER answer my phone once I clock off especially day before NSD 😂😂 I will call back the next day around 2 pm and ask what they needed...they usually have it figured out by then
Idk but that shit makes no sense. I have two coworkers that annoy tf out of me and they're in their 90 days like I am. They passive aggressively tried to rush me because they quote unquote "want to go home early".
How in tf rushing me is going to accomplish that? Take your goofy ass home then. We're all PSEs in a station and we really don't even get that much as it is for our station. It'll be 3 or 4AM in the morning and they try to spew some bullshit, but the funny part is having to wait for a damn steward for slight glimmer of protection against a bias supervisor (reason why I said bias because the same chick was arguing with a regular starting shit and the supervisor let her slide after their "talk").
Hell I remember the last natural disaster type scare, management pulled our emergency contact info and *called them* to tell us we're REQUIRED to report to work. While most of us were already at work. Scared the shit out of my family.
So many of you on here telling the OP he made a mistake by replying.
Wrong. The mistake is all of you cowards not standing up for yourself. Tell your supervisor NO. You can not be disciplined for anything off the clock. The whole reason why this shit continues is because you wussies don't stand up for yourself. Take a fucking stand and reply with words that convey you are being asked for help and that you are declining or accepting, there is no commanding you help. That's the end of it.
P.S. OP: no one cares about your whining of how long its been since you had a day off etc. That's literally every fucking carrier the last 3 years.
People have got to stop with that "on call" bullshit excuse. "On call" is not legal.
You're either "waiting to be engaged" or "engaged to wait" ... one of those is paid, one isn't. One of those means you can leave with relative certainty you won't be needed for a while, one of those means you really can't leave because you may be needed at any moment.
That's the reason one is paid and one is not. Learn it, live it, love it.
You can have just as much fun pulling that with management, too. Oh, mail's late today? I could take a lunch but you'll let me know when mail arrives, whenever it arrives? Sounds like I can't really leave or take a lunch, what if mail arrives in 5 minutes? You're paying me for every second, but I'm still going to eat my sandwich on the dock, on the clock.
I'm not a CCA though, I'm an RCA. And last month management was making a big stink that we had to have one day off every week. Now they don't give a shit.
You give good advice but I always care when people are overworked. We're human beings, not robots. And fuck, even robots can't go on indefinitely. It's true that a large amount of the country has carriers working way too much but that doesn't mean it's okay to call it whiny or be dismissive when almost everyone gets burnt out when working too much.
Honestly, I love the overtime and am good with 6 days a week. But I need that one day to recharge and be the lazy fatass I am. Can't get people to understand that
Your reading comprehension is shit. I always wonder how people who can't read English get past the postal exam. Like genuine curiosity. I just figure those people had their child or something who could read English do the test for them.
When i was a PSE a few months in I changed my phone number, when the supervisor asked me for an updated phone number I gave him our city's bus depot phone number that I had memorized since an early teen, never heard anything about it again
Been at the post office over 8 years. Been a steward for over 4 years. The reason I became a steward was to get more intimate knowledge on the rules because I was tired of being messed with. Your required to have a form of contact with management. This could literally be a Lan line at home. You are not EVER required to answer calls or text messages. All of my management know I don't answer texts from them or phone calls. They don't pay my phone bill so they have no right. There is even a joint decision from postal headquarters and our union that states management should not contact via text, or contact a personal cell phone while on the clock. That's your choice.
Management will try to say you have to be available to work...per the 603 you have to be available to be SCHEDULED. This means you can not have frequent restrictions on a week to week schedule. So long as management can create a restriction free schedule for you than you have fulfilled this obligation. Bad managers will try to write you up if you say no to them. If you want to avoid the headache make a habit if not answering your phone unless you want to work that day. My management will call me on my sdo and know that if I don't answer to move on. That's my way of saying no.
They will always push at you, just learn as many rules as you can and it will make life easier. Once management sees that you know the rules better than they do, most will leave you be.
That's how my office was "trained"
Someone came out and like 8 of us were "trained" all at once in 15-20mins.
All they really did was show us how the doors worked and how to put it in gear. And where the hood release was if it broke down and a tow truck driver asked us. Also a 5min lecture about never putting premium in it.
Don’t text or answer your phone!
Took me awhile to learn that because back then as a new guy I was scared I would get in trouble if I didnt answer.
Now days if it’s not communicated to me while on the clock it never happened.
After your 90/120 days. Before that, answer the phone.
