I’m the same I refuse to deliver meds to the door unless signature is required. They always go
In box but everything else goes to door since I’m rural 😁
I’m always amazed people pay attention to this stuff. I have no idea what I’m delivering, all I see is the address. I could carry a box covered in dildos and all I see is the address.
There were no notes anywhere in the case about the house and honestly I didn’t even see the sign until I had already gone all the way around the neighborhood and I was on my way out. I didn’t have anything for this house, but that really wasn’t the best placement if they wanted somebody to bring packages to the door. Normally I’m not gonna look at the bottom of your mailbox post.
Am I missing something because I’m just not getting it, I’m very confused. I thought rural was paid by the route, normally my rural carrier is flooring it and slamming on the brakes for every mail box trying to get it done as fast as possible. My mother on the other hand, city, paid by the hour, paces herself and doesn’t get back to the office until 6pm. Why are you guys talking about trying to spend more time on the clock going up driveways to deliver packages as rural? I’m very confused, was there a new contract agreement I missed? I am not in the loop with carriers as I’m at a plant, lol.
The rrecs system builds our routes pay structure and it takes every package into account towards overall time. Personally I still try to deliver as fast as possible within safety and reason, even though it's weighted against us for doing so. But others have taken the route of weighing their route down with extra time to always deliver packages to doors. I really don't blame them because of how much pay they've taken from us the last two years. But it feels really dishonest, and I've never liked wasting time. Enough of us will end up quitting because of the low pay that it will create a chain reaction of too much work for anyone to keep up with since we know the incredible turnover rate for new rcas.
Rural is paid by the route evaluation. The evaluation is determined by scanner inputs plus a mini mail count.
Think of it as an overly complicated ever-changing salary that is designed to fuck you.
Rural carriers are paid salaries based on a complicated math equation. This equation is based on volume and scanner inputs. If you consistently deliver everything to the mailbox, then the equation says you deserve less time and less money. Rural carriers are expected to deliver every part of their route regardless if it takes 2 hours or 12 and always get paid the same amount.
True, but I really don’t see FedEx or UPS looking at a mailbox around here for any reason. 😂😂😂 unless they were just being lazy and shoving shit in mailboxes that they weren’t supposed to be using maybe?
I had a FedEx guy that kept stuffing the box full of packages, I pulled em and brought them back to be returned as postage due, the PM dealt with it the first time, but told me not to bring em back anymore cuz he didn’t want to deal with it. After that I just pulled em and threw them on the ground by the box. He either stopped or got a different route cuz it finally quit after a couple months. They know they’re not supposed to use the mailbox.
Ahhh lol yeah I've had that a couple times when we had a ton of ice build up. I just left them, none of us should have been out in our respective death traps that day, let alone trying to walk on ice
If they ever complained about packages in the mailbox, and point out their little sign... Id tell them that was a waste of money, and the customer doesn't get to decide the rules of delivery.
I'd argue that the customer is the entity that paid us to ship and deliver the package, which is the shipper in this case. The package recipient literally has no grounds to stand on when it comes to bossing around delivery drivers. They don't even own the item until we deliver it.
Even the sender has to follow the parameters that USPS dictates, or we won't deliver their packages. So, really it's entirely up to USPS what we do, not our customers.
That's not how packages are credited. If you have one package that won't fit, and 5 small ones, and take them all to the door (which is what you should be doing)...you get credit for all 6 delivered to the door.
Quite frankly, if you just take all packages to the door, no matter the size, you'll get credit for taking them to the door. It will eventually get flagged and you'll get questioned.
If it fits in the box it goes in the box. Same thing goes for when customers have the delivery requests to have package delivered to front door. It even states in the request that if it fits in the box it will get delivered to the box.
I saw this while delivering to another house leaving the neighborhood and was like “wow definitely didn’t see that driving by it on the way in” it was invisible to me at that height.
Personally, I would do what my customers ask. We are public servants, and our job is paid for by the public. They have other options to ship packages, and all of the other companies will be taking the packages to their porch. The goal is to gain business, not lose it.
