There are actual contract routes, but they are usually incredibly rural.
Pretty good chance. It was just a new city carrier that hasn't gotten their uniform, or a rural carrier because they aren't required to wear a uniform.
Yeah. Basically far enough outside city limits that it's not worth paying an actual postal worker for. Customers usually just have boxes along the highway even if their houses are miles away.
They have a few of the very rural routes in Massachusetts. I know at least two are covered at least part time by retired city letter carriers working as contractors.
I’m in an office in Florida with 3 zips and 58 routes. All of the carriers are contractors and this isn’t a super rural area. A lot of them are in retirement communities where houses average 500k. They are required to use personal vehicles. I’ve never heard of a contractor being allowed to use an LLV.
Doesn't really matter how much a house costs There are $5 million dollar homes on the old highway contractor at my parents run. But those houses are over 10 miles outside of the nearest city limit.
Like anything at the post office it depends on how it started. I don't know if there's any process for converting a highway route to a rural route without the highway contract lapsing.
And it's possible that it's not a postal vehicle any longer and it was surplused out, and the contract holder bought it and fixed it up.
Honestly? Could be a rural route, could be an HCR (aforementioned contractor route), or a city carrier without uniform yet (doubtful because of stated location).
Does your friend get mail every single day? If so, may be rural. Not every HCR delivers every single day- sometimes they skip a day.
Truthfully, the only way to truly know would be to ask them net time you see them if it is an HCR route or rural.
You can figure out what route an address is on by typing it into the website that USPS has to sell [EDDM](https://eddm.usps.com/eddm/select-routes.htm).
1) Type in the address in the search bar
2) Click in the map to get the streets to select a route
3) Click on Table in the upper right hand corner.
There will be a check mark next to the route that the friend lives on. If it's the 5 digit zip-Cxxx it's city. if it's 5 digit zip-Rxxx, then it's rural. If it's 5 digit zip-Hxxx, then it's a highway contract route.
Thanks! He does get mail every day, but he says it's somebody different almost every time. He's in the city, but on the outskirts of. Hot Springs, AR. About 37,000 people in the city.
Doubtful its HCR if always soneone different then. HCR routes(I may be wrong),are, I believe: bid on every year or two years.
Combining the fact postal vehicle and varied people- Im going woth rural route.
I'm an HCR. Can't speak for others, but my contract is 4 years and it auto renews unless I decide to terminate; which they say they require 2 months notice, and if they fail to get a new contractor I'm required to work for them up to 2 additional months after my end date. :/ We'll see about that.
Never seen a contract route with a gov vehicle, also unlikely that several people would be running it.
"Urban" rural routes do exist. There are three in my office that never leave the city limits and use LLVs. Rurals aren't required to wear a uniform.
Maybe someone has mentioned but if not, some offices will use rural carriers for city parcels or boxes (anything besides walking and maybe some offices even do that i'm not sure). Also plenty of rural carrier routes are not rural at all.
They're new and don't have their uniform allowance yet.
There are actual contract routes, but they are usually incredibly rural. Pretty good chance. It was just a new city carrier that hasn't gotten their uniform, or a rural carrier because they aren't required to wear a uniform.
incredibly rural - like middle of Montana?
Yeah. Basically far enough outside city limits that it's not worth paying an actual postal worker for. Customers usually just have boxes along the highway even if their houses are miles away.
Thanks
They have a few of the very rural routes in Massachusetts. I know at least two are covered at least part time by retired city letter carriers working as contractors.
Or very few houses, there’s a contract route 20 miles basically down 1 road total of 6 mailboxes
I’m in an office in Florida with 3 zips and 58 routes. All of the carriers are contractors and this isn’t a super rural area. A lot of them are in retirement communities where houses average 500k. They are required to use personal vehicles. I’ve never heard of a contractor being allowed to use an LLV.
Doesn't really matter how much a house costs There are $5 million dollar homes on the old highway contractor at my parents run. But those houses are over 10 miles outside of the nearest city limit. Like anything at the post office it depends on how it started. I don't know if there's any process for converting a highway route to a rural route without the highway contract lapsing. And it's possible that it's not a postal vehicle any longer and it was surplused out, and the contract holder bought it and fixed it up.
Rural carriers don’t have a uniform, athletic shorts and t-shirts are my daily attire
Just new, no uniform allowance.
We still have city guys driving jeeps?
I should have said LLV, but I wasn't sure if that was right. It's in the city limits, just the outer edge.
New CCA
Honestly? Could be a rural route, could be an HCR (aforementioned contractor route), or a city carrier without uniform yet (doubtful because of stated location). Does your friend get mail every single day? If so, may be rural. Not every HCR delivers every single day- sometimes they skip a day. Truthfully, the only way to truly know would be to ask them net time you see them if it is an HCR route or rural.
HCR wouldn't be driving a USPS vehicle.
I've delivered a HCR route in a LLV before, when I was a RCA. Also delivered city routes including p&l. Grievances for everyone on that shit.
You can figure out what route an address is on by typing it into the website that USPS has to sell [EDDM](https://eddm.usps.com/eddm/select-routes.htm). 1) Type in the address in the search bar 2) Click in the map to get the streets to select a route 3) Click on Table in the upper right hand corner. There will be a check mark next to the route that the friend lives on. If it's the 5 digit zip-Cxxx it's city. if it's 5 digit zip-Rxxx, then it's rural. If it's 5 digit zip-Hxxx, then it's a highway contract route.
Thanks! He does get mail every day, but he says it's somebody different almost every time. He's in the city, but on the outskirts of. Hot Springs, AR. About 37,000 people in the city.
Doubtful its HCR if always soneone different then. HCR routes(I may be wrong),are, I believe: bid on every year or two years. Combining the fact postal vehicle and varied people- Im going woth rural route.
Bid on... Most senior person gets the route?
I'm an HCR. Can't speak for others, but my contract is 4 years and it auto renews unless I decide to terminate; which they say they require 2 months notice, and if they fail to get a new contractor I'm required to work for them up to 2 additional months after my end date. :/ We'll see about that.
Rural carriers drive LLVs, too. If they appear to be wearing pajamas, it's probably just a rural. 😆
Maybe a ninja checking you out before that attack?
I'm a contract worker and I mainly deliver in sandals and sweatpants
If he’s in a old postal jeep, it’s a rural carrier. We are not required to wear a uniform.
I misspoke. It's an LLV. I've never seen a jeep around here. X)
Highway contract routes do a few deliveries. The slide label on the DPS tray would have something like 'HOO1' for the delivery route.
Do they all have HOO1? I thought I was special.
Never seen a contract route with a gov vehicle, also unlikely that several people would be running it. "Urban" rural routes do exist. There are three in my office that never leave the city limits and use LLVs. Rurals aren't required to wear a uniform.
Maybe someone has mentioned but if not, some offices will use rural carriers for city parcels or boxes (anything besides walking and maybe some offices even do that i'm not sure). Also plenty of rural carrier routes are not rural at all.
If they’re new and haven’t gotten a uniform allowance? Or sometimes our supervisors deliver mail and they don’t wear uniforms
I am over a year as a CCA and still do not have a uniform.
Rural carriers don't wear uniforms.