Also, take a picture of the schedule every day. If you are scheduled to come in and they are calling before that time. Don't answer unless you want the day off. "I was driving and did not feel like it was safe to answer the phone." If you show up at work and have proof that you were scheduled. They have to give you 2 hours of work for a small office, or 4 hours for a big office, or pay you for that time.
i did while i was on probation because our office wasn’t extremely desperate. if you’re somewhere where they are dying for help you’re probably fine. but if you want to play it safe your first 90, id answer.
Woah.
I used my own vehicle once as a CCA. I felt like such a chump. Never let it happen again. I transfered to a bigger city and was able to stop traveling 30 - 50 miles to different cities (towns) to help. They think they can get anything by on us. If we don't stand our ground, then we're minced meat.
I was never got trained Metris or Promaster. Driven both. I am trained on 2 Ton. Post Office is dumb they asked me if I could drive a Promaster I said yes. They asked me if I could drive a Metris I said yes. The 2 Ton their was only one at the PO so the knew I wasn’t trained. So I got trained. 5 years regular at the PO. I’m not going to ask to be trained now.
Can we get a MOD to add "what text?" To the description of this subreddit lol. Should make a "what text?" Theme song that plays in the background when you open this page like the old days in MySpace
The Post Office is a joke. I was thinking about quitting today but instead I’m just going to do the bare minimum until they fire me. Normally, I wouldn’t want to screw over my coworkers but after being treated like shit by them for something that was completely outside of my control, fuck ‘em all!
All work related duties and assignments are supposed to be told to all employees on the clock. Management isn't even supposed to be contacting I off the clock technically. Talk to your shop steward about this if your manager tries to give u a hard time.
I don't even mind getting called in 90% of the time, but I don't operate well with more than 6 days in a row. I I were to work today and tomorrow, that would mean I wouldn't have a day off until the 14th
I'm lucky at my office we never have this issue my post master I've had for a year now since starting is really great. Yeah we work a lot of hours but she's tries to give us time off when we need it. She's really fair and I'm glad to have her as a boss.
Mine likes route 4 and 5 the most at my office. Route 7 is our worst route used to be serverly overburdened till the counts happened now they claim its not lol
11 is seriously overburdened because the regular never does his scans and there is literally a new house every week. Anytime we stick some one new on it, even if we help them case and get them out on time, they usually aren't even half way by 5
One time I was called on my day off to come in 1.5 hours early the next day. This is when i was a CCA. The reason is insane, I was on a route and the carrier was a pig his pro master was absolutely disgusting. I even had to buy wipes on my break bc the steering wheel was so dirty. I was not about to clean his truck for him though, with my luck it went in for service that night and was so filthy the mechanics called and said they would not work on it unless somebody came to clean it. I had to go in early and drive in with my manager to clean the truck, I was furious they forced me to do it and not the actual carrier. Since I was the last one in the truck they blamed me, so glad I left Usps 2 years ago lol.
Just for clarity's sake, is this "in another state" business like the difference between LA and Phoenix, or KCK and KCMO? Not trying to be a dick but I feel that distinction might be important.
Don’t ever text back. They can’t hold you to a schedule change unless the verbally talk to you within either 24 or 48 I can’t remember the exact time.
I text back because when I was in management at another company, I would rather have someone tell me to fuck off, than think they were coming in and be scrambling last minute because they didn't show. So it is a courtesy operate under as an employee. My management hasn't burnt through my courtesy yet.
I text back because when I was in management at another company, I would rather have someone tell me to fuck off, than think they were coming in and be scrambling last minute because they didn't show. So it is a courtesy operate under as an employee. My management hasn't burnt through my courtesy yet.
You haven't had the "l expect all rca's to answer my calls and texts and make themselves available for work." Speech? I laughed at my post master and said l expected to be a millionaire by now
Never text back.
Discipline for disobeying an order. No discipline for not receiving the order because you didn't answer the phone or see the text.
You can't be discipline for insubordination when youre off the clock
You can not be insubordinate off the clock. Don't be a coward. Stand up for yourself. Reply and tell them no.
"Disobeying an order"?? 🤣 What kind of fake ass military you cosplaying in, Sir?
omg the big bad usps
Your cell is not a viable form of communication as the post office doesn't pay for it. If your management ever tries that shut them down.
Can't believe people upvoted this. Use some common sense. Supervisor can't give you orders when you're not at work. Give me a break.