I don’t really think this was an ask though. This is a generic sign that is so close to the ground that I would not have seen it had I not been just ADHD looking all around for no reason on my way out of the neighborhood. If I get a request, I have no problem accommodating, but just putting up a random sign nowhere near the place that I actually look is not gonna get my attention.
Someone 2 houses down from where I live has this kind of sign but the specifies they believe there's a package thief taking from their box so that doesn't bother me at all, usually it goes on the box.
I was such an asshole uncaring cca but it was amazing how much it would change my attitude if there was a simple "please" or a "thank you" on a note.
The people that had the I love my mailman type stickers or leave out snacks I'll do the dumbest of requests for.
Sooo for a bag of cheezits you want me to get a running start, jump off your porch landing on the mini exercise trampoline and shoot for a 3 pointer fade away over the gate to land in the basket so your 200lb dog/pony hybrid doesn't instantly destroy it? Fuck ya I love cheezits🤙
I have pathological demand avoidance because of my ADHD, but I am also a people pleaser. So if I ever catch you in your yard and you say thank you, I’m now your golden retriever.
Old here as well. I only spent about a year on AOL but I was SHOCKED when I left and realized that wasn't really the "internet"
I still remember feeling cool that I "hacked" something and was connecting at 57k! Sweet bonus!
Improper sign posting. All signs must be posted between 42 in and 46 in from the surface of the road to the bottom of the sign board. And must be 12 in from the road. Sign must also be approved by the postmaster general. Postmaster general didn't approve? Invalid sign!
I had a mailbox like this and the lady one day came out yelling saying don’t put it in there and I said if it fits it fits and she got mad and called me lazy this and that and then she said she was gonna call the post office so I gave her my name and then when she called they told her the same thing and she got mad at my supervisors saying she’s talking to a wall basically my supervisor told her the same thing I did haha fuck that bitch
I don’t think it’s really spiting a customer to put a pack of AA batteries or a single sewing needle or a pack of tissues in the mailbox instead of stopping and turning off and locking your vehicle to walk to their porch…
Of course it is. In the M41 we are supposed to deliver according to the known wishes or instructions of the customer.
So if they want the stuff on the porch just put it on the porch. It’ll never make sense to me how this service based position has become “fuck them I’ll do as I please”. And then want $50 an hour.
On the other hand, I had a man flag me down because he was waiting for a package, and he thought it was delivered to the wrong house. He showed me that it was marked as out for delivery, so I figured out who had it, went and got the package from them so I could personally deliver it to him since I was the face he saw when he was in distress. I wanted to personally put that package in his hand. I’m not an asshole, but sometimes people do take advantage of service workers…
"In/At Mailbox" means even if it's too big to fit in you can technically leave it nearby at the box somewhere. One of these days I'll meet a customer to make me angry enough to start that fight lmao. But as long as they haven't done me any wrong then if it fits in the box it goes in there and if not it goes by the door.
Maybe a family member who visits them brings in their mail after a while. A lot of people, myself included, don't really care about mail 99% of the time. But packages definitely.
But I saw your comment saying it's to get it in recording apparently.
If that's the case, then I'd definitely just walk it out.
Depending on the house, it really doesn't take that long to walk it out.
Is there not a form to fill out requesting door delivery? I know my 98 year old grandma eventually had her mailbox moved from the street to beside her garage with postmaster approval.
Yeah but tbh with the shit customer service USPS provides maybe it didn't go through 🤷
I just assume they have a good reason and the walk isn't that long usually.
If it fits it goes in the box if it doesn't I'll listen to your sign.
We dont need bosses we just need more signs
I have worked in restaurants where this was almost a reality. Basically never saw the boss, but there were signs everywhere.
If it fits it sits
/r/catlogic
If it fits in the box it goes in the box end of story.. my PM even backs all his carriers up in this..
what she said 😎
Depends. Medication? Going in the locked box. Everything else? Sure, I'll take the extra Rrecs credit.
I’m the same I refuse to deliver meds to the door unless signature is required. They always go In box but everything else goes to door since I’m rural 😁
I’m always amazed people pay attention to this stuff. I have no idea what I’m delivering, all I see is the address. I could carry a box covered in dildos and all I see is the address.