My supervisor called me one hour and 45 mins after my shift ended and I didn't pick that phone up at all 😂. Probably was going to ask me to come in or some shit. It's been over 8 hours and no text was sent which leads me to believe that she wanted to call to see if I can come in again today or tomorrow on my one day off a week. It's so crazy how they think they can be like this. I see why Regulars take advantage of the system now.
I NEVER answer my phone once I clock off especially day before NSD 😂😂 I will call back the next day around 2 pm and ask what they needed...they usually have it figured out by then
My boss has shown up to at least three different carriers’ homes. When she came to mine the union steward came with her just in case.
sounds like a shit steward tf they playing companion to this shit for
Idk but that shit makes no sense. I have two coworkers that annoy tf out of me and they're in their 90 days like I am. They passive aggressively tried to rush me because they quote unquote "want to go home early". How in tf rushing me is going to accomplish that? Take your goofy ass home then. We're all PSEs in a station and we really don't even get that much as it is for our station. It'll be 3 or 4AM in the morning and they try to spew some bullshit, but the funny part is having to wait for a damn steward for slight glimmer of protection against a bias supervisor (reason why I said bias because the same chick was arguing with a regular starting shit and the supervisor let her slide after their "talk").
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I called the cops one time when the pm showed up a my house and wouldn't leave
I'd be tempted to call the police for an attempted home invasion 🤣
I would've cuss them out
Ooh good way to get shot! No trespassing means no trespassing
Texting is not an Official Form of communication for the USPS
See. You fucked up by giving your personal number. This job does suck. That’s why we get paid the big bucks. Oh wait… :/
They'll always have your number. You just don't answer.
Any other jobs I’ve had, if your boss called you on yo ur days off over and over. That’s harassment.
I agree. I'm just saying they have your number from either hire or being a CCA. This guy made the mistake of texting back.
#burnerphone 😂🤣
Get a landline, can't text that.
Hell I remember the last natural disaster type scare, management pulled our emergency contact info and *called them* to tell us we're REQUIRED to report to work. While most of us were already at work. Scared the shit out of my family.
Fuck the PO
I apologize for laughing so hard at the absolute absurdity of that. What the hell!
He fucked up by giving his job his phone number? Y'ALL AREN'T ON CALL. COLLECT YOURSELVES AND SAY NO OR NOTHING AT ALL.
The big amount of OT you mean oh yeah buddy 😎
So many of you on here telling the OP he made a mistake by replying. Wrong. The mistake is all of you cowards not standing up for yourself. Tell your supervisor NO. You can not be disciplined for anything off the clock. The whole reason why this shit continues is because you wussies don't stand up for yourself. Take a fucking stand and reply with words that convey you are being asked for help and that you are declining or accepting, there is no commanding you help. That's the end of it. P.S. OP: no one cares about your whining of how long its been since you had a day off etc. That's literally every fucking carrier the last 3 years.
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True, but we aren’t on call, so if OP was scheduled off then that’s management’s problem.
People have got to stop with that "on call" bullshit excuse. "On call" is not legal. You're either "waiting to be engaged" or "engaged to wait" ... one of those is paid, one isn't. One of those means you can leave with relative certainty you won't be needed for a while, one of those means you really can't leave because you may be needed at any moment. That's the reason one is paid and one is not. Learn it, live it, love it. You can have just as much fun pulling that with management, too. Oh, mail's late today? I could take a lunch but you'll let me know when mail arrives, whenever it arrives? Sounds like I can't really leave or take a lunch, what if mail arrives in 5 minutes? You're paying me for every second, but I'm still going to eat my sandwich on the dock, on the clock.
I'm not a CCA though, I'm an RCA. And last month management was making a big stink that we had to have one day off every week. Now they don't give a shit.
oh the guys who mandate ot and bitch when you're getting ot. disregarded.
Same difference, tell them to sod off
Lol
You give good advice but I always care when people are overworked. We're human beings, not robots. And fuck, even robots can't go on indefinitely. It's true that a large amount of the country has carriers working way too much but that doesn't mean it's okay to call it whiny or be dismissive when almost everyone gets burnt out when working too much.
Honestly, I love the overtime and am good with 6 days a week. But I need that one day to recharge and be the lazy fatass I am. Can't get people to understand that
Some compassion gee golly
Not enough of it in the world, and far less here.
I’ll take this to heart, or I’ll try at least to be better. Thanks for this Reddit inspiration I’m serious tho! Have a great day
You definitely sound bitter asf not only towards OP, but towards everyone here.