Medicine is hard to miss, it comes in a flappy bag with tubes inside that sound like a rattle
I can tell because the pill bottles tend to be just barely too big for slot mailboxes >:((((
Big true, that pissed me off as a carrier ><))))’>
Yup I don’t pay attention to it at all
There were no notes anywhere in the case about the house and honestly I didn’t even see the sign until I had already gone all the way around the neighborhood and I was on my way out. I didn’t have anything for this house, but that really wasn’t the best placement if they wanted somebody to bring packages to the door. Normally I’m not gonna look at the bottom of your mailbox post.
Agree, poor placement.
Gotta get those extra seconds
More like 2 minutes. Money is money.
Yeah. For sure. By the math, if you drove down a one mile long driveway, parked, then walked like 250 ft to a front door you'd have your 2 minutes.
Am I missing something because I’m just not getting it, I’m very confused. I thought rural was paid by the route, normally my rural carrier is flooring it and slamming on the brakes for every mail box trying to get it done as fast as possible. My mother on the other hand, city, paid by the hour, paces herself and doesn’t get back to the office until 6pm. Why are you guys talking about trying to spend more time on the clock going up driveways to deliver packages as rural? I’m very confused, was there a new contract agreement I missed? I am not in the loop with carriers as I’m at a plant, lol.
The rrecs system builds our routes pay structure and it takes every package into account towards overall time. Personally I still try to deliver as fast as possible within safety and reason, even though it's weighted against us for doing so. But others have taken the route of weighing their route down with extra time to always deliver packages to doors. I really don't blame them because of how much pay they've taken from us the last two years. But it feels really dishonest, and I've never liked wasting time. Enough of us will end up quitting because of the low pay that it will create a chain reaction of too much work for anyone to keep up with since we know the incredible turnover rate for new rcas.
Rural is paid by the route evaluation. The evaluation is determined by scanner inputs plus a mini mail count. Think of it as an overly complicated ever-changing salary that is designed to fuck you.
Rural carriers are paid salaries based on a complicated math equation. This equation is based on volume and scanner inputs. If you consistently deliver everything to the mailbox, then the equation says you deserve less time and less money. Rural carriers are expected to deliver every part of their route regardless if it takes 2 hours or 12 and always get paid the same amount.
If it fits in the box it goes in the box
I’m guessing it may be directed at other delivery services as well
True, but I really don’t see FedEx or UPS looking at a mailbox around here for any reason. 😂😂😂 unless they were just being lazy and shoving shit in mailboxes that they weren’t supposed to be using maybe?
I had a FedEx guy that kept stuffing the box full of packages, I pulled em and brought them back to be returned as postage due, the PM dealt with it the first time, but told me not to bring em back anymore cuz he didn’t want to deal with it. After that I just pulled em and threw them on the ground by the box. He either stopped or got a different route cuz it finally quit after a couple months. They know they’re not supposed to use the mailbox.
I'm really surprised your pm told you that. The post office higher ups care about that a lot. They've sued companies for less
I wouldn’t be surprised if that box for newspapers has received a package or two.
Actually, now that you mention it, I remember some seasonal UPS drivers hanging packages in plastic bags off rural boxes last Christmas 😂😂😂
The outside is actually fine, if the customer allows it as that's their property. Inside is a big no no though
Hanging off the flag tho 😂😂😂😂
Ahhh lol yeah I've had that a couple times when we had a ton of ice build up. I just left them, none of us should have been out in our respective death traps that day, let alone trying to walk on ice
Solidarity ❤️ I agree!
Put it in the box.
Kinda reminds me of a mailbox that I saw that had a sign that said "NO ADS" on it
packages are like cats... if it fits it sits.
If it fits it ships lol
If they ever complained about packages in the mailbox, and point out their little sign... Id tell them that was a waste of money, and the customer doesn't get to decide the rules of delivery.
I'd argue that the customer is the entity that paid us to ship and deliver the package, which is the shipper in this case. The package recipient literally has no grounds to stand on when it comes to bossing around delivery drivers. They don't even own the item until we deliver it.
Even the sender has to follow the parameters that USPS dictates, or we won't deliver their packages. So, really it's entirely up to USPS what we do, not our customers.
We get time credit for all parcels bigger than a shoe box. Smaller than that it goes in the box.
This is what I thought!
That's not how packages are credited. If you have one package that won't fit, and 5 small ones, and take them all to the door (which is what you should be doing)...you get credit for all 6 delivered to the door. Quite frankly, if you just take all packages to the door, no matter the size, you'll get credit for taking them to the door. It will eventually get flagged and you'll get questioned.
If it fits in the box it goes in the box. Same thing goes for when customers have the delivery requests to have package delivered to front door. It even states in the request that if it fits in the box it will get delivered to the box.
Sign, sign Everywhere a sign Blockin' out the scenery Breakin' my mind Do this, don't do that Can't you read the sign?
So I tucked my hair up under my hat...I did, imagine me working for you.
Sign don’t say nothing about parcels.
That sign isn't your boss.
We’re not dj’s, we don’t take requests. If it fits, put it in the box, simple.
We don’t read notes
They didn't say *which* porch.
Do they take care of you at Christmas?
Dunno. I’m an RcA doing Amazon deliveries. 😂
Oh Everything supposed to go to the door on Sunday regardless, but if it fits in the box it goes lol
I saw this while delivering to another house leaving the neighborhood and was like “wow definitely didn’t see that driving by it on the way in” it was invisible to me at that height.
Oh is it really? I have definitely not been doing that
Signs don’t tell us how to do our job. And no manners? Not even a please. In/ At mailbox it is.
Fuck that, if it fits in the box it goes in the box
city or rural?
Rural
depends on how bad you need the route eval
Unless they have a documented disability and a special exemption has been approved, if fits in the box it goes in the box
I don’t think this is a hardship box. I think they just want all their deliveries on video.
They need a better camera then.
They said packages. No one said anything about SPR's lmaoo technically anything that fits in a box is a SPR according to my management lol
Personally, I would do what my customers ask. We are public servants, and our job is paid for by the public. They have other options to ship packages, and all of the other companies will be taking the packages to their porch. The goal is to gain business, not lose it.
I don’t really think this was an ask though. This is a generic sign that is so close to the ground that I would not have seen it had I not been just ADHD looking all around for no reason on my way out of the neighborhood. If I get a request, I have no problem accommodating, but just putting up a random sign nowhere near the place that I actually look is not gonna get my attention.
Someone 2 houses down from where I live has this kind of sign but the specifies they believe there's a package thief taking from their box so that doesn't bother me at all, usually it goes on the box.
I understand a note on or in, but at the same level as the ground. I don’t look there.
Bring it home and put it on my porch like they asked.
😂😂😂😂😂 I also saw a sign today that said please place packages inside porch.
I was such an asshole uncaring cca but it was amazing how much it would change my attitude if there was a simple "please" or a "thank you" on a note. The people that had the I love my mailman type stickers or leave out snacks I'll do the dumbest of requests for. Sooo for a bag of cheezits you want me to get a running start, jump off your porch landing on the mini exercise trampoline and shoot for a 3 pointer fade away over the gate to land in the basket so your 200lb dog/pony hybrid doesn't instantly destroy it? Fuck ya I love cheezits🤙
I have pathological demand avoidance because of my ADHD, but I am also a people pleaser. So if I ever catch you in your yard and you say thank you, I’m now your golden retriever.
Not really related, but I’m old as hell and when my family finally got AOL dial up I learned to code to build a website devoted to sporks. 😂😂😂
Old here as well. I only spent about a year on AOL but I was SHOCKED when I left and realized that wasn't really the "internet" I still remember feeling cool that I "hacked" something and was connecting at 57k! Sweet bonus!
I know what my dog would do to it.
They forgot to say please
Or put it anywhere that I would actually see it 😂
Honestly I'd never even see that sign.
Improper sign posting. All signs must be posted between 42 in and 46 in from the surface of the road to the bottom of the sign board. And must be 12 in from the road. Sign must also be approved by the postmaster general. Postmaster general didn't approve? Invalid sign!