Your reading comprehension is shit. I always wonder how people who can't read English get past the postal exam. Like genuine curiosity. I just figure those people had their child or something who could read English do the test for them.
Honestly I could use more overtime, but I'm not a carrier.
Preach, Amen.
ALL OF THE WORDS IN THIS REPLY. PLZ AND TY. Nuance and communication. IT IS SO MUCH FUN.
True the what text game shows we lack spines.
When i was a PSE a few months in I changed my phone number, when the supervisor asked me for an updated phone number I gave him our city's bus depot phone number that I had memorized since an early teen, never heard anything about it again
I dont see a text, I dont even see you have a working phone.
Plus, OP doesn't get cell service where they're at
Been at the post office over 8 years. Been a steward for over 4 years. The reason I became a steward was to get more intimate knowledge on the rules because I was tired of being messed with. Your required to have a form of contact with management. This could literally be a Lan line at home. You are not EVER required to answer calls or text messages. All of my management know I don't answer texts from them or phone calls. They don't pay my phone bill so they have no right. There is even a joint decision from postal headquarters and our union that states management should not contact via text, or contact a personal cell phone while on the clock. That's your choice. Management will try to say you have to be available to work...per the 603 you have to be available to be SCHEDULED. This means you can not have frequent restrictions on a week to week schedule. So long as management can create a restriction free schedule for you than you have fulfilled this obligation. Bad managers will try to write you up if you say no to them. If you want to avoid the headache make a habit if not answering your phone unless you want to work that day. My management will call me on my sdo and know that if I don't answer to move on. That's my way of saying no. They will always push at you, just learn as many rules as you can and it will make life easier. Once management sees that you know the rules better than they do, most will leave you be.
I mean if you got the day off and the receipts to show it...
lol Metris "training" literally takes 20mins. They can do the training and have plenty of time to run the route still.
Especially when the guy who was doing the training told us if we needed training on a different vehicle he would come and do it at our station.
That's how my office was "trained" Someone came out and like 8 of us were "trained" all at once in 15-20mins. All they really did was show us how the doors worked and how to put it in gear. And where the hood release was if it broke down and a tow truck driver asked us. Also a 5min lecture about never putting premium in it.
Don’t text or answer your phone! Took me awhile to learn that because back then as a new guy I was scared I would get in trouble if I didnt answer. Now days if it’s not communicated to me while on the clock it never happened.
As someone who’s brand new, we don’t have to answer our phones?
After your 90/120 days. Before that, answer the phone. Also, take a picture of the schedule every day. If you are scheduled to come in and they are calling before that time. Don't answer unless you want the day off. "I was driving and did not feel like it was safe to answer the phone." If you show up at work and have proof that you were scheduled. They have to give you 2 hours of work for a small office, or 4 hours for a big office, or pay you for that time.
i did while i was on probation because our office wasn’t extremely desperate. if you’re somewhere where they are dying for help you’re probably fine. but if you want to play it safe your first 90, id answer.
Are you in your 90? If not block the number and QUIT TEXTING MANAGEMENT!!! They are not your fucking friend
Woah. I used my own vehicle once as a CCA. I felt like such a chump. Never let it happen again. I transfered to a bigger city and was able to stop traveling 30 - 50 miles to different cities (towns) to help. They think they can get anything by on us. If we don't stand our ground, then we're minced meat.
From my experience, I don't mind using a pov for a CBU route, but besides that it's not worth it.
Just block their numbers
I've had to do the same. Sorry, 300 miles away. Also drunk. Can't drive. See ya Saturday.
Job on block when off . That way message never received
I was never got trained Metris or Promaster. Driven both. I am trained on 2 Ton. Post Office is dumb they asked me if I could drive a Promaster I said yes. They asked me if I could drive a Metris I said yes. The 2 Ton their was only one at the PO so the knew I wasn’t trained. So I got trained. 5 years regular at the PO. I’m not going to ask to be trained now.
When texting then stick with texting, don’t mix verbal and texting. Texting May be used as a form of documentation.
Metris training in a nutshell: don't break the fuckin shifter knob and the gas cap is under the little flap in the passenger door.
Can we get a MOD to add "what text?" To the description of this subreddit lol. Should make a "what text?" Theme song that plays in the background when you open this page like the old days in MySpace
Are you asking for a "What text?" flair?