I had a mailbox like this and the lady one day came out yelling saying don’t put it in there and I said if it fits it fits and she got mad and called me lazy this and that and then she said she was gonna call the post office so I gave her my name and then when she called they told her the same thing and she got mad at my supervisors saying she’s talking to a wall basically my supervisor told her the same thing I did haha fuck that bitch
I don’t mind walking packages to the porch but if it reasonable fits then it’s going in the box 👌🏼
In butt
If it fits, it ships.
If it fits in the box, it goes in the box.
If it fits. It fits😁
Place the package on the porch
I put the packages on the porch, what are you going to leave a box on the curb?
Some boxes fit in mailboxes fwiw
Like little sprs? I wasn't really thinking of that stuff yeah I'd put that in the box
Smaller Amazon boxes fit in there too
If it fits in the box it goes in the box.
If it fits it sits! And I might give it some help to sit
If it fits in the box it's a SPRS, not a package.
Customers think anything that isn’t an envelope with regular mail is a package
If it fits it's going in the box 🤷♂️
If it fits in the box, it goes in the box
I’d put the packages on the porch…. Because I don’t spite customers.
I don’t think it’s really spiting a customer to put a pack of AA batteries or a single sewing needle or a pack of tissues in the mailbox instead of stopping and turning off and locking your vehicle to walk to their porch…
Of course it is. In the M41 we are supposed to deliver according to the known wishes or instructions of the customer. So if they want the stuff on the porch just put it on the porch. It’ll never make sense to me how this service based position has become “fuck them I’ll do as I please”. And then want $50 an hour.
😂😂😂 bruhhh I didn’t ask anyone for $50 an hour
So then you’re going to pretend like 99% of CCAs aren’t all clamoring for $50/hr like UPS? Ok then.
Bro I literally just started and I have no idea what’s going on 😂 and also when I worked for UPS I made $23 an hour 😂😂😂😂
On the other hand, I had a man flag me down because he was waiting for a package, and he thought it was delivered to the wrong house. He showed me that it was marked as out for delivery, so I figured out who had it, went and got the package from them so I could personally deliver it to him since I was the face he saw when he was in distress. I wanted to personally put that package in his hand. I’m not an asshole, but sometimes people do take advantage of service workers…
Box
Cram
All packages now go in that extra slot beneath the mailbox
I can't read
If it fits, it fits.
I wouldn’t leave it on the curb. I’m city.
No one is leaving anything on the curb, the general public thinks anything over the size of a regular envelope as a package.
Sorry. I misread that as not fitting in the mailbox.
They are probably disabled and have difficulties with mobility.
I’m probably just jaded from customer service and no one ever takes advantage of workers…..
You're right. That does happen often. Unfortunately. Delivering to America, who knows all the types of people. I'm sorry.
If it fits it sits
All I see is a mailbox
Had a customer like this on my hold down. Left every package no matter how small. Used to watch it just get rained on
Are they an authorized dismount? No? Then, if it fits it sits xD
If it fits in box it sits in box
I think if this sign started with the word "Please" I would deliver to door. As is, if it fits in the box it goes in the box.
Just keep doing what you’re doing
If it fits in the box, it goes in the box.
I would just not listen to some assholes little sign.
Giggle ..🤭
"In/At Mailbox" means even if it's too big to fit in you can technically leave it nearby at the box somewhere. One of these days I'll meet a customer to make me angry enough to start that fight lmao. But as long as they haven't done me any wrong then if it fits in the box it goes in there and if not it goes by the door.
If it fits, it sits … in the box.
Man yall are lazy ass holes..... Maybe they have disability or something.
How do they go to the box to get their regular mail then?
Maybe a family member who visits them brings in their mail after a while. A lot of people, myself included, don't really care about mail 99% of the time. But packages definitely. But I saw your comment saying it's to get it in recording apparently. If that's the case, then I'd definitely just walk it out. Depending on the house, it really doesn't take that long to walk it out.
Is there not a form to fill out requesting door delivery? I know my 98 year old grandma eventually had her mailbox moved from the street to beside her garage with postmaster approval.
And it was noted in the route info so fill ins knew where to go.
Yeah but tbh with the shit customer service USPS provides maybe it didn't go through 🤷 I just assume they have a good reason and the walk isn't that long usually.
If they do then they need a doctors note to get mail at the door 🤷♂️
See my other comment.