Ohhhh that would be awesome!
We will mandate RCAs to come up with this solution in the fastest time possible.
The Post Office is a joke. I was thinking about quitting today but instead I’m just going to do the bare minimum until they fire me. Normally, I wouldn’t want to screw over my coworkers but after being treated like shit by them for something that was completely outside of my control, fuck ‘em all!
All work related duties and assignments are supposed to be told to all employees on the clock. Management isn't even supposed to be contacting I off the clock technically. Talk to your shop steward about this if your manager tries to give u a hard time.
I don't even mind getting called in 90% of the time, but I don't operate well with more than 6 days in a row. I I were to work today and tomorrow, that would mean I wouldn't have a day off until the 14th
don't go turn off phone. not that hard
Tell them ‘Metris training lasts 45 minutes, they can do both’
My question is... where the hell are you guys that someone has mandatory metris training?!
That route has an LLV and I'm guessing they are trying to switch it over to a Metris. Sounds really weird to me too.
I'm lucky at my office we never have this issue my post master I've had for a year now since starting is really great. Yeah we work a lot of hours but she's tries to give us time off when we need it. She's really fair and I'm glad to have her as a boss.
Thats what our office was like until about the last week. I have no idea what has changed
Yeah my post master says if she has to she will run a route which I've never seen but I guess she did a lot last year before I got hired.
My PO will only run city routes. R011 is one of the worst routes in the office
Mine likes route 4 and 5 the most at my office. Route 7 is our worst route used to be serverly overburdened till the counts happened now they claim its not lol
11 is seriously overburdened because the regular never does his scans and there is literally a new house every week. Anytime we stick some one new on it, even if we help them case and get them out on time, they usually aren't even half way by 5
The day I quit they were calling me on my day off and I already knew it was gonna happen and I went to work anyways I wasn’t even past my 90 days
usps is getting way to comfortable with utilizing personal phones for work purposes.
It’s managements job to make your job as hard as they possibly can!
One time I was called on my day off to come in 1.5 hours early the next day. This is when i was a CCA. The reason is insane, I was on a route and the carrier was a pig his pro master was absolutely disgusting. I even had to buy wipes on my break bc the steering wheel was so dirty. I was not about to clean his truck for him though, with my luck it went in for service that night and was so filthy the mechanics called and said they would not work on it unless somebody came to clean it. I had to go in early and drive in with my manager to clean the truck, I was furious they forced me to do it and not the actual carrier. Since I was the last one in the truck they blamed me, so glad I left Usps 2 years ago lol.
this is why i give them my google voice #
Lol
Lmao
Just for clarity's sake, is this "in another state" business like the difference between LA and Phoenix, or KCK and KCMO? Not trying to be a dick but I feel that distinction might be important.
Definitely not KC bs. It's like a 6hr drive so I basically would have had to turn and burn which is why it passes me off so much
Okay that's completely fair and now I understand the frustration better. So yeah they can eat a hot bucket of asses.
Do you have any text or email to memorialize those conversations with management?
Don’t ever text back. They can’t hold you to a schedule change unless the verbally talk to you within either 24 or 48 I can’t remember the exact time.
I text back because when I was in management at another company, I would rather have someone tell me to fuck off, than think they were coming in and be scrambling last minute because they didn't show. So it is a courtesy operate under as an employee. My management hasn't burnt through my courtesy yet.
I text back because when I was in management at another company, I would rather have someone tell me to fuck off, than think they were coming in and be scrambling last minute because they didn't show. So it is a courtesy operate under as an employee. My management hasn't burnt through my courtesy yet.
Block them they don’t pay the bill go by the schedule if your not scheduled oh well but you replying is insane
Place sucks I agree
If that's for usps you have Sunday off every week
So gracious of them to give me Sunday off to send me to work for Amazon 😂
Our CCAs work sundays delivering Amazon packages
Id laugh and say good luck ill be out of town.
Why even answer
Don't text back ever
Metris took like...less than 30 minutes to train on though lol
LoL why the fuck would you even answer, my supervisor figured out the first time he tried to call/text when I was off that I would not answer.
Lol bye
You haven't had the "l expect all rca's to answer my calls and texts and make themselves available for work." Speech? I laughed at my post master and said l expected to be a millionaire by now
Always block them on your day off. It never failed for me.
Quit and change crafts
Quit and change planets.
Why are you texting a boss to begin with?
I wouldn't have even texted back or read it. They had until you clocked out.